Anyone knows if x8 can support multitouch. Is it hardware limitation or just software stupidity of SE?
While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
refract said:
While I was reading x10 news about multitouch, the article basically said the phone developers themselves had to "hack" the phone and enable it via software.
Basically if I understood it correctly from the article, the hardware is flagged as "non supportive", while it can be enabled via software.
That above ^ makes no sense, so I'd just say it's a software issue.
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If thats right,ppl can make it multitouch
I wish that will happen
Look here:
www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=199987
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
Can someone try this.
Please.
karun11 said:
Look here:
So we just 'might' get multitouch too.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907736
similar :/
Does the X8 digitizer support multi touch?
Yes, it does.
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Right, basically means the software for multitouch is already done.
Now let's see how long it'll take them to dispatch the update
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yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
Tehouster said:
yeah.. if the 2.2 & 2.3 update will not come, so we can forget about the multitouch.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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nice job.
but I can always put the original firmware from 2.2 OS or 2.3
Yes, we also can do it. But it won't work.
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dude look at my signature !
or here : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petit...Ericsson-Xperia-series/123850457682141?ref=mf
We are more than 2.000 ppl ! YES WE CAN !
We want 2 show it SE !
We will buy no mobiles from then anymore if they dont publish new fw updates !
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Excuse me for being upfront, but you'll have to change your slogan in that mini "campaign"
The whole intention of them not updating software is most likely to just force you to buy new versions of mobile phones you already have ( x10 -> arc, x8 -> some new phone that'll come in 2011 ).
So it's all the same for them if you stick to your x8 for example, as the only thing they're attempting to do here is to force you to buy a new mobile phone - if you don't succumb to it, they don't give a flying **** cause you'll be stuck on a outdated, non-updating platform, and it's in your best interest to get off it if you're at least a bit of a tech savvy individual.
Also, people who stick with Sony Ericsson brand since their first phone ( such as myself, from old Ericsson t20e 'till newest x8 ), is their main market. No matter how bad service is, I won't change my mobile phone brand, as it's something I've gotten used to ever since I was 8 ( 13 years later, still using the same brand ), and same goes for many many users out there who don't need tech stuff like most of us here on xda want.
At least that's my point of view on it.
Sad really, but heh :\ Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread, and I signed up on facebook for the 2.2 support.
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
Tehouster said:
if is for X10, so it's will be for X8 also
NEW UPDATE
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possible dude but only the employer know it yet :S
@refract : I dont know.I think I will never buy a SE again if they dont publish new updates like 2.2+ for SE X8 because for exp : If I buy a new SE mobile next year,maybe will there again no updates for it -.-
Next phones will have better updates schedule.
-X8 z Tapatalk-
Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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use search amit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811457
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Does anybone here knows how to root x8 running on android 2.1??
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after rooting x8, do we have available ROMs here?
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Lucky Nexus One bustards
As owners for X10, are we eligible for this update??
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Google is also celebrating today - Android 2.2 Froyo has reached two important milestones. Google open sourced the latest version and they are pushing out the final Froyo update to Nexus One users. And we're sure the timing has nothing to do with the launch of the iPhone 4.
Sure, Froyo has been available to Nexus One users for a while (mostly on dev phones and through manual updates), but this seems to be the final, official version of Android 2.2. You could manually download the update from here (it works only if you're running FRF50 firmware), though if you don't know what you're doing, you should wait for the OTA update.
Your Nexus One should automatically check for updates or you could force a check (go to Settings -> About phone -> System updates), so one way or another you should be getting a notification that a new version is available and download it Over-the-Air.
Some people are reporting that the update is not available for them yet, so it might not work right away - rolling out updates is a gradual process and it varies by location too.
The other important milestone for Android 2.2 Froyo is that Google open-sourced the code to their partners and manufacturers and everyone else too. This means that they can start working on Froyo firmwares for the non-Google phones.
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Well the Nexus One is a Google brand phone so it's no huge surprise that the Nexus gets it first. It'd be more suprising if it didn't.
ddewbofh said:
Well the Nexus One is a Google brand phone so it's no huge surprise that the Nexus gets it first. It'd be more suprising if it didn't.
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Totally agree with you, but I believe SE should consider updating us (X10 users) to the 2.2 not 2.1
Anybody is reading from SE team???
fadimck said:
Totally agree with you, but I believe SE should consider updating us (X10 users) to the 2.2 not 2.1
Anybody is reading from SE team???
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You put your hope on SE? Joke or what?
The way I see it with Android devices is that you buy the hardware and then hack the software to hell and back. Just didn't count on the X10 being so hard to mod when I got it, guess I'm too used to HTC phones.
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The way I see it with Android devices is that you buy the hardware and then hack the software to hell and back. Just didn't count on the X10 being so hard to mod when I got it, guess I'm too used to HTC phones.
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I believe when the root is released we will not have any problems
fadimck said:
I believe when the root is released we will not have any problems
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Of course, I'm counting on that too. But the suspense is killing me.
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Of course, I'm counting on that too. But the suspense is killing me.
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did you hear any expected date of release?
fadimck said:
did you hear any expected date of release?
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I've heard tons of timeframes, all of them are "Later", "Soon", "When it's done" and so on. Afaict they've got it working but need to make it more noob-friendly as well as hide the exploit.
I understand that 'root' has been achieved, but won't there be further delays until a stable custom Rom is created for the x10?
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I understand that 'root' has been achieved, but won't there be further delays until a stable custom Rom is created for the x10?
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Oh yes, it will take anywhere from a short while to a very long time afterwards. Getting root is just one step of the way.
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Oh yes, it will take anywhere from a short while to a very long time afterwards. Getting root is just one step of the way.
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Thought as much. From the posts on other threads it seems as though posters think root and ROM will appear simultaneously.
I can imagine that the first ROMs we'll get our hands on will have all sorts of bugs, and we'll have to compromise on things like WiFi, Bluetooth e.t.c. Maybe due to lack of drivers available.
I'm going on past experience from The G1 and old WinMo devices.
Oh well.......
Remember to be realistic, guys. The devs can't just copy and paste Froyo onto our X10s without a hitch. It will take some time. I'm not even anticipating a stable version of Froyo on the X10 because it is a huge task.
What I'd like to see is the latest FW but stripped down with no branding or operator software (and no Moxier crap!!!). And if it's possible, for Flash to be released on the X10. That may not be feasible but I certainly hope it's available. SE takes forever!!
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Thought as much. From the posts on other threads it seems as though posters think root and ROM will appear simultaneously.
I can imagine that the first ROMs we'll get our hands on will have all sorts of bugs, and we'll have to compromise on things like WiFi, Bluetooth e.t.c. Maybe due to lack of drivers available.
I'm going on past experience from The G1 and old WinMo devices.
Oh well.......
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you are right but i can sacrifice and wait as this phone is a monster
bongd said:
Remember to be realistic, guys. The devs can't just copy and paste Froyo onto our X10s without a hitch. It will take some time. I'm not even anticipating a stable version of Froyo on the X10 because it is a huge task.
What I'd like to see is the latest FW but stripped down with no branding or operator software (and no Moxier crap!!!). And if it's possible, for Flash to be released on the X10. That may not be feasible but I certainly hope it's available. SE takes forever!!
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we have no option dear friend except to wait/pray and see the results
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we have no option dear friend except to wait/pray and see the results
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Already hoping and praying to Gods which I don't even worship! LOL
Following on from THIS thread which raises a valid point imo...
The Galaxy Spica (also known as the i5700) has been blessed with multitouch support in some homebrew drivers that are making their way into homebrew kernels for homebrew ROMs, despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time. Really drives home the point that "support" can refer both to the hardware's capability and the manufacturer's willingness to maximize it, doesn't it?
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-mobile.engadget.com
...MT may just be possible after all.
It means nothing.
IBTL.
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It means nothing.
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Or could mean it is possible, but will take a developer to realise it.
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
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Who knows now, but this news opens up to the possibility that it just might work...
despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
This is just another pointless thread, When we crack the boot loader and can put on Custom Roms we will find out if its a yes or a no, till then we can all debade the meanings of life and all the other types to topics that are there to waste time.
Chewitt said:
This is just another pointless thread
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It might be, in your opinion, the point of the thread is to highlight that another handset of which it's maker said MT wasn't available now actually is thanks to a developer, so there just might be a possibility that other handsets sold with no MT support might not necessarily be because of a hardware issue.
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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they have to say something, if it supports, SE wont launch drivers for it so soon... Without know the model of the panel, no way to know.
tigger69 said:
As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
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I just love how you refer to it everytime without fail, as crapple.
I think the best way is asking a SE dev if x10 supports MT
Maybe SE will enable it on 2.1 if the hardware supports it....
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Im closing this because it could have easily been put into the other multitouch debate threads
http://www.venusvenera.com/2011/04/how-to-upgrade-sony-ericsson-xperia-x8_4661.html
I don't think so. To me, it looks kind of strange that he says
I already updated my phone to 2.3 before creating this tutorial
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But, if you are on Android 1.6, you would see the message that a new software update is available for your phone.
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Android 1.6 to 2.3? Where is 2.1?
I think this is a simple trick to get more views this site.
Just look at the "Related Posts" at the bottom of the site...
there is the same tutorial as this to upgrad our X8 to 3.0 Honeycomb.
It is FAKE
I think you are right, somebody just messed up...
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Nope, it's faker than fake websites ... and even if you look closely at the tutorial you'll see it's for X10 and I bet it was meant for the 2.1 update not 2.3 which will come to X10 sometime in the next 6 months.
It's just one of that fake web-sites.
hello see this................
translate this
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=123338294344642&topic=785
that's great news!!
afaik, there's no app2sd possibility on android 2.1, so...let's hope
This is GREAT news..if it is true though..because sometimes the one answering those questions is the marketing guys who knows nothing about sofware updates..
What date the guestion its?.. maybe they mean the past update.., remember we had 2 time update from se...,update to eclair and update to fix tnt function., maybe its mean that update not froyo.
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I don't think that they will update X8 to froyo/gb because if they release update, then they won't have money stupid SE
sry for my english
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What date the guestion its?.. maybe they mean the past update.., remember we had 2 time update from se...,update to eclair and update to fix tnt function., maybe its mean that update not froyo.
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Monday, May 23 2011 at 8:21am
is SE's answer
i cant translate this as im viewing from my phone. can anyone post it here in english plz..?
proud owner of SE XPERIA X8
maliceomalice said:
i cant translate this as im viewing from my phone. can anyone post it here in english plz..?
proud owner of SE XPERIA X8
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SE's answer to question:
"The update comes, we are finalizing him. This can be expected early in June. We warn this is our message board!"
maliceomalice said:
i cant translate this as im viewing from my phone. can anyone post it here in english plz..?
proud owner of SE XPERIA X8
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Lode Maertens
Hi Sony Ericsson
I recently bought an Xperia X8 and it's a nice phone
got me a lot worse in the phone memory is too small for the applications
Android 2.2 or 2.3 can use your app 2 sd so my question is is there a new update or is there a way around this problem?
thanks in advance
On Saturday · Report
Sony Ericsson Belgium
Dear Lode,
The update comes, we are finalizing him. This can be expected early in June. We warn this is our message board!
Greetz,
On Monday · Report
well thats great news...just have to wait and see then if they will really keep their words...
proud owner of SE XPERIA X8
Eldar Murtazin @engadget confirms that is true!
https://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin/status/73370002266390529
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Eldar Murtazin @engadget confirms that is true!
https://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin/status/73370002266390529
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Awesome news..
update
Great!!! Till then, try one of the Mods, see what an update should do, ) Try XGin from Shpit and see what I mean. Grat job withe the developers. Thank all, now we can see that with limited hardware, this can be done. And we know what we SHOULD expect from SE.
This is,great but still no official new from se uk or asia. Who cares as long as they want to release the updates.yay, cant wait!
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wow, i hope that it is dualtouch they have made it possible for x10, so why can't they try it for x8 and minis ??? i don' care about official froyo/gb update, because x8 devs and their roms are better than SE devs and their crappy roms xda rocks !!!!
edit: there is new firmware on ptcrb :http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=17877
Maybe this is only a system update. I doubt SE will update the Android version on the X8.
Lol ... i dont need that fu***** update! We have fully working android 2.2 and 2.3 will be soon i wonder ;D so its no need to do this update.
no co ja tylko tak mysle xd
I just want dual touch and flash ;D
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Any kind of update is always welcome even if its a minor bug fix or an added feature.
Phatzy said:
Any kind of update is always welcome even if its a minor bug fix or an added feature.
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But it will be eclair 2.1 ! They said that x8 cant hold 2.2 ... ( but we even have 2.3 working fine ) it just will be some fix for 2.1 and then you update and then again you will need to restore your beautiful custom rom!
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well maybe SE will just take racht's floyo v0.20'modify it a bit and introduce it as x8 2.2 update...haha2 bcoz racht done a very good job with his 2.2 rom...
Just read on a blog that Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Gingerbread Update Might Deliver Multi-touch and More.How far can this be true ?
Source: http://www.kashtech.info/2011/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread.html
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Lol
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Lion3494 said:
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Dumb axx
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No need for foul languege........ but your right
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Might is a very tame word. Considering the device does not have the ability to handle anything more than dual touch, this is interesting news.
it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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Are you crazy? It will deliver 1440x900 resolution, 1080p recording at 60fps, 8mp cap lifted to 16.1mp, fps cap lifted to 58fps including 3D with some accents of time/mediapain.
Well, this was originally posted in brazilian Sony Ericsson official Blog, so I think we could give it a shot. A lot of people said X10 wouldn't support even dual touch, and now we have it. Maybe Sony Ericsson found a way to fix it, despite the hardware limitation, bypassing, I don't know. If SE said multitouch will come with the 2.3 update, I guess I will wait hopefully for that.
The source is in portuguese and I'm too lazy to translate it now, but you guys can believe what I'm saying or use a translator .
2.3 also brings: Full HD screen resolution, native .exe execution, CoD Black Ops pre-installed, slide out joypad like on Xperia Play, and Airplane mode finally turns phone into airplane of your choice, just like we all expected when seen it for the first time...
Also, don't forget about kexec exploit fix == stuck on SE's FW... But with all these functions, why would you want to switch to another ROM??? Enjoy
lol hahaha... iam so excited about the new GB update coming soon...
Read somewhere that the official.update will be released.at the end of July.
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KInG GaME said:
Z dual core in x10! or are you just joking
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Nope. He hacked the CPU power to route it through a Galaxy S2
Pshhh dual core is sooo the day before, talk to me when you have 8 cores implemented
You need Galaxy S II, then with simple CPU reroute process via Wi-Fi, BT, J-Tag, USB and a few more solder points you connect X10 to Galaxy's CPU.
Then you take super glue, and stick the phones together. zdzihu will publish the pictures soon
It was easy, and during the process RSA key was found - it was a nice surprise to find all root, red and brown keys under the CPU on a piece of paper, hand-written with signature of SE's CEO
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Sorry to say but SE won't be able to deliver this... the only person who could has already left XDA
Sent from my X10 having 50% dual core implemented
Cheers,
z
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Haha lol, I didn't expect you to reply but it was sarcastic meant For if you didn't get it XD
Btw, nice I've got also 50% of Dual Core power in my phone !
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Are you serious. then it's true the only dev that ever got that far has been banned.
Oddly right after the arc rom with that very feature showed up the trolling started.
Ironic?
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Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
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Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
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Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
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Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
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Well good for you because I don't use his roms
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Well good for you because I don't use his roms
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You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
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You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
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Well I like MIUI too, I switched from one of trip's earlier versions I think it was 1.0.4 to Cobrato's MIUI & couldn't be happier, everything works as it should