A few days ago (practically an eternity in XDA years), nitsuj17 exposed the work of our favorite Uberdev as nothing more than a straight up kang of CM7 and his Espresso thread was locked. He got a lot of blowback for that (including some from me) because it temporarily put the kibosh our lulz. Of course, we were just kidding with our "thanks a lot nitsuj17!" posts, but he did decide not to expose more of the Uberdev's misdeeds for fear we might lose out on our lulz.
Now, however, our favorite Uberdev has a new thread for a "new" kernel, and we all rejoiced at having a fresh source of lulz. The problem with this is that he STILL has not learned his lesson - the "new" kernel is nothing more than comradesven's KGB kernel with a 1.9 Ghz OC state added. If you don't believe it, here's the proof: https://github.com/EnyoDEV/bada.
Is it worth the lulz to keep allowing this guy to kang someone else's work, add a few lines of code, and pass it off as something new? What if you put a lot of time and effort into a ROM, kernel, theme, or mod and this guy did it to you? Would it be enough that he credits you after several other forum members call him out? Should this guy be reported again, or should we just leave it alone so we can keep the entertainment in XDA? Your thoughts?
Edit: for the record, I have not reported him for this latest kang - I'll leave that decision up to you
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Eeh, I have reddit for lulz. If I was a mod he would be banned already. (but I'm not a mod and never will be...for good reason.
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At this point, I doubt anybody installs anything he releases. He has been discredited enough and yes he should be expelled from xda after his blatant kang of KGB.
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom"
sendan said:
Eeh, I have reddit for lulz. If I was a mod he would be banned already. (but I'm not a mod and never will be...for good reason.
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Yeah, but the lulz are becoming tired and repetitive.
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom"
And don't worry, we can still get tons of lulz without Enyo. There are plenty of noobs, stupid questions , misunderstandings, misinterpretations, and immaturity to keep the lulz going nonstop.
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect rom"
Not to go all White Knight on your assess or anything, but...
Doesn't Comradesven's thread state something along the lines of, "don't you DARE give me credit for this", and say anyone is free to use anything he has done??
I enjoy trollin' Enyo as much as the next guy, but go after him for the outright *lie* of 'espresso protection' or any of the multitudes of other crap?
...and now back to the lulz.
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Not to go all White Knight on your assess or anything, but...
Doesn't Comradesven's thread state something along the lines of, "don't you DARE give me credit for this", and say anyone is free to use anything he has done??
I enjoy trollin' Enyo as much as the next guy, but go after him for the outright *lie* of 'espresso protection' or any of the multitudes of other crap?
...and now back to the lulz.
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yeah as long as posts source hes free to do whatever he wants in terms of forking/kanging/whatever for kernels
but the **** he makes up in terms of what the kernel does it what i enjoy personally
PhoenixPath said:
I enjoy trollin' Enyo as much as the next guy, but go after him for the outright *lie* of 'espresso protection' or any of the multitudes of other crap?
...and now back to the lulz.
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Adding a 1.9ghz clock step is an outright lie. You really think that this phone could handle that clockspeed reliably?
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Adding a 1.9ghz clock step is an outright lie. You really think that this phone could handle that clockspeed reliably?
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no sgs1 phone could...but you can put as high a step as you want...doesnt make it smart lol
while enyo allowed us to have lots of lulz over the past few weeks, I do think its time to move on. He is not learning from his mistakes and thats most likely because he is "11 yrs old". If this is true, well 11yr olds shouldnt be members on xda let alone "developing" anyway.
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while enyo allowed us to have lots of lulz over the past few weeks, I do think its time to move on. He is not learning from his mistakes and thats most likely because he is "11 yrs old". If this is true, well 11yr olds shouldnt be members on xda let alone "developing" anyway.
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yeah i made the 11 year olds shouldnt be members argument back when that came to light and no one seemed to care, oh well
I don't blame Enyo for what he is doing. I blame his parents for home schooling him and allowing the only contact to the outside world through a phone or computer with an Internet connection. He spends entirely too much time playing with his phone when he should be outside playing with people his age.
Enyo, put the phone and computer away, step outside your home and start enjoying life.
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Get mad at me for this comment, its totally fine with me if you do. The mods really are needed and I wish they would step up. The fascinate is one of the busier parts of the forum and its full of posts that need removing. If they started doing that among warning offenders this would be a much smaller problem
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Get mad at me for this comment, its totally fine with me if you do. The mods really are needed and I wish they would step up. The fascinate is one of the busier parts of the forum and its full of posts that need removing. If they started doing that among warning offenders this would be a much smaller problem
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They actually have been policing these threads - what we have now is actually a much smaller problem than what we'd have if they weren't. As many off-topic (to put it mildly) posts as there are now, we'd have 3X as many if they weren't active here. At least 2/4ths of the threads that have been closed would still be open and there would be at least 50,000 more troll posts
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Very true. I am specifying the development forum. There are so many very nonrelevant and repeat posts its ridiculous. The sad part though is i am hypocritical and guilty of this myself
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Step 1 - Remind yourself that nothing anyone does on the forum besides the devs and the mods really matters.
Step 2 - When someone decides to create a thread to host their nightly builds of a new ROM for you to enjoy, don't criticize them for opening the thread before the ROM is ready. Doing this makes you an incredible asshole.
Step 3 - You can learn more from the devs and mods other than how to program. For instance, they have a sense of humor. All of you, apparently, do not.
Step 4 - People make mistakes. Jumping on them for doing this puts you under scrutiny. Be ready to have a spotless record...wait! You don't! "Hi pot, I'm kettle! You're black! Dur-ha!" (This is what you sound like, to me.)
Step 5 - Should the previous steps not have solved the problem of you being an uptight waste of carbon, I sometimes recommend the use of illegal narcotics. If nothing else has helped and you're still a complaining asshole, try this:
a) Purchase 1/8th oz high grade marijuana.
b) Take a portion of the marijuana and remove the pointy stems.
c) Roll the marijuana into a Zig Zag brand rolling paper.
d) Ignite the now rolled marijuana cigarette or "joint"*.
e) Inhale the smoke and hold it in a bit.
f) Repeat until the joint burns your fingertip.
h) Play your favorite LP. I Personally recommend anything Beatles, Meat Puppets, Beach Boys, or Built to Spill. Should you have ****ty taste in music, Legend by Bob Marley will probably be in your collection. That'll do for now.
i) Repeat a - h until all traces of knowitall assholism have been cleansed from your system.
The mods and devs are always super cool and give you guys free software ALL THE TIME! How can you get so annoyed by small deviations from forum policy? Relax, idiots. Lay off the n00bs and the devs. Try some politeness or some humor. it would seem that many people here in the know lack both. Shame on you for treating life too seriously. Especially life on the internet.
I realize that I am also here complaining. Feel free to point out what a hypocrite I am. I'll ponder the paradoxical idiocy of my words as I read a book, perform comedy for money, ride my bike so as not to turn into a bloated internet jerk, and make love to a woman.
Anyone interested in seeing first hand how to deal with people with less knowledge than you should sit in on a kindergarten class for a couple days. Take note of how the teacher doesn't berate or ridicule the students for lacking the knowledge that s/he has. It should be a fascinating and largely unknown concept to many of you.
* Also referred to as a spliff, nail, wooer, etc...
Sticky this.
Wrong forum.. Lol again.
That rod isn't coming out anytime soon - it's stuck so far up my ass that I'm in danger of choking on it
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Step 2 - When someone decides to create a thread to host their nightly builds of a new ROM for you to enjoy, don't criticize them for opening the thread before the ROM is ready. Doing this makes you an incredible asshole.
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How about people just stop creating new threads so damn often? We don't need a thread created to mention that some dev nobody cares about is beginning to consider working on a stupid port nobody wants. Post it in the ROM Bible thread or blast it out on Twitter to your four followers.
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The mods and devs are always super cool and give you guys free software ALL THE TIME! How can you get so annoyed by small deviations from forum policy? Relax, idiots. Lay off the n00bs and the devs. Try some politeness or some humor. it would seem that many people here in the know lack both. Shame on you for treating life too seriously. Especially life on the internet.
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Or follow the rules. Just follow the rules. I hope you get banned for this thread.
Banned? Really? For ball busting? Get a life, duder! Have some fun and don't read too much into it. I'm sittin' here sayin' that people are taking things waaaaaaay too seriously and your response is to wish for my banishment? Yeesh...
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Sleef said:
Step 1 - Remind yourself that nothing anyone does on the forum besides the devs and the mods really matters.
Step 2 - When someone decides to create a thread to host their nightly builds of a new ROM for you to enjoy, don't criticize them for opening the thread before the ROM is ready. Doing this makes you an incredible asshole.
Step 3 - You can learn more from the devs and mods other than how to program. For instance, they have a sense of humor. All of you, apparently, do not.
Step 4 - People make mistakes. Jumping on them for doing this puts you under scrutiny. Be ready to have a spotless record...wait! You don't! "Hi pot, I'm kettle! You're black! Dur-ha!" (This is what you sound like, to me.)
Step 5 - Should the previous steps not have solved the problem of you being an uptight waste of carbon, I sometimes recommend the use of illegal narcotics. If nothing else has helped and you're still a complaining asshole, try this:
a) Purchase 1/8th oz high grade marijuana.
b) Take a portion of the marijuana and remove the pointy stems.
c) Roll the marijuana into a Zig Zag brand rolling paper.
d) Ignite the now rolled marijuana cigarette or "joint"*.
e) Inhale the smoke and hold it in a bit.
f) Repeat until the joint burns your fingertip.
h) Play your favorite LP. I Personally recommend anything Beatles, Meat Puppets, Beach Boys, or Built to Spill. Should you have ****ty taste in music, Legend by Bob Marley will probably be in your collection. That'll do for now.
i) Repeat a - h until all traces of knowitall assholism have been cleansed from your system.
The mods and devs are always super cool and give you guys free software ALL THE TIME! How can you get so annoyed by small deviations from forum policy? Relax, idiots. Lay off the n00bs and the devs. Try some politeness or some humor. it would seem that many people here in the know lack both. Shame on you for treating life too seriously. Especially life on the internet.
I realize that I am also here complaining. Feel free to point out what a hypocrite I am. I'll ponder the paradoxical idiocy of my words as I read a book, perform comedy for money, ride my bike so as not to turn into a bloated internet jerk, and make love to a woman.
Anyone interested in seeing first hand how to deal with people with less knowledge than you should sit in on a kindergarten class for a couple days. Take note of how the teacher doesn't berate or ridicule the students for lacking the knowledge that s/he has. It should be a fascinating and largely unknown concept to many of you.
* Also referred to as a spliff, nail, wooer, etc...
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Step one, learn to post in the proper forum. Step 2, brick your phone so you can't post here anymore. Step 3, quit feeding something that you know nothing of.
When someone comes on and says they are creating 2.2 blur and there isn't a 2.2 blur ANYWHERE, think about it. Quit being a moron.
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BLAH BLAH BLAH
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You should be banned simply for creating this useless thread. Fail. You are all that is wrong with XDA.
HebrewToYou said:
You should be banned simply for creating this useless thread. Fail. You are all that is wrong with XDA.
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fenixnr said:
Step one, learn to post in the proper forum. Step 2, brick your phone so you can't post here anymore. Step 3, quit feeding something that you know nothing of.
When someone comes on and says they are creating 2.2 blur and there isn't a 2.2 blur ANYWHERE, think about it. Quit being a moron.
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These 2 gentlemen have the right idea.
Development is an "act of improving by expanding or enlarging or refining"
I don't see "asking questions answered dozens of times previously" or "saying oneself is creating a ROM based on source material that doesn't exist"
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Wow. The main point of all of this was to somewhat humorously invoke some kindness in dealing with annoying people. I see that some are amused and some are not. Posting to development was part of the joke.
Obviously, it's not awesome to start a thread in the wrong section but IT'S NOT WORTH BLOWING UP OVER. Also, wishing me harm, banishment, bricked phone, etc is silly. RELAX.
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Also, wishing me harm, banishment, bricked phone, etc is silly. RELAX.
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And nothing of value was lost.
Sleef said:
Wow. The main point of all of this was to somewhat humorously invoke some kindness in dealing with annoying people. I see that some are amused and some are not. Posting to development was part of the joke.
Obviously, it's not awesome to start a thread in the wrong section but IT'S NOT WORTH BLOWING UP OVER. Also, wishing me harm, banishment, bricked phone, etc is silly. RELAX.
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As I said, the rod is too far up my ass to relax
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I lol'd pretty damn hard.
thanks i had a good laugh i came here from another forum and it seems everyone is out to hate on each other
naw... no one hates anyone... people are just bored... and in an attempt to get someone to agree with his methodology he made himself look like more of an ass..
i say close the thread, and move on...
I wasn't aware that I've been made to look like an ass!
All this anger over some silly trash talk in an attempt to get people to relax a bit.
To tell the truth, I find most people here pretty helpful. If I were to focus in on myself, I'd say that this was more inflammatory than I'd intended and that I've certainly missed some unwritten rule about not being playful or fun. For all my bluster, I can see how people could have mistaken this for actual condemnation.
I'll make an honest attempt to be more boring, in the future.
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I'll make an honest attempt to be more boring, in the future.
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That's all we're asking... i'm glad you're understanding.
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That's all we're asking... i'm glad you're understanding.
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Heh. Now THAT'S funny.
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Heh. Now THAT'S funny.
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So is the game.
Ha ha I thought is was funny. Things get so damn serious around here since when does a "hobby" become so serious people start treating others like crap.
Thanks for the laugh. The folks who are annoyed by this are probably the ones who need to really read it! I enjoy a good laugh...everyone should.
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Ha ha I thought is was funny. Things get so damn serious around here since when does a "hobby" become so serious people start treating others like crap.
Thanks for the laugh. The folks who are annoyed by this are probably the ones who need to really read it! I enjoy a good laugh...everyone should.
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I've noticed a rather horrible grammatical habit of people lately; to use an ellipsis, not followed by a space. This is bad practice.
See, now I REALLY have a rod up my ass
Best.... thread... ever! But can we just grow up and get back to dev'ing instead of everyone complaining and arguing about everyones post?
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Why kick a linuxnerd with this knowledge!!?
PsYCoR said:
Why kick a linuxnerd with this knowledge!!?
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Where do we sign to get him back?
wait what happend?
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wait what happend?
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Did he quit because of the HTCClay ordeal? If so All those folks went to rootzwiki.com
His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law. Some jerk took that to mean he was banned or punished or in some way unwelcome at XDA, which is false. The OP deserves a nice temp ban for having such a glaring attitude towards the administrators here at XDA who are doing their best to keep this site running. But, for someone with one post, I can't see that doing any good. Best to just ignore the troll till the admins remove this thread.
Out of all the worthless crappy 100+ threads you chose one that is actually useful WOW.
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His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law.
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i can't belive it.
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Out of all the worthless crappy 100+ threads you chose one that is actually useful WOW.
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Sorry, but I LOLĀ“ed imagining you saying that. Anyway, that sucks =(
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His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law.
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That actually seems reasonably fair... Everyone is angry at Acer for doing that, I don't see why Thor should be held to a different standard. Having said that, his kernel was great... I hope he comes back and plays according to the rules.
With any luck this was all a big misunderstanding, and he just hadn't started a GIT yet but was about to, or something like that.
I mean his kernel was up a few days only, you couldnt have given him some more time to explain or something?
This is the guy that got Clockwork for EVERYBODY for ****s sake...
And its impossible to put a price tag on how important it is.
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I mean his kernel was up a few days only, you couldnt have given him some more time to explain or something?
This is the guy that got Clockwork for EVERYBODY for ****s sake...
And its impossible to put a price tag on how important it is.
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We can only guess that PM's were being exchanged over the issue before any action was taken. At least, I HOPE they were. They wouldn't just boot him without talking first, would they?
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We can only guess that PM's were being exchanged over the issue before any action was taken. At least, I HOPE they were. They wouldn't just boot him without talking first, would they?
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As I say, let's just hope this was all a big misunderstanding. Thor was asked for his source a few times in that thread, and he never responded to those requests publicly. I don't know what happened behind the scenes though, as you say. Perhaps a mod can clarify?
Of course they would... They ban all the best devs over stupid $h*t. Android is "open source" but now we say he was banned for not including source? Thanks conan keep up the great work...
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Please let's get Thor and his work back !
Wtf is this s%%%???
First there's not even ONE mod to sticky the important threads and now some N00B comes to play sheriff in town and kick the DEV who brought CLOCKWORKMOD to ICONIA out?
Who the F%%% is this brilliant MOD???
WHY the F%%% don't you CLOSE ALL 3.1 topics and ask acer for a 3.1 source?
EVER HEARD OF ASKING? NICELY?
Thor was rebuilding his kernel from ground up anyway.
WTF? is this XDA OR CCCP?
Mod who bans = CONANTROUTMAN... Send all requests to him ;-)
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Please post the C&D if it REALLY was a legal thing
Seriously? Because he hasn't had time to post the source up? Really?
This isn't anything new even here on XDA, and as far as being legally compliant, show us the cease and desist order, please. In any event that's no cause to get a poster banned and XDA had plenty of occurrences on significantly less open platforms where they didn't ban the poster, but locked the content due to C&Ds.
Thor did significant amounts of work here to get us what we want. Acer and pretty much 100% of corporate industries are limited to what they can do or say because of much greater liability of what they produce. One user/fan/coder posting here not so much liability as none of it is anywhere near official.
So, again please post the C&D
Even if he was being a total jackass and blurted out obscenities AT mods, a temp ban would all that it would warrant.
CONANTROUTMAN banned him or CONANTROUTMAN is in charge of mods overdoing their job?
Who banned him?
This is crazy about one month ago we didn't have recovery, Then Thor arrived and fixed that he is very important to the development of the a 500, Lets hope this is temporary, Without devs like Thor we get nowhere on our devices, I have seen in the past when devs have fights with mods the devs leave for good. Its almost like they get jealous of the work they do.
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In the official post for CyanogenMod 7 it says
"There are many devices still in beta status (Pyramid, Doubleshot, Shooter, HP Touchpad, Optimus 3D, several more) that we will be promoting to release or release-candidates in the next few weeks when the code is merged to our main branch."
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Now this is purely speculation as the title says so if anyone gets disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Now i could be looking at this completely wrong so feel free to call me a dumb ass if i am wrong.
Source: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-1-released
The CM7 project for the Atrix is not being developed by official Cyanogenmod. Just stay tuned to the google code page and follow twitter accounts.
SirFork said:
The CM7 project for the Atrix is not being developed by official Cyanogenmod. Just stay tuned to the google code page and follow twitter accounts.
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Once its in RC don't they give it to the official team for merging? that's what i thought happened from my understanding.
There are many devices still in beta status (Pyramid, Doubleshot, Shooter, HP Touchpad, Optimus 3D, several more) that we will be promoting to release or release-candidates in the next few weeks when the code is merged to our main branch.
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That's from the official Cyanogenmod site, which has no affiliation with the development of CM7 for the Atrix.
Yeah, but the current team is responsible for making the atrix compatible with cm7 (thus, they're doing most of the work). Once that's done, they'll be giving it to the official team so they can support it.
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I'm pretty sure the dev team has said all they need to do is get the fingerprint scanner and webtop working then they can submit it to cyanogen mod to try and get official status, since before cyanogen will accept any port it must not break any functionality that the stock rom had
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I'm pretty sure the dev team has said all they need to do is get the fingerprint scanner and webtop working then they can submit it to cyanogen mod to try and get official status, since before cyanogen will accept any port it must not break any functionality that the stock rom had
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The webtop might take a while since it seems they have to design their own version of it
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Exactly why this is such an ambitious effort. Some people might not have the fortitude (or the patience!) for this phone's technology to be fully realized. For me, I'm kind of excited to own such a unique device and hope the developers aren't discouraged by such a challenge.
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Exactly why this is such an ambitious effort. Some people might not have the fortitude (or the patience!) for this phone's technology to be fully realized. For me, I'm kind of excited to own such a unique device and hope the developers aren't discouraged by such a challenge.
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I think the devs are more discouraged by the trolls.
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IUH1991 said:
I think the devs are more discouraged by the trolls.
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This is probably a huge factor along with the massive number of idiots who fail to read directions properly and end up with bootloops and blame the dev's for making faulty software.
I installed CM7 on my Atrix and now it's running too fast. I can't keep up with it. Also the benchmark scores are too high, and the battery lasts too long. Plz fix.
Phalanx7621 said:
I installed CM7 on my Atrix and now it's running too fast. I can't keep up with it. Also the benchmark scores are too high, and the battery lasts too long. Plz fix.
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HaHa Good one!!!!
I think a lot of the trolls here are just ungrateful...they constantly complaining about things not work like they want them to work and they are constantly bugging the devs about when when when! These same trolls do not take a mere breath to stop and say thank you to the devs that work hard for free. No one has EVER promised them anything, but they complain like it is the devs duty to please them. Somedays I wish I were back in the Aria forum because the community was very helpful and the devs felt welcomed.
FYI good find OP!
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HaHa Good one!!!!
I think a lot of the trolls here are just ungrateful...they constantly complaining about things not work like they want them to work and they are constantly bugging the devs about when when when! These same trolls do not take a mere breath to stop and say thank you to the devs that work hard for free. No one has EVER promised them anything, but they complain like it is the devs duty to please them. Somedays I wish I were back in the Aria forum because the community was very helpful and the devs felt welcomed.
FYI good find OP!
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"Troll"
I don't think you know what that word actually means yet you use it constantly.
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"Troll"
I don't think you know what that word actually means yet you use it constantly.
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It's actually kinda explained in my post.
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It's actually kinda explained in my post.
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Since you still don't realise what the word "troll" actually means, let me clarify for you.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ie the very people you are complaining about are not, in fact, trying to provoke people, but rather are just uninformed people asking for help. In fact, you are the one closer to a troll then they are since you keep insulting them instead of directing them to the right answer, potentially provoking them into an outlash of anger.
IUH1991 said:
The webtop might take a while since it seems they have to design their own version of it
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Sadly I don't think they'll be having Webtop on Cyanogenmod. Last I heard it was too much work.
if cm7 allowed me to play my movies from my phone on tv when i am away from home i would be on it like a fat kid on a smartie!
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Since you still don't realise what the word "troll" actually means, let me clarify for you.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ie the very people you are complaining about are not, in fact, trying to provoke people, but rather are just uninformed people asking for help. In fact, you are the one closer to a troll then they are since you keep insulting them instead of directing them to the right answer, potentially provoking them into an outlash of anger.
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Nicely put...
Ratchet556 said:
Now this is purely speculation as the title says so if anyone gets disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Now i could be looking at this completely wrong so feel free to call me a dumb ass if i am wrong.
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dumbass....
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dumbass....
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We dont sit here and update or post all day because its un needed, exhausting on its own, and frusterating to the point of cursing. I can once a week come to this thread and after going through 20+ pages find maybe one thing worth replying to, like this time and the gentleman that requested a few pages back that i call this kang and not official ?!? Why because we have waited till we deemed ready to merge ? Everything we released has been stable and useable i have not touched another rom in months, we will merge shortly, it will be up todate 2.3.7 or what ever uptodate is than. We are all running 2.3.7 curently , there has not been another release because IOO there has not been enough added fixes that we felt the need to do so yet. Mostly we have been waiting on FP. I have it working 100% fine actually better than stock, but it haz created a bug with calls when enabled for an unknown reason. I have been working on the same bug for over 2 weeks . Once again iwasted more time i could have spent on the bug to reply to those of you that felt i needed to "give updates" to a 170 page hell hole where no one reads in the first place Anyhow we appreciate your all excited , so are we , mostly so we can stop working keep in mind we want itcompleted and working obiously more than you do so either relax and wait or keep yelling inhere like a jakaninny IDGAF, but i will post updates when i am ready as will the other team members. End of story
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I'm going to ignore that for the soul fact I was right. From the CM7 thread.
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I've noticed every new rom people wanna talk **** about... for example. Enyos new two expresso ...... so what if its a stock i9000 port. We should be encouraging our few devs we have left... not constantly downing them.... if people wanna complainso damn much why don't they make their own rom ...
Sorry just had to vent some about the dumbasses in our forums
Okay, see ya.
bones420la said:
I've noticed every new rom people wanna talk **** about... for example. Enyos new two expresso ...... so what if its a stock i9000 port. We should be encouraging our few devs we have left... not constantly downing them.... if people wanna complainso damn much why don't they make their own rom ...
Sorry just had to vent some about the dumbasses in our forums
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I agree. There are a lot of people who do not realize how much effort the developers really put into making these phones better and they do it all for free.
The people on here need to take a course in giving constructive criticism, rather than dogging the rim,or app, or what-have-you all together. This forum isn't a place just to get free help and stuff for your phone. It's here for us to help each other, not rip on eachother.
I've been using xda since the omnia i910 was first released. And I've never seen the forums as bad as they are here. Its sad the way people act now
From what I can tell, the only hostility going on around here is towards enyo. It's easy to see why the people act the way they do towards him too, in fact there's threads describing why they do.
As far as any other negativity...it's easy to want to talk **** to people asking questions that we already have stickies dedicated to. This is (was) a developers forum after all.
I agree there's no reason for hostility on these forums sometimes, but most of the time it's perfectly logical AND necessary for people to learn.
The reason this goes on is because the dev you speak of takes other people roms, add some tweaks, scripts and what not, then calls it is own rom. Most members here can do this, but they would not claim the rom as his/her own. The ethics are off and thats most likely because of him/her being so young. I commend the efforts, but a true dev builds things from source and anything thats kanged, proper credit is given. Besides most everything I read is just a friendly ribbing anyways. If you op cant understand this, then by all means leave, and dont let the door hit ya in the a** on the way out. By the way where is the popcorn
Plus, there are valuable lessons to be learned from all of the trolling:
1. Don't make outrageous claims that you can't deliver on (5000 Quadrant? Really? No spoofing the Quadrant app? Dual-core beast phones don't even do 5000)
2. Don't build hype with shameless self-promotion (WebOS or iOS on the Fascinate?!? Come on...)
3. Never give out ETAs because you never know what might come up.
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Mmmmmm popcorn
SCH-1500....sc v03 voodoo lagfix......LETS GO PENS!
icemanwbs said:
Mmmmmm popcorn
SCH-1500....sc v03 voodoo lagfix......LETS GO PENS!
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LET'S GO PENCILS! Trash those Sharpies like there's no tomorrow!
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Lets go crayola crayons!
Just saw John Conned drawing on sidewalk with chalk!
SCH-1500....sc v03 voodoo lagfix......LETS GO PENS!
icemanwbs said:
Just saw John Conned drawing on sidewalk with chalk!
SCH-1500....sc v03 voodoo lagfix......LETS GO PENS!
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Who Conned John? Oh, wait...
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Who Conned John??
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.....it was the t1000 cloned to a hot blonde with double d's!
I would think by now that the Enyo debate had been extensively covered.
In turn for (most) people laying off the trolling and flaming, i dont think we need people to keep popping up to defend him all the time either.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, yes, but to blindly defend someone without any knowledge of why is just plain assinine in my eyes. If you ask me its all foolish, just my $0.02
Edit: also to lose faith in an entire site because of one forum...wow. I too have been here since the i910 and honestly its not a whole lot different other than alot of good contributers leaving. However the community as a whole has always been a tad on the boorish side, thats how forums tend to work.
"I didn't say that...my Fascinate has a tiny troll inside it."
rootzwiki is my main forums now...
i know enyo says alot of outrageous ****... but so have many other devs who got quite a bit of money in donations and disapeared....
atleast enyo is making something....
his expresso pyramid is the fasted rom ive ever used on my fascinate....and ive tried every rom avaliable
Who's made a lot of money and disappeared from the Fascinate forum? jt1134 didn't exactly rake it in, and he still develops for the Fascinate on Rootzwiki. Adrynalyne left the Fascinate forum because he got a Thunderbolt and then left XDA entirely because he was outraged by inconsistent behavior from the Thunderbolt mods. Most others are still here or returned to the Fascinate AFAIK
Has anyone seen John Connor?
When I say alot have left I am speaking generally over the years. Between leaving for other forums or starting up teams with their own site or just dropping the cause all together for one reason or another.
The fascinate forum in particular will, I fear, continue to fall in numbers only because this device does not have the staying power of some of the others mostly due to the timeframe of its release and higher profile releases around that same timeframe. I mean seriously, look at the Droid Eris. It was big reds first android phone and is still receiving new and updated material. The Fascinate will never have that following.
That is not saying it is a bad device, but until the leaps made by Jt fell into place it was a pita to develop for (outside of cleaned up TW Roms). Unfortunately by that time most had moved on to newer devices.
"I didn't say that...my Fascinate has a tiny troll inside it."
Sorry, hesh.monster, but I was addressing that question to bones420la, because I don't have access to the financial records and bank statements for each of the devs, therefore I don't know which ones "got quite a bit of money in donations and disappeared"
Has anyone seen John Connor?
I figured but I've got my panties in a knot over all these "white knights" (as stated in the Enyos' lastest "Rom" thread). I wasn't gearing my response toward you so much as all of "them". No harm done
"I didn't say that...my Fascinate has a tiny troll inside it."
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I figured but I've got my panties in a knot over all these "white knights" (as stated in the Enyos' lastest "Rom" thread).
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Hahah - panties in a knot ROFL Now they got a Wannamod who came all the way from the Charge forum just to play thread enforcer and report it to the mods
Has anyone seen John Connor?
I'm starting this thread cause our dear old friend ropeadope has banned for racism. He has helped with everyone including I. We need to some how unban him._______________:-------:___________________. So in this thread DO NOT TROLL ABOUT YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ROPEADOPE. I started to see that already.
Don't be immature about what's going on.
Show so positive attitude to everyone, especially yourself.
DON'T TROLL LIKE THAT DANM UNICORNS THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT.
that stoner works at circle k
^ I agree
Edit. Supposedly there is no proof of thr comment in question
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I doubt he'd come back after the way he was canned. He's moved on to greener pastures.
Are you flipping kidding me???????
Unreal.... :/
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He was setup as well...
Free Dirk!!!
HipKat said:
Are you flipping kidding me???????
Unreal.... :/
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Smh...
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Rope -a-dope I've seen help more people than most.
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Talking to Ropodope right now on Gtalk! This is what he says to everyone..
"Thank everyone who has ever thanked me, said a good word about me, and the untold pm's from those who have appreciated my no nonsense approach. They have all made me a better person and if not for them having a need, I would have never been in a position to fill it. Good luck, God bless them all and may their Evo's continue to rock!......Ropodope!
Lets get him back on XDA!
He may or may not have been racist. But, there are countless examples of him being short tempered and mean spirited. He was bad for this community's growth. Please, somebody, close this thread.
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He may or may not have been racist. But, there are countless examples of him being short tempered and mean. Please, somebody, close this thread.
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Really! okay
^ Yes. Go read through the Virus InfectedROM thread. He was even a jerk to dev because he didn't put out free releases fast enough, when Virus didn't even own a 4G. Virus eventually left.
If being harsh was grounds for a banning, I'd have been banned a LONG time ago.....
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He may or may not have been racist. But, there are countless examples of him being short tempered and mean spirited. He was bad for this community's growth. Please, somebody, close this thread.
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we'd rather have YOU leave it
^ Ok then. Good luck with your endeavor.
Proof of my claims.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1071547-p-71.html
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He may or may not have been racist. But, there are countless examples of him being short tempered and mean spirited. He was bad for this community's growth. Please, somebody, close this thread.
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You are a sad excuse for a human being unkind sir. There is not a racist bone in Ropodope's body and you are a perfect example of the kind of people he was talking about. It is obvious to anyone with a brain to think which may be in short supply these days based on your post. Sad sad people I say. You know I never saw you make one post to him while he was on xda. Let's make a deal, you leave and bring Ropodope back. I would make that deal any time.
bringingit
I never said he was racist, I said he was short tempered, and scared away new members to the community. I didn't like his style and I think the mods made a good decision. I never had a discussion with him because he never posted anything that couldn't be found by reading myself.
Edit: I have no idea why I keep posting in this thread. I will honor your guys' wishes. I am done posting in here.
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^ Ok then. Good luck with your endeavor.
Proof of my claims.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1071547-p-71.html
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Dude that was SOOOO long ago. Ropo from the looks of it changed a long time ago. That was WAAy in the past. Let it go.
Wow! The show of support for Ropodope in the EVO forums is overwhelming, & a nice change from the norm on these forums. I know Ropodope personally, we've met a few times for coffee & lunch. He is not a racist, & was wrongly accused and setup by two members that are on lifetime bans from this site for various reasons including racial comments & stealing other peoples work, not to mention stealing personal information to facilitate electronic wire fraud by hacking their donors' Paypal accounts with the purpose of stealing money.
My view of this whole situation of what led to Ropodope getting a lifetime ban is this: if the two low lifes (who are permanently banned from this site) had not circumvented the system by hiding behind VPN's in order to gain access to the site to facilitate engaging rope in a trolling fashion this never would have happened. Bottom line: if they hadn't been on the site rope would not have been banned, period.
Therefore I believe his ban should be lifted & his account restored to it's prior state.
Ropodope has an undying willingness to help people with their rooted EVOs, at times people that are either incapable of following simple instructions, or unwilling to actually do any research for themselves grate on his last nerve. And rightfully so, his knowledge of the EVO & Android in general come from months of research, and trial & error while trying different mods on his phone. Between the two of us there isn't a mod or tweak that we haven't tried on the EVO, trust me we've tried everything at least once at one time or another since rooting our phones.
So does rope come off as an ass sometimes? Sure, we all do. But he is more than willing to help anyone who will take the time to follow instructions and hopefully learn something along the way.
The last thing rope would ever be is a racist, opinionated yes, racist never.
-carhauler1969
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I didn't like his style and I think the mods made a good decision. I never had a discussion with him because he never posted anything that couldn't be found by reading myself.
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And that is all Ropodope ever asked anyone to do, read & find the answer themselves just like he did.
Key words: "I didn't like his style" That is your opinion & you're entitled to it, but check his thanks meter & post count they tell an entirely different story, many people even PM'd him with thanks and/or apologized to him for making an ass of themselves in the development threads.
Edit: I have no idea why I keep posting in this thread. I will honor your guys' wishes. I am done posting in here.
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Thanksokseeyalaterbuhbye
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