Hi,
Not sure where to put this. This forum could use a 'general android questions' board, as there are so many android devices out there now -- and yet, so many questions that apply to all devices.
Anyhow...
I've been having a really hard time finding any place that:
1) lists all android phones, current and those in development
2) allows you to search on specific things, such as 'keyboard'
There are lots of databases for WM devices, where I can just go to 'advanced search', check 'keyboard' -- and instantly have a list of all phones with a hardware keyboard.
Have my Google searches just missed the boat?
(note: unless the board has an advanced search, such as above, it's utterly useless to me for this purpose... )
Thanks
Xda has a database with phones:
http://pdadb.net/
What is wrong with gsmarena? They have all phones and a very advanced search function. Just shose android OS and qwerty and viola, you have all 11 of them(even rummored motorola shadow)
http://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3
And it becomes apparent that droid is the only choice, no wonder it is a success.
g1
Moto Cliq
Moto Backflip (not out yet but coming really soon to at&t)
moto droid
Rumor Phones
HTC Scorpion (1.5 ghz processor, android 2.2, 3.7 AMOLED screen.
Androphones.com
and
List of Android phones on Wikipedia
Well there is also the recently announced SE X10 Mini Pro.
If you need the keyboard I'm pretty sure the Droid is the best one.
I've got several older Android phones that I've retired from use and are now collecting dust in my closet.
I'd like to use these units as something other than a cell phone (or a paper weight). I'd like to disable the cellular network component and use the phone either as a music player, or as a satellite enabled GPS receiver.
Are there any custom ROMs for this? While I can get these devices functioning as described above, however whenever they are rebooted I get the "new phone" messages looking for service providers, or complaining that the device is missing the SIMM card.
Thanks in advance for relevant information. Don't flame me TOO badly if I'm being tragically unhip and noobish w/this request.
Idk if its much help but I use my old Droid x for a camera and games. I got past the activation screen by pressing the 4 corners on the screen around the android guy. If I'm not explaining it well you can find it on Google by searching for something like using Android phone without activating.
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portsample said:
I've got several older Android phones that I've retired from use and are now collecting dust in my closet.
I'd like to use these units as something other than a cell phone (or a paper weight). I'd like to disable the cellular network component and use the phone either as a music player, or as a satellite enabled GPS receiver.
Are there any custom ROMs for this? ...
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I would think it's possible, but it will depend entirely on the device and its support within the community. Search the forum for your device(s) and determine if it can be "rooted" first. Most can, although what you can do beyond that will often depend on how popular the device was. The device forum will have advice on what to do to get the functionality you want.
Good luck!
Why not stick a large memory card inside and use it for torrents?
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Thanks for the responses.
Ideally I was planning on using the audio player in my car, something that would boot up into the standard phone desktop and skip the "Where's my SIMM card? Where's my carrier??" device panic.
Same for the GPS unit.
The devices are a G1 and an older Motorola Droid, the G1 is rooted but not the Droid yet. Thanks again.
Repurpose old android
A couple of ideas that I like are using the phone as a bit-torrent device, or maybe as a pirate box. But one idea I like a lot and would love to hear something from the developers is about a device on Kickstarter called Twine (I can't post links yet so you will have to look it up), how hard would it be to use old android devices in this same fashion?
I went through the same thought process for my old HTC Hero. Currently, I have CM7.2 installed on it (because it runs smoother and has plenty of options to potentially reduce unneeded battery use) and I keep it clean and in airplane mode. Even that alone allows me to get some pretty good battery life on it to go towards being used as a music player and as a backup device for geocaching.
That in mind, I'd say finding the most barebones ROM will do the trick for you. Or find the newest fully developed version of CM for each device and use that.
you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2644588
Follow the link I posted, you would be surprised how much you have to disable/freeze before it stops complaining.
Some processes you can not disable unless you are rooted.
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torikorocks said:
Idk if its much help but I use my old Droid x for a camera and games. I got past the activation screen by pressing the 4 corners on the screen around the android guy. If I'm not explaining it well you can find it on Google by searching for something like using Android phone without activating.
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This does not work on all phones....
Really liked your tutorial video! Thank you!
Do you have to resurrect this thread from 2012?
Well, we are all in this device family. Lets Stick TOGETHER!
https://www.change.org/petitions/hu...ces-and-similarities-between-u8800-pro-and-51
do it for the sake of development! It is for what we love!
It takes less than 30 seconds.
Post this on your site at AndroidMovida Cléxon Rodriguez.
asd
Signed!
Signed ! :good:
Signed
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Here's what I have put together myself:
U8800 aka IDEOS X5 - MSM7230 800MHz WCN1312
U8800-51 aka Impulse 4G - MSM7230 800MHz BCM4329 *
U8800Pro aka IDEOS X5 Pro - MSM8255 1GHz BCM4329
* U8800-51 does not have analog TV out feature, it's replaced with something called "hearing aid".
* U8800-51 is basically U8800 with a different Wi-Fi+BT+FM chip OR U8800-51 is basically U8800Pro with a different processor (although from the same family).
I don't think Huawei will respond but it's worth a try .
Blefish said:
Here's what I have put together myself:
U8800 aka IDEOS X5 - MSM7230 800MHz WCN1312
U8800-51 aka Impulse 4G - MSM7230 800MHz BCM4329 *
U8800Pro aka IDEOS X5 Pro - MSM8255 1GHz BCM4329
* U8800-51 does not have analog TV out feature, it's replaced with something called "hearing aid".
* U8800-51 is basically U8800 with a different Wi-Fi+BT+FM chip OR U8800-51 is basically U8800Pro with a different processor (although from the same family).
I don't think Huawei will respond but it's worth a try .
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I don't understand how it is possible to flash another ROM with a different processor. However, it seems that the -51 came out after the pro. Maybe they have updated hardware inside? I just can't flash a regular rom on top. I get a boot loop.
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How it looks?
Mlopik said:
How it looks?
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No one cares I guess.
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Somcom3X said:
No one cares I guess.
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now u8800-51 = u8800- pro
in fact, things are not that bad. method developed by you for shendu I can put any android for u8800 pro.
and now use a Chinese anroid - BaiduCloud 2.3
Here's a link to a Russian site with androiul that ... if you're interested and can do. I can even put it in dropbox
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showt...#entry20276962
sllavy said:
now u8800-51 = u8800- pro
in fact, things are not that bad. method developed by you for shendu I can put any android for u8800 pro.
and now use a Chinese anroid - BaiduCloud 2.3
Here's a link to a Russian site with androiul that ... if you're interested and can do. I can even put it in dropbox
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showt...#entry20276962
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Wifi have hiccups?
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Somcom3X said:
Wifi have hiccups?
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not all the time, maybe 2 times goes out and connects .. but after it is stable
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YEAH!!! WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!! :laugh::victory::highfive:
People understand, no one will be releasing a new firmware! The company policy is that their primary purpose is the sale of a large number of phones in a short period of time. Buyers phones of this company, forget about the support! Those who need support in the long term, select Samsung or Nexus. The 8800 problem is that it uses a chip WiFi and BT 2 in 2, and 8800pro is 2 to 1. This chip and platform 8255 Mass and therefore easy for them to do roms and firmware, as well as port their. Iron u8800 is not very suitable for this, so it should be required of the larger development costs on a given WiFi and BT module. I wish that the company Huawei does not support or upgrade old machines, so the 8800 is still relevant phone that I still crawling, though I already have SGS3. For myself, I also noticed that the more I will not buy phones from this company! The lack of support and a normal service, put a large cross on a desire to purchase units of the firm. You will also advise you to think about it! I hope for the forum is not yet extinct normal programmers, and they will be able to port the JB in our unit, with a fully functional working. I would like to appeal to you and to the entire community programmsty XDA - why all the rivet bunch of custom firmware for devices such as SGS3 and other modern devices, if they are in stock so good!?? Yet this community was formed for a very different, just the same to support older devices! Let us then you will cease to do useless firmware for top devices and prefer the old devaysa eg 8800 and the rest! I hope it will be so!
JokerDog said:
People understand, no one will be releasing a new firmware! The company policy is that their primary purpose is the sale of a large number of phones in a short period of time. Buyers phones of this company, forget about the support! Those who need support in the long term, select Samsung or Nexus. The 8800 problem is that it uses a chip WiFi and BT 2 in 2, and 8800pro is 2 to 1. This chip and platform 8255 Mass and therefore easy for them to do roms and firmware, as well as port their. Iron u8800 is not very suitable for this, so it should be required of the larger development costs on a given WiFi and BT module. I wish that the company Huawei does not support or upgrade old machines, so the 8800 is still relevant phone that I still crawling, though I already have SGS3. For myself, I also noticed that the more I will not buy phones from this company! The lack of support and a normal service, put a large cross on a desire to purchase units of the firm. You will also advise you to think about it! I hope for the forum is not yet extinct normal programmers, and they will be able to port the JB in our unit, with a fully functional working. I would like to appeal to you and to the entire community programmsty XDA - why all the rivet bunch of custom firmware for devices such as SGS3 and other modern devices, if they are in stock so good!?? Yet this community was formed for a very different, just the same to support older devices! Let us then you will cease to do useless firmware for top devices and prefer the old devaysa eg 8800 and the rest! I hope it will be so!
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This has nothing to do with the u8800-51
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Somcom3X said:
This has nothing to do with the u8800-51
Sent from my u8800-51 on stallion.
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No, but he does like to ramble on, even if some of his statements are inaccurate.
If you send me kfhd Roms I will test.there's only one,I know of that horrible cm10 Rom
I was wrong about the cm10 ROM ts beast.just gotta wait for cm10.1
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KindleFireGuy said:
If you send me kfhd I will test.there's only one,I know of that horrible cm10 Rom
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KindleFireGuy,
Thank you for the offer, we may take you up on this when we launch Ubuntu for the Kindle Fire HD and 2.
WOW thanks I will gladly test thanks
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Custom ROM for The Kindle Fire HD 7" and 2 - Ubuntu Linux
KindleFireGuy said:
WOW thanks I will gladly test thanks
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KindleFireGuy,
We are a few weeks or two away, plenty of bugs to iron out before we are even Beta Ready.
I assume you mean a release for the kfhd 8.9?
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prokennexusa said:
KindleFireGuy,
We are a few weeks or two away, plenty of bugs to iron out before we are even Beta Ready. I am very shocked that developers released the CM10 ROM, I feel it is way too Green to have anyone waste there time on the installation. We would never release anything to the public that can not even display the boot screen well, it gives CM10 a bad name - just my opinion.
We will let you know when we are ready - we are not trying to be the first, we are trying to have the best ROM available. If it is not as stable or MORE stable than the Kindle original ROM we will not release it to the public.
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I'm a bit surprised by your opinion honestly. The cm10 for the KFTT only has two bugs. One is pretty minor (the boot screen. Yes, I would prefer it to be correct but... more to follow). The second bug is lack of HD.. that one I see as a major bug. But for me my choices are- 1. Run the Amazon Rom and HOPE the notifications work in a timely manner BUT I can run Netflix. Or 2- run a Rom that allows me to get notifications on time (for me MUCH more important. I'm very surprised that the stock Amazon OS handles notifications so poorly since even my Windows 8 box does that right lol
Now, the cm10 roms for the other devices are barely functional so I would understand, but what Hashcode has accomplished here is pretty darn good. ESPECIALLY having TWRP..
I DO really look forward to trying the ubuntu Rom though..
Edit: as for the initial post here.. dude is asking about kfhd roms but is posting from his kf2? I THINK the cm10 build he is talking about is for the kfhd 7" NOT the kf2 rom
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Messed up on it.don't send me a hd I already have one I messed up on typing
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The Kindle Fire 2
I have a kindle fire 2 and am surprised that people cannot hack the bootloader on it yet. I say this because I have had all the Apple Ipad and Iphone and everyone has been able to hack them with no problem, although it took them awhile!
So I hope that someone is able to get the bootloader unlocked for the Kindle Fire 2, HD to enable the installation of custom roms. Personally I just want to take an image of the KF2 and put it on my KF1 (both uk versions!).
Canonical Ubuntu Linux for Android
mindmajick said:
I'm a bit surprised by your opinion honestly. The cm10 for the KFTT only has two bugs. One is pretty minor (the boot screen. Yes, I would prefer it to be correct but... more to follow). The second bug is lack of HD.. that one I see as a major bug. But for me my choices are- 1. Run the Amazon Rom and HOPE the notifications work in a timely manner BUT I can run Netflix. Or 2- run a Rom that allows me to get notifications on time (for me MUCH more important. I'm very surprised that the stock Amazon OS handles notifications so poorly since even my Windows 8 box does that right lol
Now, the cm10 roms for the other devices are barely functional so I would understand, but what Hashcode has accomplished here is pretty darn good. ESPECIALLY having TWRP..
I DO really look forward to trying the ubuntu Rom though..
Edit: as for the initial post here.. dude is asking about kfhd roms but is posting from his kf2? I THINK the cm10 build he is talking about is for the kfhd 7" NOT the kf2 rom
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mindmajick,
I think we are on two totally different pages. I am very well aware of Hashcodes work on the Kindle Fire 2 which is down right impressive. I have tested there work on the Kindle Fire 2 for the last week (almost 10 days now) and all we found was two minor issues and one major issue.
What I am talking about and I will be clear this time (sorry I was not clear in the post) is the Kindle Fire HD 7", the one that was released about 7 months ago and has software revisions of 7.2.x - we did test 1 version as well as compiling our own AOSP, CM10 and AOKP. The latter was a complete failure but it was not due to the Kernel's fault, it was due to the know issues around compiling Kernels around the Kindle Fire HD 7" plus there are limited resources available on the Kindle HD 7" and Custom ROM's.
Anyways, the Kindle Fire HD 7" and 8.9" are exciting platforms to builds around, we have been on the phone and emailing TI almost daily (working to get the proper drivers built into the Kernel's). Thank God we have the support of Ubuntu, otherwise this path would be even more difficult.
The idea around Ubuntu is very different than CM10 and the rest. The idea with Ubuntu is to completely replace the desktop computer, so by day, your phone go with you and at night you dock the phone. The phone via the dock, is connected to an external Printer, Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse. The Ubuntu Phone becomes your home PC. No need for separate ISP, no need for another PC, no need to sync you work. The big question, what about the Google Play Store Apps, no problem. Ubuntu supports Android Apps natively as well as supports the entire array of Ubuntu apps already available (most are free). Release timeline? Hard to say, if it was our choise we would release a copy for the Kindle today but we are under tight constrains with Canonical. They tell us when it is OK to release the software.
More to come........................
prokennexusa said:
mindmajick,
I think we are on two totally different pages. I am very well aware of Hashcodes work on the Kindle Fire 2 which is down right impressive. I have tested there work on the Kindle Fire 2 for the last week (almost 10 days now) and all we found was two minor issues and one major issue.
What I am talking about and I will be clear this time (sorry I was not clear in the post) is the Kindle Fire HD 7", the one that was released about 7 months ago and has software revisions of 7.2.x - we did test 1 version as well as compiling our own AOSP, CM10 and AOKP. The latter was a complete failure but it was not due to the Kernel's fault, it was due to the know issues around compiling Kernels around the Kindle Fire HD 7" plus there are limited resources available on the Kindle HD 7" and Custom ROM's.
Anyways, the Kindle Fire HD 7" and 8.9" are exciting platforms to builds around, we have been on the phone and emailing TI almost daily (working to get the proper drivers built into the Kernel's). Thank God we have the support of Ubuntu, otherwise this path would be even more difficult.
The idea around Ubuntu is very different than CM10 and the rest. The idea with Ubuntu is to completely replace the desktop computer, so by day, your phone go with you and at night you dock the phone. The phone via the dock, is connected to an external Printer, Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse. The Ubuntu Phone becomes your home PC. No need for separate ISP, no need for another PC, no need to sync you work. The big question, what about the Google Play Store Apps, no problem. Ubuntu supports Android Apps natively as well as supports the entire array of Ubuntu apps already available (most are free). Release timeline? Hard to say, if it was our choise we would release a copy for the Kindle today but we are under tight constrains with Canonical. They tell us when it is OK to release the software.
More to come........................
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Yup. I guess I misunderstood.
I hope to see Ubuntu on the kf2 as well
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mindmajick said:
Yup. I guess I misunderstood.
I hope to see Ubuntu on the kf2 as well
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mindmajick,
No worries mindmajick, this happens, I catch myself doing it from time to time. Yes, we will have Ubuntu for all Kindles. Again, timeline is a bit unknown even though we could post a viable ROM for the Kindle Fire 2. we will post updates as progress is made on this topic. Have a great week!
prokennexusa said:
mindmajick,
No worries mindmajick, this happens, I catch myself doing it from time to time. Yes, we will have Ubuntu for all Kindles. Again, timeline is a bit unknown even though we could post a viable ROM for the Kindle Fire 2. we will post updates as progress is made on this topic. Have a great week!
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why dont post an alpha ubuntu version?
persano said:
why dont post an alpha ubuntu version?
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persano,
The Ubuntu ROM for Android is Stable on our Kindle, we could launch a production copy today, the problem is the contract that we sign with Ubuntu Canonical. This contract does not allow us to release any copies of Ubuntu for Android until Canonical is ready to launch Ubuntu for Android.
So we are just staying busy writing new Apps for Ubuntu rather than focus our efforts on rushing the Production version. Do not get me wrong, we spend plenty of time each week on the ROM, streamlining it and making it faster.
It would not be a good idea to release the ROM today anyway since this ROM is intended to replace the desktop computer. Having said this, we are missing a Key part - a dock for the Kindle to add an external Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, and Printer. When the manufactures begin to release docks, we will release the ROM. Do not worry, if Amazon does not release a dock, we will still release the ROM, it may be a few months or two away, that is all.
prokennexusa said:
persano,
The Ubuntu ROM for Android is Stable on our Kindle, we could launch a production copy today, the problem is the contract that we sign with Ubuntu Canonical. This contract does not allow us to release any copies of Ubuntu for Android until Canonical is ready to launch Ubuntu for Android.
So we are just staying busy writing new Apps for Ubuntu rather than focus our efforts on rushing the Production version. Do not get me wrong, we spend plenty of time each week on the ROM, streamlining it and making it faster.
It would not be a good idea to release the ROM today anyway since this ROM is intended to replace the desktop computer. Having said this, we are missing a Key part - a dock for the Kindle to add an external Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, and Printer. When the manufactures begin to release docks, we will release the ROM. Do not worry, if Amazon does not release a dock, we will still release the ROM, it may be a few months or two away, that is all.
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i understand
Ubuntu for Android on Kindle Fire HD
persano said:
i understand
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persano,
Once they allow us to release copies to employees I will get you a copy to test.
prokennexusa said:
persano,
Once they allow us to release copies to employees I will get you a copy to test.
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Really look forward to seeing this, Keep me in mind if you decide to leak a few copies for testing I would be more then happy to help out. Always loved Ubuntu on the desktop/
prokennexusa said:
KindleFireGuy,
We are a few weeks or two away, plenty of bugs to iron out before we are even Beta Ready. I am very shocked that developers released the CM10 ROM, I feel it is way too Green to have anyone waste there time on the installation. We would never release anything to the public that can not even display the boot screen well, it gives CM10 a bad name - just my opinion.
We will let you know when we are ready - we are not trying to be the first, we are trying to have the best ROM available. If it is not as stable or MORE stable than the Kindle original ROM we will not release it to the public.
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This is kind of a poor attempt at a troll don't you think?
1. No where in ReverendKJr's thread does he claim to be an expert coder who is releasing a fully usable ROM. Everything is very clear in the OP that he is showcasing some of the work VeryGreen did on the KFHD8.9 and trying "learn as he goes" and port some of that over to the KFHD7.
You: A dev who hasn't posted anything in the "dev" section yet, trying to belittle someone who has; is like a 5 year old scribbling over their neighbor's painting so that everyone will look at theirs instead.
2. Not many users are looking for an Ubuntu Desktop ROM on their KFHD. I can safely speak for the majority of this community: they're waiting for AOSP Android in some fully functional form. Tho, if you are hinting that you have a working copy of unreleased Ubuntu Phone, I'm sure there will be some interest in that as well.
3. You mention being on the phone with TI daily. But let me ask you ... why? There are publicly available resources to gather almost any information you need on TI products. And about the ONLY thing that's really made by Texas Instruments in the Kindle Fire HD's is the CPU and the battery gauge. Everything else about the device is some other manufacturer. And to prove it here's a QUICK breakdown of the KFHD8.9 of which the 7" is very similar:
*CPU: TI OMAP4470 @ 1.5Ghz
InvenSense MPU6050 w/ Gyroscope, Accelerometer and Compass (Aichi Steel ami306)
Light Sensor: Maxim MAX44007
*Battery Gauge: TI BQ27541
Charger: Summit SMB347
Wifi: Broadcom 4330 wlan
Audio: Wolfson Micro’s WM8962E
Touchscreen: Cypress TrueTouch
LCD: NT71391 Hydis 1920x1200 WUGA DSI
Here are random sources off the top of my head which would serve you better than a phone call to a now very understaffed mobile/smart phone department:
http://www.omapzoom.com
http://dev.omapzoom.com
http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://gforge.ti.com/gf/
4. I'm curious how you plan on solving the M3/ducati issues presented by running in Ubuntu. This would be the 2x sub processors normally designed to run HD codecs and camera. In Android, they are coded with a real time OS which communicates with the OMX integration layer (see: hardware/ti/omap4xxx/domx in Android source for more info). In Ubuntu, they don't use OMX, instead opting for g-streamer and other solutions. The ducati presented by Amazon uses OMX. Not G-Streamer. So unless you're planning on software decoders (less than desirable), this is going to be an issue.
So I'm going to call your bluff: Show me yours and I'll show you mine. Feel free to PM me.
Mine:
I have CM10.1 booting on the KFHD8.9. I'm re-writing the userspace audio driver from scratch (not done) and the HD codecs/camera functions need tweaks. Working Display, Wifi, BT, Sensors, etc. It's running a 3.0.50 kernel based on TI's latest OMAP4 kernel release. It's fully enhanced with blitsville drivers and brand new PowerVR graphics drivers released only a few days ago.
Sources:
https://github.com/KFire-Android/android_local_manifest
Specically, kernel: https://github.com/KFire-Android/kernel_omap_bowser-common
(You may note that I've left a place holder device for the KFHD7 which is pre-set up with as much information as I have currently.)
I have publicly admitted that I'm overbooked with devices and wasn't planning on supporting the KFHD7.. BUT that doesn't stop another dev from looking at my work on the KFHD8.9 and porting it to the KFHD7.
In closing:
1. Don't insult devs who are looking to help out in a community that is lacking. Everyone needs to start somewhere and who knows what may come of it.
2. Development isn't "dead" on the KFHD7. It's just in a deep state of slumber.
Hashcode said:
This is kind of a poor attempt at a troll don't you think?
1. No where in ReverendKJr's thread does he claim to be an expert coder who is releasing a fully usable ROM. Everything is very clear in the OP that he is showcasing some of the work VeryGreen did on the KFHD8.9 and trying "learn as he goes" and port some of that over to the KFHD7.
You: A dev who hasn't posted anything in the "dev" section yet, trying to belittle someone who has; is like a 5 year old scribbling over their neighbor's painting so that everyone will look at theirs instead.
2. Not many users are looking for an Ubuntu Desktop ROM on their KFHD. I can safely speak for the majority of this community: they're waiting for AOSP Android in some fully functional form. Tho, if you are hinting that you have a working copy of unreleased Ubuntu Phone, I'm sure there will be some interest in that as well.
3. You mention being on the phone with TI daily. But let me ask you ... why? There are publicly available resources to gather almost any information you need on TI products. And about the ONLY thing that's really made by Texas Instruments in the Kindle Fire HD's is the CPU and the battery gauge. Everything else about the device is some other manufacturer. And to prove it here's a QUICK breakdown of the KFHD8.9 of which the 7" is very similar:
*CPU: TI OMAP4470 @ 1.5Ghz
InvenSense MPU6050 w/ Gyroscope, Accelerometer and Compass (Aichi Steel ami306)
Light Sensor: Maxim MAX44007
*Battery Gauge: TI BQ27541
Charger: Summit SMB347
Wifi: Broadcom 4330 wlan
Audio: Wolfson Micro’s WM8962E
Touchscreen: Cypress TrueTouch
LCD: NT71391 Hydis 1920x1200 WUGA DSI
Here are random sources off the top of my head which would serve you better than a phone call to a now very understaffed mobile/smart phone department:
http://www.omapzoom.com
http://dev.omapzoom.com
http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://gforge.ti.com/gf/
4. I'm curious how you plan on solving the M3/ducati issues presented by running in Ubuntu. This would be the 2x sub processors normally designed to run HD codecs and camera. In Android, they are coded with a real time OS which communicates with the OMX integration layer (see: hardware/ti/omap4xxx/domx in Android source for more info). In Ubuntu, they don't use OMX, instead opting for g-streamer and other solutions. The ducati presented by Amazon uses OMX. Not G-Streamer. So unless you're planning on software decoders (less than desirable), this is going to be an issue.
So I'm going to call your bluff: Show me yours and I'll show you mine. Feel free to PM me.
Mine:
I have CM10.1 booting on the KFHD8.9. I'm re-writing the userspace audio driver from scratch (not done) and the HD codecs/camera functions need tweaks. Working Display, Wifi, BT, Sensors, etc. It's running a 3.0.50 kernel based on TI's latest OMAP4 kernel release. It's fully enhanced with blitsville drivers and brand new PowerVR graphics drivers released only a few days ago.
Sources:
https://github.com/KFire-Android/android_local_manifest
Specically, kernel: https://github.com/KFire-Android/kernel_omap_bowser-common
(You may note that I've left a place holder device for the KFHD7 which is pre-set up with as much information as I have currently.)
I have publicly admitted that I'm overbooked with devices and wasn't planning on supporting the KFHD7.. BUT that doesn't stop another dev from looking at my work on the KFHD8.9 and porting it to the KFHD7.
In closing:
1. Don't insult devs who are looking to help out in a community that is lacking. Everyone needs to start somewhere and who knows what may come of it.
2. Development isn't "dead" on the KFHD7. It's just in a deep state of slumber.
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please, tell us what you did so we can do it in the kindle fire 7"
and yeah, i want android, not ubuntu, ubuntu is beautiful, but i tweak for android, i love android!
give me a clean 8.9 build.prop from amazon, so i can add this device to my tweaks
Hashcode,
We have been in business since 1982 and have nothing to prove to anyone, certainly not you - our business speaks for itself. I respect you work and although I do not agree with all your decisions I still respect you as a developer and believe you are quite a genius - we have spoken in such a fashion in quite a few posts.
This is the beauty of this community, we can all have different ideas, different platforms and different OS's - all meet together as developers to share and be part of an overall goal to improve the end users experience. We never said ours was the best. We can have an open dialogue and not always agree but in the end we can respect on another.
This is a ridiculous response and I will not respond or waste any more time on it other than this one response.
We may not even be allowed to post the ROM in the end since Canonical Ubuntu has not made a final decision on it's marketing strategy. In the end, we may only be allowed to post apps for Canonical, everything is in the air at the moment. This just fine with us since we resell there other products and the Kindle Development is about 1% of our total monthly business.
We specialize in Anti-Spam, have you heard of Postini? We developed an anti-spam engine back in 2002 that was eventually bought by Postini, which was eventually sold to Google. Anyway, this too is a small part of my total company revenue. So I have done my share of development work - this is just a hobby to us, not a primary means of income. As a matter of fact, we decline to charge most customers that send there Kindle back to us for data recovery. This is one of the many gifts we offer to people in the XDA Community.
Rather than get upset, why don't YOU apply to be a developer for Canonical and bring on competition within the Ubuntu world? We would love to have you aboard, if you meet the minimum business requirements.
Just like yourself, we are here to share our abilities with the XDA Community. One thing we refuse to do is dialogue with someone who has posted an aggressive response like you have done. We have done nothing but spoken highly of your work, we have mentioned your name in several posts so we really do not deserve this kind of garbage.
This would have been far better received in a Private message or call to our number which is posted in every response. I am sure we pressed buttons with you or have somehow become a threat which I really do not understand? There is plenty of room for everyone here in XDA and I love competition - this is how I came up with my name, I am sponsored by Prokennex - Michael Martinez is a good friend of mine.
Let's just see what happens over the next few months, I believe of letting action speak, not words. This site is NOT our primary means of income, we own a large data center and manage over 650 customers - we are an IT Company that manages companies like: Kaiser Permanente in Oakland, Chevron Corp in Dublin CA, Wells Fargo Bank in Oakland, Alcan Plastic Packaging in Newark, VTA Transit in Santa Clara and many more.
Between my company and Racquet Ball, I have absolutely no free time!
We are honored to be a part of the XDA Community allowing us to share our expertise and experience, this is our goal here in XDA Developers, not to impress you or anyone else.
Finally, we joined Ubuntu quite a few years ago reselling there desktop and server platform as a Windows replacement. When they discussed releasing the Ubuntu for Phones and Ubuntu for Android, the idea fit our vertical market perfectly so we joined this solution at the 2013 CES show. The idea is to replace the desktop workstation, which will happen since phones & tablets have plenty of power to perform such a task - I am just surprised it took this long to come to reality.
God Bless.