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Why all the hate? Kinda ridiculous.

You know I kinda debated about starting this thread but I finally read enough smartass-think-they-are-better-than-everyone-posts. Im a member on countless electonics forums with thousands of posts with the same user name I might add and this forum kinda tops them all as far as "rude people". Yes, I might be "newer" to these forums, but while most of you were in elementary school, I was working on computers, installing networks and doing competition car audio.
Now lets start.
Why were forums made? For the masses to gather and share information, ideas, buy & sell, meet others and just down right chat to one another. *And for people that got picked on in their school days and decide to be a jerk online because they want to feel better about themselves.*
It seems like almost every single thread I read there is someone that asks the "standard question" that has probably been answered numerous times and then you get the standard response. "Well if you would of read, you would know the answer." Instead of being a douche, you could of just typed the answer, gained more post counts and could of probably got your Thanks Meter up another notch.
I love the answer, "Thats what the search feature is for." Well I'm sure almost all of you have tried to search and maybe your search wasnt bigger than 3 letters which gets excluded or so many other queries come that dont get even come close to answering your question. Sometimes its like trying to find waldo in a book with really really big freaking pages.
Then the, "If you would of read the whole thread you would know the answer" response. Well jesus, do you guys realize how fast some of these threads move? Damn, I can make a post, go to bed, wake up and noticed during the overnight the thread gains 10+ pages. Now imagine you are someone new to this, you have read the stickies, done a few searches, got their phone rooted ok but then notice a bug so they ask the "standard question". Well when you have an ungodly amount of threads and an even bigger number of actual posts sometimes its like finding a needle in a haystack. When just asking a question (Which is what forums were made for) can sometimes save you hours of searching thousands of threads.
Some of the people on this forum just need to be patient and help people out, instead being an ASS. We were all newbies once. And we will all be newbies to some other subject in the future. "Can't we all just get along"
And before anyone does the standard flaming. No, this did not happen to me. Search my screen names for posts if you wish. I just hate seeing in almost every 500+ page thread were someone asks a question and the next few people have some sort of smartass answer.
Just be nice, answer the question and watch your Thanks Meter go up. Simple as that.
If people werent asking questions then these forums wouldnt even be a quarter of the size they are now.
Thanks for reading. Have a great day.
Also, thanks to all the Devs that have spent countless days and sleepless nights to help all of us have a more enjoyable experience with our phones.

Uhh, there are already a few threads talking about the same rants, next time search before you create a thread......
LMAO, ok sorry. I couldn't help myself,

quietstorm said:
Uhh, there are already a few threads talking about the same rants, next time search before you create a thread......
LMAO, ok sorry. I couldn't help myself,
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I enjoyed that comment.

sminker said:
I enjoyed that comment.
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Thanks bro, but you are right though, there is a little to much tension at times around here. I have been a member of this site for many years, I had another account but I forgot my name and password so I created this one about three years ago. My point is, I been coming here for over 5 years or so and I am on this site damn near every single day but I never post much if ever. I usually search for what I am looking for at best and then just move on while avoiding the stupid crap. I am also a member of sprintusers, ppcgeeks, androidforums and a few others and they all seem to have their fare share of idiots. Since xda is probably the largest site with the most traffic compared to the others I guess you run the risk of seeing more idiots here as well.

Well said sminker. If people do not like what people post they are just better off keeping it to themselves. Be part of solution not the problem.
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Thanks for the replies. Nice to know I wasnt flamed immediately.

I find XDA to be pretty friendly. The worst tech forums are the tool bags at MacForums that place has a yon of negative and rude posters

Zorachus said:
I find XDA to be pretty friendly. The worst tech forums are the tool bags at MacForums that place has a yon of negative and rude posters
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Doesnt surprise me. Gotta keep your eye on those Mac users. They are a breed of their own.

i hate the 'wrong section' trolls. just let the mods quietly move it, and dont comment. be happy, dont hate.
very well said.

Wow
Thanks for bringing this up. This issue really is annoying. I totally agree. But, it's the internet and jerks will be jerks.

cdszoke said:
Thanks for bringing this up. This issue really is annoying. I totally agree. But, it's the internet and jerks will be jerks.
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Sir you are completely right. People can and will act completely different in this "Alternate Universe" than they will in real life. Why? Becuase they can and it makes them feel a little more "Alpha".

Hey I remember being new to a certain forum not this one though, and asking a simple question. The regular jerks of the forum proceeded to try to make me feel like an idiot. Needless to say my feelings weren't hurt but I guess it's that "Alpha Male" complex.

haha those jerks on the iphone-developers wont reply at all. i'm experiencing being a noob again with my ipad.
ps: any of you helpful xda people kno more than a thing or two about tinyumbrella and shsh/jailbreak stuff?

dkdude36 said:
haha those jerks on the iphone-developers wont reply at all. i'm experiencing being a noob again with my ipad.
ps: any of you helpful xda people kno more than a thing or two about tinyumbrella and shsh/jailbreak stuff?
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If i did, i would help you out. But Im holding off for the 2nd gen Ipad.

I agree, but change your title from REDiculous to ridiculous

sminker said:
If i did, i would help you out. But Im holding off for the 2nd gen Ipad.
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hah i was going to, and held for 3 months, but then school started and i needed something to type on, so....

DirtyShroomz said:
I agree, but change your title from REDiculous to ridiculous
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Thanks Given. Should of checked my spelling better.

Well said nice thread more people need to read this. There are many folks here on xda that have helped me over the years, and I lend a hand to those in need when I can. Thanks

Maybe it was REDiculous for a resin. I have bee. Aroubg these forums reading and not trying to post. Let's get a forums back the doing better for our phones not flaing and contributing instead.( ill get flamed for that. Everyone gets pissed at some point but leave it out of here. Or at lesast try lazy trolls.
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Oh yeah, the reality for that is some people( no specifics at all just in general) think they have a ten foot long e ****
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Offtopic: Talk about anything.

I would like to say sorry for my mindless outbursts.
It was not needed for me to react this way.
I feel that i have made a very bad example of myself, and i hope to correct that.
@stvmook
I apologize for insulting you and for my threats.
I do not however agree "that the semi-brick does not exist"
as i have proven from your own source that is does.
And i am no longer willing to discuss it with you.
At the mods sorry for bothering you and your valuable time.
At anyone i may or might have offended,
I apologize and hope that we can put this behind us and continue in a constructive manner.

Pyscho alert!!!!

No.. i realized what i did.
and i feel bad.
i'm not asking for any sympathy.
I just feel.. bad.

Coocoo coocoo
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kudos to you omega, it takes balls to appologise in public like that.
let us all move on now ehh

Don't forget the threat you made to me via PM.

agentJBM said:
Don't forget the threat you made to me via PM.
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I am truly sorry for that. "hardly remember why now.."
Hope we can swift a beer one day. last one to the bottom must eat the cookie.
I just want to end the fighting.
I'm not sure if people are still, gona hate me after this.
Sometimes i don't act like i should i guess anger brings out the worst in of me.
And i learned that i severely need control it better.
I also didn't represent my self as a friendly South African very well neither.
Lets please let it go.

You seem sincere, and we're all human. All is forgotten. ;-)

oh BTW.. this post..
You are forgetting all SE system apps that legally bound to be protected for the developers, including the CAMERA. SE also has a legal responsibility to protect Apple's patent on Multitouch, which I know there is still argument if it is a hardware issue or a bootloader issue. Nonetheless SE still has a legal responsibility to enforce its agreements with partners made before the device ever hit the market. Period.
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Cleared up alot for me.

Hey man, I'm not in any way insulting you with this post, just trying to offer some constructive thoughts. You are not stupid, but you have made some dumb decisions but hey, so have I. No harm in that as long as you take ownership of the mistakes(which you have). Just remember that there are some people here who have years of experience in the electronics field and we should all try to learn from their experience and not argue with them over what the internet says. Happy trails man!
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Thanx i understand.. i too love many forms of art.. most of them require pc's or my 25-50W soldering iron.
I love the smell of resin core in the morning.

apology accepted, moving forward

OmegaRED^ said:
I would like to say sorry for my mindless outbursts.
It was not needed for me to react this way.
I feel that i have made a very bad example of myself, and i hope to correct that.
@stvmook
I apologize for insulting you and for my threats.
I do not however agree "that the semi-brick does not exist"
as i have proven from your own source that is does.
And i am no longer willing to discuss it with you.
At the mods sorry for bothering you and your valuable time.
At anyone i may or might have offended,
I apologize and hope that we can put this behind us and continue in a constructive manner.
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how about @Windst, huh? I think you owe me an apology. A whole thread too to every person's intelligence you insulted, suggesting them as insecure and ignorant. Nice to make a thread too, I think it's better off a signature than a whole thread.

Oh good...we all kissed and made out..! Moving on now..

This thread alone was ment to apologize.. if i had to pm XDA member 1 by 1 in the milions, i would never get anywhere.
Consider this thread my full on apology.
I think i covered that in OP.
At anyone i may or might have offended,
I apologize and hope that we can put this behind us and continue in a constructive manner.
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Buddy.. relax. Now come on guys..
Lets please move on..
More important stuff to do here than my meanderings.
And you must admit.. that i was right about parts of Semi-brick debate.
And no one made that easy.

Errare humanum est!

Obrigado
Like i said.. it's something that will bother me for a long time.
The comments/pm's directed at me may be painfull,
but it will never be as bad as what my own mind will do to me.
I'm glad that XDA is full of intelligent caring people.
Sure life has it's hurt, it's how we move on.

gd step from u dude..like it alot
from now do ur best to help others and you will feel good

Just don't go shooting random people at a public school and everything will be just fine.

Devtone said:
Just don't go shooting random people at a public school and everything will be just fine.
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lmao, not funny tough

ASUS complaint forums

Rather than continuously spamming our forums with all of your complaints I created this thread for you guys. Should you feel the need to *****, cry, moan, nag, nitpick or anything else similar please post here.
It's better to have one unproductive thread with a bunch of unproductive posts rather than a flood of "I'm returning my tf and feel the need to tell you guys because I have no friends in real life" threads.
While we're at it, we might as well make this a sticky.
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Just as long as you make a similar thread for the people who smooch their TF every night.
Ya feel me playa?
Oh and better subscribe to this thread if you're not already, once you start having issues you'll be back. I guarantee it.

Tubular said:
Just as long as you make a similar thread for the people who smooch their TF every night.
Ya feel me playa?
Oh and better subscribe to this thread if you're not already, once you start having issues you'll be back. I guarantee it.
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Haha. The smooching never would have started if it wasn't for all the complaining...
I've had my tf for about a month now and whether it's luck or just the norm, I haven't had any issues thus far.
Some may arise in the future but as of right now I am happy. But that's besides the point.
The issue here is that people are abusing xda. If you have issues with your deivce that aren't related to "hacking" then this is not the place to cry about. Either contact Asus support or deal with it. Xda has the greatest devs in the world, unfortunately not even they can help people who are incompetent.
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I think he meant this is the official I'm returning my TF it's such a piece of..... whether you want to hear me vent about it or not thread.
Don't like it take it back.
Asus might monitor the forums but not much they can do about you returning a retail product.
Wanna call them instead or send it to them? Go for it.
If you have a bad problem call them. File a class action suit ...I don't know...but I do know they are about the only ones that can really do anything about it....or not.

Haha. The smooching never would have started if it wasn't for all the complaining...
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Is this a bad joke? Those threads have been around way before any smooching started, I guarantee it. To think that smooching threads started as a counter to disapproval threads is laughable. The two are a constant on any forum for a device and nothing you say can argue otherwise.
The issue here is that people are abusing xda. If you have issues with your deivce that aren't related to "hacking" then this is not the place to cry about. Either contact Asus support or deal with it. Xda has the greatest devs in the world, unfortunately not even they can help people who are incompetent.
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Wrong, this is so patently absurd I can't even accept it at face value. Maybe you took a wrong turn, for the rest of us we went to the section that is clearly labeled:
Discussion about Asus Eee Pad Transformer (general chat, tips & tricks, Q&A, etc)
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Disapproval threads as well as smooching threads fall within this category. It's general discussion, not hacking. I can understand your argument if these threads were in the Development forum that's not the case though. If someone can't keep their rabid fanboy retaliation instincts out of it that's their problem. There are those who want to make threads and talk about how much they love their TF and there are those who want to make threads and talk about the problems they have with it.

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Is this a bad joke? Those threads have been around way before any smooching started, I guarantee it. To think that smooching threads started as a counter to disapproval threads is laughable. The two are a constant on any forum for a device and nothing you say can argue otherwise.
Wrong, this is so patently absurd I can't even accept it at face value. Maybe you took a wrong turn, for the rest of us we went to the section that is clearly labeled:
Disapproval threads as well as smooching threads fall within this category. It's general discussion, not hacking. I can understand your argument if these threads were in the Development forum that's not the case though. If someone can't keep their rabid fanboy retaliation instincts out of it that's their problem. There are those who want to make threads and talk about how much they love their TF and there are those who want to make threads and talk about the problems they have with it.
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You are correct about this being the general forum, I understand were you are coming from on that...
But you contradict yourself when you say that smooching is the same as complaining because you make it seem like smooching is more prevailent when it clearly is not. You can lookvat the first 5 pages of the general tf forum and the ratio of complaints to smooching is like 5 to 1. Once again, the complaints themselves aren't what people are having problems with, it's the flood of them and the continued spamming of the same damn threads. I have been on this forum since before the tf came out and smooching has never been an issue because those threads are few and in all reality are more of "reviews" than complaints or praises...
If you're trying to justify all of these stupid ass threads then you are ridiculous. Not much more to it than that.
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And I justified it by stating that this was a general forum. There's nothing ridiculous about that.
But you contradict yourself when you say that smooching is the same as complaining because you make it seem like smooching is more prevailent when it clearly is not. You can lookvat the first 5 pages of the general tf forum and the ratio of complaints to smooching is like 5 to 1.
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That's not the definition of contradiction.
The two are the same. Quantity is a different issue entirely and in this case why don't you stop and think about why there is such a large difference in that 5 to 1 ratio of yours. It's not because the ones who have a problem with it are drinking a different kool-aid than the ones who love the TF.
That "large difference" speaks volumes about the disapproval rate of the overall community. Asus needs to see that, informed customers need to see that. Any attempt at cutting that out is a biased, artificial attempt at engineering a facade not unlike North Korea. Asus and informed customers need to see that their TF can fall apart and what happens when it does and why people leave and how many leave.

Tubular said:
And I justified it by stating that this was a general forum. There's nothing ridiculous about that.
That's not the definition of contradiction.
The two are the same. Quantity is a different issue entirely and in this case why don't you stop and think about why there is such a large difference in that 5 to 1 ratio of yours. It's not because the ones who have a problem with it are drinking a different kool-aid than the ones who love the TF.
That "large difference" speaks volumes about the disapproval rate of the overall community. Asus needs to see that, informed customers need to see that. Any attempt at cutting that out is a biased, artificial attempt at engineering a facade not unlike North Korea. Asus and informed customers need to see that their TF can fall apart and what happens when it does and why people leave and how many leave.
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you have a 'thank you' from me purely for the moments entertainment i had realising that you are the most argumentative person ive found so far on XDA... bg round of applause for Tubular ...

You can't be serious...
The "large dissaproval" rate is due 100% to what these forums have become and human nature. when people are unsatisfied for whatever reason they feel the need to be heard. Unfortunately people in there real lives don't give a damn so they conlme to xda were they know they will get a reaction. People who are satisfied on the other hand don't feel the need to be heard because they are happy...
A better judge on the "community perspective " of the tf would be customer reviews on websites such as amazon, which last time I checked were very positive for the tf ...
Why are we even arguing over this? Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules. Argue all you want, it doesn't make a difference. The ridiculous amount of threads being started on a daily basis complaining about the same thing has gotten to be too much.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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you have a 'thank you' from me purely for the moments entertainment i had realising that you are the most argumentative person ive found so far on XDA... bg round of applause for Tubular ...
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Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules.
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But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.

Tubular said:
Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Ye Gods !
I really hope you are a troll because if you are you are doing it quite well.
If you arent ... sheesh ......
Someone has started a thread so that people can post all their complaints and ASUS can 'see them all together' yet still you complain .....

Tubular said:
Yeah I guess I should just bend over and do what you say. Makes for a boring place with you as boss.
But this isn't spam moron. Spamming involves the same person making multiple threads for the same exact subject. Like Chris making three threads about his inability to start the device. Or four bots making the same exact thread to sell their stupid herbal medicine.
This is not spam, but keep trying to morph this into whatever you want so you can justify your insecurity. It's hilarious. What is certain however is that this is general chat material and this is general chat.
So they should just leave because you and a hundred people don't care? And the people who do care don't matter right? Can you even quantify how much that is? Once again, hilarious. You're not the beginning or the end of the world. I can understand that you don't give a ****, nobody gives a **** about you either and you're not the center of attention.
Try to get that through your head, for once at least. Just because you want to be the little angry man who stomps his foot and wants to corral all of the threads into a single monolithic post, doesn't mean you're the center of attention and everything revolves around you.
"Me me me, my device works fine so put all of the disapproval threads in one giant thread." You're disgusting. At least I advocate non-biased discussion on both sides, you don't even try to hide it.
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Lmao!!!!!!! That was quite possibly THE most entertaining thread I have ever read. You are the definition of a class act. Don't worry, I'll be your friend.
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starplaya93 said:
You can't be serious...
The "large dissaproval" rate is due 100% to what these forums have become and human nature. when people are unsatisfied for whatever reason they feel the need to be heard. Unfortunately people in there real lives don't give a damn so they conlme to xda were they know they will get a reaction. People who are satisfied on the other hand don't feel the need to be heard because they are happy...
A better judge on the "community perspective " of the tf would be customer reviews on websites such as amazon, which last time I checked were very positive for the tf ...
Why are we even arguing over this? Spamming is spamming. Its against xda rules. Argue all you want, it doesn't make a difference. The ridiculous amount of threads being started on a daily basis complaining about the same thing has gotten to be too much.
I understand some people are not happy with their purchase, that's fine. Unfortunately me and the other thousands of members on xda don't give a **** and can't do anything about it....
Comprende?
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and yet you seem to feel the need to comment. i take back my earlier comparison. xda is obviously just as full of fanboys as archosfans.
btw i love my tf, have very little problem, but its not perfect and obviously asus has some qc issues. nothing compared to archos, but still unarguable.
i find threads detailing issues and comparisons very useful and tend to have more objective information than the "share your love" topics with the "ooohhhh its so fast" commennts. issue threads and devicce comparison reviews are a buyers tools.
"if you dont like your tf take it back".... agreed, also feel free to share your experience.
"if you dont like these threads... dont read them!"

Wow. This thread clearly failed, lol.
At least it was entertaining. Thanks guys
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Someone has started a thread so that people can post all their complaints and ASUS can 'see them all together' yet still you complain .....
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Yeah, if only that was the intent. But feel free to dust off your reading skills and take a gander at the first post.
I really hope you are a troll because if you are you are doing it quite well.
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Why don't you put down the rabid fanboy / troll playbook for once?
I understand, this is the first time you've actually had to argue against someone who has a different opinion and it's upsetting you.
Lmao!!!!!!! That was quite possibly THE most entertaining thread I have ever read. You are the definition of a class act. Don't worry, I'll be your friend.
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Blah blah blah lol lol lol lmao lmao, you're saying you give up? Well when you've had such a crappy argument to begin with you really should have given up earlier.
Ya feel me playa? Let's be real. By the way your thread isn't turning out too well. Maybe next time you should actually make a thread instead of a flamepit to throw yourself and draw the neighborhood fanboy into.
According to plan? Thanks for the laugh.

Tubular said:
Yeah, if only that was the intent. But feel free to dust off your reading skills and take a gander at the first post.
Why don't you put down the rabid fanboy / troll playbook for once?
I understand, this is the first time you've actually had to argue against someone who has a different opinion and it's upsetting you.
Blah blah blah lol lol lol lmao lmao, you're saying you give up? Well when you've had such a crappy argument to begin with you really should have given up earlier.
Ya feel me playa? Let's be real. By the way your thread isn't turning out too well. Maybe next time you should actually make a thread instead of a flamepit to throw yourself and draw the neighborhood fanboy into.
According to plan? Thanks for the laugh.
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When people read this thread they will look at your post and rrealize how big of a jackass you are. I don't feel the need to get into heated arguments over the internet with people like you.
Take a step back from the internet and get yourself a breather buddy. Try talking to some people in real life and interacting with others that you can physically see. The road your headed on can't be too healthy.
also try not to become the notorious troll on these forums. We're the only pals you've got man. Take it easy
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Couldn't believe it but it seems true. The transformer HAS china quality.
The German forums are also full of critics, mostly centered around the display and dust.
http://translate.google.de/translat...sfehler-staubkoernchen-unter-dem-display.html

LMAO this is hilarious. Hey StarPlaya, if I need to take a breather you need to take one too buddy. You've been here with me every step of the way, don't kid yourself. If you think I'm pathetic you're equally pathetic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there genius. I'll expect your next reply within five minutes, playa.
Somehow I'm pathetic but you're not when you've matched me post for post with the weakest arguments. That's because you're the ultimate playa, it says so in your name. Actually, what are you doing with a TF? Are you sure you're not supposed to be holding a bong and a 40 oz. instead? LMAO
When people read this thread they will look at your post and rrealize how big of a jackass you are. I don't feel the need to get into heated arguments over the internet with people like you.
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Get the anger out now, rage some more. You're the jackass here with your flamepit and attempts to tell people what to do and with a sarcastic opening too. "Let's put all of the *****ing and moaning in one spot", you ***** and moan enough for the whole community. Glad to know I'm getting under your skin though.

dcc22 said:
Couldn't believe it but it seems true. The transformer HAS china quality.
The German forums are also full of critics, mostly centered around the display and dust.
http://translate.google.de/translat...sfehler-staubkoernchen-unter-dem-display.html
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i dont think anyone is debating that there are issues with the TF. What i think is important is that if you google 'xoom dust under screen' or 'ipad 2 dust under screen' or 'samsung tab 10.1 dust under screen' ... or the same with light bleed ..... you will find that every manufacturer has similar issues. i dont think its unique to the TF.

Tubular said:
LMAO this is hilarious. Hey StarPlaya, if I need to take a breather you need to take one too buddy. You've been here with me every step of the way, don't kid yourself. If you think I'm pathetic you're equally pathetic. Way to shoot yourself in the foot there genius. I'll expect your next reply within five minutes, playa.
Somehow I'm pathetic but you're not when you've matched me post for post with the weakest arguments. That's because you're the ultimate playa, it says so in your name. Actually, what are you doing with a TF? Are you sure you're not supposed to be holding a bong and a 40 oz. instead? LMAO
Get the anger out now, rage some more. You're the jackass here with your flamepit and attempts to tell people what to do and with a sarcastic opening too. "Let's put all of the *****ing and moaning in one spot", you ***** and moan enough for the whole community. Glad to know I'm getting under your skin though.
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You're seriously getting a kick out of personally attacking somebody you don't even know?
You actually got so much under my skin that I'm goin to go cut myself now.
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Thank you for everything.

I want to just take a second and say thanks for ALL the support I have received from most of you since I started out here. I realize that Autism and Android were an unlikely pair but I thought it worked well.
Lately there has been an increasing level intolerance for what I was trying to do here. I know it's a vocal minority but they have become louder and louder. I have become quite disheartened as of late with the direction this forum has taken and I'm going to step back for a while. My ultimate goal is to further the spread of Autism Awareness and hopefully get Android4Autism launched by the end of the summer or early fall and so I'm going to redirect my efforts there.
I honestly had the best of intentions with everything I was doing here but it has apparently run it's course. Aside from asking you to "think about donating your old devices for the Android4Autism project (and I specifically said not until after everything was set up and legit so that everyone was protected) and votes, I never asked for anything. Despite the claims that have been made to the contrary about my intentions.
I want to thank everyone for voting for my blog but as you may notice the thread has been moved after being here for over 2 1/2 months. I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread. I thought it was amazing how everyone unified and worked together for a common goal. I suspect that the vocal minority contributed to this and that saddens me. I'm not angry this happened, it's just that fact that some people would take it upon themselves to get this removed from our forums after all this time, instead of just not reading it.
I'm not looking for anything out of this. After all you have given to me, I felt I owed you an explanation for my decision. That's the very least I can do. I'll never be able to repay all the kindness and support you have shone to both me and my family. You have all made a difference in our lives. You have helped to spread awareness and for that I will forever be grateful.
Please don't turn this into a flame war either. I'll close the thread myself. I just want everyone to understand how grateful I am for everything and that my stepping back is my choice. My methods are becoming the target for some people and I won't change the way I'm doing things because I believe in what I'm doing. So the best thing is to just walk away. At least for now.
You all know where to find me and I'm happy to help. Please feel free to contact me through my blog or Google+ if you need anything and I will do whatever I can to help you.
Thanks again for everything. I'm very proud of what we were able to accomplish. Please help to keep this community moving forward.
Rob

Keep up the great work , Sir !

Forget about those that complain about everything, what you do is great! Besst of luck to you!
Sent from my SPH-D700

WTG blank HEADS!!!!! another bomb dev/human gone... this is why most ppl stayed at ppcgeeks for so long... tooo much bs and neg energy...
ill miss your work ptfdmedic.. best of luck for you and your growing family!!

Thanks Rob for all that you do. And I hope you don't let this get you down too much. I remember when I first came to this forum and I thought what is this autism stuff all about here but as I took the time to read and learn I appreciated what you were doing and felt it was a great cause. If the bs here isn't worth your time I can hardly blame you. You've been far more generous with it than most would be. I as I am sure most people wish you nothing but the best!
-Jason
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im sorry to see u go rob will miss you and i hope u and emmett(sp?) and family (sp?)
do well.
Thanks for all your hard work and i know you will be missed i hit thanks for you, goal is to break that thank meter, i really want to see one full
Farewell and best wishes
- David

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I realize that it was not "on topic" but it was a positive thread.
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.

Thank you for what you have done.
As much as I would like to point fingers at those responsible I will refrain from it because you asked me not to.
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You will be missed. I haven't been on as often as I used to because of all the BS here, but I still lurk and you will be missed!

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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?

Rob,
Keep up the good work brother! Hopefully things will calm down here while you focus on your rom! I sent you a PM a while back... I may have some connections in the school (if you don’t already). Might help in pushing your rom on a local basis. Stay strong, God bless, and good luck in your endeavors!
From one medic to another... you're alright in my book!
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Not trying to be a **** but this sentence pretty much sums it up.
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?

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Yes, yes you are.
How hard is it to not click on threads about things you're not interested in?
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+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro

im not a homer by any means but when my Epic took a swim i was forced to boot my moment up and went back to SDX developers for roms..i REALLY wished the Epic would have caught on over there..just seems like a much better environment....this site has driven away quite a few developers..its a shame..thanks for everything you do rob.not just over here but with your Windows Mobile stuff over at PPCGeeks.if people cant tolerate your Autism Awareness, with all the good stuff you put out for the Epic, then this isnt the place for them..it shouldnt be the other way around...

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Yes, yes you are.
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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the elimination of homosexualaity a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Rob asked us to not turn it into a flaming thread, but you sure don't make it easy. Funny how you have been on xda 2 months, but have only posted 21 times and you choose to post on this... why are you trying to start something?
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Regardless of what Rob has given to us (the community) why does he not have to follow the rules of the forum? Why is it appropriate for him to come and complain that his thread was moved to the correct forum and he is quitting because he disagrees with the opinion of those that pay for and/or manager this resource to be available to us?
@dnathan13: Regarding your comment on my membership length here... What Android software have you developed in your lengthy membership in these forums?

Medic,
I got another one for you, like old times: "The best way to fight negative acts is with perseverance, love and the truth"
Stay the course my friend and don't let nobody tell you lies about the truth you cary...
Sent from an Epic with 4G

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+1 no matter how kind and sincere you can be in a post there is always gonna be the one degenerate at the keyboard thinking "How can I dump on this guy."
As for the OP, keep up the good work bro
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Fail to see how pointing out that we must play by the rules the owners of this site set is "dumping on someone". It's reality, if you don't like it create your own forum and set the rules...
EDIT: I have nothing against Rob's cause and believe the thread is in the correct forum now...

Rob, I've supported you ever since I heard about you and your cause. You are one of the few members here that has gained my respect. I thank you for *Everything* you've done here.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

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Just as hard as it is to follow the forum rules. Say for instance that I considered the extermination of homosexuals a "positive cause". Should I be allowed to push that agenda here at the cost of the owners of the site simply because I think this is a positive agenda? (According to some users, yes...)
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Really?
I don't believe any HUMAN being would have a problem with autism awareness.
Like comparing apples and oranges.
Smh
Thanks Rob. I've enjoyed reading and learning from you. I've been a member pretty much since the epic launched, lurked and just read alot; lately its hard not to respond to some of this.
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Keep that head up Rob we are all still behind you. You showed us a piece of yourself and your family here and became a friend to most of us. Keep in mind one thing, you are dealing with a lot of minors on heee and they cant grasp the idea they are ****ting on you with some of the comments about your intentions. They arent mature enough to see how it comes out. The mature adults will remain on your side.
Never feel you asked for anything or too much. Your community came together to give you what you deserved without you asking for it.
Take a rest man play with those kids, your headed in the right direction with the autism awareness, families will benefit from your sweat!
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So long and thanks for all the fish

This will be my last thread here. XDA is no longer the site I once loved and cherished.
Thank you to all the devs here who've had made my Shift awesome and who I've learned so much from.
Thank you to all the friends I've made here. I'd be sad to leave you but I know that I'll still be seeing all who matter in Huddle or IRC.
ALL HAIL OTAKING71, THE RAPER OF HBOOT!!!

Hate to see you go man but completely understand. See ya in the irc and huddle

I hate to see it too,not far behind see ya in the huddle!
Sent from my PG06100 using xda premium

Well this sucks! But we will still be in contact... unfortunately, or should I say fortunately, I will be cancelling my membership shortly. Certain people have turned their backs to the TRUE community members and it saddens me because I too enjoyed this site at one point... see you in the huddle boss!
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Aww that sucks. I am close to the same point though.
and where is the Huddle at? Im assuming you mean google+ do I just search for EVO Shift then?

Gonna miss you man. XDA has changed in last 9 months i've been here and not for the good either
Sent from my evo shift as mods are retarded

what used to be different about xda? ever since i got an evo shift and my friend told me about xda i've been hooked. i'm on here everyday finding out new information. this thread makes no sense to me...

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what used to be different about xda? ever since i got an evo shift and my friend told me about xda i've been hooked. i'm on here everyday finding out new information. this thread makes no sense to me...
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A major part of it from what I have seen since I've been here is the quality of the people. Not accusing or placing blame on anyone. But there is a major difference from when I joined in march to now.
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I understand completely, as I used to be very active on here, but do little more than lurk in the shadows these days. The people here are rude miscreants, the mods/admins are power tripping paedophiles living in there moms basements, and there is really nothing posted on here that cannot be done with a minor understanding of linux and java.
P.S. After what the mods did with Indirect, while supporting a scam artist, I feel confident of a ban. So, to the mod that bans me, I forgive you already, as I have worked hard to put myself in an excellent place in life, you have not, so I understand the anger. Look at this way, at least you and your mother will have a dinner topic to discuss (as opposed to the ususal conversations about the health of her favorite cats).

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I understand completely, as I used to be very active on here, but do little more than lurk in the shadows these days. The people here are rude miscreants, the mods/admins are power tripping paedophiles living in there moms basements, and there is really nothing posted on here that cannot be done with a minor understanding of linux and java.
P.S. After what the mods did with Indirect, while supporting a scam artist, I feel confident of a ban. So, to the mod that bans me, I forgive you already, as I have worked hard to put myself in an excellent place in life, you have not, so I understand the anger. Look at this way, at least you and your mother will have a dinner topic to discuss (as opposed to the ususal conversations about the health of her favorite cats).
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Was talking to Indirect on IRC.
He wanted me to tell you he says thanks cloverdale and that you can find him in the shift forums of sdx.

I have to say i totally agree, im sorry to say xda is corrupt... even though the devs are great this has gone to far. 1 month ago the shift forums were a peaceful place, we all got along knowing that every shift is different... now mandatory donations and jerks come along
LET THE HUDDLE LIVE ON!

Well, this thread appears to be full of mature people doesn't it?
Closing this before someone else calls us "power tripping paedophiles living in their moms basements"