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I've just started with Android apps and having a tiny little device like this Flipout, the most obvious first app for me to try was a compass.
I tried several of the free ones, all of which worked fine on my Desire Z, but were 'screwy' at best on the Flipout.
Supposedly, the Flipout has Accelerometer, Altimeter, Digital Compass and GPS sensors, yet the compass apps not only are strangely oriented but plain don't work - They don't point North and even away from all possible interference sources just jump around.
Are Flipouts normally just screwy, or is there something I can do to fix this issue?
Thanks,
Dylan.
Also now finding the tilt mechanism is reversed, ie left & right functions only happen when I tilt the device forward and back.
Can anyone please help with this?
DylanKeyne said:
Also now finding the tilt mechanism is reversed, ie left & right functions only happen when I tilt the device forard and back.
Can anyone please help with this?
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The sensors appear to be screwed up because the default orientation of the flipout/charm is landscape whereas most other phones have portrait mode as default orientation. Hence most applications are built for portrait orientations.
Hence there although the display might be shown in portrait mode, the sensor values are obtained from the landscape orientation.
Some application detect this issue and assign sensor values appropriately but that only a small minority.
I would suggest that you use a Display Orientation Changer available on Google Play and hence force the application to run in landscape mode.
Regards
HSR
My thanks to you HSR, but alas I have no luck so far.
Are there any particular orientators you'd recommend? I've tried four different orientator apps on all available settings. None have fixed the issue and one just outright crashes.
I'm using Smart Compass and Penguin Skiing as test apps, as I know they work perfectly and precisely on my Desire Z
Is this a hardware issue?
Using the orientators seemed to change not only the screen orientation, but the sensor's as well. In short, it turned everything 90º, rather than just the bits I needed.
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My thanks to you HSR, but alas I have no luck so far.
Are there any particular orientators you'd recommend? I've tried four different orientator apps on all available settings. None have fixed the issue and one just outright crashes.
I'm using Smart Compass and Penguin Skiing as test apps, as I know they work perfectly and precisely on my Desire Z
Is this a hardware issue?
Using the orientators seemed to change not only the screen orientation, but the sensor's as well. In short, it turned everything 90º, rather than just the bits I needed.
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Hey, try this. it seems to work for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28022264&highlight=orient#post28022264
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24844428&postcount=953
Nope... :crying:
I've tried that one, both the version here and the one on Google Play.
Tried two more this evening as well. No luck.
Some of them do turn the display but the sensors alter with them, so whichever way the screen is, the compass moves North 90º from where it should be and the game controls are still twisted.
From the links I posted, try the one from the forum and force the display to landscape. Try the free version of doodle jump and check if it alters properly.
Doodle Jump - Este elemento no es compatible con tu dispositivo...
Is there another that is compatible?
Really starting to regret this Flipout - Tried 4 different unlocking shops in town today and none have been successful!
DylanKeyne said:
Doodle Jump - Este elemento no es compatible con tu dispositivo...
Is there another that is compatible?
Really starting to regret this Flipout - Tried 4 different unlocking shops in town today and none have been successful!
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:s oh, try any motion sensor app which runs only in portrait mode, in forced landscape mode using the app in the 2nd link I posted.
By unlocking you mean carrier unlocking?
I tried several more with the forum orientator you linked to - Same result, I'm afraid.
The screen orients back and forth just fine, but when you change that, the tilt sensor maintains the same crossways alignment.
Sorry, yes I meant Carrier Unlock (Orange UK).
The first 3 shops came back with 8 digit codes of failure. The 4th one got a 16 digit code but it also failed to work. They're trying something else which will take 2-3 days, apparently...
DylanKeyne said:
I tried several more with the forum orientator you linked to - Same result, I'm afraid.
The screen orients back and forth just fine, but when you change that, the tilt sensor maintains the same crossways alignment.
Sorry, yes I meant Carrier Unlock (Orange UK).
The first 3 shops came back with 8 digit codes of failure. The 4th one got a 16 digit code but it also failed to work. They're trying something else which will take 2-3 days, apparently...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376037
This is for Charm but you could try this for sim unlock.
Regarding orientation issue, have your tried with the keyboard opened and with keyboard closed.
Any difference then?
Sorry that some things I told do not work, its probably because im a moto charm user and the keyboard swivel must be invoked in different ways.
No, no difference with the phone open or closed. Tried that each time I changed something else as well.
Will try that unlock when I get back home, though.
Update - Phone is SIM unlocked. The helpful shop texted through a code that they guaranteed would work, which it clearly did.
No closer to resolving the sensor orientation issue though.
Is it just me being stupid/missing something/having this problem on the Flipout, or does anyone else have it?
Update April 1st 2014: Many owners of a Note 3 these last few months have reported that their updated firmware does not suffer any multitouch issues (anymore). A few people have reported that newer firmware has re-introduced multitouch issues, so I'm still calling it "Mostly fixed". I will update the opening post if this status changes.
Below text is still phrased like the problem is "current" in many Note 3's. Will update that part soon.
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Hi while checking my new model Nexus 7 for (minor) multitouch problems with the apps "MultiTouch Test" and "MultiTouch Tester" I also tried these on my Note 3. Here I discovered that fingers/touches kept disappearing even with only 3 or 4 fingers on my European Note 3. Just moving the fingers about made 1 or more touches disappear. Since then I discovered the problem is much more severe, and can happen with only 2 fingers on the screen, making it far more likely it will disrupt normal phone usage.
If you're interested if your Note 3 has this problem, for warranty sake or otherwise, you can either follow the written steps below or try to emulate the videos.
3RD UPDATE:
A procedure to check whether you have the multitouch defect: (UPDATED on October 12th)
1. Download and run a multitouch testing app of good reputation (I tried both MultiTouch Test and MultiTouch Tester).
2. Put 2 (or more) fingers on the screen of your Note 3 in a horizontal line in landscape mode. You can also use Portrait mode with 2 fingers (shown in the second video below).
3. Move the fingers slightly about, trying to have both (all) in a straight horizontal line.
4. After only a bit of trying one (or more) detected fingers should disappear (become undetected) or ghost touch detections should appear.
To make it easier to detect these 'glitches' you can either use more fingers (3 should suffice) or try to emulate the videos below. If you don't have the Multitouch problem on your Note 3 then please also fill in the Poll so we get an idea of the scope of this phenomenon. Thanks!
Video showing 3 fingers 'gltching' in landscape mode: (beside a Galaxy Note 1)
Video showing 2 fingers 'glitching' in portrait mode:
Video showing erratic Multitouch behavior with more fingers: (through an "unwilling" participant )
(moving your fingers around a bit you should have the same Multitouch issues with only 3-5 fingers on screen)
Ps: I included a "Have not tested yet" entry in the Poll, fully expecting a user to change his/her choice later on; the xda forum software doesn't allow changing either the Poll or your choice unfortunately.
Mine works ok with 4 fingers. But with 5 or more, it's where the problems start.
What exactly does this mean? Not expecting to use more then 2 fingers at once. It seems pointless to me. No?
It's hard today use 5 finger on the phone
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tWoBrO said:
Mine works ok with 4 fingers. But with 5 or more, it's where the problems start.
What exactly does this mean? Not expecting to use more then 2 fingers at once. It seems pointless to me. No?
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It seems I would agree, but seeing the commotion on the Nexus 7 forum and the impact on control glitches while playing games I thought I'd raise the question. Better to know and understand then pure ignorance.
Agree, that's why I asked.
Personally I don't remember one single time that I have used 3+ fingers on the screen.
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Hi while checking my new model Nexus 7 for (minor) multitouch problems with the apps "MultiTouch Test" and "MultiTouch Tester" I also tried these on my Note 3. Here I discovered that fingers/touches keep disappearing even with only 3 or 4 fingers on my European Note 3. Just moving the fingers about makes 1 or more touches disappear. Can others check as some don't seem to have this problem. Thanks in advance!
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I had that problem too. I noticed that when I didn't manage to drift in Mario Kart. I had to change my controller layout so it is not symmetrical because the problem seems to appear when your third touch is at the same level as your first one (sorry if that doesn't make any sense, English is not my primary language).
(I have a N9005 btw).
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I had that problem too. I noticed that when I didn't manage to drift in Mario Kart. I had to change my controller layout so it is not symmetrical because the problem seems to appear when your third touch is at the same level as your first one (sorry if that doesn't make any sense, English is not my primary language).
(I have a N9005 btw).
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Mine is a N9005 too. There must be many more people with such a defective Note 3 but not yet discovered it.
sounds like a touch screen driver problem. contact samsung about this. if they know it they will fix it at the next firmware release.
Did you use the built-in "show touches" feature in developers options to rule out any app compatibility issues?
mi7chy said:
Did you use the built-in "show touches" feature in developers options to rule out any app compatibility issues?
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Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately, with such small round indicators, that feature doesn't help much in discovering suddenly disappearing finger touches.
I have used the latest version of both apps ("MultiTouch Test" and "MultiTouch Tester") mentioned in the openingpost. Sofar it seems that some people have the issue and others haven't, which would indicate that the problem is inside the phone, not the app(s).
A procedure to check whether you have the multitouch defect:
1. Download and run a multitouch testing app of good reputation (I tried both MultiTouch Test and MultiTouch Tester).
2. Put 3 or 4 fingers on the screen of your Note 3 in a horizontal line in landscape mode.
3. Move the fingers about trying to have at least a couple in a straight horizontal line (still in landscape).
4. After a bit of trying one or several detected fingers should disappear (become undetected) or ghost touch detections should appear.
5. In my case I can have 3 fingers on the screen with only 1 or 2 detected.
Today I got assured from somebody working at a local (Dutch) Samsung service center that Samsung won't exchange or repair my phone with the knox warranty flag set. They will just send it back and void the warranty. I'm also sure that many more people have this defect but don't know it yet, so it could become wise (or crucial ) to check for this problem BEFORE rooting your Note 3.
I will make a mention of this situation in some rooting topics so people are warned beforehand and can do a quick check for this phenomena. On my phone it looked like a Nexus 7 type defect which I am sure a lot of (smart phone) gamers will find highly undesirable.
Yup, definitely have this issue myself. Very worrying.
neoKushan said:
Yup, definitely have this issue myself. Very worrying.
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neoKushan, thanks for your comment. Sofar you are only the third or fourth with this defect I am aware of.
I added a poll so we can collect data on this without everyone needing to reply (not that I want to discourage anyone from replying ).
Yes, my phone does have this problem, when I put more than 4 fingers on the screen horizontally or very closed to each other, it's shown only 2-3 fingers, sometime only 1. I dont use that many finger on my phone but it just bug me to know that I have a defected phone...
I can reproduce it after a lot of moving the fingers around but it's not easily reproducible. I'm not sure if I brought it back to the store they would recognize it as a problem since it mostly works normally. Is that how it is with others, or are you able to easily reproduce it time after time?
When I align three fingers one can disappear after messing with it for awhile. But if one does disappear and I put a fourth finger, ghost fingers appear and it spazzes out. (in any case, i have to mess around quite a bit before anything weird happens)
I haven't rooted yet, should I take to T-MOBILE and show them? Will they just dismiss it, like it's not an issue?
Is it REALLY an issue? I really want to root my phone, but I don't want to have issues later.
It can certainly be an issue (the 3 finger version at least) if you play games on your Note 3 using on-screen controls. Someone earlier here mentioned Mario Kart.
No problems here
I have the SM-N900W8 Canadian
All multitouch test apps work fine for me
All fingers move and detected perfect
10 fingers were detected (5 were mine, 5 were my co workers) =O
wtf?
first test, with 6 fingers looks good. I did some strange movements, everything looks ok.
but you are right, in landscape mode, with 4 fingers on a row,
very strange effects are visible.
2 from 4 focal points are temporarely lost.
tested on a german version gt 9005 stock rom without root, yet.
Ive been looking for a solution but havent found it yet.
I got a tab 4 10.1 with 5.0.2r, i got a deadspot that is about 1cm wide and couple mm in hight.
I confirmed it when checking with touch test app but the weird thing is, when i draw horizon lines it shows clearly where the dead spot is but it will let me draw vertical lines.
Hope its not broke as i have no more warrancy so maybe there are some tricks.
Ofc i already powered off the device and restarted.
Cheers
Similar to this problem for the S6 Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/magnetic-sensor-compass-problem-t3109583
When reboot the device, the compass/magnetic sensor is not calibrated. Once I dial the *#0*# and then chose the sensors, and rotate the phone on the 3-axis, the magnetic sensor becomes calibrated, the number 0 and red line becomes number 3 and blue line in the black circle. However, if I decide to reboot, have to do it all over again, have to rotate the phone on the 3-axis to recalibrate the magnetic sensor.
It seems like the problem still persists on the S7 Edge, am I the only one?
Thanks,
JP
I have exactly this same problem on my S7 edge in Australia from Optus - compass re calibrated then when off and on again it needs doing again every time. It looks to me as if at least some S7 edge may have inherent compass sensor or software issue. I will try and replace it via shop but they said it may take many weeks to get a replacement once returned if out of stock as they would need return it to somewhere to check it...
Shaun123 said:
I have exactly this same problem on my S7 edge in Australia from Optus - compass re calibrated then when off and on again it needs doing again every time. It looks to me as if at least some S7 edge may have inherent compass sensor or software issue. I will try and replace it via shop but they said it may take many weeks to get a replacement once returned if out of stock as they would need return it to somewhere to check it...
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I'm wondering if they are not all the same the S7 Edge, seems as if this was the case with my S6 Edge, almost everyone had this problem and Samsung wasn't doing much for it.
It seems as of this is the case for my wifes S4, my S6Edge and now my S7Edge.
Can anyone else confirm this? It's as easy as rebooting, then dialing *#0*# and then under Sensor...
I'm having the same problem on my S7 Edge.
Optus, Australia.
Maybe it's Exynos only, and SD don't have this issue?
My compass wasn't calibrated when I checked. Now is. Need to check if GPS works better now.
jsamuels said:
My compass wasn't calibrated when I checked. Now is. Need to check if GPS works better now.
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You'll loose your calibration once you reboot the phone...
How do you calibrate the sensor?
Rickyw324 said:
How do you calibrate the sensor?
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You rotate your phone along the 3-axis until it's calibrated
I do not believe this is a problem or issue! You need to calibrate each time you reboot. The same thing applies to the iPhone (blah!)
chippyuk said:
I do not believe this is a problem or issue! You need to calibrate each time you reboot. The same thing applies to the iPhone (blah!)
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You think? It could be the case, as my S6E as well as my S4 do the same thing...
jproy12 said:
You rotate your phone along the 3-axis until it's calibrated
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That was simple, thank you. :good:
chippyuk said:
I do not believe this is a problem or issue! You need to calibrate each time you reboot. The same thing applies to the iPhone (blah!)
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Never had to recalibrate on any of the three iPhones I owned. And certainly not on the 6s Plus I used before getting the s7.
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Never had to recalibrate on any of the three iPhones I owned. And certainly not on the 6s Plus I used before getting the s7.
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Well you are right about the 6s as I just tried it. I don't think I even opened the compass on my 6 but after every restart on my 5 and 5s I definitely had to re-calibrate after a restart. Might be because I was jail-broken though. No idea then, hopefully someone who knows about the actual electronics may chip in...
Hi. Has anyone had an issue with the compass being very jittery after it has been calibrated?
When I reboot the phone, the compass works fine and is stable unless I calibrate it again. It is my second S7 Edge and I have had the exact same problem on both devices...
i've read the s6 thread and did the *#0*# thing and works!
(for those too lazy to read the link, basically press *#0*# on the call screen and it will bring up the "tests" screen
press the sensor
and will see the bottom, the status of the magnetic sensor
if it's not blue and has number 3 , than it's not "calibrated"
to calibrate, do the 3-axis thing (rotate the phone on 3 axis: turn it upside down height-wise, flip from side to side length-wise, twist it depth-wise) and the sensor will turn to number 3 and colored blue line)
(to exit which ever screens, just double press "back" button on the phone)
but my question is... (for those who've done it) seems like it has to be done (calibrate) on this "test" screen? can't calibrate if it's not this test screen?
Same here. Frustrating to need to recalibrate after reboot. Was the problem ever resolved with the S6 or should I just accept and learn to live with the issue?
this (calibration loss after reboot) was the case for every android device i owned so far since years!
so this is normal, and cant and wont be fixed!
TML1504 said:
this (calibration loss after reboot) was the case for every android device i owned so far since years!
so this is normal, and cant and wont be fixed!
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I did not have any issues with my original HTC One, G3 or OnePlusOne. But, I guess it's going to be a fact-of-life.
Galaxy s7 edge
So i found the answer guys to fix searching for gps and gps not working. Running samsung galaxy s7 edge, also with optus but that doesnt matter. Soball you need to do is calibrate your phone, now you can download apps but if you use the built in app that comes with the s7, it works better
Step 1. Swipe the edge notifacations to bring up side display.
Step 2. Go into the settings, by touching the clog on the bottom left.
Step 3. Tick the widget for the compass, ruler.
Step 4. Go back to the home screen and swipe to bring up the side display.
Step 5. Go to the compass widget and in there, there is a calibrate button to click on and complete the calibration by spinning your phone on a axis as displayed and your done.
You wont have to redo it each time you restart like the other ways i have seen. I have contacted samsung about this, hopefully they fix this stupid issue.
Hi everyone,
Yesterday I accidentally dropped my Note 3 into the toilet. I just flushed the toilet by the way
Pulled it out as fast as I could and dried it. Switched it off and took it apart. Clicked of the backcase and battery and also removed the motherboard. The water that got inside was very minimal.
Everything works except my s-pen. My Note regonizes it when I remove the pen and a memo pops up.
When I hover my pen above the screen normally a small circle should be visible but nothing happens. Even when I touch the screen nothing happens. Strange enough my pen works on my Samsung Note 10.1
When I enter my Note 3 into the testmode (with code *#0*#) I have two tests:
- SPEN HOVERING
- TSP HOVERING
The first one does not work but the TSP hovering test does.
I already have reset my Note 3 to factory default but without any results.
What could be wrong with my Note 3? Is it only the pen or something else. Is it software or hardware related?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Try another pen