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Can we stop bashing new people in here please

I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!

Can you give us example what you're saying?

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justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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justwonder said:
Can you give us example what you're saying?
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You being serious?

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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100% agree!
Well said!

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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Somebody needs a nap ....
But on a serious note I guess we should just stop having rules altogether ....
If bashing people is what you call expecting people even newbs to follow the rules then I guess bashing it is ...
Not totally disagreeing with you, but partially , yes sometimes vets are harsh with newbs, but if 500 people walked up to you and asked you the same question over and over how long would it take for you to get tired of it ....

ok then i just have my rule
Well I dont want to continue because it seems the majority of vets are annoyed at new users. So now I will have this rule from now on to make things simple. Any time I see this behavoir towards newbies , I will post a link to www.ppcgeeks.com . So since newbies are a problem to the vets here, I will redirect them to different website. That should handle all the problems.

zarpy said:
I am starting to see when a new person who has no idea of how things work asks a question and gets bashed. Iam wondering do any of the xda-developer vets want xda-developers to grow or die out? New people once they learn how things work , might later start developing new and exciting products. Can we please show them some respect. Thank you for reading!
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XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
It's very easy to pop in here and create ANOTHER useless thread asking everyone to be nice to the newbies.
All the senior members here were all newbies once. All the chefs and developers were newbies too. They didn't get to be where they are by starting up useless HELP ME threads because they were too lazy to get off their behinds and help themselves.
I've been here since 2006 and my post count very recently crossed 500. I've hung out at XDA almost every single day since the day I officially joined and about another year before that without being a member. I've learnt A LOT over here and given everything that I've learnt, if I were to have posted a HELP ME thread everytime I wanted something, I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now. Think about how many threads and posts we would have from heavily contributing members if they were to take the HELP ME route.
I've been around here so long and know enough people here that no one would have an issue with me opening a thread for any query that I have, yet I don't... why? because XDA is a repository. Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
I can understand how overwhelming everything can be for a newbie, but that still doesn't excuse the HELP ME threads. SEARCH, Look around, do your due diligence and you will find what you need. Nothing comes easy. You have to work for it. Google Search makes things exceptionally easy. Use it and stop crapping this place up.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet. I swear to god, if I was a mod here, the trash can would be overflowing.
Please... stop these incessant rants.
@zarpy.. PPCGeeks is miniscule compared to XDA. Trust me, the mods and the members over there take care of their forum more aggressively than XDA. It's only a matter of time before they start booting LAZY newbies.

Yeah I agree with this, I find it funny like people were born with the knowledge and talk to people who are clueless like they were never in there shoes before. I myself just got a HD2 not to long ago never really used a phone of the sort with apps and etc. I am however tech smart with PCs and like to learn on my own as it benefits you in the long run so I've picked up the basics just by doing. But not everyone is tech smart especially with phones as a lot of it I do not have a clue what it means even though I am tech smart, but I'm learning what does what slowly and how to install different types of apps, games, and themes
If some of you veterans with these phones disagree with this, your simply a liar and should go play in a fire

rumz82 said:
You being serious?
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Don't you want to understand what is going on, before you're saying?

Can someone explain what this has to do with "Themes and Apps" please?
Honestly...Noobs...

Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.

justwonder said:
Stay tune, OP will redirect you to another site, your question will be answered.
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LOL... Oh boy that was funny. LOL

HELP ME IM NEW and opps i had caps on four icons to look goodier lyke iphone has

I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all. Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted? I'm willing to bet a very small percentage did infact, READ ALL of the rules. So many (not all) of you really have no room to point fingers.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ROFL AT THE OP!!!
OMFG you actually started a thread because someone detailed a few rules!!
And the example you posted of getting bashed....i just reported the entire thread for closure as it is a complete waste of time...much like this one!!
Thanks for the chuckle over breakfast... most hilarious!
wolfee said:
I can see both sides of this point... Yes the search feature is important, and relitivley easy. Most of the bashing is because people dont use it.
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Bingo!!
wolfee said:
But have you all ever stopped to think about this lil situation?
You are looking for an app, but have no clue what it is called???
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Regardless you wouldnt start new threads asking "Whats that app called....."
or another find eg is the one here "Please help me install icons" i mean WTF, if the guy has icons, he got them from a thread right? EXACTLY, so y not post the question there? common sense no?
wolfee said:
Or you are from another country, and have difficulty writing English, even though you can speak it clearly enough.
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Im sorry to sound like a jerk, but who the hell cares about this....
first forum rule is "USE ENGLISH"
therefore who gives a crap, if you cant speak the language use one of the million free translators and post in English, followed by your native language.
wolfee said:
Then there are the noobs that have no clue (like my self) and come looking for help or ask a question to learn.
Many crash in flames because the people who know the answers, only shoot em down. Even after using the search feature. (yes I have seen this situation here as well)
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Ok the reason you would get bashed is if your asking easily findable questions.
Someone ask a dumb question i think they should get bashed, before i answer ANY questions i google search for an answer, if i find one on the first page, the the person asking the question will get no answer and flamed/bashed.
wolfee said:
The easy solution is to just not post a flaming bash to the question, or better yet, just dont post anything at all.
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How about people dont post stupid questions? do you ever think that with the size of this site, the vet users dont get p*ssed off with noobs asking the same things over and over again?
wolfee said:
Someone that does know and has compassion will answer at some point. Or the person asking will do a search or search again or at some point.
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these peope with compasion, while good for you, they are actually bad, because in stead of forcing you into a position where you actually have to search after being bashed and told that it is a stupid/easy/useless question they just give the answers.
wolfee said:
It takes more effort to post a bash than it does to point them in the rite direction and teach the noobs.
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WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!!!
WTF man, seriously you think we should spend our time teaching noobs?8 years ago i used to get smashed to pieces but the likes of Olipro, and if you think people bash now you should have seen him when he was about...wow...i think you would be crying in the corner!
I run 2 HUGE threads in this forum, and i got that sick after the thousands of idiots that couldnt even be bothered to read the instructions and just posted things like "Help i cant do it"
we need more Olipro's to get rid of the IDIOT noobs who CANNOT BE ARSED SEARCHING.
TEACHING ROFL, jes, would you like me to come to your house and dress you for school too?
wolfee said:
The old saying "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" REALLY fits here.
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Again more rubbish, people not a days are just too LAZY to do things for themselves.
how about this "Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer"
ROFL PWNED!!!
wolfee said:
Question for all of you to ask your self... When you signed up here, did you READ ALL of the rules before you posted?
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Yes
and initially i asked stupid questions and i got flames and bashed, but i wasnt a ***** and i didnt cry about it ans start threads asking people to stop bashing me.
i learnt that if i was getting bashed there was a reason and i accepted that, where as now we hae the folowing:
1: Guy ask Stupid Question
2: Vets Bash
3: Guy crys
4: Guy opens more threads asking about "why am i getting bashed"
5: vets see the thread and get more P*ssed dish out mroe bashing
6: Guy crys more
7: Guy posts the eg of why he gets bashed in the new "why am i getting bashed" thread
8: Vets come along and thing WTF is this guys problem is he stupid?
here is the ULTIMATE easy solution
Search using xda search, search using google search, when posting your question past in the URL for the results of your search so people can see how you searched/what terms you used
then i Guarantee there will be no flames, and probably a few suggestion on changing search terms etc

Read and Search is the key to not posting usless threads
leepriestenator said:
XDA will grow no matter what but if you think that XDA is more interested in the number of users it has, you are sadly mistaken.
I would have probably raked in about 10k posts by now.
Every question that anyone can think of has already been asked and has already been discussed.
Honestly, IMO, the mods here are really nice. Too nice infact. People here get away with just about anything. If you guys think people here are tough then you haven't seen how strict things are around the internet.
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Couldn´t be more than agree with you leepriestenator, except for the part of the 10k posts
I am almost there
P.S Mods please move to proper discussion place

MG
I know alot of people read Mystics Genius post and thought damn cavemen exist in this day and age.
Laughing my a&+) off hahahaha you said 8 years ago you got bashed here by olipro. Your join date is 2008 its 2010 .....hahahahha where"s your math teacher he did a horrible job hahahahaha.
You this thread was opened by a newbie that wants to know why he got thrash. Your english teacher didnt teach you how to read properly hahaha.
Iam a vet here , I opened this thread because Iam tired of this attitude thats starting to take place.
You remembered when you used to get bashed and thrashed , so you think its right. How dumb are you , so if your dad beat you everyday, does that mean you beat your son? I hope not!!! You suppose to learn , but you stayed aan idiot all this time. 8 years and you learn nothing hahahahaha your the true definition of moron. Iam not mad, I think your a joke hahahahaha.

I just hope you guys don't expect your doctors, lawyers, police officers and everyone else of importance in life to answer your questions...that have been asked and asked over and over again. The answers to your heart problems are on the internet. A little Bing search will find them. You don't need to bother your doctor with clarification questions.
Please stop harrassing your lawyers. They answer the exact same questions you ask time and again. They must be so sick of answering those questions over and over again. All of the answers you can think of are clearly posted online. Do a search of Google or Bing and stop asking your important people questions.

hmmm.... i feel that as newbie

Gingerbread

Oh my goodness, there are just SO many Gingerbread threads. I do know what I would do if I see another thread about Gingerbread. Do you agree?

I dunno whether you thought this was funny or not..... it wasn't

cymru said:
I dunno whether you thought this was funny or not..... it wasn't
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Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads. Don't visit the thread if you don't want to read the thread, but for people that do, or think they do, reading through a dozen 'OMG FFFFFUUUUUU' comments is quite irritating.
Relax and breathe! The Interwebs does what the Interwebs does.

Yeah, clutter is so much fun. And you're soooo edgy!

Fail
(+6)..

Is this what passes for wit these days?

daijizai said:
Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads.
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...and yet you don't seem to understand how annoying it is for everyone else, who came here to try and find information, but struggle because of how many threads there are on the same subject?
The rules say search before starting a new thread. They say that for a reason (to keep down the clutter).
The purpose of forums is to encourage discussions with people of common interests, in a common location. Starting a new thread goes completely against this concept, since you now have to go to multiple locations... Monitoring multiple threads for news on Gingerbread (or anything else) is a PIA.
The whole board is full of people asking the same stuff over and over again. It's not because they don't know how to search. It's because there's just way too many threads on the same subject, making searching a nightmare. Not only is information dispersed, you also have a much higher potential for conflicting information...
As a Sr Systems Engineer, I would've thought you'd understand about duplication of information being being a major obstacle in configuration management?
Thanks for helping, though... :sarcasm:
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daijizai said:
Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads. Don't visit the thread if you don't want to read the thread, but for people that do, or think they do, reading through a dozen 'OMG FFFFFUUUUUU' comments is quite irritating.
Relax and breathe! The Interwebs does what the Interwebs does.
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Oh wow, you're such a mellow, free spirit with such wit and charm.
Go play psychologist somewhere else. Nobody here is interested in the human response to multiple threads. We just want to hear news about our phones. Your thread serves no purpose here. Get your attention fix from a different forum.

Fail.......

Great thread , if ya ever wanted to expose the trolls in a forum this is the way to do it. Good job lol

Mod, lock this waste of space!!

EarthsiegeTA said:
Is this what passes for wit these days?
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Its what passes for a half-wit

I love how XDA Developers has gone to **** lately.
Threads like this are a large part of it.

Man, I'm so glad that silly jokes don't bother me instead of me being a pompous ****bag. Actually, Pompous ****bag is a great band! Their many hits include:
"Lock This Thread!"
"Ban This Guy!"
"I Hope You Brick Your Phone!"
"I Let Other People Get My Goat On The Internet Of All Places."
And many more!

http://market.android.com/search?q=pname:com.google.android.ytremote
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Xda admin should charging trolls!
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To the regs here in the Epic forums:

We seriously need to calm down and post in a civilized manner. I see far too many immature and unnecessary posts that only flame at other posts. There is no reason to tell someone they're stupid for posting something from an ignorant's perspective. If they don't know and they're asking, then politely point them in the right direction. No need to bash on them. Granted, there are some pretty stupid/idiotic questions asked here (some intended for trolling) but still, DONT FEED THE FIRE. Let it go, calm down, and post like they are right in front of you. DONT HIDE BEHIND THE INTERNET TO GET AWAY WITH DISRESPECTING OTHERS! It seriously gets old fast. Act like adults please!
/endrant

Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?

herzzreh said:
Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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i see nowhere on the general section (which, this kind of topic would be under) where this topic is mentioned. Because apparently, it seems like the Epic forums are filled with little high schoolers who think swearing is cool. Because honestly, it isn't.
BUT, if there is a thread requesting others to be more civilized, then I apologize.

Not this topic, but other topics. Sorry, I should've worded it differently.
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+1. This forum has become unwelcoming and almost frightening to post a question within. People around these parts need to chill out.

ONe of the best threads I've read in a while. There are a lot of times where I see people as a question and instead of getting a simple answer they get a bash from someone. We all need to understand that nit everyone knows the same thing. What may be a dumb question to you is not to the op and other people that need to know too. If you have nothing better to do then flame people for their questions don't come on here. Go somewhere else. We obviously dont need you. Thanks

herzzreh said:
Overall, I agree with you. But.. is there really a need to start a new thread about some **** that already has five other threads on the front page?
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i c wut u did der
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I totally agree with you. I know if ii ask any question and any little highschool or immature brat insults me. Don't go crying to the mods about me handing your ass to you on a wooden plate. So kids let's be nice and remember what we were taught in kindergarden "the golden rule".
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Replies are always "wow. You should've searched." Um...the xda app doesn't search. It fc's. And also, whosdaman likes to close general threads about people that wanna know thins about froyo or any other "GENERAL" question.
Not everyone is on these forums 24/7 to be knowing that updates that were announced weeks ago were suddenly canceled.
Not everyone is tech savvy enough to use odin.
Not everyone undertsands the differences between dk28 and di18.
If you're gonna respond by telling someone they should search before posting, why not give them a link to follow leading them to the appropriate thread? That way they can see "oh crap. I should search next time, cuz that's what I was looking for." Assuming they're not on the app, ofcourse.
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And sometimes you follow the instructions and it just won't work for you. (I know, I couldn't get odin to work for me until I used a different cable.) I had lots of help down to step by step instructions. Without the help, I would still have a dead Epic.
I also second keeping thing civil. If we don't we will chase away a lot of good people and information.
George

I agree with the OP every bit.
And besides, at one point even the most tech savvy people were noobs. Everyone had to start somewhere, and asking questions is a good way to learn. Now the pointless questions are about the "delayed" updates Samsung promises. Although, there is no point to get into that once again. The search feature on the XDA app doesn't work, which is also not helpful to new members at all. I agree, just point them in the right direction, and move on, without the snotty attitude. It really isn't that difficult.
I'll be honest, I'm only 14, and I know better than to be rude or swear on the internet when someone isn't familiar with something new.

Not your typical rant.......

First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Couldn't agree more. I've been a longtime member with a very low post count. Unless you're the first or second person to download a rom and notice a secific bug to report, the community is large enough that very rarely do you need to post as someone else already has.
Not to mention its a self perpetuating problem. If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.

Typical rant.
You opened a new thread, clogging the front page just like those you hate.
The words you speak will never truly reach those who don't read before posting... by definition.
Waste of time and space, get over yourself.

Why does this bother people so much. Ignore the threads/questions if you have an issue with them. Some people aren't aware of the resources. Being a prick about it doesn't help. These same rants have been done over and over and over...
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What a SHOCKER! Another typical "non-typical" rant.
But, you know, you're right. No one should be allowed to post until they've read all 3000+ posts in this forum. No one is allowed to ask other's opinions on the best ROM. No one is allowed to think differently than you.
Wanna know why the HTC side is so good? It's not because HTC releases source code (You should have seen the community in the early days before anyone released code). It's because the users are helpful. They contribute. They don't rant.
You, and users like you, are the reason the community is falling apart. Get in there and answer some questions. Contribute. Post to the useful threads so they stay close to the top. Add to the Wiki. Don't sit around and complain. These forums are for everyone, not just you.
You have only 12 posts, and the only thing you can contribute is "restart your phone" or "use a different USB cable?"
Here's my plea for the mods to lock this thread before we spiral out of control. What do you mean, it's too late?

compuw22c said:
If less people were posting the same thing 10 times, there would only be 1/10th the amount of posts to read through to find your answer to begin with.
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Or, you could post a like to the wiki, pointing the noobs in the right direction. Answer the question and the thread falls to the bottom, and useful stuff with high post counts rise to the top.
Here's an example:
"Hey man, totally get where you're coming from. Rooting seems tricky, but it's not. Here's the guides in the wiki. It's got most of your questions answered. The search is useful if you can't find it there. Glad to have you on XDA.
But I guess it's much more useful to post inane responses on useless threads. Crap floats.

ms79723 said:
A lot of people say that, and yeah, people need to do some research first or something...but for some people..they really aren't being lazy or anything, they just really dont know that thats what they are supposed to do.
Let me put it like this..I saw this on my facebook yesterday. Someone I know was asking how somebody got their phone to look they way it did (the guy took a screenshot of his Vibrant with a Gingerbread theme). The guy told him to either ask me or to come to xda. Now, the guy who asked had a Hero and doesnt know what rooting is...he probably doesnt even know how a forum (or really, how this forum) works. So when he gets here, the first thing he'll do is register and make a thread asking that question. Since he'd be a new user, he wouldn't know how many times the question has been asked, hell, he wouldnt even really know where to look. It'd be his only question and to him, he thinks that he'll be able to get the answer and leave and its done.
Now, thats the only time I say we should tolerate such behavior. but for users that have been on here a while and have been posting and contributing, there's no excuse.
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I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.

flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
I'm also one of those old members with years of lurking experience, because i know to search. But, at the same time, i don't tell people to do it. He'll i barley give advice... Mainly because i just come here, give rep, and get what info I need and then leave.
Let the forums grow i say... the more questions are asked, the easier they can be answered later, because of the keywords aspect. If someone doesnt know the keywords, they will ask a question with wrong ones, and then get corrected. and later down the line, someone searching with the same wrong keywords can find the answer... At least i hope it works out like that, i would like to think it does to some degree...
Anyways... my 2c

The only problem I have with searching is this: my laptop crashed a while back so I haver to search with the phone and xda app. The xda app search sucks. It brings up irrelevant posts. So since i can't use the search feature, unless I go to the site through the web browser, I just read the wiki and search post by post lol. I am for the side that says, if you don't like the post don't read it. Be helpful, not insane. Some attitudes on here are equivalent to some one coming up to you on a street, new to the town, and asking where mcdonalds is, and some of your responses would be: Look up in the sky for the big f?%#ing golden arches before I shot you in the head with my glock. That is a little over board. I say search, but if the didn't don't get mad.
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JettMartinez said:
I don't buy that at all. If you've been on the internet more than 10 minutes, searching should always be your first instinct.
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Man, more people are familiar with school than the internet...and in school you usually ask the teachers questions before you whip out your book to find the answer. Most people also try to act like themselves online like they do in real life...and since in a real life situation there more likely to ask a question than search for the answer...so first instinct would probably be asking that question, that is, if you arent used to forums (specifically this one).

Very serious business.

warrior420 said:
flat out, most people just dont even know what to search for, keywords will get you the right information, but also knowing the key words is what is troubling the new people.
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This.
When you see question, give an answer. At least point them to the wiki so they can learn the things to search for.
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I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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RushAOZ said:
I have more of a problem with the **** stains that walk in and flame you than with noobies posting the same questions again and again. In fact im pretty sure there are more posts accumulated bashing noobs than there are noob question posts. Swing that pendelum the other way. Your the problem. Stfu and contribute or don't enter the post. Better yet log out. Usually the ones that ***** are the ones that spend way too much time on here. Only ones that get to complain are devs cuz we owe it to them
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This is just about the most typical rant you can find on this board.. 1000 miles away from non typical

Elite11b said:
First off let me say that this is not against Sprint or Samsung (shocker). I know my way around a computer but am no way a developer. Before I ever loaded a rom I read and did my research it took me betweem 24 to 48 hours before I felt confident enough to root and flash and if I had any questions I searched the forums for a solution. Its not hard. Now here comes the complaint. I know they say there are no stupid questions but damn, I see the same question over and over again when there are easily found answers right in front of your face. Don't be lazy and read, no one one here gets paid to answer your questions that have already been answered. I'm not saying there aren't legitimate questions because there are plenty of them and that's not what is bothering me at all. I guess what I'm trying to get at is do the effing research take your time and you will figure it out, and stop asking what is the best rom it is the most worthless question on here because no one can give you the right answer. One more thing if you do run into a problem try and figure it out before running to the computer and then maybe you could actually contribute. That's all sorry for such a long post.
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Can a brother get a carriage return?
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Failing to search occurs in ANY forum out there. The difference with the Epic scene is we have more self-proclaimed moderators than any board I am a member of. There are simply too many people trigger happy to call out a “noob” who may or may not know what it is that they are looking for.
It’s a shame that we are so quick to assume that someone is lazy.
I am here several times a day. More often than not, you will see folks spending more time correcting other’s forum posting etiquette than actually helping or contributing. In the other forums I frequent (mostly cars), the members actually help one another and asking questions, regardless of them previously posted, is no problem at all.
Go figure, the forums where mistakes cost A LOT more money in damages is stress-free compared to one that can almost always be fixed with a good old odin.

I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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Elite11b said:
I definitly feel like an ass for posting this in the first place. I guess I should have been more specific when I posted. I apologize to anyone I offended. I have no problem helping anyone that needs help it just aggravates me when people ask a question one a thread that was answered on the previous page. But whatever I honestly don't give two squirts what people think about me.
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I think you were saying what you felt and there is no harm in that. You were not out of line in the way you said it. It was simply something you felt like expressing.
I don’t believe your last sentence though. It contradicts your first sentence.

No it's true I just regret not being more specific about what I was saying. Anyway life is full of contradictions
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has anyone noticed a rise in the numder of noobs floating around here lately.

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol

Bierce22 said:
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
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I'll agree with that.IMO it's just that this phone is a little long in the tooth,and a lot of the really good devs have moved on. Also a lot of the people that were really helpful(not saying all of them,there are still some that help.)have moved on to other phones,and if you look at the sigs. of the mods they are involved with many other phones which eats up a lot of they're time.And I think they're leaving some of the policing to us unless it gets out of hand,like over they're in the thread where it got a little heated....

I'm only posting here because I liked the thread title
I kinda agree with you, I noticed the same thing about the necro bumping.
Another thing, is what happened to the search button?? It seems to have disappeared lately
btw (numder =/= number)
Also Bierce22.. does this thread have anything to do with that deleting emails thread in the Dev section?

Also Bierce22.. does this thread have anything to do with that deleting emails thread in the Dev section?
you saw that lol...
and yes.
Also fowatine or whatever his name is really pissed me off yesterday when he started bashing my thread "help switching to a modified prl" when he didint try to read what was going on.

hey does anyone want to nominate me for a mod ill clean up this town......
jk lol

Bierce22 said:
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed an increased number of bumped ancient threads for no reason at all ppl bashing on threads for no reason and people posting in wrong sections did the mods go on vacation or something lol
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We are all new at one time, and some of us (like me) post wrong because we're just learning the ropes..

yea but my point is if i ever posted in th wrong section i would get bashed and flamed instantly now those posts seem to sit for awhile

Bierce22 said:
yea but my point is if i ever posted in th wrong section i would get bashed and flamed instantly now those posts seem to sit for awhile
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Maybe those pricks have moved on,,, LoL

Yeah I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous lately. No **** I didnt post on xda for about a year, I just looked around and read things and figured stuff out. Yes we were all noob at one point, but that didn't forgive all things. I can't wait to get my evo 3d
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il Duce said:
Yeah I gotta say it's pretty ridiculous lately. No **** I didnt post on xda for about a year, I just looked around and read things and figured stuff out. Yes we were all noob at one point, but that didn't forgive all things. I can't wait to get my evo 3d
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You must come from the unix world , to be able to figure linux . Coming from DEC's VMS world , unix never made sense to me .LoL
Also a lot of the grabassing is being done by "senior" members, remember "you can't fix stupid, but ignorance can be taught"

The biggest reason for the influx of new users to the Hero forum is because the phone has become so outdated (especially with Sprint no longer selling it). People are always looking to get the most out of their purchase, and many will wait until their contract or warranty has expired to being modifying their devices.
EDIT: Also, the more cluttered the forum becomes, the more difficult it can be for a new user to search and find what they need. There is so much clutter in the forums now that it could conceivably take hours to find out all the information on all of the available modifications. You could attempt to search for a solution to an issue, only to find several threads saying "please search for a solution" and one thread actually stating the solution. The time when senior users stuck to only posting informative, concise responses has passed.

jasonmaloney said:
The biggest reason for the influx of new users to the Hero forum is because the phone has become so outdated (especially with Sprint no longer selling it). People are always looking to get the most out of their purchase, and many will wait until their contract or warranty has expired to being modifying their devices.
EDIT: Also, the more cluttered the forum becomes, the more difficult it can be for a new user to search and find what they need. There is so much clutter in the forums now that it could conceivably take hours to find out all the information on all of the available modifications. You could attempt to search for a solution to an issue, only to find several threads saying "please search for a solution" and one thread actually stating the solution. The time when senior users stuck to only posting informative, concise responses has passed.
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agreed....

enough with the smiles already...
enough with the smiles already lol
i can do it to lol.
i cant believe i got a thx for that lol.

i defintly think there needs to another mod for the hero deca and theimpaler cant be everywere at once.

Bierce22 said:
enough with the smiles already...
enough with the smiles already lol
i can do it to lol.
i cant believe i got a thx for that lol.
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Aw, does someone need a hug??
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also whats up with that luisdg dude hes bumped like 4 threads up in the last 10min
case in point... lmao

Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?

stayclean said:
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
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touche stayclean tocuhe..

stayclean said:
Anyone notice a rise in the numder of people who cannot spell or put together a coherent sentence lately?
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Don't even start. I often am able to offer assistance but decline to do so simply because despite not having the time to search, some users seem to also not have the time to type a properly worded post/question.
why didntthiswork on idk whutsgoin on wid itt radish sum1plzhlp

haha autocorect and texting ruined my typing ability lmao.