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[Q] X8 Multitouch?

Hello!
My question is simple: How can I get Multitouch feature on my X8?

The Answer is simple, too: You can't get it.

The hardware supports it (IIRC). Sony just needs to update the software to support it.

Thanks, I hope they will do this quickly!
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Well, they appear to be doing it to the X10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777415
Hopefully they will bring this to the X8.

Acc3ss said:
The Answer is simple, too: You can't get it.
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You are wrong, as X10 will get it, X8 will get it too,as the the screens are alike.

With 1.6 und 2.1 there is NO Multitouch support.

AlfredENeumann said:
With 1.6 und 2.1 there is NO Multitouch support.
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So we will get 2.2

Bul....it you are talking...htc wildfire has android 2.1 and has a multi touch so you are not right my frend..

zabtcent said:
Bul....it you are talking...htc wildfire has android 2.1 and has a multi touch so you are not right my frend..
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Disastery said:
You are wrong, as X10 will get it, X8 will get it too,as the the screens are alike.
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Because of this, sony could bring an update out at any moment to allow multi-touch.

Think main question is whether or not SE choose to keep the x10 "more exclusive" by not enabling double-touch on the x8.
On the x10 minis, you can hardly fit 2 fingers on the screen anyways

You could be right. But the X10 is nothing fantastic anyway, I don't see what they have to loose by enabling multi-touch on the X8.

zabtcent said:
Bul....it you are talking...htc wildfire has android 2.1 and has a multi touch so you are not right my frend..
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But the question is, does HTC Wildfire have the exact same touch display as X8? Because that's what important, not the android version.

Even dual-touch will be good enough for me, so it depends on SE when they will release the update...
Damnit.
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erak said:
But the question is, does HTC Wildfire have the exact same touch display as X8? Because that's what important, not the android version.
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I've heard that both x8 and x10 have "only one layer of the capacitor screen, so multitouch can't be real for them", but I don't know if that's true. I hope not.
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romcio47 said:
I've heard that both x8 and x10 have "only one layer of the capacitor screen, so multitouch can't be real for them", but I don't know if that's true. I hope not.
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Guess what, we-ve got semi-pinchzoom now :>

We should open the x8 to see the chip, and compare it to the WildFire's chip.
I think that they will be the same more or less.
ByTheWay Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is an older phone than the x8.
Sony Ercisson is a capitalistic pig.
Well Xperia Arc or so called x12 has dualtouch only.
I'll go for the Desire HD, Galaxy S or Iphone 4 rather than the Xperia Arc.
Well if they decide to enable multitouch to the Xperia x8- win on both sides.
ROFLCopter.

pandza94 said:
We should open the x8 to see the chip, and compare it to the WildFire's chip.
I think that they will be the same more or less.
ByTheWay Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is an older phone than the x8.
Sony Ercisson is a capitalistic pig.
Well Xperia Arc or so called x12 has dualtouch only.
I'll go for the Desire HD, Galaxy S or Iphone 4 rather than the Xperia Arc.
Well if they decide to enable multitouch to the Xperia x8- win on both sides.
ROFLCopter.
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Multi- or dual-touch depends on touch digitizers, not chip. There's someone working on a kernel module that can enable a limited verion of pinch-to-zoom.
None of the makers of smartphones are in it for the goodwill. They're all capitalist organisations out there to make money for their shareholders. To say that x10 is older than x8 will be to compare a jaguar from 2 years back with a new ford fiesta of today.

Go to Custom Kernel in Development Section, there, we talk about custom kernel with Multi/Dual Touch

That can't be possible there are already multitouch kernels out there for the x10 but im not sure about the x8 il look it up for u
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xperia x8 is a perfect n best device

we hava n type wifi
we hv pinch zoom capable touch
we hv quality sound
we hv fine camera
we hv perfect design adn size
we hv awesome phone... with all features
we cn compare our phone with iphone 3g... even 3gs
we just need more multitouch feature on out phone.... i know it will fix sooon
we have minicm, elinux, module man, nobodyatall and other developer thnx for great support u r our se support

Hehe thx is well
Wysłano z mojej X8 z użyciem Tapatalk

Actually the module man stopped working on his dt module which is sad i see nobody else who is willing to take such quest on his shoulders.....
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ithunter said:
we hv fine camera
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O rly?...

yes camera is fine

ithunter said:
yes camera is fine
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i don`t think so, but x8 is the best phone for it`s price

I think too.
Just official 2.2 or 2.3 is missing.

i dont neeed offcial cuz we hv final version 2.2....... if se plan to update they should update 2.3

Yes no need for official 2.2 we already got mini cm 2.2 which is perfect
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I tell this because custom doesn't work with my device but I don't know why.

ithunter said:
we hava n type wifi
we hv pinch zoom capable touch
we hv quality sound
we hv fine camera
we hv perfect design adn size
we hv awesome phone... with all features
we cn compare our phone with iphone 3g... even 3gs
we just need more multitouch feature on out phone.... i know it will fix sooon
we have minicm, elinux, module man, nobodyatall and other developer thnx for great support u r our se support
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X8 hardware only supports one touch, so dual/multi touch is impossible but the rest your right

yes
x8 is good fast phone..

treebill said:
X8 hardware only supports one touch, so dual/multi touch is impossible but the rest your right
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Please don't make a statement what is not fully true!
Only Synaptics X8 is NOT MT capable, but the ones that came with Cypress chip inside are MT capable ("up to 32 touch")! Please read before you write something. Thanks.

yes a perfect phone

Asycid said:
Please don't make a statement what is not fully true!
Only Synaptics X8 is NOT MT capable, but the ones that came with Cypress chip inside are MT capable ("up to 32 touch")! Please read before you write something. Thanks.
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Not quite. X8 doesn't have the same cypress chip as Arc, so cypress is not 32 point MT capable. However, it might be, that it will be easier to create real MT for cypress than it is for synaptic.
And as for the camera... you can hardly find any other phone within this price range that has a camera without autofocus, and X8 has none

Graveir said:
Not quite. X8 doesn't have the same cypress chip as Arc, so cypress is not 32 point MT capable. However, it might be, that it will be easier to create real MT for cypress than it is for synaptic.
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Two forumers have disassembled their phone, and they said it has "cy8ctma340" chip (one of them made a photo that is clearly says it's true). Check Cypress' homepage, and you'll be brightened
OOpps, sorry, it it only capable of 32 max sensor inputs, with a maximum of 4 thumbs!
LINK

Asycid said:
Two forumers have disassembled their phone, and they said it has "cy8ctma340" chip (one of them made a photo that is clearly says it's true). Check Cypress' homepage, and you'll be brightened
OOpps, sorry, it it only capable of 32 max sensor inputs, with a maximum of 4 thumbs!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073688
blagus open his phone and the chip inside is the clearpad 1000.
http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
the PDF states.
"The ClearPad 1000 provides SingleTouch
interaction and gestures for mid-range and mass-market
devices."

treebill said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073688
blagus open his phone and the chip inside is the clearpad 1000.
http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
the PDF states.
"The ClearPad 1000 provides SingleTouch
interaction and gestures for mid-range and mass-market
devices."
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One more time, but this will be the last one, because I'm getting tired of this:
X8 has two types of digitizer:
One is the Synaptics (phones wich produced before April has got these), and one is the Cypress type (phones produced AFTER March). So, I'm talking obut the cypress. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, I read a lot and searched a lot about this!

Asycid said:
One more time, but this will be the last one, because I'm getting tired of this:
X8 has two types of digitizer:
One is the Synaptics (phones wich produced before April has got these), and one is the Cypress type (phones produced AFTER March). So, I'm talking obut the cypress. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, I read a lot and searched a lot about this!
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I never doubted for a second you know what your talking about nor did I suggest other wise, I'm guessing most people have the old type and i know doixanh and blagus have the old type (from there posts), so assuming a good few dev's have the old type that is going slow down development for your multi/dual touch.
It does however, seem strange that SE would change the hardware.

treebill said:
I never doubted for a second you know what your talking about nor did I suggest other wise, I'm guessing most people have the old type and i know doixanh and blagus have the old type (from there posts), so assuming a good few dev's have the old type that is going slow down development for your multi/dual touch.
It does however, seem strange that SE would change the hardware.
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Yeah, I know it. Don't tell me
Sure, I haven't believed my eyes too when I saw the photo of the cypress chip. But it's clear for me now why SE put this type of digitizer in the newer X8s (BTW they've changed the screen too, not just the digitizer, _I_think_. It have more contrast ), and I explained it in an other thread, but I forgot in which.
Oh, and sorry about I was so harsh!

Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Gingerbread Update Might Deliver Multi-touch and Mor

Just read on a blog that Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Gingerbread Update Might Deliver Multi-touch and More.How far can this be true ?
Source: http://www.kashtech.info/2011/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread.html

Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Lol
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

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Lion3494 said:
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Dumb axx
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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No need for foul languege........ but your right
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Might is a very tame word. Considering the device does not have the ability to handle anything more than dual touch, this is interesting news.

it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...

Chumby_666 said:
it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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Are you crazy? It will deliver 1440x900 resolution, 1080p recording at 60fps, 8mp cap lifted to 16.1mp, fps cap lifted to 58fps including 3D with some accents of time/mediapain.

Well, this was originally posted in brazilian Sony Ericsson official Blog, so I think we could give it a shot. A lot of people said X10 wouldn't support even dual touch, and now we have it. Maybe Sony Ericsson found a way to fix it, despite the hardware limitation, bypassing, I don't know. If SE said multitouch will come with the 2.3 update, I guess I will wait hopefully for that.
The source is in portuguese and I'm too lazy to translate it now, but you guys can believe what I'm saying or use a translator .

2.3 also brings: Full HD screen resolution, native .exe execution, CoD Black Ops pre-installed, slide out joypad like on Xperia Play, and Airplane mode finally turns phone into airplane of your choice, just like we all expected when seen it for the first time...
Also, don't forget about kexec exploit fix == stuck on SE's FW... But with all these functions, why would you want to switch to another ROM??? Enjoy

lol hahaha... iam so excited about the new GB update coming soon...

Read somewhere that the official.update will be released.at the end of July.
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KInG GaME said:
Z dual core in x10! or are you just joking
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Nope. He hacked the CPU power to route it through a Galaxy S2

Pshhh dual core is sooo the day before, talk to me when you have 8 cores implemented

You need Galaxy S II, then with simple CPU reroute process via Wi-Fi, BT, J-Tag, USB and a few more solder points you connect X10 to Galaxy's CPU.
Then you take super glue, and stick the phones together. zdzihu will publish the pictures soon
It was easy, and during the process RSA key was found - it was a nice surprise to find all root, red and brown keys under the CPU on a piece of paper, hand-written with signature of SE's CEO

zdzihu said:
Sorry to say but SE won't be able to deliver this... the only person who could has already left XDA
Sent from my X10 having 50% dual core implemented
Cheers,
z
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Haha lol, I didn't expect you to reply but it was sarcastic meant For if you didn't get it XD
Btw, nice I've got also 50% of Dual Core power in my phone !

OmegaRED^ said:
Are you serious. then it's true the only dev that ever got that far has been banned.
Oddly right after the arc rom with that very feature showed up the trolling started.
Ironic?
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Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe

riginal said:
Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
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Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...

PlayGunsta said:
Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
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Well good for you because I don't use his roms

riginal said:
Well good for you because I don't use his roms
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You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.

PlayGunsta said:
You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
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Well I like MIUI too, I switched from one of trip's earlier versions I think it was 1.0.4 to Cobrato's MIUI & couldn't be happier, everything works as it should

4 finger touch for X8 or 2?

Industry sources, X8 has 4 finger touch,so far,there is only 2 touch.why?

Just wait, I think somebody will someday create real 4-finger touch for Cypress, those who have Synaptics will never get more than fake dualtouch.

Thank you Cod,X8 is more powerul than other phones!!!

codfreak said:
Just wait, I think somebody will someday create real 4-finger touch for Cypress, those who have Synaptics will never get more than fake dualtouch.
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We, the "unlucky" ones with Synaptics, have all the chanches to get real DT. Why? Because the digitizer suports real DT (just check datasheets), it's only a problem of firmware/drivers.

Sob...I have synaptics ..
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Kurinkita said:
We, the "unlucky" ones with Synaptics, have all the chanches to get real DT. Why? Because the digitizer suports real DT (just check datasheets), it's only a problem of firmware/drivers.
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I don't think so,cause the bottleneck of synaptics can't handle real DT is not support hardware,not just firmware or drivers.

langslove said:
I don't think so,cause the bottleneck of synaptics can't handle real DT is not support hardware,not just firmware or drivers.
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Nope it supports dual touch in a way as it is a clearpad 2000 as stated by the official synpatics technical support agent.....
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It's officialy stated that the Clearpad 2000 suports DT via hardware. The problem is that on some digitizers, it's locked via the firmware. That's why I said is a problem of firmware. The possible solution here is to rewrite the firmware, but I guess a development board is needed for that. Without some official sources by Synaptics about firmware, I can't precisly state how to play with firmwares.

I think 2 finger touch enough, but 4 will be nice

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It's officialy stated that the Clearpad 2000 suports DT via hardware. The problem is that on some digitizers, it's locked via the firmware. That's why I said is a problem of firmware. The possible solution here is to rewrite the firmware, but I guess a development board is needed for that. Without some official sources by Synaptics about firmware, I can't precisly state how to play with firmwares.
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Not bad,maybe the real DTouch of synaptics will come ture, but.you'll have pay through the nose to get it and there was no support by the official of synaptics,

Skyler1 said:
I think 2 finger touch enough, but 4 will be nice
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Are you an easily satisfied man? 2 touch should take care of all your daily works,but we play more games at least need 3 finger touch,（such The king of fighters,street fighters)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135965
Availability
The CY8CTMA340-XXX-03 (two-finger support) and CY8CTMA340-XXX-11 (four-finger support) device families are both available today from Cypress. Qualified customers can contact Cypress for more information and to obtain samples.
So everything depends which version of chip is in our X8.
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guys really dual touch is just enough 4 touch points is such an over kill on a 3'' display !
synaptics users are dreaming of getting a "buggy" version of what you already got , so be thankful !

I've Synaptics...u.u bad luck

skyboyextreme said:
guys really dual touch is just enough 4 touch points is such an over kill on a 3'' display !
synaptics users are dreaming of getting a "buggy" version of what you already got , so be thankful !
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We are extremely thankful but it is always good to push yourself and push your liimits if i could code properly i would definitely try it just to challenge myself

Why did devs let dualtouch synptcs down ?

***WHY???***

they left DT, because, the results from their test, has been very successfull, if you want a "better" option, come'on! ther are a lot of guides, and repositorys free of charhe, for you to learn and to try making a better option. Nobody has born knowing everything. But we have very good Devs and they do as much as they can and they want.

abaz123 said:
***WHY???***
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because SE has crippled the synaptics chip, if you want to have DT on synaptics digitizer you need to edit firmware in this chip but there is no way how to read it from the chip and synaptics won't give us the firmware so we won't have DT. if you want it, go and buy another phone

Mmhh....ookay -_-'
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fifo171 said:
because SE has crippled the synaptics chip, if you want to have DT on synaptics digitizer you need to edit firmware in this chip but there is no way how to read it from the chip and synaptics won't give us the firmware so we won't have DT. if you want it, go and buy another phone
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DT - referred to multitouch? is it

Kirmada : yes it is
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DT - Dual Touch, MT - Multi Touch
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