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Ok, I know I'm jumping the gun, but I thought this would be a good idea. We'll need somewhere to list and discuss apps for the Evo. I know discussions will go far beyond this thread, but a place to compile a list and links to download or for instructions or to troubleshoot and so on and so forth will be handy.
I'm not sure what I'm doing, but it appears the size of posts is limited and from what I've seen the thing to do is to reserve some space at the beginning of the thread to make helpful information throughout the thread easily accessible at the beginning so I'm going to reserve some space if I can.
Advice is welcome. Please offer advice. If I choke (and embarass myself) and end up not getting an Evo (not likely as I think I want it more than sex) or fail to keep the thread updated I'm gessing we have other options like an administrator letting someone else edit my posts or moving info to a better thread or something.
I'm thinking this could get to be a huge thread so I think I'll reserve 3 more posts. If that's too many I guess they can be deleted. If we need more can an administrator insert them? If you have ideas on how we should structure this please speak up.
Since I'm jumping the gun I guess the place to start is with what we think it will come loaded with and what we want it to come with. Eventually we'll just list what's available for the Evo.
I've never done this and may prove to be unreliable and considered just making this a suggestion so if anyone is experienced and gung-ho about it and wants to take over right now feel free to step up.
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Uh oh, I gotta work.
HANDY LINKS TO APPS
http://www.androlib.com/
www.android.com
www.androidanarchy.com
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSeLuJBWDU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478117
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473195
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UPDATE 04/06/10 1145PM EST: LOL
bad idea?
Should I request deleting? I've never used Android so I seriously am looking for help finding, installing, and getting through issues. I know there are other clueless people like me also so why not make a one stop shop for the apps this phone can use.
One thing I think I may have just realized is where to get apps. I'm a winmo user and I think I've only bought one app and never understood why anyone needed Marketplace. I've downloaded apps from all over the internet and never even been to Marketplace. Are all (or most, or what) Android apps at android.com? I read there were like 30,000 android apps, but haven't seen them. I figured a market was an iphone thing.
Some of the best threads I've read were very well organized and were updated to make info easy to find. Some threads look promising, but get really long and you never know when you'll find what you're actually looking for. Maybe I just don't search well, but often what I think is a good search produces unsatifying results. This site is huge now and very difficult to search.
I really would love input from senior members and would like to know as much as possible before I get this phone. I have actually been worried about switching over to Android, but the new hardware and network seem too good(not to mention the new windows direction). I've heard good stuff about Android, but just don't understand it.
I'm worried about being stuck with just 5 or 7 screens. I know windows has to use apps to get it's multiple screens (UL, ilaunch, claunch...), but I haven't heard of anythig like that with Android. I've settled into touchflo and really like using the slider rather than flicking like I did with UL (especially multiple times to get where I want).
I'm under the impression the Android screens are customizable in that you can use shortcuts or widgets, but I'd like to have several full screen widgets (more than 6) and a launcher and a home screen with more info (even more than touchflo/sense on winmo). Is there anything like that?
Please tell me (and other untechies) about Android. Don't be a johnson. Sorry, couldn't pass that up.
hey I'm an asshole... and proud of it... I'm not known for my kindness
POW! -> http://www.androlib.com/
you say you want 5-7 homescreens now.... wait till you use it... you might use 3-4.... MAYBE... I only use 2, but hey that's me. Also if you are that freaking skitso there's a homescreen replacement out there with up to 10 or 13 or something absolutely retarded amount of homescreens if you MUST have that many.
You can customize like there's no tomorrow, makes winmo look like a gimped iphone in that respect. You can change basically every aspect of everything if you look hard enough.
Touchflow is senceUI... senceUI is touchflow... same exact thing. If you don't like your senceUI (what will come with the evo), you can do the vanillia android home if you want, or enjoy one of the many many homescreen replacements, of which there is about a thousand different themes for icons menus screens title bars etc etc etc etc etc.
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSeLuJBWDU
the apps don't run on the 5-7 screens, they're separate and "unlimited" based off of available ram, if you use up resources it closes the one android feels you aren't useing anymore to free up ram for your running app. It isn't as bad as it sounds in practical use, you won't notice it closing stuff in the background, the screens are only for widgets like in the video.
Like I said, customize your heart out. You don't have to be a rocket surgeon either, download a app, maybe a buck or two and go to town. There's free options, but it's not paying some big fruit company it's going into the developer's pockets so give them a buck if you like it. I have never paid over a dollar for any app I buy... and I have like 20 I felt the need to pay for. Small change in comparison to what I pay each month to use the phone... or what I paid for the phone in the first place.
Compare to a desktop or laptop and the amount of usage for a paid app... much better ratio of fun for price.
no need for this topic in my opinion, I'd recommend it be deleted, but it's your call if you feel like updating it with what you find useful in the link I provided.
I want a dollar for my time... thanks.
Manicmobileaddict said:
Should I request deleting? I've never used Android so I seriously am looking for help finding, installing, and getting through issues. I know there are other clueless people like me also so why not make a one stop shop for the apps this phone can use.
One thing I think I may have just realized is where to get apps. I'm a winmo user and I think I've only bought one app and never understood why anyone needed Marketplace. I've downloaded apps from all over the internet and never even been to Marketplace. Are all (or most, or what) Android apps at android.com? I read there were like 30,000 android apps, but haven't seen them. I figured a market was an iphone thing.
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Most legit apps can be found in the Marketplace, both free and for $$. Off and on, you may see someone post up an app here that they're working on, but the eventual goal is to get it in the Marketplace for the most part. It seems that you went looking for Moby ****, and only found a white whale!
johnsongrantr said:
hey I'm an asshole... and proud of it... I'm not known for my kindness
i never said that and you gotta admit the pun was too good to pass on[/I]
POW! -> http://www.androlib.com/
thanks
you say you want 5-7 homescreens now.... wait till you use it... you might use 3-4.... MAYBE... I only use 2, but hey that's me.
full screen widgets not homescreens, I use 8 now
Also if you are that freaking skitso
me?
there's a homescreen replacement out there with up to 10 or 13 or something absolutely retarded amount of homescreens if you MUST have that many.
You can customize like there's no tomorrow, makes winmo look like a gimped iphone in that respect. You can change basically every aspect of everything if you look hard enough.
cool
Touchflow is senceUI... senceUI is touchflow... same exact thing.
SenSe, different on winmo and android
If you don't like your senceUI (what will come with the evo), you can do the vanillia android home if you want, or enjoy one of the many many homescreen replacements, of which there is about a thousand different themes for icons menus screens title bars etc etc etc etc etc.
cool
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSeLuJBWDU
some pretty cool features there, but not too fond of the leap (2 handed op)
the apps don't run on the 5-7 screens, they're separate and "unlimited" based off of available ram, if you use up resources it closes the one android feels you aren't useing anymore to free up ram for your running app. It isn't as bad as it sounds in practical use, you won't notice it closing stuff in the background, the screens are only for widgets like in the video.
so it multi-tasks? cool. any limit to the # of shortcuts per screen?
Like I said, customize your heart out. You don't have to be a rocket surgeon either, download a app, maybe a buck or two and go to town. There's free options there if you're a jew,
I am
but it's not paying some big fruit company it's going into the developer's pockets so give them a buck if you like it. I have never paid over a dollar for any app I buy... and I have like 20 I felt the need to pay for. Small change in comparison to what I pay each month to use the phone... or what I paid for the phone in the first place.
Compare to a desktop or laptop and the amount of usage for a paid app... much better ratio of fun for price.
no need for this topic in my opinion, I'd recommend it be deleted, but it's your call if you feel like updating it with what you find useful in the link I provided.
its been useful to me so far, but we can delete it
I want a dollar for my time... thanks.
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how do I do that, the tip?
Jye75 said:
Most legit apps can be found in the Marketplace, both free and for $$. Off and on, you may see someone post up an app here that they're working on, but the eventual goal is to get it in the Marketplace for the most part. It seems that you went looking for Moby ****, and only found a white whale!
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Same link the johnson gave? Any others?
Manicmobileaddict said:
Same link the johnson gave? Any others?
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www.android.com
www.androidanarchy.com
What's in your Evo you ask?
A 1GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ processor, the award-winning HTC SenseTM user experience, an 8.0 megapixel auto-focus camera with HD-capable video camcorder and a forward-facing 1.3 megapixel camera. The large vibrant 4.3 inch display, built-in kickstand, 3.5 mm headset jack and HDMI output make HTC EVO 4G an unparalleled platform for wireless entertainment. Download music, pictures, files, or videos in seconds – not minutes – and watch streaming video on the go on a network with download speeds that are up to 10 times faster than 3G speeds.1 With built-in mobile hotspot functionality, HTC EVO 4G also allows up to eight Wi-Fi-enabled devices, including laptop, camera, music player, video player and any other Wi-Fi-enabled device, to enjoy the benefits of 4G speeds on the go.
...That beats the gerbil on his wheel in my TP.
keatre said:
...That beats the gerbil on his wheel in my TP.
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picture or it didn't happen
keatre said:
...That beats the gerbil on his wheel in my TP.
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Reasons why I bought a Sprint Hero on Craigslist for $200 bucks lol
johnsongrantr said:
picture or it didn't happen
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Mad photoshop skillz.
keatre said:
Mad photoshop skillz.
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Sir, for that, I bestow apon you +5,000 internets
universal remote/dongle
Anyone know of anything like Totalremote from Griffin that can use the sound to ir converter for phones without an ir port?
I bought Totalremote with the converter off ebay to experiment with on my Mogul, but can't get it to work (it works on my ipaq). The Mogul just has no universal remote solution (unless I can get the ipod method from Engadget working, for which I'll have to get a male 3.5mm to male 3.5mm cord one of these days).
Since I have the converter I'm hoping there will end up being an Android version of Totalremote. I'm very hopefull since iphone is doing one using the headphone jack and since for some reason HTC has moved their jack to the top of the phone (makes you wonder).
40,000 apps to browse?
Ok, so I'm thinking 40,000 Android apps to browse through might be a little overwhelming.
Anyone care to discuss/recommend their favorite or essential Android apps and perhaps throw up links directly to them?
Manicmobileaddict said:
Ok, so I'm thinking 40,000 Android apps to browse through might be a little overwhelming.
Anyone care to discuss/recommend their favorite or essential Android apps and perhaps throw up links directly to them?
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this thread made me spit my mountain dew all over my hero. i hope your happy.
1)metamorph(rooted only; easily changes certain aspects of your phone whereas a flash might change others along with it)
2)wireless tether(rooted only)
3)facebook(not sense's watered down version)
4)estrong task manager (comes with a killall widget)
5)cachemate(makes your phone zippy when used correctly)
6)handcent(oh man...)
7)linda file manager(seems to be the best one, to me)
8)some sort of battery percentage widget(i actually havent settled on one yet)
9)picsaypro(mini photoshop on your phone)
10)google voice(google it)
11)iMusic+widget(limewire on your phone)
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i compiled this list by simply sliding through my app drawer, but didnt even think; the fact is, with the latest 2.1 builds theres litterally NO i.s., so i do my best to keep my app download-age as low as possible. theres actually alot of apps i download, install, use, then uninstall. a fun game you can check out it What The Doodle?! online multiplayer...draw on screen your keyword, people try to guess. I cant remember the name of the other game...Attack!! or somethig. your a cow and you tilt the phone to jump from platform to platform (like teeter, but with a cow, and the final destination is a spaceship)
i expect with the evo i.s. wont be an issue (1g?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?) so maybe ill update the list as i feel the need to remember a long lost app and redownload it.
so i spent a long time trying to decide whether to go with an android phone or hd2
i searched high and wide all over the internet. the only android phone for gsm with a comparable screen is the samsung i9000 which looks like it would come out at about 700 bucks. either that or you take the nexus one/desire which is also in that same ballpark. after all that i went ahead and got the hd2, and i am glad i did. any hardware comparable phone to the hd2 (which there currently isnt because with 1gb rom and 576 mb of ram, beats any other phone)(US version)
After a close look at everything and playing with a friends droid incredible while comparing it to my hd2, the only big advantages i could see to get an android phone would either be the open market place, google maps, speech to text.
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ok so you decide, hey let me dictate this msg. HERE IS AN IDEA, WHY NOT CALL THEM. (you might even get a chance to dictate it to someone listening).
the only place i can find real use for speech to text is while driving, and in that case, you technically shouldnt be using your phone PERIOD at that time.
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people keep griping (pronounce gryping) about googlemaps, but as great as googlemaps is, what happens when you lose your bars or do not have a data plan? *gulp* you are screwed. do yourself a favor and get a non-internet reliant gps software (like actual gps devices use), and i also feel that bing does a good job of matching googlemaps.
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THE MARKET PLACE. I do wish we had a market place, a nice central location where you can find everything you need. But i can tell you this, there are only so many apps you need until you get to the point where you are just trying to justify spending $X on a phone. A friend of mine while justifying how great his mytouch (android) phone is shows me all these apps he has. one app is a barcode scanner, and one app is google goggles. with goggles, the use of the barcode scanner is lost on me. (i think HD2 can also do that though). why go through all the trouble of opening your camera, looking for the barcode sending the item over the internet and all that when you could either just search for the barcode numbers (which funny enough is usually under the barcode) or searching for the items.
granted there are some nice apps like the statefarm pocket agent app out there, and most reputable companies(like banks etc) prefer to release apps for the iphone/android (my bank allows nexus one and iphone users take pics of check and automatically deposits the money into your account) but lets face it, most apps that people will need on a daily basis are also on winmo. An app that is used once or twice a month, while nice to have doesnt seem like that much of a big deal. Its kinda like getting a standby physician. Plus after a quick skim through the top apps on the marketplace, you find that 9/10 of all these apps are games (go figure), and even though they might be nice for your when you have to wait in a line or something, wouldnt a much larger screen be nicer to watch part of your fave tv show instead?
the hd2 has quite a few flaws, but the they are being fixed. Even though app development for windows 6.5 might go down when winmo7 comes out. I still like the HD2. I do not even think i would be switching to winmo7 since if i wanted an iphone, i would go get an iphone, i am not on facebook, twitter or any other social networking site.
only real reason i switched from my att tilt (the first one) was because the screen was so small and it had started to fall apart.
winmo by default sucks ass, but has limitless potential, where else would you find sms spammers, or american idol spammers (lol)
I'm not knocking android either, it has its perks and it would be nice to see what android is like on the hd2, but it makes little sense getting a winmo phone when you already knew you wanted an android phone, and then cluttering the boards asking for android. my winmo phone does everything i need it to do, so i am happy with it, i see my stocks, have my navigation from igo, have my alarm clock, IM, and calendar. ITS JUST LIKE BUYING A LAMBORGHINI AND COMPLAINING IT IS NOT A FERRARI.
only real sore point i can see no way around is flash coming to android. would have been nice to have flash but i guess i just have to take what i get.
Guys wasnt the main reason we fell in love with winmo because of the limitless possibilities?
Could not agree more, and don't forget the selection of UI's available and
the ability to configure your phone as you like it to be. Less than a month ago,
after researching Android and with the option to upgrade to the HTC Incredible
on Verizon vs the T-Mobile HD2, choose the HD2 with no regrets.
I agree too
I am really tired of all the people going i ditch my android phone or iphone for this and blah blah blah it windows mobile people what dont you get you can actual do something with this phone i love windows mobile after the years i know i know how could of like windows mobile with this will sense UI did the work to make the HD2 the best phone i had so far. I had a iphone it was okay I spent so much time fixing it to how i like it and boy it was not that easy at times lol but after a while I got the hang and did it but the apps please I stop using it for a while i would play with it for like a week and then i go boring android another story i never had one but i played with it and i was like wtf is with this crap please i don't want a phone that is set to make it easy to use because i was use to setting things to too and i know if i had an android the first thing i would do is flash it just to get to flash it lol but let get to the point if you want a android then get a android stop complaining about the windows mobile. If you want a iphone then go for it but sop you complaining about windows mobile too lol. I love my HD2 because there is a lot of nice roms and many possibility. And I forgot to mention the huge screen lol
The hard thing is trying to make sense of why a winmo phone is not more like iPhone or Android.
Do I buy Microsoft's arguement that they write the OS, but do not control the hardware that a Mobile Operator and a device manufacturer (OEM) put it on, or do I believe that someone is chasing their own tail?
I have the Nexus One, the Cliq and the MyTouch 3g. All are nice phones that I was perfectly happy with. I also owned an earlier version of the iPhone...and yes...my opinions then...and now...it was awesome...even with any faults. Yet, when presented with the HD2, my Nexus One now sits dusty and on my table.
'Good Hardware' is the key here. WinMo on the PURE...sucks. it lasted 48 hrs in my house. The Hardware package around the HD2 makes WinMo work...better. XDA makes WinMo better. So what if they take parts from here...and there....and produce great stuff....shouldn't that be ok.
I think some body in Redmond is watching. Windows Phone 7 has the potential to be GREAT...and I want one. A winmo OS with Zune...and Zune marketplace...on a 1300+ ghz hardware device....makes my toes curl. I saw a couple of models on PDADB.net the other day. I think that Microsoft, controlling more of the hardware...is the right idea. people do NOT realize how much Microsoft Windows Mobile suffers from Mobile Operator spec and boreware ...until they get to XDA and REMOVE that stuff. Right now I have the EnergyRom on my HD2....If I show it to ANYONE....they are surprised but interested. This is the same for any other ROM I may run. EXCEPT...the stock TMO rom...WP7 is supposed to remove that option....
BUT.....but....a winmo based Marketplace...hmmmm....it would be nice. Don't ya think the Apple ads...."We got an app for that"....are cool? With my androids, I could find anything I wanted,....at that moment...for my Nexus One....at the airport....is the flight on time????? Marketplace...tap tap touch...no...flight is delayed by 20 minutes. Try doing that on Windows Marketplace....you can't. Where's the nearest seafood restaurant....on Android...tap tap touch...get directions.....try doing that on Windows Marketplace...you can't. Or, my favorite....touch button..speak...Starbucks near here...get directions. It's not how many apps you can have....its about getting the apps you may want...when you want them....
But Android (or apple) marketplace did not keep me from the HD2. 5 minutes after holding the phone...I knew I made the right choice...XDA proved that anything can be done with the phone. Now, my buddy with the iPhone....says ....Wow...I can't do that with my iPhone. I just tell him...maybe there's a app for that...
After all....Windows 7...was my idea....maybe they'll listen to me about Windows Phone 7 too....
+1 on all of you.
Explain that to most people is really hard. WinMo is Vast, limitless but at the same time also complicated. I can live with that, the OS is so Fun to tweak and tinker. My earlier desicion was HD2 or Milestone thanks god i choose HD2 otherwise i only had free apps to have fun with and then get bores while with HD2 you have tons of Custom ROM just for start.
I think WM7 is too limited and controlled in comparison to WM 6.x and try to be more like "the other -read Android/IPhone" Not sure if i will upgrade but only time will tell.
I dont want to talk about Iphone, it is just boring.
I dont regret buying the Hd2. Windows mobile is nice for customization.
I just get tired of the layer skinning. My biggest problem with windows mobile is how different the text messaging looks when you get away from the sense ui
I had a g1 and the screen is just to small for me. Love android but hate small screens
well most people want to get these phones and they want it to do everything there is in the world to do. well i say that ITS JUST A PHONE!!!!!!!! sure i have a htc hd2 don't get me wrong its amazing on what it does and what it can do but remember this that its a phone. people want phones to do everything like gps, bank stuff, music, youtube, facebook, and other stuff. I don't really care on what the phone can or can't do, its a phone and its screen is amazing for seeing vids and besides i want a phone for my entertainment, text, calls, and well since it has internet of course use it. Either way The htc hd2 is a multitasker if you ask me and it is one of the most impressive phones out there and thats why i LOVE it.
try me.. its the next best device regardless if its wm 6.5
very solid points addressed! I use Garmin mobile XT, with 2011 maps 3D moving maps that were released in late April. the maps and program take 2 gigs on my 16 gb sd card. It rarely uses data other than to locate gas prices and weather. POI and everything else is stored to the phone. It has the speech step by step direction. I find it to be annoying, and set it to silence. The radio is really powerful, the satellite are found in seconds... unlike my Tp2 that takes around 10 minutes locate.
cookie Ht has a huge advantage on Sense... why even give windows credit other than better, stable drivers and 6.5 start menu vs 6.0 list..... Sense 2.5 covers to whole interface of the hd2 and paints a beautiful device. i have greatly enhanced my skins on sence, keyboard and dialer.
people complain cuz its not intuitive first time out of the box like the iphone that has beautiful eyecandy UI and they feel good knowing a child could use it. nor do they want to spend a cent more for programs to do actually what they want. its a shame. i really dont think the camera should matter, since their not meant for profession use. just a quick snap shot of a memory, all these camera phones in the dark are terrible. im happy for once, these are equipped with a 3.5 jack for music. i could ask for more. but we know that some people cant to be pleased nor willing to make it better by talking to the community to give us what would be it better.... their lose... our treasure... worth more than in the weight of gold. hehe
ok i''ve owned the g1 and them mytouch 3g. ive rooted these phones n played with them to their extreme . now i own the hd2. trust me the Android operating system is very very good also windows os, but there is two things that will make the windows os outstanding over any os ...1 i think that wm have the most apps than any other os in Apple n what they should do is have a complete make over of the wm market n have every app there is n categorize them according to what os version you have....2 finishing touch to this is creating a new os system which its UI is modern n very attractive because to be honest it feels like im running windows 5 on laptop built in 2010...im not fund of Wphone 7 becauseuUI to me isnt that customizable but one thing i do love about it is the gaming. if this is implemented onnn the hd2 you will have close to perfect mobile os ever
I still have a lot to learn about operating my hd2 – but coming from a Palm (680 and Centro) I really am happy with this phone. I wanted to stop carrying around my media player (Archos 604), my thumb-drive, a small fm radio and wanted to have a gps, real internet access , and a phone that I could listen to books on through my Bluetooth while in boring meetings. I feel I have it all in the hd2.
I picked up one of the many iphone books the other day and went through it to see what I would use on the ipone and couldn’t find any, that I would want to do, that I don’t have on the HD2. I’m not knocking the ipone, everyone I know who has one loves it – I’m just not that into texting, games, fart apps, facebbok, twitter ,or any other social media.
It is aggravating though, to walk into Best Buy and see 50 docking stations, 100 cases/covers, etc. and nothing for the HD2.
if you really wanna see how android is gonna fare on the hd2, just check out your local sprint store and check out the htc sprint evo 4g.
that being said, i own both an hd2 and two android handsets that are rooted.
what i like most about win 6.5 is the ability to customize it as much as i can a rooted android phone i.e. overclock the cpu (i just found an app for it), custom theme, save apps to sd card, play flash videos etc etc.
however, i do feel that it is a bit outdated and is more complicated to use. takes a bit of a learning curve v. android os, which is more simple to use. i see tons of potential for windows mobile 6.5 but it's a damn shame that microsoft is moving on to a more closed platform with windows mobile 7.
long term, i will probably head back to android in that regard due to updates and that it just keeps getting better and better (upcoming froyo update and then the gingerbread update which will allow for the saving of apps to sd card, etc)
engineer14 said:
so i spent a long time trying to decide whether to go with an android phone or hd2
i searched high and wide all over the internet. the only android phone for gsm with a comparable screen is the samsung i9000 which looks like it would come out at about 700 bucks. either that or you take the nexus one/desire which is also in that same ballpark. after all that i went ahead and got the hd2, and i am glad i did. any hardware comparable phone to the hd2 (which there currently isnt because with 1gb rom and 576 mb of ram, beats any other phone)(US version)
After a close look at everything and playing with a friends droid incredible while comparing it to my hd2, the only big advantages i could see to get an android phone would either be the open market place, google maps, speech to text.
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ok so you decide, hey let me dictate this msg. HERE IS AN IDEA, WHY NOT CALL THEM. (you might even get a chance to dictate it to someone listening).
the only place i can find real use for speech to text is while driving, and in that case, you technically shouldnt be using your phone PERIOD at that time.
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people keep griping (pronounce gryping) about googlemaps, but as great as googlemaps is, what happens when you lose your bars or do not have a data plan? *gulp* you are screwed. do yourself a favor and get a non-internet reliant gps software (like actual gps devices use), and i also feel that bing does a good job of matching googlemaps.
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THE MARKET PLACE. I do wish we had a market place, a nice central location where you can find everything you need. But i can tell you this, there are only so many apps you need until you get to the point where you are just trying to justify spending $X on a phone. A friend of mine while justifying how great his mytouch (android) phone is shows me all these apps he has. one app is a barcode scanner, and one app is google goggles. with goggles, the use of the barcode scanner is lost on me. (i think HD2 can also do that though). why go through all the trouble of opening your camera, looking for the barcode sending the item over the internet and all that when you could either just search for the barcode numbers (which funny enough is usually under the barcode) or searching for the items.
granted there are some nice apps like the statefarm pocket agent app out there, and most reputable companies(like banks etc) prefer to release apps for the iphone/android (my bank allows nexus one and iphone users take pics of check and automatically deposits the money into your account) but lets face it, most apps that people will need on a daily basis are also on winmo. An app that is used once or twice a month, while nice to have doesnt seem like that much of a big deal. Its kinda like getting a standby physician. Plus after a quick skim through the top apps on the marketplace, you find that 9/10 of all these apps are games (go figure), and even though they might be nice for your when you have to wait in a line or something, wouldnt a much larger screen be nicer to watch part of your fave tv show instead?
the hd2 has quite a few flaws, but the they are being fixed. Even though app development for windows 6.5 might go down when winmo7 comes out. I still like the HD2. I do not even think i would be switching to winmo7 since if i wanted an iphone, i would go get an iphone, i am not on facebook, twitter or any other social networking site.
only real reason i switched from my att tilt (the first one) was because the screen was so small and it had started to fall apart.
winmo by default sucks ass, but has limitless potential, where else would you find sms spammers, or american idol spammers (lol)
I'm not knocking android either, it has its perks and it would be nice to see what android is like on the hd2, but it makes little sense getting a winmo phone when you already knew you wanted an android phone, and then cluttering the boards asking for android. my winmo phone does everything i need it to do, so i am happy with it, i see my stocks, have my navigation from igo, have my alarm clock, IM, and calendar. ITS JUST LIKE BUYING A LAMBORGHINI AND COMPLAINING IT IS NOT A FERRARI.
only real sore point i can see no way around is flash coming to android. would have been nice to have flash but i guess i just have to take what i get.
Guys wasnt the main reason we fell in love with winmo because of the limitless possibilities?
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Each to its own. Now we have HD2, iPod Touch, iPhone 3GS, and iPad. We also got an Android phone in the family. Instead of pitching them against one another, we make them complement and work together. For example, we have the only mobile data plan we need on my iPhone - beside all the goodies it can offer, we use it as a wifi router for all our mobile devices.
The main reasons I bought HD2 were its beautiful/huge screen, and the xda-developers forum. I don't intend to upgrade to WM7 even if it was available.
The same kind of people that complain about WinMo and think their iphone is so much better are the kind of closed minded people that cant think for themselves, try something new, and actually embrace and learn it.
The iphone/ipad are created for one thing mass consumer media consumption, and apple getting a cut of every itunes/app store purchase, with the iphone having a phone built in. It's definitely a very smart business for apple, but not one that I want to be part of, since im quite capable of figuring out how to get apps, and media on my WinMo device without the need of itunes or an app store
Im sure like many others here happy with their WinMo Phones, you have probably been using WinMo phones for a long time already, and some like myself have been using WinMo before it was ever on phones and just a PDA. I still have my 1st WinMo PDA, a toshiba e750, amazing for how old it is, the processor in it is almost as fast as most of last years WinMo phones. I used to BT tether the PDA to my cell phone to be able to do email and web browsing, then finally got a T-Mobile MDA shortly after it came out to merge the 2 devices into one, though at a performance hit, because of the lower processor speed.
These phones are quite literally like having a desktop PC in your pocket, with android also being similar experience from what i've read, though i've not actually owned an android device to play with
I've been fascinated by "palmtop" portable computing for quite awhile, with my 1st such device being an HP 200LX palmtop running DOS 5. I still have that palmtop sitting on my desk and it works still too! I always wanted to get one of the palmtop format windows mobile devices (windows ce), but couldn't justify the expense at the time having just graduated from HS and in college. I also remember the laptop format WinMo devices.
I also find it fascinating to find windows mobile/ce in devices that people would have never expected it in, nor complain about because they cant see the underlying OS. an example is the car stereo I have, a Roadmaster VR3 VRVD640G. There are hacks for it that somewhat let you get into the underlying OS.
I recently recieved my Hd2 and I love it. It is my first WinMo powered device. I owned a G1 (Dream) and while I really liked it and Android, I think that WinMo 6.5 is a much more customizeable and powerful OS. The level of complexity is alot higher, however. That is what I think turns people off of WinMo. I am enjoying the undertaking of learning this new (to me) OS.
Edit: I do think that in time, as it matures and with devices such as the N1 and the Desire, Android will be a quite powerful OS.
you know im so happy to see that their are others out there that see past winmo on the HD2 and are taking more consideration for the hardware specs...ive had the gsm htc hero,the nexus one,desire,Nokia n900 etc. and honestly, i was completely let down by all of those devices,but,thats just been my experience with them. even though the winmo isnt as snappy as android or the iphone..its still is kick ass phone...not downplay winmos but they are working on the kernals for linux and WM7 and considering most devices,we have one the better devices to date and iam very content with wm6.5 and 6.5.5
Well symbian and windows mobile had been the most hated OS in the US and maybe windows mobile been hated all over the world. I think its a nice OS but I think windows slept on the development, I think it became so critical how much they slept on the OS that alot of people here knows the in and out of the OS with out been hired or took any training about the OS which to me that amazing and probably never seen in any other OS in the world. not to mention HTC took sense and did their part as well but you never see windows team developing anything. I almost didnt buy the HD2 for the simple fact microsoft decided to develop KIN and windows 7 series instead of giving us a better support.
HEY I DISAGREE......... but i must say thank you for the info u gave me more info then any carrier could give the hd2 is a bigger & faster device but the differences u pulled the hd2 also hav hd2 has googlemaps it also has text to speech wat people people fail to see and realize is that the andoid market allows u to demo the product winmo doesnt which is suck and thats why u hav guys like me that searches the web for the product for free its out here it just cost but most of the apps that the andoid market hav winmo also has its just a matter of searching for it. my job on here is test multiple software to see if it can run and work together without issuse and or bugs and to run on the hd2 without error its crazy i go to a site find software and its free then find it at another site that charges for it .... now i dont think i can list the sites because of forum rules and regs but there out there waitin on u but u hav googlemaps with buzz also microsoft myphone and microsoft voice command
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if you really wanna see how android is gonna fare on the hd2, just check out your local sprint store and check out the htc sprint evo 4g.
that being said, i own both an hd2 and two android handsets that are rooted.
what i like most about win 6.5 is the ability to customize it as much as i can a rooted android phone i.e. overclock the cpu (i just found an app for it), custom theme, save apps to sd card, play flash videos etc etc.
however, i do feel that it is a bit outdated and is more complicated to use. takes a bit of a learning curve v. android os, which is more simple to use. i see tons of potential for windows mobile 6.5 but it's a damn shame that microsoft is moving on to a more closed platform with windows mobile 7.
long term, i will probably head back to android in that regard due to updates and that it just keeps getting better and better (upcoming froyo update and then the gingerbread update which will allow for the saving of apps to sd card, etc)
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wait it out and u will be able to run both the drod and winmo on the hd2 without problems
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however, i do feel that it is a bit outdated and is more complicated to use. takes a bit of a learning curve v. android os, which is more simple to use. i see tons of potential for windows mobile 6.5 but it's a damn shame that microsoft is moving on to a more closed platform with windows mobile 7.
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I personally wonder if WinMo is as dead, atleast from a MS prospective as people are saying. Yes WinMo is used in many consumer phones which is what I see WinPhone7 replacing, but WinMo is used in MANY other places still.
Like my example of my car stereo in the post lastnight.
Symbol uses it in the "LRT" devices that many stores use for stock tracking. You see target employees carrying them all the time. hell APPLE stores used them with WinMo until they managed to hack a card reader onto their iphone.
The Symbol price check scanners you find at many retail stores are WinMo based. I've seen them crashed at walmart with the floating WinMo keyboard on top of their price check app.
I've seen symbol Pin entry/signature capture/card swipe terminals at stores like JC penny and the now defunct circuit city that i highly suspected to be running windows mobile due to the sound tones played while using the touch screen, they were the default for WinMo.
I highly suspect that Symbol is a huge WinMo customer of MS.
I've also recently been to the Seminole hard rock casino here in Tampa and noticed on some slot machines that the little screens just shows small ads had WinMo intenet explorer windows that had apparently got stuck while loading the next ad and you saw the default IE could not load page screen. I have no idea if the entire slot machine is WinMo based or just certain functions like that screen.
Yes i understand from a consumer prospective its pretty much dead because there will be no more releases for phones and app development is likely to die off as time goes on.
Also in alot of these cases it is more technically Windows CE, which windows mobile is a subset of, but its quite literally all the same code base, just a matter of what modules the OEM loads in their distribution
God knows how many other places it's running, you never know till you see one crashed or notice a few telltale signs. Some ATMs used to be Win98 based. Yes I quite literally saw an old style Win98 BSOD on one of my credit unions's ATM's years back. it was a Diebold machine. Would not surprise me if alot of them are WinMo or embedded XP now.
Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
Here is a short list of features that I *love* about the Xoom so far:
- Holy **** the screen is sexy. Playing around with some of these apps on a 10" widescreen is awesome.
- Battery Life - I am charing the thing overnight, picking it up in the morning at 100% and then typically ending the day at 70+% remaining. This is fantastic to me.
- Portability and ease of access - Using my acer netbook was a pain in the ass because I had to wait for windows to load, the desktop to show up... the workspace to be ready. This is instant on and ready.
- RDP works well - I can get into my books from anywhere, generate invoices and e-mail them to a customer right there on the spot. It's impressive and when you're a technology company it just looks good.
- Email support - The exchange support is awesome. The stock mail client could be a little stronger but I am very happy that it supports HTML as the android 2.2 / 2.3 mail client on my Nexus One does not/did not.
- Available storage space - Not having the SD slot isn't bothering me one bit. I would go as far as saying I may not ever even need it. Shipping the product with 32GB of internal storage was the way to go.
- App support - Out of the box, like 90% of my apps worked fine (granted I only use heavily maybe 5 out of the 40 that i have installed). The one or two apps that were missing at launch I've already gotten word from the developers that tablet ready versions or updates are on the way.
- Connectivity - Being a first time Verizon subscriber I am very impressed with the radio and/or 3G network behind it. When my AT&T phone has a **** signal or no signal at all, this Xoom tablet still picks up signal. That's cool to me and is a point that I would like to make separately about the need for the 3G version. Sure, I can tether through my AT&T phone but then I've got two points of failure to worry about.
My thoughts and comments regarding media consumption on this device:
- Music - I haven't had any issues at all. I use Windows Media Player 12 as a part of Windows 7 to manage my music library and it works wonderfully with the Xoom. I sync music to it just like any other generic MP3/music player. I susbcribe to the Zune Pass so actually obtaining music for me is a function I do on my PC, and then just transfer the music as I want or need it. To say that I must be able to download or purchase XYZ song on the road isn't necessary... isn't that what Pandora is for? Use Pandora to listen to what you want until you are in a position to purchase music, then do that. That's how I approach it.
- Videos/Movies - I'm not really a big "watch videos/movies on your portable" guy to begin with. That said, I do like to use youtube to show off certain things like video game trailers or movie trailers or something... but you tube isn't the issue on the Xoom and I don't think ever has been or ever will be. Some people have complained that the Xoom doesn't play the same H.264 videos that they can play on their Droid. To them I say that I'm sorry but your droid isn't running a Tegra 2 chipset. I do agree that the Tegra 2 should be able to handle a lot but I didn't design it.. shrug, what do I know. Seemingly however... the thing plays H.264 just fine if its encoded properly and it looks damn good. I ripped Kill Bill Volume 1 to H.264 with a 2k bitrate and it looked fantastic on the Xoom screen. I will admit that I'm not the best guy to take advice from in this area.
My thoughts / comments on whiners:
- Flash / SD Card Support - I really don't have anything to say about this. Flash 10.2 will be out soon enough and as far as the SD card is concerned I don't even need it. I only have a 4GB Class 6 micro SD card what's that going to do for me? It's laughable in size compared to whats in the unit.. I would only want to put a matching 32GB sd card in and that's gonna be another $100 minimum. Now your $799 device is an $899 device... where's the complaint for that?
- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
Nice review, particularly liked, "- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone."
Couldn't agree more!
Just ordered myself a Xoom and you've made me feel even better about my purchase. I'm a little worried about the video codecs thing but I'm sure Rockplayer or some such will sort that out. Thanks for a great review.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone has particular questions about the device or advice on how to best use the device for their situation fire away.
agreed up to one point
i agree man, def however
google voice must be used on this. not because of texting as a cellphone but because it does much more and can be so amazingly baked with all other google products.
that my friend, is inarguable.
please help that at least here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978779
You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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Google Voice gives you a platform independent texting and voicemail interface. It does help to have it handy.
Why shouldn't your android tablet and phone be linked in some way so that you could receive notifications on either device and respond to them exactly like how webos works? Who could act like this is a ridiculous request??
Also, don't get your hopes up with regards to media playback. Tegra 2 is awful in that regard and has been proven on here in a different thread to be incapable of 720p high profile, which all galaxy s phones can do flawlessly.
Also, asking got certain features or if something is possible is not complaining.
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my second one is much more protected now thanks for the sad comment.
anyways, i am baffled at how one wouldnt want this, clearly people havent FOUND the use of it, to which i understand.
the customizations on notifications; be it text or voicemail is amazing and so useful, having this on your tablet WILL be a big plus trust me.
controlling voice mail set ups for particular people, having transcribed vm being able to foward that/ download that, controll recorded phone conversations, archiving, starring emails/texts
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- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
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Couldnt you use an app to hand those stuff over your 3g/4g services?
I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
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I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
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The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
Eclair~ said:
The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
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I agree. And its something that iOS and Android aren't even close to implementing. I see no reason why Google couldn't figure this out. I'm assuming that it will come later, probably with 2.4 for phones which will apparently implement what Google learned about 3.0 back into phones.
Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
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Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
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I use SMS Backup for this very reason and just put gmail label shortcuts on my tablet. If my phone is upstairs or in my bag, I can just check the email to see if I got any texts.
But it would be cool if I could automatically notify on my tablet.
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Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
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I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
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Morkai Almandragon said:
I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
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I agree. People that make an argument like this are no better than apple in telling them what limits their device has.
And the guy wasn't complaining about airplane GPS, he was just wondering about it. There's a lot of people that do recreational flying and only do daylight clear weather trips. A GPS is great to tell you where you are, its not like they'd be using it to get from point A to point B or landing on a runway in fog or flying a commercial airliner.
Just because someone wants something better (for them) doesn't mean its a complaint, its merely a wish. Ideas and hopes make these devices better and inspire devs to create things we all love.
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Here's just a few questions I have about how people use their HTC Hero:
Is the Hero your primary phone?
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement?
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it?
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)?
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone?
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon?
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it?
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Here's just a few questions I have about how people use their HTC Hero:
Is the Hero your primary phone?
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement?
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it?
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)?
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone?
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon?
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it?
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1. Until next week, it's my primary phone.
2. I would use this phone as a emergency replacement if my soon to be galaxy s3 should be damaged or not working, which i doubt will happen.
3. No I don't use this at all. Probably never will.
4. Nope
5. Just the trackball.
6. As soon as I get my galaxy, I'm burying this phone.
7. I wouldn't.
Is the Hero your primary phone? Not anymore
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement? Will soon be a secondary phone for business use
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it? No
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)? No
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone? It was my first Android phone and is still an awesome phone. Thats all I got. My Evo3D is by far a better phone though
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon? I will keep it till it fully dies and then toss it in with the rest of my dead phones. lol
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it? Probably if the price was right.
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Here's just a few questions I have about how people use their HTC Hero:
Is the Hero your primary phone?
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement?
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it?
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)?
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone?
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon?
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it?
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1) Yes, till the LG Nexus comes out
2) N/A
3) I have swapped hero's, but only in a corporate store
4) Only have my initial hero had a radio problem
5) N/A
6) I'll be moving to the next LG Nexus phone
7) I don't see this happening. From a hardware and software standpoint, it's just not feasible.
Interesting replies so far. I hadn't supplied mine, so here they are:
Is the Hero your primary phone? Yes, although I have a 2nd Hero on standby in case my primary is out of commission or lost.
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement? N/A
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it? I once used the website activation to switch from my Hero to an LG Lotus for a temporary period, but that's about it.
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)? No.
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone? What I like about it over other phones I'm considering are: a) the form factor, b) the track ball.
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon? I am in the market for a replacement, with the HTC Evo 4G LTE as my first choice at the moment. Once I get it, I'll keep the Hero as a stand-by phone.
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it? Yes, if the price is reasonable.
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Here's just a few questions I have about how people use their HTC Hero:
Is the Hero your primary phone?
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement?
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it?
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)?
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone?
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon?
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it?
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I got a used Hero for ten bucks off ebay. I'm still on a dumb phone because I don't care to pay the monthly data fees and smartphone fees. So I slapped CM7 on it so I could have a device to hop on wifi should I ever need it. So I purged all the cellphone/data items on CM7 and I have a battery life of between four to seven days depending on how heavily I use it (of course if I'm using it heavily all day it drains but I use it very sparingly).
It's been very handy for instances like these. Since I live in NY I'm often walking around and carrying a laptop or even a tablet really is a huge pain. So it was worth the ten bucks
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cytherian said:
Here's just a few questions I have about how people use their HTC Hero:
Is the Hero your primary phone? No
If not your primary, is it used occasionally as a secondary phone or only as an emergency replacement? No longer used as a phone. See below.
Do you use the on-line activation to switch between your Hero and your primary phone? If not, how do you do it? N/A
Do you randomly switch between phones or do it for specific reasons (like going hiking, taking a trip, etc)? Specific reasons
Is there anything about the Hero you like over your primary phone? Form factor
Do you expect to continue using your Hero until it finally dies, or do you plan to get rid of it soon? Until it dies or becomes too painfully slow.
If a company made an aftermarket circuit board for the Hero that provides an upgraded processor, would you buy it? I would strongly consider it.
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For the last year and a half, this phone has been used as a mini-tablet/media device for my daughter. An Otterbox is absolutely necessary and exceeded my expectations. My HeroC survived dozens and dozens of flights across the room. That thing would get disgusting with smeared food and snot over time, but a periodic disassemble and rinse was all it would need. I ran CM 7.1 & CM 7.2. I've installed the following apps: "No Lock" (as a lock screen added a pointless, additional step for a 2 year old), "Android Parental Control" (to lock down the device to only run three apps (camera, YouTube, and MxPlayer)), MxPlayer (movies), and an ad-blocker so no sketchy ads come up for her to click. I then stuffed the SD card full of movies for her. Had to split long movies into two parts due to the 1:20 freeze issue (which I never figured out how to fix). APC is ugly, but worked flawlessly. MxPlayer was intutitive enough for my 2 year old to navigate between movies and use, but she would occasionally get herself into trouble by entering the settings and randomly clicking. She was constantly accidentially turning off HW acceleration, but it was always easy to fix.
This month we are upgrading her to a Nexus 7. I'm now looking for new ways to repurpose this device. I'm leaning in two directions: Automotive PVR/Navigation/Torque or IP Camera for my front door.
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For the last year and a half, this phone has been used as a mini-tablet/media device for my daughter. An Otterbox is absolutely necessary and exceeded my expectations. My HeroC survived dozens and dozens of flights across the room. That thing would get disgusting with smeared food and snot over time, but a periodic disassemble and rinse was all it would need. I ran CM 7.1 & CM 7.2. I've installed the following apps: "No Lock" (as a lock screen added a pointless, additional step for a 2 year old), "Android Parental Control" (to lock down the device to only run three apps (camera, YouTube, and MxPlayer)), MxPlayer (movies), and an ad-blocker so no sketchy ads come up for her to click. I then stuffed the SD card full of movies for her. Had to split long movies into two parts due to the 1:20 freeze issue (which I never figured out how to fix). APC is ugly, but worked flawlessly. MxPlayer was intutitive enough for my 2 year old to navigate between movies and use, but she would occasionally get herself into trouble by entering the settings and randomly clicking. She was constantly accidentially turning off HW acceleration, but it was always easy to fix.
This month we are upgrading her to a Nexus 7. I'm now looking for new ways to repurpose this device. I'm leaning in two directions: Automotive PVR/Navigation/Torque or IP Camera for my front door.
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Was just reading this and I have to say thank you. My 3 1/2 year old is the primary user of my hero now for some learning games and stuff and I never really knew of any parental apps or even really thought to look for any really but I will be looking into the one you posted here as my kiddo will always get a fat finger and then comes running to me cause its not on his game anymore. lol
As for the IP camera, I was/am using that here and there and love it. Are you using that yet and if so, what app(s) do you like best?
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Hippie459MN said:
Was just reading this and I have to say thank you. My 3 1/2 year old is the primary user of my hero now for some learning games and stuff and I never really knew of any parental apps or even really thought to look for any really but I will be looking into the one you posted here as my kiddo will always get a fat finger and then comes running to me cause its not on his game anymore. lol
As for the IP camera, I was/am using that here and there and love it. Are you using that yet and if so, what app(s) do you like best?
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No problem. I'd be curious to know which parental control software that you ultimately choose. I haven't gone down the IP cam road yet. That will probably be next. Maybe I'll write a round-up of as many apps as I can?
I chose the car computer route and it didn't work out. Torque connecting to a cheap eBay ELM327 Bluetooth OBDII transmitter worked flawlessly, but the screen was just too small to be usable. The "black box" DVR was also hit and miss. I tried DailyRoads Voyager and I believe the software is top notch. Although GPS and motion sensor data logged just, the DVR video framerate & quality was too poor to be usable. It was very "jelly cam" and I could not even read the license plate of the car in front of me on the video. After having used it, I'm a believer in the Car Mode app. It very much makes switching between apps and using the phone safer and I will use it again if I ever get a spare Android device with a good camera.
Oh, well. Back to the drawing board. I'm determined to find a use for the Hero with some real-world value.
Windows phone 8.1 developer preview is released and anyone can install the developer copy.
http://www.negablog.com/2014/04/windows-phone-81-developer-preview.html
... this needed its own thread... why, exactly? I mean, has there been a single thread on this part of the forum today that *wasn't* about 8.1?
ok
So this might be the stupidest question you've ever heard.
But is there any way to install wp8.1 on android hardware?
So is there anyway of installing it on my Xperia Z
Just had to ask this because in a big big fan of wp.
Your right, it was ? but even more interesting is its not the first time I've heard it, search an you'll find them too ?
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As of now Microsoft has made it possible to run wp8.1 on same hardware so is there a way to install this developer preview on my device?
Or will there ever be a way.?
xdockster said:
As of now Microsoft has made it possible to run wp8.1 on same hardware so is there a way to install this developer preview on my device?
Or will there ever be a way.?
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If you are such a huge fan of windows phone why don't you buy one, like the rest of us?
Windows phone 8.1 is awesome. I am using it :laugh::laugh:
mcosmin222 said:
If you are such a huge fan of windows phone why don't you buy one, like the rest of us?
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Hey man,i would love to... But unfortunately i used all my funds on xperia......
So if you find a way to install it on xperia please tell me.
agonzalez1010 said:
I just converted to Windows Phone 8. I'm rocking a T-Mobile Nokia Lumina 925. I have experience using both Android and iOS. For some reason the simplicity of WP8 has made me "content" with using it.
A few things I just wanted to note. Perhaps someone here can answer the questions if he or she has it.
1. SMS Transfers (While I was able to successfully move my SMS messages using the Nokia Transfer App on my Nexus 5, iOS is a different Story. When I run it against iOS is recognizes the texts but says there is 0, when there a lot more then that.
2. USB Streaming in the car. (I have a USB port in my 2010 Chevy Cruze. While I was able to stream anything from Pandora to Tune IN off my iPhone, the Nexus 5 couldn't do this. I had to resort to using the AUX port, but the sound quality was lousy. I wanted to know if there was an app or something that may allow me to use my USB port on my WP8 phone
3. YouTube. (I had no clue why Google has been not friendly in allowing a native YouTube app on WP8. I do find alternatives in Windows Marketplace, but I would like a suggestion of one that is the best one to use)
4. Apple TV (Now I know folks will probably laugh their ass off, but is there an app that would let me stream content to it. If not is there a device I can purchase that can?)
5. WP8 Info (Unfortunately unlike Android, there isn't much of anything on XDA that talks about WP8. Are their known websites {don't freaking tell me to google it} that has more info on the OS.
6. Google Now (again another laugh your ass moment, but I really liked those darn cards. The one in particular was giving me a travel time from my home to work and vise versa. Is there an app that can do that in the WP8 Store?)
7.Battery Life (I'm amazed at the battery life of this thing. It's lasted longer then iOS and Android but I miss not being able to see how much percent I have left. Again the WP8 store had a dime of dozen apps for this, but i'm looking for a good recommendation on one that I can use.)
8. OWA. (There was an app I was using with the Nexus 5 called 'FASTOWA'. It let me logon to my corp Exchange account using OWA where I can quickly look at messages. The company doesn't allow ActiveSync so this work around was pretty much what I used. Is their an app alternative for this on WP8)
Again Thanks in Advance for posting some answers. I know there will be some smirk comments about this, but those who do happen to come upon this thread and give me real answers, I'll really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Angel
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1.- No idea about SMS transfers. Maybe iOS has its own storage system for storing sms.
2.- What do you mean by USB Streaming? Maybe you're confused, as the iPhone dock also has an analog line-out and can stream audio out of it. In Windows Phone, as well as in Android, you don't have that dock port as it's an Apple proprietary port. You're stuck with line out, which is not bad at all if you have a good cable and set it correctly.
3.- Currently, the best YouTube app for Windows Phone is MetroTube (which costs US$ 0.99). The other good app is YouTube HD (which is free). Both of them gives you great functionality and many options.
4.- Apple TV uses their own proprietary streaming system called AirPlay, while Nokia and every other phone manufacturer uses DLNA (which is a standard by the way). If you want your Apple TV to stream content from your phone (whether it's Windows Phone, Android, Blackberry, whatever), you need to download an app to your Apple TV device to work as a DLNA device. Once you've done that, you can easily stream content from your Nokia phone using Nokia Play To. (which uses DLNA)
5.- WPCentral is a good site with info. XDA forums are good as well.
6.- No idea as I have never used Google now myself. Sorry.
7.- You can use This or This app to see the phone battery percentage. Windows Phone 8.1 will show percentage on the notifications bar.
8.- There should be no problem at all configuring your enterprise account as "Exchange server" on the accounts settings.
Hope this post was helpful.
Any time anybody requests "{don't freaking tell me to google it}" I assume they're an <REDACTED> who thinks their time is more valuable that that of the forum members who they expect to answer their easily-looked-up facts for them, and also so unintelligent that they think they'll save time writing a post rather than just looking it up themselves. These are behaviors I actively dis-incentivize on the forum, for example by not answering even if I know the answer, in the hopes that you or somebody else reading this post in the future will learn.
By the way, the #1 rule of this forum is "Search before posting".
Now, if you meant to say "I looked for a good site but there are so many; which one do you all prefer?", or maybe "I searched but all I got were support and specifications sites, and I want discussion and announcements" or something else of that variety, you should have said that. Give people an opportunity to demonstrate their knowledge or Google-fu *without* sounding like an entitled <REDACTED> who can't be bothered to forum rules, and many of them will do so.
Oh, and it's "Lumia". I have no idea why people keep adding an extra 'n' to the name. It's a slightly weird letter combo in English, but not *that* weird, and it just looks wrong written with six letters instead of five so you don't even have the excuse that it "looks about right; I don't remember the real spelling".
The individual who replied before hand, GDTD, is possible one of the few remaining developers that try and support the platform out in the open for no other benefit then to help and contribute to the community. Given the amount of inane questions that are asked on here through no other reason then laziness, much of which is directed at GDTD, its not hard to see why devs an long term contributors get a little peeved when asked questions that can easily be found out, the internet is full of just about anything you can think of, google even helps you find most of it, but xda is primary source of that information, not a regurgitator of it
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cybermiguel said:
1.- No idea about SMS transfers. Maybe iOS has its own storage system for storing sms.
2.- What do you mean by USB Streaming? Maybe you're confused, as the iPhone dock also has an analog line-out and can stream audio out of it. In Windows Phone, as well as in Android, you don't have that dock port as it's an Apple proprietary port. You're stuck with line out, which is not bad at all if you have a good cable and set it correctly.
3.- Currently, the best YouTube app for Windows Phone is MetroTube (which costs US$ 0.99). The other good app is YouTube HD (which is free). Both of them gives you great functionality and many options.
4.- Apple TV uses their own proprietary streaming system called AirPlay, while Nokia and every other phone manufacturer uses DLNA (which is a standard by the way). If you want your Apple TV to stream content from your phone (whether it's Windows Phone, Android, Blackberry, whatever), you need to download an app to your Apple TV device to work as a DLNA device. Once you've done that, you can easily stream content from your Nokia phone using Nokia Play To. (which uses DLNA)
5.- WPCentral is a good site with info. XDA forums are good as well.
6.- No idea as I have never used Google now myself. Sorry.
7.- You can use This or This app to see the phone battery percentage. Windows Phone 8.1 will show percentage on the notifications bar.
8.- There should be no problem at all configuring your enterprise account as "Exchange server" on the accounts settings.
Hope this post was helpful.
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Cortana can give you the same thing as Google now. I like Cortana a lot better.
One site you can go to for more info on Windows Phone , is Windows Phone Central. http://www.wpcentral.com/
Hope I'm not in trouble for giving a link.
Jilxz said:
Cortana can give you the same thing as Google now. I like Cortana a lot better.
One site you can go to for more info on Windows Phone , is Windows Phone Central. http://www.wpcentral.com/
Hope I'm not in trouble for giving a link.
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Why would breaking Forum rule number 11 get you in to trouble?
As a general rule of thumb, if another site has information that is relevant to your post then post that information HERE then supply a link to the person who deserves credit.
Telling people to just go somewhere else to contribute is not good practice for XDA to continue to thrive.
I'm really sorry . I never meant to break a rule. he was asking if there was somewhere he could get more info on Windows Phone and I gave him the link to where there is nothing but info on Windows Phone. I was trying to be helful and meant nothing against this great forum.
Thanks so much for reminding me of the rule as I confess I never read that rule.
"don't freaking tell me to google it" is disrespectful on the face of it, in addition to bordering on an outright violation of the forum rules. We are *not* here to be your personal interface to publicly available information. You blew "Respect me and I'll respect you" with your very first post [EDIT: in this thread]; I don't know why you expected to be respected after insulting everybody who reads the forum with that (confrontational!) bit of childish petulance.
FYI, I'm about 75% sure I could get you banned for immature piece of ASCII "art" - the mods *might* just edit it out with a pointed message to you instead - but I haven't bothered reporting you *yet* simply because my skin is thick enough to put up with some random person on the Internet who has an entitlement complex; I see them every day. You just happened to win the lottery on which one I responded to on that particular day. You seem to be an otherwise decent person, aside from a thin skin and the aforementioned childishness. "Making fun of" indeed! Guess what: I made fun of President GW Bush for his absurd mispronunciations on national TV. Act the fool where people can see you and they'll treat you like one. But pointing out that you misspelled a 5-letter word deserved a "lol oops" response, at most. Grow up, kid.
windows phone 8.1 update 1 is online on Preview for developers !!!
build bumps to "14147"
Succesfully installed on my Lumia 1520, but many people reports error with installing. Error 8018830f, MS is to try find solution.
I received only 8.10.12400.899 today HTC 8s
441Excelsior said:
I received only 8.10.12400.899 today HTC 8s
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Because HTC needs some drivers from HTC for GDR1, so GDR1 is not for 8X and 8S now. U must wait...
Solved error 8018830F
Check for update 8.10.14147.180