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I Want Permroot, but no go?

Nothing happens when I click "attempt perm root"...absolutely nothing. What the F is going on?

bballcat03 said:
Nothing happens when I click "attempt perm root"...absolutely nothing. What the F is going on?
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You have to follow steps to unlock the bootloader (achieving S-off) before perm root will stick. Read the thread on achieving S-off. Don't do anything you don't fully understand, so read a lot. Afaik visionary does not perm root with one click without first having an unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Read the resource bible. It's a sticky in the dev forum.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

I have s-off with 0.85.2007...everything works like a charm until I get to the permroot part...nothing happens when I hit it.

bballcat03 said:
I have s-off with 0.85.2007...everything works like a charm until I get to the permroot part...nothing happens when I hit it.
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If you have s-off and you have the eng 2007 bootloader, you're rooted. Make sure you have the superuser app installed to your phone. If not, you can get it from the market. You need it to gain root privileges in apps. If you have superuser you can test root by opening terminal emulator. Type su and hit enter. If you get a root request confirm it. The $ symbol should change to #.
You shouldn't need visionary anymore. Once you confirm root, uninstall it.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

But without doing "permroot" in visionary, it's not permanent, correct? Cause I want it permanent, not temp.
Yes I have superuser installed.

bballcat03 said:
But without doing "permroot" in visionary, it's not permanent, correct? Cause I want it permanent, not temp.
Yes I have superuser installed.
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Try what I said with terminal. If you type su and hit enter, you should see a #. If you do, congrats. Reboot and test terminal su command to see if your root sticks. Visionary won't tell you if you're rooted.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

Ok I redid everything again (without doing "attempt permroot") and did what you said and the $ changed to #...however, when I first did the temp root, and then went into terminal to do the:
- su
- "cd /data/local" etc....it changed from a $ to a # as well then...before I got to the end and rebooted.
So I am permrooted then and can change roms? Why didn't I have to do "attempt permroot" in visionary?

The unlocked.com
Precise...simple..quick...easy...works...
Hope it helps!
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h0wlings0nnets said:
The unlocked.com
Precise...simple..quick...easy...works...
Hope it helps!
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Uh, that's not a website!

Like I said, you were already rooted. When you attempt perm root with Visionary, I don't think it tells you anything. Just make sure your root sticks by rebooting and then typing su in terminal. If you get the #, you can uninstall Visionary.
As for flashing ROMs: You need to flash a new recovery in order to make Nandroid backups and flash ROMs. Clockwork ROM Manager from the market will allow you to flash Clockwork Recovery on your phone. I don't know how much experience you have with flashing ROMs in general, but if you're a novice in any way I wouldn't start changing your system just yet. Read the resource bible, lurk the developer threads, and get a firm grasp on what you are doing. Get familiar with ADB and Fastboot. Be totally confident in your knowledge. You can still brick your phone or at the very least give yourself an unneeded heart attack and hours of troubleshooting sh!t.
Resource Bible
Good luck and congrats on root!

Yeah I am looking at the "how to flash a rom for noobs" thread out of the resource bible...it says "In the hboot menu select recovery and then the phone will restart. You will get a phone with yellow triangle error."
I select recovery and another screen came up regarding the clockwork with a bunch of options, it didn't restart. And when I selected the option that said "reboot" it did, but I didn't get a yellow triangle error
Any ideas there?

Sounds to me you already have Clockwork Recovery installed. You must have done that without knowing it. Beats me. I you go into HBOOT and select Recovery the phone will shut off and boot into recovery mode. If you got Clockwork Recovery version 2.x.x.x (with green typeface), that just means you have Clockwork recovery installed and can flash Froyo based ROMs (like Iced Glacier), make Nandroid backups, and a bunch of other stuff you probably shouldn't mess with.
Just know that you CANNOT flash Gingerbread based ROMs (like CyanogenMod 7) with CW v. 2.x.x.x
You need CW v. 3.x.x.x to use gingy ROMs.
Keep reading.

I PM'd ya, but no when I hboot and hit recovery, it doesn't reboot, it goes to "clockwork mod recovery v2.5.1.2

XfooYen said:
You have to follow steps to unlock the bootloader (achieving S-off) before perm root will stick. Read the thread on achieving S-off. Don't do anything you don't fully understand, so read a lot. Afaik visionary does not perm root with one click without first having an unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Read the resource bible. It's a sticky in the dev forum.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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I'm having the same issue as the OP. I'm quoting because I had a permroot stick with s-on on my previous MT4G. (I just had it replaced, damn power button)
Explain please? Why would it work on one but not the other?

I would have posted this in the development forum in the thread that had this technique, but I don't have enough posts yet or something?
Anyway, I have S=off, and visionary temp root works fine. But permroot in visionary r14 doesn't work, it just flashes like the button is pushed then does nothing, like I didn't even hit it. So I need to run the temp root everytime my phone starts up.
I didn't setup the engineer bootloader yet, should I do that?
Does r11 work better?
What is the next step to get permroot to work?

[Q] Perm Root Method

Alright, so I doubt this goes here but it wont let me post to the perm root thread so.
I have flashed everything properly according to the steps in the Perm Root Thread, all the MD5 Sums come up correct. I load up the bootloader like it says in Step 6 but instead of it being S-OFF it remains S-ON. I went ahead and tried to get the perm root from both Visionary and Z4 to take, but no dice.
Any ideas?

Kokoroiki said:
Alright, so I doubt this goes here but it wont let me post to the perm root thread so.
I have flashed everything properly according to the steps in the Perm Root Thread, all the MD5 Sums come up correct. I load up the bootloader like it says in Step 6 but instead of it being S-OFF it remains S-ON. I went ahead and tried to get the perm root from both Visionary and Z4 to take, but no dice.
Any ideas?
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Unistall Superuser and then temp root with Visionary. Once temp root takes run perm root. Then reboot in the bootloader.

Yeah I have tried that a few times and it still won't take.
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I managed to fix this issue on my own. Wound up restoring the phone to the factory hboot and re-flashing everything.

[Q] S =-off, no Visionary won't let me root

I used visionary to temp root/root. followed all the instructions in visionary and terminal emulator. when I restarted the phone it showed S off, I went to visionary to perm root and it say's I have to temp root my phone?? I rooted my other mytouch 4g the same way and it worked so I don't know what's wrong Im pretty sure i'm not doing anything wrong

Once you get s off and boot up you don't have su permissions so you need to temproot and then permroot immediately after to complete the root process
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I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out

King350z said:
I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
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When you try to use root access is it not allowing it? Open up something like root explorer that asks for root access and see if it works. If it does then it sounds like it worked.

No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...

King350z said:
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
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Do you have the SuperUser icon?

bootloader? Here's the root guide
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**

thepza said:
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
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All phones come with the .86.xxxx bootloader, you cannot load the .85.xxxx bootloader to the phone till after one has rooted and s-off'd the phone.
as quoted from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14573409&postcount=15
there are two ways to root our phones.
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
2) ./gfree, regardless of what VISIONary or ./gfree package you use. This will root your phone regardless if you have a good or bad chip. you are setting yourself up to be royally screwed down the road, if you use root.sh it fails multiple times. Then use ./gfree to root it.
you are correct in the assumption that ./gfree will root your phone no matter what. But it will brick you phone if you have a bad eMMC. It might not happen right away, it might not happen in a week, or a month. But it's coming. There are thousands of threads all over the webs of people with bricked phone who use ./gfree to root their devices with a bad eMMC. there are significantly less threads of people who use root.sh and have bricked their phones.
advising someone to use ./gfree after they've admitted that root.sh didn't work, multiple times, w/o a fair warning is ignorant and not really helping anyone. a rooted phone is nice, a bricked device is totally different....

Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
neidlinger said:
Do you have the SuperUser icon?
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King350z said:
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
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settings > applications > all > search for super user > delete the icon > reboot the phone > try visionary again.
Try that, it should help.

neidlinger said:
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
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Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.

delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?

King350z said:
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.

thepza said:
Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
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you have no clue what i'm saying.
VISIONary will not perma root a phone at all. You must manually turn s-off. You need to do that one of two ways. Either with the root.sh or the ./gfree method. both of which use VISIONary in their independent process. root.sh will not root bad eMMC phones. ./gfree will root either or without a problem.

will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
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King350z said:
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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That's why i said earlier to reboot after you delete the superuser.apk. It will clean all of the current cache out.

Thank you for the help, will try it out when i get a chance later tonight or tomorrow, hope it works

[Q] SU wont stick?

just rooted using the gfree method. i have root after a reboot but everytime i enter an app it asks for permission even after i granted it before and made sure remember was checked. help?

unisnstall and reinstall superuser and undate binary and see if that fixes it. if it doesnt, hold volume down plus power to check if youre s-off.

uninstalled then reinstalled and when i try to update the binaries, it tries to gain root access and it always fails?

as soon as i reinstalled su everything fails to gain root access. i have s-off and the eng bootloader. wtf is going on

CreepyE said:
as soon as i reinstalled su everything fails to gain root access. i have s-off and the eng bootloader. wtf is going on
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hmmm, so you gained s-off through the gfree method but dont have su permissions. which leads me to believe youre on gingerbread 2.3 which is not rootable unless you downgrade first.
i been reading around of some people getting s-off on gingerbread with gfree but you also need to be rooted as well which you cant do on gingerbread. thats probably your problem.

im on 2.2.1

CreepyE said:
im on 2.2.1
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try to root using the visionary.apk, since you are on 2.2.1. this time, you should be able to get perm root as the phone is S-off

Help With my Rooting

I am having a mytouch 4g now running stock rom 2.1. The phone came with S-Off. So if i download the 2.3 update, would it turn my phone back to S-on???
Also does the S-Off mean that if i want to root the phone, i would just need to flash the superuser.zip? or what???
Or Where will i continue from in case i want to root the phone. Also my device is "M4G2DE".
THANKS

I would just grab one of the rooted, debloated stock ROMs from the dev section. The answer to your question about retaining S-Off depends on the method used to achieve S-Off. If root.sh was used, then no. If gfree was used you will keep S-Off.
If you have S-Off then, yes, you can just flash superuser or supersu and the binary.
Edit: Here is Stock 2.3.4 rooted and debloated. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438395

estallings15 said:
I would just grab one of the rooted, debloated stock ROMs from the dev section. The answer to your question about retaining S-Off depends on the method used to achieve S-Off. If root.sh was used, then no. If gfree was used you will keep S-Off.
If you have S-Off then, yes, you can just flash superuser or supersu and the binary.
Edit: Here is Stock 2.3.4 rooted and debloated. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438395
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Thanks but when i got the phone, it already had S-Off. So i cant tell how it was done. Or can u help me with how i can detect how S-off was done on my device????
I have temprooted it with visionary and also have superuser and terminal emulator installed.
And when i boot into bootloader mode then to recovery, all i see is a phone with with a triangle and an exclamation mark. Does that mean i dont have a recovery???
Thanks

mickeyasamoah said:
Thanks but when i got the phone, it already had S-Off. So i cant tell how it was done. Or can u help me with how i can detect how S-off was done on my device????
I have temprooted it with visionary and also have superuser and terminal emulator installed.
And when i boot into bootloader mode then to recovery, all i see is a phone with with a triangle and an exclamation mark. Does that mean i dont have a recovery???
Thanks
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Most likely it means someone rooted with gfree and flashed the froyo PD15IMG.zip before selling it. The triangle with an exclamation mark is the stock recovery.
Use the permanent root option in visionary to get root. If it doesn't work the first time, reboot and try again. Then use the sticky in the dev section to flash cwm in Terminal Emulator. Alternatively, you can use ROM Manager to flash it.
I would like to recommend 4EXT Recovery Touch. It's amazing. There is a free app to install it online, but the paid app is better. Check Google Play.

estallings15 said:
Most likely it means someone rooted with gfree and flashed the froyo PD15IMG.zip before selling it. The triangle with an exclamation mark is the stock recovery.
Use the permanent root option in visionary to get root. If it doesn't work the first time, reboot and try again. Then use the sticky in the dev section to flash cwm in Terminal Emulator. Alternatively, you can use ROM Manager to flash it.
I would like to recommend 4EXT Recovery Touch. It's amazing. There is a free app to install it online, but the paid app is better. Check Google Play.
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I appriciate your help estallings15 but i have been doing some reading here on xda and i read from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021)
shou i use this method??? Cause i already have S-Off and they are aslo saying it will give me S-Off after applying that method. Does that mean that after applying that method my S-Off would turn to S-On??
And i almost forgot, i cant find the thanks buttom to thank u. If u can atleast show me where it is i would thank u. And sorry for posting two of the same tread. I posted something some other time and no one replied so i taught posting it twice would catch peoples attention. Am sorry i broke the rules

mickeyasamoah said:
I appriciate your help estallings15 but i have been doing some reading here on xda and i read from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021)
shou i use this method??? Cause i already have S-Off and they are aslo saying it will give me S-Off after applying that method. Does that mean that after applying that method my S-Off would turn to S-On??
And i almost forgot, i cant find the thanks buttom to thank u. If u can atleast show me where it is i would thank u. And sorry for posting two of the same tread. I posted something some other time and no one replied so i taught posting it twice would catch peoples attention. Am sorry i broke the rules
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No. Getting S-On is a lot more complicated than all that. Just use the method I told you. It'll work. I have rooted 3 mytouch 4G's that way. S-Off is the hard part. You have it already. Just use visionary to get perm root, then flash a recovery.
Also, if you're in a browser, the "Thanks" button is in the lower left hand corner of a post.