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[Q] Getting the Xoom to support monitor mode (it runs BCM4329)

It looks like there are a variety of other devices that have the same chipset - I've perused around other threads where some people had some success doing it (samsung vibrant has the same wifi chipset). I was curious if this was on any of the devs radars at all - theres an entire community of pentesters and infosec folks twitching and biting their nails over the idea that one can run standard industry tools (like the aircrack suite) on this platform.
I've been able to install ubuntu on my xoom, however the kernel module for the chipset (bcm4329) doesn't currently support monitor mode.
Thoughts / ideas / advice?

I think this would be fun to have....
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I started a thread a couple of days ago wondering the same thing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983646
am interested as well!!

I work for the android development team at Broadcom and I didn't even know that the xoom used the bcm4329. That's interesting. Unfortunately, I can't really give you any information on your problem.

smaskell said:
I work for the android development team at Broadcom and I didn't even know that the xoom used the bcm4329. That's interesting. Unfortunately, I can't really give you any information on your problem.
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Think theres a chance it can be tweaked at the android level?

Moved. Please post in the correct section. Thank you.

If other phones that have the same chipset work in monitor mode, it should be possible to port the code over to the existing wireless module we have now.
That said, it will probably be a bit of work porting from the version of Android on the Captivate (2.1, 2.2?) to 3.0.

news
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892535
xoom have bcm4329, maybe it work.
who test ?

[Q] missing FM?

there is no fm radio in my x5 but every site says that x5 has built in fm radio . i had 2.2.1 on stock but changed 2 oxygen but couldn't find FM ???????

It doesn't have built in radio, the Pro does.
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I don't think that this is true.
There were rumors that U8800 has an fm chip but huawei didn't managed to get it work before the release of the product.
Before some time I contacted with the developer of spirit FM and after sending to him some logs he said that the device has a tavarua chip but he couldn't find too much infos about it. He didn't wantl to do much resourse for this because he didn't want to waste time for it, he haven't some clues that it could work and also he didn't own a U8800 himself.
So, I'm saying that there is a chance to have a hardware chip and the fm app of U8800 Pro to work.

Some could pull and share the fm app or the whole /system folder from pro version...

I don't think that just the app will help (in case the FM chip actually exists/works) It will also need kernel modules if it is the same chip and it is not disabled on our system. But my guess is that it will never work.

Who knows... There is a Pro version rom available, but cant find any way to extract the .app file, other than flashing...

The app from the pro won't work, the pro uses the FM from it's wifi chip (BCM4329) which is different to the regular u8800.

Really?
I though that the only diference in hardware between older and pro version was the CPU.
Have a different wifi chip too?

sanpsa said:
Some could pull and share the fm app or the whole /system folder from pro version...
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u8800 and u8800 pro uses DIFFERENT chips (wi-fi chip that has Bluetooth and fm)
Forget about X5 having FM. it will be easier to live

Since we already have good roms the next target should be to maximize what we can do with x5. If fm or tv out can be activated it would be a good thing.

Huawei iOS

hey!
Any one knows if you can put ios on huawei u8800?
Maybe manually?
The drivers are the biggest problem? right?
) cause ios would work betterr than android
dont tell me if i want ios i should buy iphone cause i already have one and its alot smoother than galaxy note 2 and i am asking if there is any way to put iOS on u8800?

mihec161 said:
hey!
Any one knows if you can put ios on huawei u8800?
Maybe manually?
The drivers are the biggest problem? right?
) cause ios would work betterr than android
dont tell me if i want ios i should buy iphone cause i already have one and its alot smoother than galaxy note 2 and i am asking if there is any way to put iOS on u8800?
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It would be easier to turn our phone into a space shuttle than to install ios in it.
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Lool indeed
If you want a cheap phone running smooth android its easy go to q&a and ask for better ROMs.
And please don't try to compare smoothness from a premium phone to an old phone
If like me you like android and need the latest flagship phone buy a nexus 4 like I did and so many others
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1 - iOS has a closed source
a) even tough it uses OSx's XNU base and GNU tools
2 - Our phone also has close sourced drivers
a) blefish is trying to open some of them but still gpu drivers are closed.
b) all drivers should be edited to work on iOS, can you install linux drivers on mac?
3 - iOS has a very different OS structure (even tough both are unix based)
a) and very different bootloader, very different partitioning, frightfully different than any other *nix.
4 - Our phone don't have sufficient dev support.
a) for example, nexus devices has enough dev support, did you saw anybody ports iOS?
b) it's not developing, it's passed on. This phone is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late phone. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If we haven't bought it , it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-phone.
5 - Go away and never look back, punk.
a) don't look away, don't turn your back, just run, run as fast as you can.
Enough?

Repeal said:
1 - iOS has a closed source
a) even tough it uses OSx's XNU base and GNU tools
2 - Our phone also has close sourced drivers
a) blefish is trying to open some of them but still gpu drivers are closed.
b) all drivers should be edited to work on iOS, can you install linux drivers on mac?
3 - iOS has a very different OS structure (even tough both are unix based)
a) and very different bootloader, very different partitioning, frightfully different than any other *nix.
4 - Our phone don't have sufficient dev support.
a) for example, nexus devices has enough dev support, did you saw anybody ports iOS?
b) it's not developing, it's passed on. This phone is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late phone. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If we haven't bought it , it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-phone.
5 - Go away and never look back, punk.
a) don't look away, don't turn your back, just run, run as fast as you can.
Enough?
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I'm about to cry just because of you

Repeal said:
b) it's not developing, it's passed on. This phone is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late phone. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If we haven't bought it , it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-phone.
Enough?
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Sheer brilliance!

No...
mihec161 said:
hey!
Any one knows if you can put ios on huawei u8800?
Maybe manually?
The drivers are the biggest problem? right?
) cause ios would work betterr than android
dont tell me if i want ios i should buy iphone cause i already have one and its alot smoother than galaxy note 2 and i am asking if there is any way to put iOS on u8800?
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iOS is is not open source. This is why there is no iOS on android smartphones yet. Unless someone would want to waste their time making it from scratch.
JoyOS is the only ROM that can be ported to android smartphones. There was one attempt of porting JoyOS to our phone, but it was not successful. The developer has become anonymous after everything that happened to him.

Is the OP retarded or trolling? I can't tell.

thanks to the OP.. u probably revived this dying forum..

chaoscreater said:
Is the OP retarded or trolling? I can't tell.
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Please don't insult people like that. Some people don't have enough knowledge. That's why they ask what they don't know.

the issue here is that the OP asked this (either stupid or provoking, more on the latter imho) question in this "Android Development" forum, quoting the controversial statement that "ios is better than android"..
what response would he/she expect to get? (actually i think our fellow users were too polite and serious in their responses..)
for me i would just recommend the OP to ask Steve Jobs in person for a better answer..

OP don't listen to these fools! It's so easy to get iOS on U8800, all you need to do is take the calibration and reset the zero moment point and the CPG. Then, connect the control module to quasi-cortex molecular ion pump. Rebuild neural linkage network. Update meta-motor cortex parameters. Restart feed-forward control. The last step is to transfer functions, and then just correct for Coriolis deviation... all done! No other device, ever, has had a iOS port, but surely we will be the first!

really a daaahhhhhh question.
We have Ideos X5 U8800 General + Ideos X5 U8800 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting sections but you decided to post here "development"....
WANT iOS BUY AN iPhone plain and simple!

faekplastik3s said:
OP don't listen to these fools! It's so easy to get iOS on U8800, all you need to do is take the calibration and reset the zero moment point and the CPG. Then, connect the control module to quasi-cortex molecular ion pump. Rebuild neural linkage network. Update meta-motor cortex parameters. Restart feed-forward control. The last step is to transfer functions, and then just correct for Coriolis deviation... all done! No other device, ever, has had a iOS port, but surely we will be the first!
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Exactly. OP, you must not forget the neural linkage network, because that's essential for gps to work. The rest, as you can see, is pretty straightforward. Good luck!
Sent from my Huawei U8800

fjsferreira said:
Exactly. OP, you must not forget the neural linkage network, because that's essential for gps to work. The rest, as you can see, is pretty straightforward. Good luck!
Sent from my Huawei U8800
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lolololol
You must be politician. For what I see from you in this forum lots of theory but nothing real to show for, that could at least show that your theory is something that could be trustworthy.

please ios rom good job
u8800 forum runner

Djuganight said:
lolololol
You must be politician. For what I see from you in this forum lots of theory but nothing real to show for, that could at least show that your theory is something that could be trustworthy.
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you mean Comedian surely? Coriolis deviation is nasa stuff. Please do take this thread with a smile :good: Point however was made clear: it's kind of rocketscience to port fully closed code from a totally different hardware platform to our phone.

Being this possible even better was port Windows phone OS :banghead:

faekplastik3s said:
OP don't listen to these fools! It's so easy to get iOS on U8800, all you need to do is take the calibration and reset the zero moment point and the CPG. Then, connect the control module to quasi-cortex molecular ion pump. Rebuild neural linkage network. Update meta-motor cortex parameters. Restart feed-forward control. The last step is to transfer functions, and then just correct for Coriolis deviation... all done! No other device, ever, has had a iOS port, but surely we will be the first!
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Lol. You forgot the flux capacitor - ALWAYS remember the flux capacitor!
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don't forget the proton particle and the foton reactor:silly:

true octa core.something seems is moving

Hi guys!
First it's many months i don't come here on xda.
Second i haven't this device
...but i playing with this SoC from 2 months in a developers board (Odroid-XU-E).As you,i can go at 1.8 Ghz with A15 and 640 Mhz max with gpu when i build kernels for it..No luck until now in enabling 8 cores...also if for you is a bit useless,being the SoC in a phone on battery(where my board instead is AC powered!)but i know there were a lot of drama about it months ago about the CCI-400 bug
...and something is moving.look here those diff\patches
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/1/264
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/1/259

Thanks buddy. but i think samsung unofficially announced about not to support all 8 cores functional At one time.
Also what abiut heating and Boooom problem? I means, It may blast our mobile if not supported fully?
Edit: Seen that samsung official working on it.
A Suggestion: Change the thread name to True octa core.
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Any pros to enlighten me what this actually means? Will this patch actually work?
Does it utilize the CCI400(which was believed to be broken) or other approach?
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sert00 said:
Hi guys!
First it's many months i don't come here on xda.
Second i haven't this device
...but i playing with this SoC from 2 months in a developers board (Odroid-XU-E).As you,i can go at 1.8 Ghz with A15 and 640 Mhz max with gpu when i build kernels for it..No luck until now in enabling 8 cores...also if for you is a bit useless,being the SoC in a phone on battery(where my board instead is AC powered!)but i know there were a lot of drama about it months ago about the CCI-400 bug
...and something is moving.look here those diff\patches
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/1/264
https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/10/1/259
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a word from @AndreiLux to make things clear..
thanks !

Will this patch actually work?
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For us, basically no. These patches are for device-tree based kernels which our platform specific one isn't.
For the ODROID-XU / eventual theoretical DT based i9500 kernel it might be a possibility.
I see there's some non-standard alterations to the CCI driver related to the coherency ports, but they didn't even answer in the mailing list as to why they are there.

gdonanthony said:
a word from @AndreiLux to make things clear..
thanks !
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i m also waiting for him. Posted the link in Previous thread of @AndreiLux buddy.
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AndreiLux said:
For us, basically no. These patches are for device-tree based kernels which is not part of ours.
For the ODROID-XU / eventual theoretical DT based i9500 kernel it might be a possibility.
I see there's some non-standard alterations to the CCI driver related to the coherency ports, but they didn't even answer in the mailing list as to why they are there.
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@sert00 so here is the answer ... damn so sad about this things going on... and im hoping somethings will get better soon
thanks AndreiLux

AndreiLux said:
For us, basically no. These patches are for device-tree based kernels which our platform specific one isn't.
For the ODROID-XU / eventual theoretical DT based i9500 kernel it might be a possibility.
I see there's some non-standard alterations to the CCI driver related to the coherency ports, but they didn't even answer in the mailing list as to why they are there.
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Does that mean it's a hardware level possibility, and just need to be implemented by clever brains?
They mentioned it was tested on 5410 dev board, dunno what that actually means..
Also regarding DT kernel, if I'm not wrong Linux is now forcing devs to switch to DT? So do you foresee any future for i9500 to actually have a DT kernel?
Forgive me if I was talking nonsense, I'm quite noob.
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lch920619x said:
Does that mean it's a hardware level possibility, and just need to be implemented by clever brains?
They mentioned it was tested on 5410 dev board, dunno what that actually means..
Also regarding DT kernel, if I'm not wrong Linux is now forcing devs to switch to DT? So do you foresee any future for i9500 to actually have a DT kernel?
Forgive me if I was talking nonsense, I'm quite noob.
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I doubt Samsung will ever switch the current generation to a DT model much like they never update older phone's kernels, but backport the needed bits. They're talking about the SMDK board which are LSI internal development boards. It is a STUPID amount of effort to switch over to a DT kernel, any hope is that some third-party gets some kind of update on the matter and be able to pull from that. Even the XU has only some half-hearted DT support and they work mostly on the platform kernel which is similar to ours.
Alternatively I could just pull the relevant MCPM backend and that new EDCS from the patch and try to get hack something together. But I would want to at least those patches to be actually accepted into mainline and have the 5410 supported there before one begins on an adventure into unknown territory.

AndreiLux said:
I doubt Samsung will ever switch the current generation to a DT model much like they never update older phone's kernels, but backport the needed bits. They're talking about the SMDK board which are LSI internal development boards. It is a STUPID amount of effort to switch over to a DT kernel, any hope is that some third-party gets some kind of update on the matter and be able to pull from that. Even the XU has only some half-hearted DT support and they work mostly on the platform kernel which is similar to ours.
Alternatively I could just pull the relevant MCPM backend and that new EDCS from the patch and try to get hack something together. But I would want to at least those patches to be actually accepted into mainline and have the 5410 supported there before one begins on an adventure into unknown territory.
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I have to admit i got some difficulties understanding part of your post.
However I think I grasp the main idea and I'm looking forward to seeing how things will work once you try to implement the patch. Thanks for your effort.
BTW I'm using Chinese C version ROM(ZCUCMH1 to be specific), if I flash perseus ontop of my ROM, camera will refuse to open and report camera failure.
Not asking you to solve it but just curious if you can tell me what will possibily cause this?
Also if you have time can you point out what exactly is stopping us from having a fully functional AOSP build?
We got full kernel source code due to GPL, don't we?
And in another post you said it's nothing to do with documentation.
So what is it?
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thanks for the answer andreilux!i posted it only as a info.also on odroid board will be ready only when mainlined on 3.13 kernel,as sad by a linux developer,and there's tons of works to do to others stuffs to works!

Omni Rom For MTK Devices

Many rom projects like Cyanogen mod, Paranoid droid rom and many others were released only for renowned company phones like Galaxy Series, Nexus series etc etc, where as millions & billions of MTK soc phones that contribute alot to the daily millions of Android activations are left out. Many MTK phones developers started request threads for cyanogen mod and other rom communities to build/release a rom for MTK phones but those request were neglected till date.
Now with the start of new rom project "Omni", MTK phone devs are hoping that this rom will also be compiled & released for MTK phones. We want Omni pioneers to release this rom for millions & billions of MTK phones.
We are willing to help you guys making Omni rom project better & grow.
Regards

Wouldn't have it been easier to read some posts in the forum?

This will happen. When you're able to watch the presentation video (which will be up in the next few days) you'll notice that @XpLoDWilD shows Omni running on the Oppo R819, a quad-core MTK device.

jerdog said:
This will happen. When you're able to watch the presentation video (which will be up in the next few days) you'll notice that @XpLoDWilD shows Omni running on the Oppo R819, a quad-core MTK device.
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There are a lot of things in the way. Also, any MTK devices that ship without kernel sources (there are a lot of them) are still out of luck.
The R819 is a game changer here - Oppo really wants it to receive community firmware support and has been EXTREMELY cooperative with us in terms of getting us documentation.

Entropy512 said:
The R819 is a game changer here - Oppo really wants it to receive community firmware support and has been EXTREMELY cooperative with us in terms of getting us documentation.
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So they are giving you access to the MTK framework sources? Or do you have to reimplement the dual sim support (I have never seen any open source ROM with dual sim support)? I'd really love to help a bit, having some MTK6577 phones lying around here.

I too have two MTK phones .....they are a powerful if it got development projects like this ...it will be the no.1 vendor in chip set marketing and ...I support for OMNI PROJECT
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C-o-M said:
So they are giving you access to the MTK framework sources? Or do you have to reimplement the dual sim support (I have never seen any open source ROM with dual sim support)? I'd really love to help a bit, having some MTK6577 phones lying around here.
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I'm not sure about the state of dsim support. We do have access to quite a bit, however some items even the OEM we're working with doesn't have access to source for, and it's also a nasty licensing minefield.
There's much better potential than there has been previously, however there are still some nasty technical and legal challenges. For example, MTK's 4.2 firmware appears to be using all sorts of hwcomposer backcompat hacks to use what is effectively a 4.0 (ICS) HWC.

Entropy512 said:
I'm not sure about the state of dsim support. We do have access to quite a bit, however some items even the OEM we're working with doesn't have access to source for, and it's also a nasty licensing minefield.
There's much better potential than there has been previously, however there are still some nasty technical and legal challenges. For example, MTK's 4.2 firmware appears to be using all sorts of hwcomposer backcompat hacks to use what is effectively a 4.0 (ICS) HWC.
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With this I assume device will not receive 4.4 barely 4.3 but can I ask how is to work with OEM?
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XperianPro said:
With this I assume device will not receive 4.4 barely 4.3 but can I ask how is to work with OEM?
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Nobody can predict what happens in the future.
In terms of working with OEMs, not sure what your question is, but one thing we do bring to the table with Omni is considerable experience in working with OEMs. And that should be rather beneficial for everyone

Will you be allowed to release all sources needed to build the ROM?

There are sources for various MTK devices (MT6577/MT6575) that can be used already. I assume it would be no problem for the omni team to integrate them into their builds.

darkguy2008 said:
There are sources for various MTK devices (MT6577/MT6575) that can be used already. I assume it would be no problem for the omni team to integrate them into their builds.
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We have more recent ones that are being used to bring up MTK devices.
At the BBQ, Xplod demonstrated an Oppo r819 running Omni, which is an MT6589

pulser_g2 said:
We have more recent ones that are being used to bring up MTK devices.
At the BBQ, Xplod demonstrated an Oppo r819 running Omni, which is an MT6589
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So with this you mean that those sources work for MT6577 devices?

I wish you guys the best of luck, but conserning MTK and their closed sources policy, i really don't believe those sources (and im talking about the framework /RIL) will be Open Source.
If we are lucky enought we may get some working builds for some of the phones (if an brand gives you support), but concerning the MTK licenses, well its an MINE FIELD.
An good example is the on-going Cyanogen project by FAEA for the F2S (MT6589), they got the green light from MTK, BUT the project will remain Closed Source, so no one will get those sources...
B.Regards

superdragonpt said:
An good example is the on-going Cyanogen project by FAEA for the F2S (MT6589), they got the green light from MTK, BUT the project will remain Closed Source, so no one will get those sources...
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AFAIK, you are wrong:
chasepoes said:
Well I know of one dev. who is develloping CM port voor MTK658x devices (usinf Faea mobile). For now he has to operate under a NDA agreement, but once finished his source will be come available.
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So with this you mean that those sources work for MT6577 devices?
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Unknown. And as I've said, it's a licensing nightmare.
It may be that certain components will have to be developed in a "some people have the source but can only release blobs" - I would prefer to avoid this if at all possible. The issue is if any of those "files with nasty license" are in things that can't be cleanly separated, it will present a MAJOR issue.

Entropy512 said:
Unknown. And as I've said, it's a licensing nightmare.
It may be that certain components will have to be developed in a "some people have the source but can only release blobs" - I would prefer to avoid this if at all possible. The issue is if any of those "files with nasty license" are in things that can't be cleanly separated, it will present a MAJOR issue.
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Well I assume something like the HTC Magic or the Defy can be done. They don't have the sources for the hardware GPU but they managed to enable hardware compositing after some work somehow. I don't think that MTK will oppose to the project using the libs and such instead of having full access to the code, usually that feels less restrictive for both the company and the devs, imho.
I may be talking rubbish though, I'd just like the MT6577 devices to get some lovin', because we've been fighting for quite some time against ZTE for them to release the kernel sources so we can develop ROMs for the V970M and more =/

darkguy2008 said:
Well I assume something like the HTC Magic or the Defy can be done. They don't have the sources for the hardware GPU but they managed to enable hardware compositing after some work somehow. I don't think that MTK will oppose to the project using the libs and such instead of having full access to the code, usually that feels less restrictive for both the company and the devs, imho.
I may be talking rubbish though, I'd just like the MT6577 devices to get some lovin', because we've been fighting for quite some time against ZTE for them to release the kernel sources so we can develop ROMs for the V970M and more =/
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ZTE,I dont know much about this company but its worse than Sony I think...
Why not release kernel sources,what are developers doing at their company...

XperianPro said:
ZTE,I dont know much about this company but its worse than Sony I think...
Why not release kernel sources,what are developers doing at their company...
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Pretty much most Chinese companies are like this. Oppo is VERY non-typical of a Chinese company, which is why they have a FAR better chance of global success than any other Chinese mobile OEM right now.

Entropy512 said:
Pretty much most Chinese companies are like this. Oppo is VERY non-typical of a Chinese company, which is why they have a FAR better chance of global success than any other Chinese mobile OEM right now.
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How very true. I have high hopes for this project as my current device is an OPPO R819. I chose OPPO because exactly they try to be open with the developers, having the experience of Motorola and their locked bootloaders the past years while the Motorola DEFY was my main device. It took a long time for the DEFY to get its first custom kernel and it only happened thanks to some very persistent people. It shouldn't be like this, so as long I have a choice I'll opt for unlocked (and cheap...) devices.
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