[Q] SU wont stick? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

just rooted using the gfree method. i have root after a reboot but everytime i enter an app it asks for permission even after i granted it before and made sure remember was checked. help?

unisnstall and reinstall superuser and undate binary and see if that fixes it. if it doesnt, hold volume down plus power to check if youre s-off.

uninstalled then reinstalled and when i try to update the binaries, it tries to gain root access and it always fails?

as soon as i reinstalled su everything fails to gain root access. i have s-off and the eng bootloader. wtf is going on

CreepyE said:
as soon as i reinstalled su everything fails to gain root access. i have s-off and the eng bootloader. wtf is going on
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hmmm, so you gained s-off through the gfree method but dont have su permissions. which leads me to believe youre on gingerbread 2.3 which is not rootable unless you downgrade first.
i been reading around of some people getting s-off on gingerbread with gfree but you also need to be rooted as well which you cant do on gingerbread. thats probably your problem.

im on 2.2.1

CreepyE said:
im on 2.2.1
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try to root using the visionary.apk, since you are on 2.2.1. this time, you should be able to get perm root as the phone is S-off

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rooted ota

Will there be a rooted ota for people who didn't install it or never got it. I rooted my phone and would like the better radio in hopes I will get more cell bars
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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Sv3nt3k said:
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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i dont understand what u mean i have perm root without the ota. If i install the ota it will break root. Will i have to go thru the whole process again if i do this? I know on the mytouchslide when they came out with an ota they just rooted it so it wouldnt break the current root
i havent tried perm root yet. however search this site for 'visionary' root, which is all u really need for now. i had visionary root installed along with several root only apps (titanium backup, cachemate, setcpu, several others) and the OTA installed while my phone was rooted with absolutely no problems.
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
lol
the "#" denotes root access lol...... (coming from a marginal linux background..)
richierich118 said:
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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Have you tried reapplying s-off?
I am also interested in getting a solution because right before I rooted my phone I started getting ota update notifications for my phone and now I cant upgrade my phone but the notifications continue to persist. So I figure if I can get a rooted update or delete something, I can get rid of notifications.
ok i got it working what i did was do what somesaid in the begining and that was to follow the guide that doesnt use visionary for perm root. I think its call temp to perm root. I always had the s-off just not the perm root. everything is fine now
At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
Sv3nt3k said:
At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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I didnt use clockworks recover i used the orginal. It just made me loose root and not s-off so i used the temp-too-perm root to get it back because visionary was saying my phone was already rooted. I believe I was getting this cause i had rooted without the ota the first time. The second time i used the ota.ko Instead of the preota.ko because i used this when i didnt update to the ota on the first run.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that. I'm currently in the same boat you were in. I applied the OTA and it's reporting S-OFF, Visionary is saying I'm rooted, but certain things aren't working.
In the process of getting it fixed.
EDIT: Went through the same process you did and I'm all good to go. I was able to apply the OTA update after rooting it and then re-rooted it.
so how exactly did you root you perma root your phone again after ota.
i have perma root right now, its pre-ota, i do want to install ota though.. would i have to go back and do the manual perma-root with the "ota" files now instead of the other ones. im just confused and want to clear this up before i do anything stupid. thanks!

I Want Permroot, but no go?

Nothing happens when I click "attempt perm root"...absolutely nothing. What the F is going on?
bballcat03 said:
Nothing happens when I click "attempt perm root"...absolutely nothing. What the F is going on?
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You have to follow steps to unlock the bootloader (achieving S-off) before perm root will stick. Read the thread on achieving S-off. Don't do anything you don't fully understand, so read a lot. Afaik visionary does not perm root with one click without first having an unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Read the resource bible. It's a sticky in the dev forum.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
I have s-off with 0.85.2007...everything works like a charm until I get to the permroot part...nothing happens when I hit it.
bballcat03 said:
I have s-off with 0.85.2007...everything works like a charm until I get to the permroot part...nothing happens when I hit it.
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If you have s-off and you have the eng 2007 bootloader, you're rooted. Make sure you have the superuser app installed to your phone. If not, you can get it from the market. You need it to gain root privileges in apps. If you have superuser you can test root by opening terminal emulator. Type su and hit enter. If you get a root request confirm it. The $ symbol should change to #.
You shouldn't need visionary anymore. Once you confirm root, uninstall it.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
But without doing "permroot" in visionary, it's not permanent, correct? Cause I want it permanent, not temp.
Yes I have superuser installed.
bballcat03 said:
But without doing "permroot" in visionary, it's not permanent, correct? Cause I want it permanent, not temp.
Yes I have superuser installed.
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Try what I said with terminal. If you type su and hit enter, you should see a #. If you do, congrats. Reboot and test terminal su command to see if your root sticks. Visionary won't tell you if you're rooted.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
Ok I redid everything again (without doing "attempt permroot") and did what you said and the $ changed to #...however, when I first did the temp root, and then went into terminal to do the:
- su
- "cd /data/local" etc....it changed from a $ to a # as well then...before I got to the end and rebooted.
So I am permrooted then and can change roms? Why didn't I have to do "attempt permroot" in visionary?
The unlocked.com
Precise...simple..quick...easy...works...
Hope it helps!
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h0wlings0nnets said:
The unlocked.com
Precise...simple..quick...easy...works...
Hope it helps!
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Uh, that's not a website!
Like I said, you were already rooted. When you attempt perm root with Visionary, I don't think it tells you anything. Just make sure your root sticks by rebooting and then typing su in terminal. If you get the #, you can uninstall Visionary.
As for flashing ROMs: You need to flash a new recovery in order to make Nandroid backups and flash ROMs. Clockwork ROM Manager from the market will allow you to flash Clockwork Recovery on your phone. I don't know how much experience you have with flashing ROMs in general, but if you're a novice in any way I wouldn't start changing your system just yet. Read the resource bible, lurk the developer threads, and get a firm grasp on what you are doing. Get familiar with ADB and Fastboot. Be totally confident in your knowledge. You can still brick your phone or at the very least give yourself an unneeded heart attack and hours of troubleshooting sh!t.
Resource Bible
Good luck and congrats on root!
Yeah I am looking at the "how to flash a rom for noobs" thread out of the resource bible...it says "In the hboot menu select recovery and then the phone will restart. You will get a phone with yellow triangle error."
I select recovery and another screen came up regarding the clockwork with a bunch of options, it didn't restart. And when I selected the option that said "reboot" it did, but I didn't get a yellow triangle error
Any ideas there?
Sounds to me you already have Clockwork Recovery installed. You must have done that without knowing it. Beats me. I you go into HBOOT and select Recovery the phone will shut off and boot into recovery mode. If you got Clockwork Recovery version 2.x.x.x (with green typeface), that just means you have Clockwork recovery installed and can flash Froyo based ROMs (like Iced Glacier), make Nandroid backups, and a bunch of other stuff you probably shouldn't mess with.
Just know that you CANNOT flash Gingerbread based ROMs (like CyanogenMod 7) with CW v. 2.x.x.x
You need CW v. 3.x.x.x to use gingy ROMs.
Keep reading.
I PM'd ya, but no when I hboot and hit recovery, it doesn't reboot, it goes to "clockwork mod recovery v2.5.1.2
XfooYen said:
You have to follow steps to unlock the bootloader (achieving S-off) before perm root will stick. Read the thread on achieving S-off. Don't do anything you don't fully understand, so read a lot. Afaik visionary does not perm root with one click without first having an unlocked bootloader.
EDIT: Read the resource bible. It's a sticky in the dev forum.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G
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I'm having the same issue as the OP. I'm quoting because I had a permroot stick with s-on on my previous MT4G. (I just had it replaced, damn power button)
Explain please? Why would it work on one but not the other?
I would have posted this in the development forum in the thread that had this technique, but I don't have enough posts yet or something?
Anyway, I have S=off, and visionary temp root works fine. But permroot in visionary r14 doesn't work, it just flashes like the button is pushed then does nothing, like I didn't even hit it. So I need to run the temp root everytime my phone starts up.
I didn't setup the engineer bootloader yet, should I do that?
Does r11 work better?
What is the next step to get permroot to work?

[Q] Perm Root Method

Alright, so I doubt this goes here but it wont let me post to the perm root thread so.
I have flashed everything properly according to the steps in the Perm Root Thread, all the MD5 Sums come up correct. I load up the bootloader like it says in Step 6 but instead of it being S-OFF it remains S-ON. I went ahead and tried to get the perm root from both Visionary and Z4 to take, but no dice.
Any ideas?
Kokoroiki said:
Alright, so I doubt this goes here but it wont let me post to the perm root thread so.
I have flashed everything properly according to the steps in the Perm Root Thread, all the MD5 Sums come up correct. I load up the bootloader like it says in Step 6 but instead of it being S-OFF it remains S-ON. I went ahead and tried to get the perm root from both Visionary and Z4 to take, but no dice.
Any ideas?
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Unistall Superuser and then temp root with Visionary. Once temp root takes run perm root. Then reboot in the bootloader.
Yeah I have tried that a few times and it still won't take.
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I managed to fix this issue on my own. Wound up restoring the phone to the factory hboot and re-flashing everything.

s-off but not able to perm root.

I was able to get my phone to s-off permanently but its not rooted so I assume its partially rooted. When I try to us Rom Manager to install ClockworkMod it tells me the phone is not rooted. Do I have to push the root using ADB? Also to explain I used VISIONary+ version 14 with Astro to root the phone if that helps any. Now, when I try to perm root the phone with VISIONary+ it tells me I have to temp root and when I do that again it just stays in a loop, and doesn't really root it. I was able to get SU privileges in the beginning but not anymore.
I googled this issue but to much information was thrown out there so I do apologize for asking what may be a repeating question
I have the same issue.. I finally got s-off to stick and now i cant perm root plus i am not familiar using adb
Yeah I haven't bothered with pushing perm root with adb only because I want to make sure that this is common. Adb is actually really easy to use. As long as you follow and type the code exactly then all will be great.
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[Q] is this root real?

so...i finally got my phone rooted, i think. i used visionary after downgrading to 2.2.1, and i went into terminal, typed in su, and it gave me #. Just wondering, does this root stick? ie. if i start flashing, I'm not suddenly going to "lose root"...like is this as valid a root as using gfree?
regards
trev
rockr4Christ said:
so...i finally got my phone rooted, i think. i used visionary after downgrading to 2.2.1, and i went into terminal, typed in su, and it gave me #. Just wondering, does this root stick? ie. if i start flashing, I'm not suddenly going to "lose root"...like is this as valid a root as using gfree?
regards
trev
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if you only used the visionary app to root and not root.sh or gfree, then yes, you will lose root after a reboot. this kind of root is called a TEMP ROOT and that is all visionary.apk can give you if you haven't acquire S-Off with either the root.sh or gfree method.
I used the perm root, and i have rebooted it twice, and still have root... thats why I'm asking .
I would check s-on, or s-off, but I can't get into recovery (shows little red triangle). Should i flash an engineering boot loader if Im just going to flash CWM anyways?
Regards
Trevor
Ps, thank you for patience and helping a self admitted n00b out
rockr4Christ said:
I used the perm root, and i have rebooted it twice, and still have root... thats why I'm asking .
I would check s-on, or s-off, but I can't get into recovery (shows little red triangle). Should i flash an engineering boot loader if Im just going to flash CWM anyways?
Regards
Trevor
Ps, thank you for patience and helping a self admitted n00b out
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it shows if you have S-off in the bootloader
just power off your phone, and turn it on using the Power and Volume DOWN buttons.
IMO, i would flash the engineering bootloader, just to be on the safe side. who knows? someday it might save you
if i have helped, please hit thanks!
weird. i got it into hboot...and s'on. any ideas?
regards
trevor
rockr4Christ said:
weird. i got it into hboot...and s'on. any ideas?
regards
trevor
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which method of perm root did you use? root.sh or gfree?
i did the visionary perm root. isn't that the root.sh? i followed the guide here on the forums..
trev
rockr4Christ said:
i did the visionary perm root. isn't that the root.sh? i followed the guide here on the forums..
trev
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visionary and root.sh are two different things.
visionary only gives you root access while the root.sh script is the one that actually gives you the S-Off so that you can perm root.
here, try this link

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