[req] super secure lockscreen?! - Epic 4G General

Is there a way to develope a lockscreen that can only be unlocked by one person(owner) by means of facial recognition? (front facing cam) Or by thumb recognition (screen scanner?) This would make it super secure and you wouldnt have to hide your unlock pattern like most of the secure lockscreens we have avaliable nowadays. I know CM7 has a pretty nice one with the invisible dots I think, But Im not running that rom, Maybe that lockscreen can get ported?
Just a thought, Im sure this could be a huge success if perfected! Thoughts?
Oh and P.S. This is an awesome website, My thanks go out to all contributing members!!!!

You could use this...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inoxapps.finger_security_bw

Touchwiz has invisible dots too...
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Neckberg said:
You could use this...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inoxapps.finger_security_bw
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lol, that app is awful...
Please note that Finger print Security Scanner is for entertainment purposes and does not actually scan your fingerprint. This is a prank application to have fun with your friends.
Also, NOTE that pressing the home button will unlock the phone, this has been done intentionally to ensure that even if you have forgotten the Key to unlocking the phone you do not land up in trouble.
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You could use Visidon but I think it only locks apps. I found it didn't work too well with different lighting.

Just thought I'd put it out here... I'm all for safe and secure phone... I for one used the 3x3 pattern lock for the longest time. Untill one day I had a medical emergency and was unresponsive.... EMS crews tried to get into my phone to call someone to find out if i was allergic to anything... Needless to say they didn't get into my phone.
Lucky I was ok 5 min later.....
Moral of the story its nice to have a secure lock but can be problematic if a emergency arises.
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Galaxy Nexus
can hope that sprint gets this phone in a few months - it has facial unlock.

svfreddy said:
Is there a way to develope a lockscreen that can only be unlocked by one person(owner) by means of facial recognition? (front facing cam) Or by thumb recognition (screen scanner?) This would make it super secure and you wouldnt have to hide your unlock pattern like most of the secure lockscreens we have avaliable nowadays. I know CM7 has a pretty nice one with the invisible dots I think, But Im not running that rom, Maybe that lockscreen can get ported?
Just a thought, Im sure this could be a huge success if perfected! Thoughts?
Oh and P.S. This is an awesome website, My thanks go out to all contributing members!!!!
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Facial Recognition is iffy on CM9 Builds atm. The Epic's future life is now in the hands of getting it official to Cynanogenmod. Once it becomes official, CM9 would be what lies ahead, hopefully by then, our brother and sister Galaxy S phones will have Facial Recognition worked out and maybe we'll be able to fork that source over to the Epic.
Finger Scan won't ever work without the proper hardware. Even with costly proprietary software, it wouldn't be feasible. As for locks, I currently use a combination of the 10 lockmod and a pin number as my password. It seems to be the most effective method of keeping my phone safe. I can rest assured that nobody will guess my pin, whilst still having the ease of unlocking it with a few numbers.
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I just leave my phone unlocked. I like to encourage those around me to see my nudes. My boss says I'm a sexual harrasment suit waiting to happen.
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austin420 said:
I just leave my phone unlocked. I like to encourage those around me to see my nudes. My boss says I'm a sexual harrasment suit waiting to happen.
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As wrong as that is it's quite funny lol.
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thanks for the insight

1. The capacitive touch screens in our phones aren't designed to recognize fingerprints. Besides, finger print readers can be easily fooled by laser toner and a picture of your finger print, as MythBusters showed.
2. Face recognition can be fooled using a photo of you.
The face recognition is mostly a gimmick, it's not meant to be a security feature as much as a balance of ease-of-use / security. It offers some security while making it vastly easier to unlock your phone, not involving hands.
The most secure is a long password/code.

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jnadke said:
1. The capacitive touch screens in our phones aren't designed to recognize fingerprints. Besides, finger print readers can be easily fooled by laser toner and a picture of your finger print, as MythBusters showed.
2. Face recognition can be fooled using a photo of you.
The face recognition is mostly a gimmick, it's not meant to be a security feature as much as a balance of ease-of-use / security. It offers some security while making it vastly easier to unlock your phone, not involving hands.
The most secure is a long password/code.
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+1 to this! Biometrics are hard to get right. If they are too restrictive, you can't even unlock your own device. Some of the better systems involve long pins (8+, preferably 10+) and a number display board that randomizes each time. That keeps greasy fingerprints on the screen from disclosing anything and people will have a hard time guessing or watching you type your pin.

I'm just curious as to what some of you guys store on your phones that warrants such high level security? It's gotta be more than some nudes. Nuclear reactor plans, bomb schematics, presidential schedules...?
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TNTRMSKD said:
I'm just curious as to what some of you guys store on your phones that warrants such high level security? It's gotta be more than some nudes. Nuclear reactor plans, bomb schematics, presidential schedules...?
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Right? I mean, I understand if they're CIA material but this is a little ridiculous lol. I don't think I need a long pass on my Epic. I highly doubt anyone is going to try and use brute force to figure out my pass. Not that it isn't possible, but there's just no gain.
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Super secure = super pain in the ...
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TNTRMSKD said:
I'm just curious as to what some of you guys store on your phones that warrants such high level security? It's gotta be more than some nudes. Nuclear reactor plans, bomb schematics, presidential schedules...?
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Who cares? If someone wants a secure phone, that is their agenda. Android is built as an open system so people can configure their phone how they see fit. Unfortunately there aren't many secure lockscreens that can't be fooled, other than the swipe pattern and pin key.
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Well, how about this? Is it possible to have a lockscreen that reads only gestures? And you can make a gesture that unlocks the phone, seemingly endless possibilities for an unlock, but very simple, as it can be any gesture you please.

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"Fingerprint" screen unlock?!

What with MIUI making lock screens customizable, and the EVO gods somehow automatically knowing what every thread is about without reading them....
How cool, would a lock screen that looked like a "theatrical" biometric scanner, wherein the user need touch and hold where the "scanner" is for a few seconds for the phone to unlock.
Anyone else have any neat lock screen ideas?
Unlocked by your face captured on front camera.
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Yea, but I don't think I can say those here.
Thats already been done on the iphone. In fact there is a few apps like that.
Pretty sure these already exist... maybe this one?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hezapps.finger_security_scanner
A real fingerprint scanner lockscreen would be too freaky, speaking from a security standpoint. I'm sure the government will issue phones like that some time in the near-future, to safeguard us all from 'terrorism'.
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I don't think the OP was talking about a real fingerprint reader. The Evo's screen isn't capable of capturing that anyway. The idea of an unlock screen that looks like a fingerprint reader does sound kind of cool, although if it worked by just holding your finger in one spot while it "scans," it might be too easy to unlock it by mistake.
thegregbradley said:
Pretty sure these already exist... maybe this one?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.hezapps.finger_security_scanner
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Yeah I thats the one I thought of. That's like exactly what he's talking about. It pretends to read your fingerprint to unlock your phone. It's kinda cool, but loses its novelty.
decayer177 said:
Unlocked by your face captured on front camera.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=visidon.AppLock&feature=search_result
only works as a ''lockscreen'' if you use a replacement launcher like adw, LPP, etc and choose the launcher as a locked app.
works fairly well after several training photos are taken in all sorts of settings and light, but is just too slow for my tastes... although i am excited too see how much better it gets, as it could be a serious consideration after further development
that's awesome! Thanks for the link! Totally what I was thinking. Face recognition by the camera would be cool too, although my front face camera got spooky 6+ months ago, so I don't know if that would ever work...
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Unlocked by your face captured on front camera.
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This would be very cool. Just improve on the facial lock that comes with the camera and we be good to go.

Face Unlock

I'm not on the official OTA bc I'm on the NS4G, but am I the only person that can only get face lock to work 1/27th of the time? I have tried time after time to make better captures of my face and done the face lock improvement countless times, and I have no beard. I almost look retarded how still and perfect I sit with my phone at direct eye level with my face. Its really upsetting :\ I have tried multiple ROMs and the same result with all of them. I always get 'Sorry, don't recognize you' or 'Couldn't find a face' and it makes me wanna smash it, because this was my most anticipated and exciting feature of ICS. Any suggestions or is anyone in my boat?
Same here. Seems like the time taken for the camera to adjust to the light is too long for FaceUnlock to recognize a face. Sad really.
I have tried Face Unlock on Peter Alfonso's ROM and though not perfect it was surprisingly good. It would work 7 out of 10 times.
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Try the app "visidon" its free off market and I was using it on gingerbread flawlessly way before ics came out.
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I installed face unlock on my stock ICS and it only works from time to time. I think that if someone changed the recognition time (so that the camera has more time to adjust), it might work better. But then again, it sometimes fails to recognize me even in environments where light isn't a problem (i.e. outside).
I think that, with the Nexus S, face unlock is more of a hit & miss thing. Sometimes, for example it gets it right 18/20.
Works ok when
outside but inside good luck
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Rooster85 said:
Try the app "visidon" its free off market and I was using it on gingerbread flawlessly way before ics came out.
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+1 Visidon
Iv'e been using Visidon since before ICS and it works great.
Google was not including Face Unlock on the official releases of ICS for the Nexus S because the resolution of the front facing camera is not strong enough for Face Unlock to work satisfactorily in their eyes.
Having used it on a few different ROMs now, I'm tending to agree with them.
The stock ICS face unlock works fine for me. FYI, you have to make sure you take multiple training shots in different lighting conditions if you want it to be reliable.
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When I first installed Pete Alfonso's ROM from a full wipe, I had Face Unlock. Then when I restored apps and data from Titanium, it's gone. I also have the Screen Lock options for None and Slide grayed out with "Disabled by administrator, encryption policy, or credential storage". Any idea what app or setting would cause that?
Logomotph said:
I installed face unlock on my stock ICS and it only works from time to time. I think that if someone changed the recognition time (so that the camera has more time to adjust), it might work better. But then again, it sometimes fails to recognize me even in environments where light isn't a problem (i.e. outside).
I think that, with the Nexus S, face unlock is more of a hit & miss thing. Sometimes, for example it gets it right 18/20.
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LOL the recognition time I think may be what screws me. The time is soooo long already on here, much longer and my arm would lose circulation. It is hard for me to hold the phone in the exact same position for very long. And thank you to the rest of you, I will try Visidon.

face unlock for evo 4g

I have searched alot on xda, android community, Google, and some other sites but have not seen anything about face unlock being ported to the evo. I have seen some post of it being questioned for the 3d but nothing on the 4g. so I was just wondering if y'all had any input, news, or even gossip about as I think the feature would be great.... but obviously don't have my hopes up as jaredthegreat just got to beata stage on his ics and deck is still in alpha. any comments are welcome
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I think this may be what you are looking for...
sknight13602 said:
I have searched alot on xda, android community, Google, and some other sites but have not seen anything about face unlock being ported to the evo. I have seen some post of it being questioned for the 3d but nothing on the 4g. so I was just wondering if y'all had any input, news, or even gossip about as I think the feature would be great.... but obviously don't have my hopes up as jaredthegreat just got to beata stage on his ics and Jared is still in alpha. any comments are welcome
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I found this awhile back...tried it for a long while...seems really cool!
HERE
If I helped in anyway please hit the "THANKS" button below!
Considering the front camera is still not working on any ICS build that I know of for the Evo4G, I wouldn't think it would be talked about much as one would definitely be important for the other.
This doesn't seem like it would be all that secure. Does it distinguish between your real face or a picture of your face that can be placed in front of the camera?
It scans and maps features on your face.
And to the OP, until the front camera is working in any ICS rom, we wont have it. It cant be ported to a Gingerbread rom.
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sitlet said:
It scans and maps features on your face.
And to the OP, until the front camera is working in any ICS rom, we wont have it. It cant be ported to a Gingerbread rom.
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Facial recognition is nice, but really easy to bypass. Japan tried facial recognition in cigarette vending machines to determine age, and kids just ended up holding up pictures of older people to bypass. Still works on the ICS facelock. Until they incorporate multi angle unlocks, it will be too easy to bypass for my liking.
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Facial recognition will never be truly secure until the photo sensors can map in 3d to differentiate between a 2d and 3d image or until they incorporate a laser scanner that scans the 3d texture of a face along with the photo recognition
We are legion, for we are many.
Well, if you could get the software to recognize a partial sweep (as in turning your head from left to right), then that would be a bit more secure. Or at least have it take 3 screen captures (3/4 right, dead on, and 3/4 left) then it would be a bit more difficult to bypass.
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Yeah its still being worked on by the devs, but it is really nothing more then a party gab, I wouldn't use it, the new ics face unlock could be defeated by a picture, so it really isnt secure...but yeah

I GOT ICS!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUST PUSHED
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and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
baseballfanz said:
and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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No sir! I woke up, and looked at my pad (for clock) and it said firmware update
baseballfanz said:
and did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22871384
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I did Here it is
Yep, I was watching video when it asked me to update. Took around 10 minutes and kept all the data so everything functioned just like before. Except it looked better and the speed is amazing. Only down side that there is no face lock which I m hoping they will come up with an update!
Very satisfied customer here! Unlike my LG Optimus 2X phone which i m not expecting to get an update EVER.
Check if you have face lock
Its the us version right?
phillybizzle said:
No sir! I woke up, and looked at my pad (for clock) and it said firmware update
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Well i guess you're not going back to sleep anytime soon.
coolface said:
Yep, I was watching video when it asked me to update. Took around 10 minutes and kept all the data so everything functioned just like before. Except it looked better and the speed is amazing. Only down side that there is no face lock which I m hoping they will come up with an update!
Very satisfied customer here! Unlike my LG Optimus 2X phone which i m not expecting to get an update EVER.
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Face unlock is a gimmick anyways..I have it on my phone, you usually end up having to type in your pin or pattern anyways, it is a negligible feature.
I should have factory reset before updating, that first reboot regenerating everything loaded (I guess) is taking a LONG time.
Shadow_Android said:
Check if you have face lock
Its the us version right?
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yah i have it under security
WHOA! Look at that notification bar!!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
Jyveafk said:
WHOA! Look at that notification bar!!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
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LMAO that's the first thing I noticed too..I was like OMG SHINY!!! (moth to a flame)
luna_c666 said:
Face unlock is a gimmick anyways..I have it on my phone, you usually end up having to type in your pin or pattern anyways, it is a negligible feature.
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Wrong. I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and in 4.0.3 there's an option to improve face unlock. Just scan your face in different light, with/without glasses (if you have to wear) and in different angles (holding the phone in eye height, looking down on phone and so on) and face unlock works nearly everywhere except in total darkness. I took the time once and scanned about 30-40 situations, now face unlock works flawless.
I got it too, east coast DC area
How big?
Hi,
Can someone tell me what size it is? Want to see whether it is worth downloading or waiting till tonight?
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Wrong. I have it on my Galaxy Nexus and in 4.0.3 there's an option to improve face unlock. Just scan your face in different light, with/without glasses (if you have to wear) and in different angles (holding the phone in eye height, looking down on phone and so on) and face unlock works nearly everywhere except in total darkness. I took the time once and scanned about 30-40 situations, now face unlock works flawless.
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I know this, but I have tried this, it still gives me 'no face found' or 'unable to recognize' failures often. Not to mention that it's just a major PITA to hold any device in a single position for it to recognize you (very unsafe while driving), and it takes a full 2-3 seconds longer to unlock than simply swiping in your pattern, which is the fallback if it doesn't recognize you anyway. I have not found a good use for it yet (presumably, wouldn't a photo of you work anyway? And isn't it easier for a criminal to get a picture of your face than to guess your pattern?)
Just saying, impractical gimmick. Fun to play with, but for anyone who uses their device often, they will get tired of looking at themselves while the device tries to recognize them..IMHO, FWIW
Is this true
Am I understood right that you have got factory update for stock ROM?
If so that is pity - I am on custom ROM
Or we all just wait until some able Dev creates a CWM recovery-flashable version :beer:
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Barcors said:
Am I understood right that you have got factory update for stock ROM?
If so that is pity - I am on custom ROM
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You can go back to stock You aren't stuck there lol just see the link in my sig (from the sounds of it though, you are still pretty green, and need to do A LOT of reading IMO before trying to do too much at once, you also need to determine if you are SBK1 or SBK2, my guide will help you determine this.)
Not a huge difference visually but huge performance boost!
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Fingerprint - Unlocking from Always On Screen

Does the fingerprint unlock require that you press the home button? From my understanding, you only needed to place your finger on the home button for it to unlock.
alexc1992 said:
Does the fingerprint unlock require that you press the home button? From my understanding, you only needed to place your finger on the home button for it to unlock.
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Always on acts as the screen was off, so yes, you have to press the home button first, but you can just leave it on the button after pressing and it will unlock straight away.
Or, you can activate the edge screen by swiping at the edge, when the edge screen comes up (AOD would disappear) , place your finger on the scanner, and the screen would unlock
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
ethan3686 said:
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
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it will then has huge battery drain
emprize said:
it will then has huge battery drain
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Well, if a hardware component is designed to be always-on, it will not drain the battery. For example, the edge swipe will not drain the battery although it keeps the touch controller on. On the LG G5 and Nexus 6P the fingerprint sensor is always-on and does not drain the battery.
However, if Samsung did not design their sensor to be always-on, then there is not much that can be done via a software update.
ethan3686 said:
I really hope samsung brings an update to just unlock the phone by placing the finger on the home button. No pressing and all. It feels so much better like that on iphone and nexus.
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They, won't. That is how their phones work, by design.
I prefer it that way, but I can understand that you can't please everyone.
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JasonJoel said:
They, won't. That is how their phones work, by design. I prefer it that way, but I can understand that you can't please everyone.
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Well, how about a simple setting to switch between the two modes. If the hardware is designed for always-on, it can surely work when pressing the home button first.
Yes, but when they add options/toggles all over the place then a bunch of people complain that it is too bloated or complicated... They can't win either way.
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Yes, but when they add options/toggles all over the place then a bunch of people complain that it is too bloated or complicated... They can't win either way.
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I do know I'm reviving a severely old thread but honestly can't give two ****s. If you're here to complain about it being revived go ***** and moan to the mods.
Anyways. Glad we got that out of that way.
Here's the flaw in that logic.
1. Most people like extra features. I.e. literally ****ing everyone on xda
2. Even if bull**** did arise (which it wouldn't) they could just move it to developer options. That **** on there is basically all useless anyways.
And 3. It's not "adding options and toggles all over the place". It's 1. Signle. Toggle. Honestly I couldn't care if they had a toggle for that or not but it just pissed me off that you were so keen on shutting this idea down and op didn't even respond to you. Dickhole.
Edit: P.s. excuse my french.
Zoruda said:
I do know I'm reviving a severely old thread but honestly can't give two ****s. If you're here to complain about it being revived go ***** and moan to the mods.
Anyways. Glad we got that out of that way.
Here's the flaw in that logic.
1. Most people like extra features. I.e. literally ****ing everyone on xda
2. Even if bull**** did arise (which it wouldn't) they could just move it to developer options. That **** on there is basically all useless anyways.
And 3. It's not "adding options and toggles all over the place". It's 1. Signle. Toggle. Honestly I couldn't care if they had a toggle for that or not but it just pissed me off that you were so keen on shutting this idea down and op didn't even respond to you. Dickhole.
Edit: P.s. excuse my french.
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First, name calling is childish, and often a sign of low intelligence. That might not be true of you, but that is how it comes across in writing.
To comment on your points:
1. Most people on XDA, yes, which is a super small minority of all users. It has been shown many times that average consumers (the overall majority by almost 10:1) want products simpler.
2. I agree that a good way to handle additional options would be to shove them in a separate developer or advanced settings area.
3. Noted. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Just don't assume your opinion matches what the majority of the overall population want.
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That's not an opinion. That's a fact. It's 1 toggle. Just one. It's not like they're opening another section in the settings. Just one toggle. And if they want simpler phones they can go to iPhone. That's what iPhone is for. The technologically uninclined. OP is just talking about one single toggle that will let you choose between one option or another. It's not even that hard to code in. I highly doubt that not almost everyone wants more settings. More settings is great! You can make your phone your phone! You can have it do exactly what you want. Whether it be consuming extra power for a fingerprint scanner or conserving it. Hell put it in the toggles for powersaving so when they turn power saving on the fingerprint turns off until it's clicked. Literally so many ways you could go about this. You could make it so the scanner is on between 8am and 10pm but off at night. You could make it so if the phone hasn't been touched within an hour the scanner turns off. There's no reason not to have extra features. Unless you're super old. Then I think you'd want less features. That's what easy mode is for. (oh and apple is for that too. That's why so many old lady's have iPhones and so many old men have Android's. I would guess at least)
Edit: I also only called you a dickhole because I was pissed that you shot this dude's idea down until he gave up. You were just being a dickhole to him. So that's why I said that.

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