Hello!
My question is simple: How can I get Multitouch feature on my X8?
The Answer is simple, too: You can't get it.
The hardware supports it (IIRC). Sony just needs to update the software to support it.
Thanks, I hope they will do this quickly!
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Well, they appear to be doing it to the X10: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777415
Hopefully they will bring this to the X8.
Acc3ss said:
The Answer is simple, too: You can't get it.
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You are wrong, as X10 will get it, X8 will get it too,as the the screens are alike.
With 1.6 und 2.1 there is NO Multitouch support.
AlfredENeumann said:
With 1.6 und 2.1 there is NO Multitouch support.
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So we will get 2.2
Bul....it you are talking...htc wildfire has android 2.1 and has a multi touch so you are not right my frend..
zabtcent said:
Bul....it you are talking...htc wildfire has android 2.1 and has a multi touch so you are not right my frend..
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Disastery said:
You are wrong, as X10 will get it, X8 will get it too,as the the screens are alike.
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Because of this, sony could bring an update out at any moment to allow multi-touch.
Think main question is whether or not SE choose to keep the x10 "more exclusive" by not enabling double-touch on the x8.
On the x10 minis, you can hardly fit 2 fingers on the screen anyways
You could be right. But the X10 is nothing fantastic anyway, I don't see what they have to loose by enabling multi-touch on the X8.
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Bul....it you are talking...htc wildfire has android 2.1 and has a multi touch so you are not right my frend..
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But the question is, does HTC Wildfire have the exact same touch display as X8? Because that's what important, not the android version.
Even dual-touch will be good enough for me, so it depends on SE when they will release the update...
Damnit.
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erak said:
But the question is, does HTC Wildfire have the exact same touch display as X8? Because that's what important, not the android version.
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I've heard that both x8 and x10 have "only one layer of the capacitor screen, so multitouch can't be real for them", but I don't know if that's true. I hope not.
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romcio47 said:
I've heard that both x8 and x10 have "only one layer of the capacitor screen, so multitouch can't be real for them", but I don't know if that's true. I hope not.
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Guess what, we-ve got semi-pinchzoom now :>
We should open the x8 to see the chip, and compare it to the WildFire's chip.
I think that they will be the same more or less.
ByTheWay Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is an older phone than the x8.
Sony Ercisson is a capitalistic pig.
Well Xperia Arc or so called x12 has dualtouch only.
I'll go for the Desire HD, Galaxy S or Iphone 4 rather than the Xperia Arc.
Well if they decide to enable multitouch to the Xperia x8- win on both sides.
ROFLCopter.
pandza94 said:
We should open the x8 to see the chip, and compare it to the WildFire's chip.
I think that they will be the same more or less.
ByTheWay Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is an older phone than the x8.
Sony Ercisson is a capitalistic pig.
Well Xperia Arc or so called x12 has dualtouch only.
I'll go for the Desire HD, Galaxy S or Iphone 4 rather than the Xperia Arc.
Well if they decide to enable multitouch to the Xperia x8- win on both sides.
ROFLCopter.
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Multi- or dual-touch depends on touch digitizers, not chip. There's someone working on a kernel module that can enable a limited verion of pinch-to-zoom.
None of the makers of smartphones are in it for the goodwill. They're all capitalist organisations out there to make money for their shareholders. To say that x10 is older than x8 will be to compare a jaguar from 2 years back with a new ford fiesta of today.
Go to Custom Kernel in Development Section, there, we talk about custom kernel with Multi/Dual Touch
That can't be possible there are already multitouch kernels out there for the x10 but im not sure about the x8 il look it up for u
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Anyone knows if x8 can support multitouch. Is it hardware limitation or just software stupidity of SE?
While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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If thats right,ppl can make it multitouch
I wish that will happen
Look here:
www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=199987
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
Can someone try this.
Please.
karun11 said:
Look here:
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907736
similar :/
Does the X8 digitizer support multi touch?
Yes, it does.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
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yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
Tehouster said:
yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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nice job.
but I can always put the original firmware from 2.2 OS or 2.3
Yes, we also can do it. But it won't work.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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Excuse me for being upfront, but you'll have to change your slogan in that mini "campaign"
The whole intention of them not updating software is most likely to just force you to buy new versions of mobile phones you already have ( x10 -> arc, x8 -> some new phone that'll come in 2011 ).
So it's all the same for them if you stick to your x8 for example, as the only thing they're attempting to do here is to force you to buy a new mobile phone - if you don't succumb to it, they don't give a flying **** cause you'll be stuck on a outdated, non-updating platform, and it's in your best interest to get off it if you're at least a bit of a tech savvy individual.
Also, people who stick with Sony Ericsson brand since their first phone ( such as myself, from old Ericsson t20e 'till newest x8 ), is their main market. No matter how bad service is, I won't change my mobile phone brand, as it's something I've gotten used to ever since I was 8 ( 13 years later, still using the same brand ), and same goes for many many users out there who don't need tech stuff like most of us here on xda want.
At least that's my point of view on it.
Sad really, but heh :\ Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread, and I signed up on facebook for the 2.2 support.
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
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if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
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possible dude but only the employer know it yet :S
@refract : I dont know.I think I will never buy a SE again if they dont publish new updates like 2.2+ for SE X8 because for exp : If I buy a new SE mobile next year,maybe will there again no updates for it -.-
Next phones will have better updates schedule.
-X8 z Tapatalk-
Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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use search amit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811457
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Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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after rooting x8, do we have available ROMs here?
we hava n type wifi
we hv pinch zoom capable touch
we hv quality sound
we hv fine camera
we hv perfect design adn size
we hv awesome phone... with all features
we cn compare our phone with iphone 3g... even 3gs
we just need more multitouch feature on out phone.... i know it will fix sooon
we have minicm, elinux, module man, nobodyatall and other developer thnx for great support u r our se support
Hehe thx is well
Wysłano z mojej X8 z użyciem Tapatalk
Actually the module man stopped working on his dt module which is sad i see nobody else who is willing to take such quest on his shoulders.....
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ithunter said:
we hv fine camera
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O rly?...
yes camera is fine
ithunter said:
yes camera is fine
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i don`t think so, but x8 is the best phone for it`s price
I think too.
Just official 2.2 or 2.3 is missing.
i dont neeed offcial cuz we hv final version 2.2....... if se plan to update they should update 2.3
Yes no need for official 2.2 we already got mini cm 2.2 which is perfect
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I tell this because custom doesn't work with my device but I don't know why.
ithunter said:
we hava n type wifi
we hv pinch zoom capable touch
we hv quality sound
we hv fine camera
we hv perfect design adn size
we hv awesome phone... with all features
we cn compare our phone with iphone 3g... even 3gs
we just need more multitouch feature on out phone.... i know it will fix sooon
we have minicm, elinux, module man, nobodyatall and other developer thnx for great support u r our se support
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X8 hardware only supports one touch, so dual/multi touch is impossible but the rest your right
yes
x8 is good fast phone..
treebill said:
X8 hardware only supports one touch, so dual/multi touch is impossible but the rest your right
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Please don't make a statement what is not fully true!
Only Synaptics X8 is NOT MT capable, but the ones that came with Cypress chip inside are MT capable ("up to 32 touch")! Please read before you write something. Thanks.
yes a perfect phone
Asycid said:
Please don't make a statement what is not fully true!
Only Synaptics X8 is NOT MT capable, but the ones that came with Cypress chip inside are MT capable ("up to 32 touch")! Please read before you write something. Thanks.
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Not quite. X8 doesn't have the same cypress chip as Arc, so cypress is not 32 point MT capable. However, it might be, that it will be easier to create real MT for cypress than it is for synaptic.
And as for the camera... you can hardly find any other phone within this price range that has a camera without autofocus, and X8 has none
Graveir said:
Not quite. X8 doesn't have the same cypress chip as Arc, so cypress is not 32 point MT capable. However, it might be, that it will be easier to create real MT for cypress than it is for synaptic.
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Two forumers have disassembled their phone, and they said it has "cy8ctma340" chip (one of them made a photo that is clearly says it's true). Check Cypress' homepage, and you'll be brightened
OOpps, sorry, it it only capable of 32 max sensor inputs, with a maximum of 4 thumbs!
LINK
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Two forumers have disassembled their phone, and they said it has "cy8ctma340" chip (one of them made a photo that is clearly says it's true). Check Cypress' homepage, and you'll be brightened
OOpps, sorry, it it only capable of 32 max sensor inputs, with a maximum of 4 thumbs!
LINK
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073688
blagus open his phone and the chip inside is the clearpad 1000.
http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
the PDF states.
"The ClearPad 1000 provides SingleTouch
interaction and gestures for mid-range and mass-market
devices."
treebill said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073688
blagus open his phone and the chip inside is the clearpad 1000.
http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
the PDF states.
"The ClearPad 1000 provides SingleTouch
interaction and gestures for mid-range and mass-market
devices."
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One more time, but this will be the last one, because I'm getting tired of this:
X8 has two types of digitizer:
One is the Synaptics (phones wich produced before April has got these), and one is the Cypress type (phones produced AFTER March). So, I'm talking obut the cypress. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, I read a lot and searched a lot about this!
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One more time, but this will be the last one, because I'm getting tired of this:
X8 has two types of digitizer:
One is the Synaptics (phones wich produced before April has got these), and one is the Cypress type (phones produced AFTER March). So, I'm talking obut the cypress. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, I read a lot and searched a lot about this!
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I never doubted for a second you know what your talking about nor did I suggest other wise, I'm guessing most people have the old type and i know doixanh and blagus have the old type (from there posts), so assuming a good few dev's have the old type that is going slow down development for your multi/dual touch.
It does however, seem strange that SE would change the hardware.
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I never doubted for a second you know what your talking about nor did I suggest other wise, I'm guessing most people have the old type and i know doixanh and blagus have the old type (from there posts), so assuming a good few dev's have the old type that is going slow down development for your multi/dual touch.
It does however, seem strange that SE would change the hardware.
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Yeah, I know it. Don't tell me
Sure, I haven't believed my eyes too when I saw the photo of the cypress chip. But it's clear for me now why SE put this type of digitizer in the newer X8s (BTW they've changed the screen too, not just the digitizer, _I_think_. It have more contrast ), and I explained it in an other thread, but I forgot in which.
Oh, and sorry about I was so harsh!
Just read on a blog that Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Gingerbread Update Might Deliver Multi-touch and More.How far can this be true ?
Source: http://www.kashtech.info/2011/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread.html
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Lol
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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Lion3494 said:
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Dumb axx
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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No need for foul languege........ but your right
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Might is a very tame word. Considering the device does not have the ability to handle anything more than dual touch, this is interesting news.
it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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Are you crazy? It will deliver 1440x900 resolution, 1080p recording at 60fps, 8mp cap lifted to 16.1mp, fps cap lifted to 58fps including 3D with some accents of time/mediapain.
Well, this was originally posted in brazilian Sony Ericsson official Blog, so I think we could give it a shot. A lot of people said X10 wouldn't support even dual touch, and now we have it. Maybe Sony Ericsson found a way to fix it, despite the hardware limitation, bypassing, I don't know. If SE said multitouch will come with the 2.3 update, I guess I will wait hopefully for that.
The source is in portuguese and I'm too lazy to translate it now, but you guys can believe what I'm saying or use a translator .
2.3 also brings: Full HD screen resolution, native .exe execution, CoD Black Ops pre-installed, slide out joypad like on Xperia Play, and Airplane mode finally turns phone into airplane of your choice, just like we all expected when seen it for the first time...
Also, don't forget about kexec exploit fix == stuck on SE's FW... But with all these functions, why would you want to switch to another ROM??? Enjoy
lol hahaha... iam so excited about the new GB update coming soon...
Read somewhere that the official.update will be released.at the end of July.
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Z dual core in x10! or are you just joking
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Nope. He hacked the CPU power to route it through a Galaxy S2
Pshhh dual core is sooo the day before, talk to me when you have 8 cores implemented
You need Galaxy S II, then with simple CPU reroute process via Wi-Fi, BT, J-Tag, USB and a few more solder points you connect X10 to Galaxy's CPU.
Then you take super glue, and stick the phones together. zdzihu will publish the pictures soon
It was easy, and during the process RSA key was found - it was a nice surprise to find all root, red and brown keys under the CPU on a piece of paper, hand-written with signature of SE's CEO
zdzihu said:
Sorry to say but SE won't be able to deliver this... the only person who could has already left XDA
Sent from my X10 having 50% dual core implemented
Cheers,
z
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Haha lol, I didn't expect you to reply but it was sarcastic meant For if you didn't get it XD
Btw, nice I've got also 50% of Dual Core power in my phone !
OmegaRED^ said:
Are you serious. then it's true the only dev that ever got that far has been banned.
Oddly right after the arc rom with that very feature showed up the trolling started.
Ironic?
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Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
riginal said:
Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
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Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
PlayGunsta said:
Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
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Well good for you because I don't use his roms
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Well good for you because I don't use his roms
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You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
PlayGunsta said:
You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
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Well I like MIUI too, I switched from one of trip's earlier versions I think it was 1.0.4 to Cobrato's MIUI & couldn't be happier, everything works as it should
wtf is this??????????
see os ver...
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x8-3403.php
they are showing our x8 is upgradable to v2.3
same for x10mini lol......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini-3125.php
and for mini pro...
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x10_mini_pro-3147.php
i read an article yesterday from SE saying they were upgrading all Xperia devices to 2.3
Killjoy2017 said:
i read an article yesterday from SE saying they were upgrading all Xperia devices to 2.3
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can you share that link???
i think that applies only to 2011 xperia phones
lijinc said:
i think that applies only to 2011 xperia phones
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so do i, but i'll try and find the link in my history and share it
lijinc said:
i think that applies only to 2011 xperia phones
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/sony-ericsson-updates-xperia-line-with-the-latest-gingerbread-go/
it does say 2011, but depending on the release date of our device, September 2010, if they mean the 2011 fiscal year, we might just scrape it
hahaha lol I am prety shure that there never be an update for X8 and X10 mini's !
rafcamora91 said:
hahaha lol I am prety shure that there never be an update for X8 and X10 mini's !
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iam happy with gdx
lijinc said:
iam happy with gdx
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Yes! we don't need official rom,, custom roms are more better
Who needs a official ROM now?
I think custom rom especially gingerdx rom is much more better than the official one. It faster and smooth like hell..^^
X8 with gingerdx v11, [email protected], supercharger v6, fast reboot, quadrant score more than 1100++..^^
Thank Doixanh!!!
if sony release 2.3 it will be helpful for our dev. they can take lib from it..
I Lol'd. This is the first time I saw a inaccurate info in GSMarena. But even there is really a 2.3 stock ROM. I'll try it but I expect I'll go back to GingerDX after a few hrs.
GingerDXv011 is a must.
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official rom suck
discussion about this already started yesterday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234186
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235554
I think GSMArena was trying to show that our devices(600MHz, 168MB RAM) can run Gingerbread. so SE, fffffffffu
They say that our X8 natively supports wma...LOL
yes gsmarena get's it wrong again.
no update for post 2011 models !
Who care's not me
Running gingerdx v011
with uv. oc. a2sd. MT.
Go Doixanh YOU ARE GOD !
it's funny how much desperately everyone wants official 2.3 while still complaining about it all the time.
orangzeb said:
it's funny how much desperately everyone wants official 2.3 while still complaining about it all the time.
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Perhaps because the devs here can improve on their roms using the SE libs?
I think gsmarena have a reason to show information like that,in fact x8 can running in android 2.3,,but SE su*k,they wont develop it for our phone
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/wp/2012...e-for-unlocked-2011-xperia-smartphone-models/
look there , can some one port this to x8 ?
You can't have this on the X8 because of the following reasons:
We need at least 512 Mb of Ram. 1 Ghz Cpu minimum or at least 825 mhz.
n1kolaa said:
look there , can some one port this to x8 ?
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You must be using Xperia™ arc S, Xperia™ neo V or Xperia™ ray, running the latest Xperia™ software release (which is 4.0.2.A.0.42). Please note that you can’t use the original Xperia™ arc or Xperia™ neo, as they have different partition layouts.
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Well, have much fun trying to port the ROM for the devices mentioned above to the ARMv6VFP of the W/X8.
But then...
Look here, we actually already have a partly working ICS ROM for the X8
Porting now
BIG JD said:
Porting now
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what does porting now mean?
that means you are porting this rom to x8?
theroom3600 said:
what does porting now mean?
that means you are porting this rom to x8?
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Seems like it, Googling It might help, lol.
Yes he is porting it, to the x8, but as b.jay said, we already have a ics port partly running our devices.
Anyway, good luck porting, I tried but im a beginner on making android roms, I have my own project ti work on . Anyway,good luck
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Porting now
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good luck if you need help call me
8
They are already doing the firmware - ice cream sandwich, and for x8 can not do normal 2.3! What the hell?
i think ICS not good for x8,cause x8 hardware not supported it
I think too.. but wait and see
xperiandra said:
i think ICS not good for x8,cause x8 hardware not supported it
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I think too.. but wait and see
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What the hell are you guys talking about ?! If that's the case, paul-xxx's cm9 shouldn't even work
I've never said that he's working for nothing..
Just that x8 has hardware limits.. It's very difficult for me to try explain it in english..
Look. Try to port windows 7 on a 800mhz with 256mb ram.. It will be extremely difficult.. I think it's a little the same.
Course he's doing great job.. I tested it and it's running well.. but I'm perplexed that we can run ICS with all of his fonctionnality on our x8.
But I hope I'm wrong
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I've never said that he's working for nothing..
Just that x8 has hardware limits.. It's very difficult for me to try explain it in english..
Look. Try to port windows 7 on a 800mhz with 256mb ram.. It will be extremely difficult.. I think it's a little the same.
Course he's doing great job.. I tested it and it's running well.. but I'm perplexed that we can run ICS with all of his fonctionnality on our x8.
But I hope I'm wrong
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Nothing in IMPOSSIBLE... it's sometimes confused with very, very, very hard
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I think you're right : nothing is impossible..
But I think too you understand my reasoning