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Bakedsnack thread closed

Does anyone know why this got closed? Was it due to the childish stuff that was going on?
Thanks.

Look through the forums, the mod has posted his reasoning in the BS 1.6 thread, whether its true or not is a personal oppinion, mine will not be broadcast, but there you go
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Seanc13 said:
Look through the forums, the mod has posted his reasoning in the BS 1.6 thread, whether its true or not is a personal oppinion, mine will not be broadcast, but there you go
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I must have missed it. Tried to find a reason in that thread. So I assume that mod will no longer be supported here?

mynewepic10 said:
I must have missed it. Tried to find a reason in that thread. So I assume that mod will no longer be supported here?
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check the op, xda mod edited it
what a drama whore.... he makes some decent roms but very much likes to QQ

johnsongrantr said:
check the op, xda mod edited it
what a drama whore.... he makes some decent roms but very much likes to QQ
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Yea I found it after I posted my last one. It is really sad, as I tried out his rom and got great battery life. I had almost 15 hrs from full charge to battery blinking. Have yet to get that with anyone else.

I personally think the mods should have closed all the other rom/kernel threads and just left Herver's open.
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nobloat said:
I personally think the mods should have closed all the other rom/kernel threads and just left Herver's open.
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Still absolutely no problems with any of his ROMs! He didnt want to give up his code source (so other devs could see his work) and that is against the "GPL" guidelines. This happens everytime he puts out a ROM on here. I would suggest going to BakeSnackShack.com to keep updated and support him. He said he was going to make it a free forum soon so we will see....but I will pay $5 for each and everyone of his roms!
PS I have the links if anyone still wants Version 1.6....
Unplugged 15hrs and at 78% battery.....I mean come on!

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Still absolutely no problems with any of his ROMs! He didnt want to give up his code source (so other devs could see his work) and that is against the "GPL" guidelines. This happens everytime he puts out a ROM on here. I would suggest going to BakeSnackShack.com to keep updated and support him. He said he was going to make it a free forum soon so we will see....but I will pay $5 for each and everyone of his roms!
PS I have the links if anyone still wants Version 1.6....
Unplugged 15hrs and at 78% battery.....I mean come on!
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Is that 15 hrs with light usage?

It really sucks for Epic development in general. I thought we were on a roll there for a while with all the great ROM's and development going on. Weather you like his ROM's or not, the more dev's the better. Is there this much bickering and drama on other device forums?

So basically if you do not release your code you are not in gpl guidelines?

mynewepic10 said:
So basically if you do not release your code you are not in gpl guidelines?
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Yep here is the google def:
Versions entitled GPL Ghostscript are distributed with the GNU General Public License, which allows free use, and free copying and redistribution under certain conditions (including, in some cases, commercial distribution).
I would not want anyone else changing my work and claiming it as there own so I don't blame Hero!
And yes thats light use since I flashed my phone, played some angry birds, texting, and left it unplugged over night (usually a 25% drain/ but last night only 12%)

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I would not want anyone else changing my work and claiming it as there own so I don't blame Hero!
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This is what every phone manufacturer does with Google's stock Android, technically. Which is why the GPL states you must release your source.

mattallica76 said:
Is there this much bickering and drama on other device forums?
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All I can say is I've had 2 other android devices and Ive only started seeing shady/weird stuff since getting this new phone and browsing the epic forums..other devs must think this side of xda is a joke
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twoeleven99 said:
All I can say is I've had 2 other android devices and Ive only started seeing shady/weird stuff since getting this new phone and browsing the epic forums..other devs must think this side of xda is a joke
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What do you mean?

Yea I had 2 other android phones and never seen this type of **** that goes on here,i love my epic but sometimes I wish I went with vibrant cuz it got better roms and forums.

can someone actually just PM me the link to the ultimate kernel? i have 1.6 ROM and babystep and step2 but would like to try ultimate and didnt get a chance to grab it, TIA!
EDIT: nvm, 2 seconds of resourcefulness and i was able to deduce it from the link to one of the other files, thanks anyway

Lol this is sad, not letting someone steal your hard work gets you banned ? That's all I got out of this

Well what I dont understand about GPL is this. Cant you just download the file and then extract out the code to get it?

Same thing happened with the Samsung Moment over at SDX Developers between their board and that ghetto hoodrat DearmasFamily.

MeOverTrance said:
Lol this is sad, not letting someone steal your hard work gets you banned ? That's all I got out of this
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If you modify GPL code then you must release your changes if its released as a binary.
If he's such a great dev then he could start from scratch and attach his own license.
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Why R all the HDMI threads getting closed??

Can anyone give me a detailed answer as to why the HDMI threads are getting closed? I would like to stay informed of the progress and share my experiences with the dev... isn't that why we all come to XDA?
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My guess is because they often turn into arguments of "so-and-so stole code from so-and-so."

theundeadelvis said:
My guess is because they often turn into arguments of "so-and-so stole code from so-and-so."
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This and people report them. I've reported two myself because if I want to watch drama, I'd turn on Jerry Springer or Maury. I come here to learn, see what's new with Android developements, get updates on CM7, MIUI, and the like, and maybe even contribute here and there.
If the HMDI threads can keep out the "Down with Teamwin" and "Orrebmas is two-faced" crap, and maintain meaningful dialog, then the threads will live a nice long life...we'll see what happens to this one.

The XDA drama queen is in the house! Now where were we?
lol j/k
As long as no one pokes me with a stick again, I'm done with it.

These guys are right, it just turns into a feud between teamwin supporters and the ooremmbas(however you spell it) supporters. That guy and team win have achieved awesome things lets just accept the greatness and enjoy our evos. Who cares, ooreammbas gave us hdmi, teamwin gave us 4g the 2 single most important things on our evo. I support them all man.
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I don't understand all the drama either. People just need to shut up and enjoy the awesome work that these devs do. Orrebmas has a thread over on Android Central that seems to be staying civil and on topic.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-24.html

kd0axs said:
I don't understand all the drama either. People just need to shut up and enjoy the awesome work that these devs do. Orrebmas has a thread over on Android Central that seems to be staying civil and on topic.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...dmi-official-fullhdmi-beta-discussion-24.html
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what about the teamwin does anybody know where to get some info on it? about the progress with HDMI?
I would love to follow bough

There was one thread last night saying people who donated would get a "pro version" of the beta. After seeing that I'm not surprised they got shut down.

jpatterson350 said:
Can anyone give me a detailed answer as to why the HDMI threads are getting closed? I would like to stay informed of the progress and share my experiences with the dev... isn't that why we all come to XDA?
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[GPL- Violation] Full HDMI Mirroring(Released)--(NEW UPDATED APP) claims GPL violations. My question to the admins is this. Is the beta apk posted in violation of GPL or the modified kernels or both? If it was the kernel then all that had to be done was have the posted kernels removed. If it was the apk. then there are a hell of a lot of threads that need to be closed on this site.
My personal opinion with regards to this is, the rules are black and white so follow them and enforce them AT ALL TIMES. If there is any confusion/requests (in this case there's a whole lot) as to what the violation is, cite examples of the offending file or post. If no example is given then is looks like typical political BS. As far as "who stole code from whom", post code or GTFO.
To all devs. If you claim to be working on something post links to, or examples of progress or don't post. When you don't show examples it makes the thread/post look like vaporware or BS.
To members. Posting nothing more than "cool" or some of useless drivel makes no sense in a dev thread. If you like then there's a "thanks" button, use it and move on. Dev threads are for test results, bug reports and feature requests. If you want to chat about something in the dev thread there's a "General" forum just a click away. If a general discussion thread is started then request that the OP post a link to it in the first post.

Cjunior said:
what about the teamwin does anybody know where to get some info on it? about the progress with HDMI?
I would love to follow bough
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follow shinzul on twitter for updates, he just posted another video yesterday!
http://twitter.com/#!/Shinzul

xHausx said:
There was one thread last night saying people who donated would get a "pro version" of the beta. After seeing that I'm not surprised they got shut down.
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I believe you misunderstood that post. What he meant was that people who already donated would not have to pay for the final release of the app; not the beta. The beta that is out now is the same whether you have donated or not and is available to anyone.
@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.

DomSim said:
follow shinzul on twitter for updates, he just posted another video yesterday!
http://twitter.com/#!/Shinzul
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thanks man i just started following

rugedraw said:
@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
Off topic but related. TW's development is very tight lipped and from the two vids I've seen I've already found flaws, this doesn't benefit development.

Lokifish said:
That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
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I think that due to the drama that has been circling around anything related to Evo HDMI lately, there is little to no tolerance from the mods for anything that doesn't 100% follow the rules. I myself am partly to blame, because I have been beyond outspoken with my opinions. However, I'm ready to let it go and hopefully the other protagonists to this soap opera are, too.
Maybe someone can start a new thread and it can be kept clean. I'm not going to do it seeing as I am probably not the most popular person on the XDA Evo forum right now, but I think someone should.

Lokifish said:
That's my thought as well, but instead of closing the thread and deleting everything all it would have taken is the removal of one file to be in compliance. It's akin to formatting a HDD because you find one wallpaper offensive, very childish IMHO.
Off topic but related. TW's development is very tight lipped and from the two vids I've seen I've already found flaws, this doesn't benefit development.
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Is this one next?
You have been EVOfied.

rugedraw said:
@Lokifish: It is the SBC HDMI kernel that is in violation of GPL. There is a stock HTC kernel where the only change are the HDMI drivers that were added to it which is not in violation of anything. The app is not in violation of anything, either. A member of this site posted the kernel here after orrebmas had removed the link to it voluntarily to not be in violation of any GPL rules.
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Him not releasing the kernel source changes makes it a GPL violation regardless.
Gotta pay to play, be a true citizen and report the denizens of the internet for GPL violations!

ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.

Justin.G11 said:
ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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The gpl is more than just a rule made up by xda, it is a legal agreement you agree to in order to use the linux kernel.
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Necrosan said:
Him not releasing the kernel source changes makes it a GPL violation regardless.
Gotta pay to play, be a true citizen and report the denizens of the internet for GPL violations!
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If that's the case then there are a lot of threads on XDA that need to be deleted. Actually lets follow precedence and just lock and delete the whole site. This whole thing goes deeper than just his work, it's the "pick and choose" application of forum rules and GPL.
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ooremmbas's project is not open sourced ... and he fully intends to release it as a payed product. He's made no mystery about that. Even if it's not in literal violation of a certain rule ... it's certainly against the spirit of XDA, so I couldn't care less if it gets shutdown.
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What are your options then? Are you going to support a closed development project just because you'll get the app for free? From what little I've seen of the alternative it's already flawed but find me the thread where it's discussed so I can voice this. You can't.
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yay bootloader good news!

http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-bootloader-bypassed
big news
can't wait for some awesome roms... cm7 please?

Just curious why you would create a new thread linking to some blog about that which is already being discussed here on xda?

Oh no the forum police!
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..... Oh no, the anarchists of ignorance!
Seriously... why the hell does everyone get pissy when someone questions the logic of having multiple threads pointing out the same exact thing? You realise that if EVERYONE did that, there would be a post from everybody questioning why the bootloader wasn't unlocked... why HSUPA wasn't working... and so on and so forth.

elementaldragon said:
..... Oh no, the anarchists of ignorance!
Seriously... why the hell does everyone get pissy when someone questions the logic of having multiple threads pointing out the same exact thing? You realise that if EVERYONE did that, there would be a post from everybody questioning why the bootloader wasn't unlocked... why HSUPA wasn't working... and so on and so forth.
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Because they want to feel special. I think we need more then one mod for the atrix section.

Yea... especially when anything newsworthy with the words "boot", "loader", "Gingerbread", or "rom" pop up on the interwebz.

I understand the desire to keep the forums clean. But some people's over enthusiasm can sometimes come of as spiteful or mean. I shouldn't have said what I did, but we're all people here
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True.... but forums aren't a new concept. And it's rare to see a forum that welcomes multiple threads with the same topic with open arms.

I think this thread is a great idea. The other one is full of "this is a Dev thread, don't clutter it up with useless drivel"

actually, this thread is a great idea.
all the "this-is-a-dev-thread-elitist-nazis" can police and berate all the non-dev comments that pop up in the thread located IN THE DEV SECTION.
So what's wrong with having a corresponding thread in the general section that non-dev folks can post in, ask questions, etc without having to take a virtual, condescending ass chewing from the "this-is-a-dev-thread-elitist-nazis"?
*edit* rozzco beat me to the point...

Once again, you all can report and walk away without leaving any comment. It's that simple.

cellzealot just broke my heart and said that it won't work because the radio's won't be restarted under the custom kernel.

Breaking this on a news site was a bad, bad idea...It's completely and utterly premature. There's going to be 5,000 people over the next few days referencing this asking how to accomplish what's mentioned. It'll hit Engadget, and BGR, and then all hell will break loose but nothing will have changed [yet]. Frakking sheeple.

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cellzealot just broke my heart and said that it won't work because the radio's won't be restarted under the custom kernel.
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He makes a strong case.
Do other phones (sections) get jerked around as bad as the Atrix? We've been told the bootloader was cracked, promised an OC mod, and now this? I sure hope this isn't normal.

rozzco said:
He makes a strong case.
Do other phones (sections) get jerked around as bad as the Atrix? We've been told the bootloader was cracked, promised an OC mod, and now this? I sure hope this isn't normal.
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But what cellzealot said is not fact until it is tested on our phone and viseversa with the "backdoor". We just need to look at the cup as half full and not half empty.

CM7 Release Candidate soon? (Purely Speculation!)

In the official post for CyanogenMod 7 it says
"There are many devices still in beta status (Pyramid, Doubleshot, Shooter, HP Touchpad, Optimus 3D, several more) that we will be promoting to release or release-candidates in the next few weeks when the code is merged to our main branch."
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Now this is purely speculation as the title says so if anyone gets disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Now i could be looking at this completely wrong so feel free to call me a dumb ass if i am wrong.
Source: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-1-released

The CM7 project for the Atrix is not being developed by official Cyanogenmod. Just stay tuned to the google code page and follow twitter accounts.

SirFork said:
The CM7 project for the Atrix is not being developed by official Cyanogenmod. Just stay tuned to the google code page and follow twitter accounts.
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Once its in RC don't they give it to the official team for merging? that's what i thought happened from my understanding.

There are many devices still in beta status (Pyramid, Doubleshot, Shooter, HP Touchpad, Optimus 3D, several more) that we will be promoting to release or release-candidates in the next few weeks when the code is merged to our main branch.
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That's from the official Cyanogenmod site, which has no affiliation with the development of CM7 for the Atrix.

Yeah, but the current team is responsible for making the atrix compatible with cm7 (thus, they're doing most of the work). Once that's done, they'll be giving it to the official team so they can support it.
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I'm pretty sure the dev team has said all they need to do is get the fingerprint scanner and webtop working then they can submit it to cyanogen mod to try and get official status, since before cyanogen will accept any port it must not break any functionality that the stock rom had

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I'm pretty sure the dev team has said all they need to do is get the fingerprint scanner and webtop working then they can submit it to cyanogen mod to try and get official status, since before cyanogen will accept any port it must not break any functionality that the stock rom had
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The webtop might take a while since it seems they have to design their own version of it
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Exactly why this is such an ambitious effort. Some people might not have the fortitude (or the patience!) for this phone's technology to be fully realized. For me, I'm kind of excited to own such a unique device and hope the developers aren't discouraged by such a challenge.

SirFork said:
Exactly why this is such an ambitious effort. Some people might not have the fortitude (or the patience!) for this phone's technology to be fully realized. For me, I'm kind of excited to own such a unique device and hope the developers aren't discouraged by such a challenge.
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I think the devs are more discouraged by the trolls.
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IUH1991 said:
I think the devs are more discouraged by the trolls.
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This is probably a huge factor along with the massive number of idiots who fail to read directions properly and end up with bootloops and blame the dev's for making faulty software.

I installed CM7 on my Atrix and now it's running too fast. I can't keep up with it. Also the benchmark scores are too high, and the battery lasts too long. Plz fix.

Phalanx7621 said:
I installed CM7 on my Atrix and now it's running too fast. I can't keep up with it. Also the benchmark scores are too high, and the battery lasts too long. Plz fix.
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HaHa Good one!!!!
I think a lot of the trolls here are just ungrateful...they constantly complaining about things not work like they want them to work and they are constantly bugging the devs about when when when! These same trolls do not take a mere breath to stop and say thank you to the devs that work hard for free. No one has EVER promised them anything, but they complain like it is the devs duty to please them. Somedays I wish I were back in the Aria forum because the community was very helpful and the devs felt welcomed.
FYI good find OP!

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HaHa Good one!!!!
I think a lot of the trolls here are just ungrateful...they constantly complaining about things not work like they want them to work and they are constantly bugging the devs about when when when! These same trolls do not take a mere breath to stop and say thank you to the devs that work hard for free. No one has EVER promised them anything, but they complain like it is the devs duty to please them. Somedays I wish I were back in the Aria forum because the community was very helpful and the devs felt welcomed.
FYI good find OP!
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"Troll"
I don't think you know what that word actually means yet you use it constantly.

edgeicator said:
"Troll"
I don't think you know what that word actually means yet you use it constantly.
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It's actually kinda explained in my post.

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It's actually kinda explained in my post.
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Since you still don't realise what the word "troll" actually means, let me clarify for you.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ie the very people you are complaining about are not, in fact, trying to provoke people, but rather are just uninformed people asking for help. In fact, you are the one closer to a troll then they are since you keep insulting them instead of directing them to the right answer, potentially provoking them into an outlash of anger.

IUH1991 said:
The webtop might take a while since it seems they have to design their own version of it
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Sadly I don't think they'll be having Webtop on Cyanogenmod. Last I heard it was too much work.

if cm7 allowed me to play my movies from my phone on tv when i am away from home i would be on it like a fat kid on a smartie!

edgeicator said:
Since you still don't realise what the word "troll" actually means, let me clarify for you.
A troll is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ie the very people you are complaining about are not, in fact, trying to provoke people, but rather are just uninformed people asking for help. In fact, you are the one closer to a troll then they are since you keep insulting them instead of directing them to the right answer, potentially provoking them into an outlash of anger.
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Nicely put...

Ratchet556 said:
Now this is purely speculation as the title says so if anyone gets disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Now i could be looking at this completely wrong so feel free to call me a dumb ass if i am wrong.
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dumbass....

sanriver12 said:
dumbass....
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We dont sit here and update or post all day because its un needed, exhausting on its own, and frusterating to the point of cursing. I can once a week come to this thread and after going through 20+ pages find maybe one thing worth replying to, like this time and the gentleman that requested a few pages back that i call this kang and not official ?!? Why because we have waited till we deemed ready to merge ? Everything we released has been stable and useable i have not touched another rom in months, we will merge shortly, it will be up todate 2.3.7 or what ever uptodate is than. We are all running 2.3.7 curently , there has not been another release because IOO there has not been enough added fixes that we felt the need to do so yet. Mostly we have been waiting on FP. I have it working 100% fine actually better than stock, but it haz created a bug with calls when enabled for an unknown reason. I have been working on the same bug for over 2 weeks . Once again iwasted more time i could have spent on the bug to reply to those of you that felt i needed to "give updates" to a 170 page hell hole where no one reads in the first place Anyhow we appreciate your all excited , so are we , mostly so we can stop working keep in mind we want itcompleted and working obiously more than you do so either relax and wait or keep yelling inhere like a jakaninny IDGAF, but i will post updates when i am ready as will the other team members. End of story
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I'm going to ignore that for the soul fact I was right. From the CM7 thread.
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[Q] Integrating Cornerstone in to a custom ROM? (how hard would it be?)

Just read that the CM team is integrating this in to CM9, it looks amazing!!
How hard would it be for someone more knowledgeable than me to integrate it in to a ROM for our Tablets? It's open source so I don't know if it's as simple as just compiling and installing, or if you would have to compile a ROM from the google AOSP after adding it?
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Thoughts?

bumpity bump

I wish I had of thought of that. Why not, Google should think about integrating this as well.

Awesome idea.. would put Ios off the grid of usable tablet
very interesting .
I so would love something like this on our tablet .Thanks for the Link .I am not a developer in any way. But I did send them a email asking for more information.Maybe we can get a Developer to spark some interest when we get ics.. As of for now stuck waiting for a major update.. nothing will be seriously developed for our tablet..
This could put android Way over the top...
Thanks for the link and very Useful thread..

has anyone seen this running on a true device not just emulation?
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It's working on the Samsung 10.1...

While this looks cool as hell, I m wondering if tegra 2 could pull this off
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BrianDigital said:
While this looks cool as hell, I m wondering if tegra 2 could pull this off
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Shouldn't be an issue with Ics which the maker of CS built it around and a galaxy tab i believe which is tegra 2
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On topic or GTFO.....

Aaron Camp said:
In your haste you accidentally removed this valid link to active development on cornerstone.
Hopefully others can avoid name calling etc so that this thread doesn't get moded again.
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And in your haste, you linked to a forum we're not allowed to link to on the XDA forums, due to GPL violations. Well done.

I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..

Can someone give me a brief run down of this situation?
Just for the record, if this site requires registration for downloads then it should not be linked to. If not it's fine as long as no non gpl compliant works are linked to.
Also, roms are not subject to the gpl only kernels are.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.......

erica_renee said:
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
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Get a life! Enough said!
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conantroutman said:
Can someone give me a brief run down of this situation?
Just for the record, if this site requires registration for downloads then it should not be linked to. If not it's fine as long as no non gpl compliant works are linked to.
Also, roms are not subject to the gpl only kernels are.
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I don't know why that was linked?
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what is the issue with the site?
And what is the issue with this thor guys ics build?
I'd research it myself but I'm at work right now and mobile only...
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Are you guys totally blind that you've managed to miss the DOZENS of times this has been explained in these forums!?!?
Basically, Thor refuses to release is kernel source code as required under the GPL license. Because of this, his ROMs, which have his kernel integrated, are not allowed on XDA, nor are links to his site.
He's done this because some people took his code, made cosmetic changes, then released it as their own without giving him credit. Instead of dealing with it maturely and getting those people dealt with by the mods, he decided to throw his toys out of his pram in a toddlers tantrum and withdrew his sources. Legally, he has no right to do this because, no matter what changes he has made, it is NOT his source code and never was.
Note, the above applies to his kernel only, but as he ships his kernel inside his ROMs, his ROM's are included in the ban along with his kernels.
It's a damn shame because he's a pretty good developer, but XDA have to protect themselves from possibly GPL violations, so out goes his code.
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erica_renee said:
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
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*sigh* Erica... Really.. That doesn't help things at all...

FloatingFatMan said:
Are you guys totally blind that you've managed to miss the DOZENS of times this has been explained in these forums!?!?
Basically, Thor refuses to release is kernel source code as required under the GPL license. Because of this, his ROMs, which have his kernel integrated, are not allowed on XDA, nor are links to his site.
He's done this because some people took his code, made cosmetic changes, then released it as their own without giving him credit. Instead of dealing with it maturely and getting those people dealt with by the mods, he decided to throw his toys out of his pram in a toddlers tantrum and withdrew his sources. Legally, he has no right to do this because, no matter what changes he has made, it is NOT his source code and never was.
Note, the above applies to his kernel only, but as he ships his kernel inside his ROMs, his ROM's are included in the ban along with his kernels.
It's a damn shame because he's a pretty good developer, but XDA have to protect themselves from possibly GPL violations, so out goes his code.
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*sigh* Erica... Really.. That doesn't help things at all...
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I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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conantroutman said:
I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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Which they're not, as like most forums, you have to register to see download links.

conantroutman said:
I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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Assuming they linked to the Thor's dev thread there for ICS, it falls under the criteria of registering for downloads.
By the way, can we PLEASE make it clear to other users the importance of GPL compliance on XDA? I'm getting sick of others and myself getting called jealous haters for explaining basic forum rules. I'm just as bothered we're out a good dev as others but it isn't anyone's fault but Thor. And I'm not the only one who sees this. I've talked to other users and they're just as shocked by what goes on in here.
Edit: And Aaron if you have ever been into the development subforum maybe you'd have seen the sticky of the rule I have been citing about GPL compliance. You know, the ONLY rule I ever bring up on this subject. Is this the one I'm "making up"?

FloatingFatMan said:
Which they're not, as like most forums, you have to register to see download links.
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Cheers.
That's that then. No more links to that forum.
And no more childish name calling, no matter how thinly veiled it is....
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.. LOL! I just realised I asked a senior mod if he was blind! Bloody XDA mobile app!
Actually, I'm kinda glad to see you in here... We've been pretty modless for ages and tbh, it's gotten ridiculous. I know we have mods that drop in sometimes, but really, we need someone checking things daily. I'd offer myself but I'm not exactly innocent of losing patience with some people...