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KingXKlick's new kernel. Thanks, but NO THANKS

I cannot believe this dude will publicly bash and feud with members of XDA, then attempt to sell his kernel for $5.50..A MONTH! That's almost as much as I pay for Sirius satellite radio.
The idea is revolting. Absolutely devs should make money off their work, but the fact that people are supporting this guy is extremely disheartening. I implore everyone to not support his nonsense and wait for the public release, or find it another way.
I'm not saying he's not a good dev, his kernel is widely used and stable, but his actions and his juvenile behavior added with his holier-than-thou persona makes him persona-non-grata to me, and hopefully to you too.
I was willing to look past the fact he's been kicked off XDA and even the fact that he fueds with other devs and I was willing to try his kernel, as a persons coding skill should not be affected by his child-like behavior, but the fact that he charges a monthly friggin fee goes against everything this open source movement stands for and his actions actually hinder the further development of our Samsung Galaxies.
Don't. Just don't. He doesn't deserve your support.

agreed! lol
i thought i was the only one that thought this hahaha

WOW! CANT WAIT TO TRY THIS!
...flashing now.
wait you didn't develop anything...learn to post in the correct forum.

geekus33 said:
WOW! CANT WAIT TO TRY THIS!
...flashing now.
wait you didn't develop anything...learn to post in the correct forum.
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i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?

loogielv said:
i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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I believe geekus33 was trying to say this is more of a general forum topic; as it's not a comment/post from either a Dev or a comment on a bug with a ROM/MOD/Kernel.
Besides, this is more of a childish rant than anything else. Not useful in any way shape or form. If you don't like the way someone does business don't support them by voting with your wallet.
~SB
edit: +1 to the ignore list

Not supporting this thread, not denying what it's stating, just wondering how it can even be charged monthly. Is there built in software that makes it stop working if you haven't paid up, or what?
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loogielv said:
i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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Technically, geekus33 is right. Whenever you want to post something like this, just post it under General. Development sections are for Roms, Kernels, and Development projects, and not to talk about them.

sorry if this should be posted elsewhere, although i fail to see why.
in any event, all of you *****ing about me *****ing, are just doing the same thing you said i shouldn't do.
I N C E P T I O N

Moved to general as not development.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8475563&postcount=2 for guidance on when to post in development.

egzthunder1 said:
Technically, geekus33 is right. Whenever you want to post something like this, just post it under General. Development sections are for Roms, Kernels, and Development projects, and not to talk about them.
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ahh, i see. i read the rules, but just misunderstood the different forums. my bad.

loogielv said:
i'm commenting on the development of a known developer, in the development forum. That a problem?
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yeah, it belongs in general, Development section is for developers to share work, and communicate with other developers.
not saying your opinion is any less valid just doesn't belong here...
loogielv said:
ahh, i see. i read the rules, but just misunderstood the different forums. my bad.
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Its cool...I tend to be overly sarcastic.

geekus33 said:
yeah, it belongs in general, Development section is for developers to share work, and communicate with other developers.
not saying your opinion is any less valid just doesn't belong here...
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yah i re-read the rules. my bad. now my rant seems less meaningful

geekus33 said:
Its cool...I tend to be overly sarcastic.
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me too! we should hand out. go bowling or something.

Its a paypal monthly recurring charge, you can unsubscribe anytime, it won't affect your hardware, just you may not get the new password when its updated to get into the donation section.

wait, are you serious?
Where is this thread that talks about a monthly fee? I've always heard nothing but BAD things, but this is absolutely laughable.

If you go to his site you will see over on the right a place to subscribe for either Platinum or Gold level membership. The membership entitles you for exclusive access to the kernels and also he says you will make you a custom ROM or something. $5.50/month

kangxi said:
If you go to his site you will see over on the right a place to subscribe for either Platinum or Gold level membership. The membership entitles you for exclusive access to the kernels and also he says you will make you a custom ROM or something. $5.50/month
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yup. and the $5.50 a month entitles you to the updates of your kernel. otherwise, you're out of luck.
what a douche.

If he's distributing a modified linux kernel, he has to provide the source to go with it under the terms of the GPL. So, anybody who "subscribes" will have the rights to the source code and can republish that. If he's *not* distributing his source code along with the binaries, that's a GPL violation, and I bet the FSF would be interested.
I'm all for people asking for donations and all, but unless he's providing the code to subscribers this is a problem. If he *is* providing the code to subscribers, they can turn around and repost it for everybody else to use.

mind = blown
Thank God we have people like Team Whiskey, Eugene and JAC (not a complete list, just examples).

he's not.
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GPL

Just to their this out here... Anyone who publishes ROMs and other mods here... How's the compliance going? Seems that it's strictly enforced on the other forums, but not here. Did I miss anything?
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You did miss something: a ROM called Baked Snack and a dev named Herver.

I think you are referring to the DK28 Froyo ROMs, they have not been published under the GPL yet by Samsung and therefore there is no source available to publish. Once Samsung releases their source and ROMs are based on that I will assume they will comply...
Geoff

gzub said:
I think you are referring to the DK28 Froyo ROMs, they have not been published under the GPL yet by Samsung and therefore there is no source available to publish. Once Samsung releases their source and ROMs are based on that I will assume they will comply...
Geoff
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That is what I was thinking.

Nah, actually I wasn't thinking about dk28. I completely forgot about hero_over

herzzreh said:
Nah, actually I wasn't thinking about dk28. I completely forgot about hero_over
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Can we file this thread under who cares? Seriously, is this thread even necessary?

ScientificOne said:
Can we file this thread under who cares? Seriously, is this thread even necessary?
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Actually it is. Pretty important. To steal from 12aon's post:
Recently in several Android fora on XDA-Developers, it has come to the attention of the moderator team that there have been issues regarding developers’ compliance with the GPL. This post aims to clarify the position of XDA on the use of GPL sources, particularly in the development of Android kernels.
Without the GPL, the Android operating system would likely never have come about. Through the work of Linus Torvalds, the Linux kernel was made open source for all to use, share and modify. As Android runs on the Linux kernel, and features numerous modifications to these sources, it would not exist in its present state without the Open Source community.
As a result, it is in the interests of everyone who owns an Android phone, who wishes to see further development on the platform, to ensure that they play their part in upholding both the letter and spirit of the GPL.
The GNU General Public Licence (also known as the GPL) is available to read in full at www.gnu.org
To make it easy for everyone to spot a release that complies with the GPL mark the title of your release thread with [GPL]. If you find a ROM which does not comply with the GPL, or the developer does not issue sources, you can report the post as usual, using the report post button next to the post number. Alternatively you may PM your forum specific moderator.
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herzzreh said:
Actually it is. Pretty important. To steal from 12aon's post:
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Then how about instead of throwing out a vague (possibly rhetorical) question you cite some actual problem/violation witht he GPL and work to fix it? Unless of course there weren't really any problems that you saw and you just wanted to start a thread to be an antagonistic jacka**.

richse said:
Then how about instead of throwing out a vague (possibly rhetorical) question you cite some actual problem/violation witht he GPL and work to fix it? Unless of course there weren't really any problems that you saw and you just wanted to start a thread to be an antagonistic jacka**.
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+1. OP, you are the second person to post about this. Of course you don't point out how we are in violation, but here is your answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867318
You're welcome.

richse said:
Then how about instead of throwing out a vague (possibly rhetorical) question you cite some actual problem/violation witht he GPL and work to fix it? Unless of course there weren't really any problems that you saw and you just wanted to start a thread to be an antagonistic jacka**.
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Couldn't agree more. To the OP, if you think someone is in non-compliance, how about using a PM to a mod and have them follow up? This thread is retarded and should be closed.

They trollin...they hatinn...lookin tryin to catch the devs ridinn dirty...lol
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I was under the impression that Android was NOT GPL. So of course they do NOT have to follow it. Android is under ASL, but the kernel is GPL. Different licenses different rules.

pretty sure the deal is that when someone asks for the GPL then they must release their source, but if no one asks than everythings good baby babbbbby! from what i remember herver saying on his personal forum.

herzzreh said:
Just to their this out here... Anyone who publishes ROMs and other mods here... How's the compliance going? Seems that it's strictly enforced on the other forums, but not here. Did I miss anything?
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did you ever stop to think... maybe this is why you don't have any friends??
we all know how jealous you are of all the awesomeness going on here and how our phones would run laps around yours if phones had legs . you must be really bored , im sure you can find something better to do under that bridge of yours, troll.

please do not feed the trolls. OP since you are strict and follow everything to the letter...why is this even in Development when it has nothing to do with actually developing anything....just more of a General Question....which infact should be posted in the...ionno...General section?

Please post questions in General section.

[Q] where the **** is the best kernel dev thor?

Why kick a linuxnerd with this knowledge!!?

PsYCoR said:
Why kick a linuxnerd with this knowledge!!?
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Where do we sign to get him back?

wait what happend?

nycbjr said:
wait what happend?
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Did he quit because of the HTCClay ordeal? If so All those folks went to rootzwiki.com

His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law. Some jerk took that to mean he was banned or punished or in some way unwelcome at XDA, which is false. The OP deserves a nice temp ban for having such a glaring attitude towards the administrators here at XDA who are doing their best to keep this site running. But, for someone with one post, I can't see that doing any good. Best to just ignore the troll till the admins remove this thread.

Out of all the worthless crappy 100+ threads you chose one that is actually useful WOW.

daveid said:
His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law.
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i can't belive it.

Johnny0906 said:
Out of all the worthless crappy 100+ threads you chose one that is actually useful WOW.
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Sorry, but I LOL´ed imagining you saying that. Anyway, that sucks =(

daveid said:
His kernel thread was closed due to a lack of source being provided, in order to keep the site compliant with the law.
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That actually seems reasonably fair... Everyone is angry at Acer for doing that, I don't see why Thor should be held to a different standard. Having said that, his kernel was great... I hope he comes back and plays according to the rules.
With any luck this was all a big misunderstanding, and he just hadn't started a GIT yet but was about to, or something like that.

I mean his kernel was up a few days only, you couldnt have given him some more time to explain or something?
This is the guy that got Clockwork for EVERYBODY for ****s sake...
And its impossible to put a price tag on how important it is.

Johnny0906 said:
I mean his kernel was up a few days only, you couldnt have given him some more time to explain or something?
This is the guy that got Clockwork for EVERYBODY for ****s sake...
And its impossible to put a price tag on how important it is.
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We can only guess that PM's were being exchanged over the issue before any action was taken. At least, I HOPE they were. They wouldn't just boot him without talking first, would they?

FloatingFatMan said:
We can only guess that PM's were being exchanged over the issue before any action was taken. At least, I HOPE they were. They wouldn't just boot him without talking first, would they?
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As I say, let's just hope this was all a big misunderstanding. Thor was asked for his source a few times in that thread, and he never responded to those requests publicly. I don't know what happened behind the scenes though, as you say. Perhaps a mod can clarify?

Of course they would... They ban all the best devs over stupid $h*t. Android is "open source" but now we say he was banned for not including source? Thanks conan keep up the great work...
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Please let's get Thor and his work back !

Wtf is this s%%%???
First there's not even ONE mod to sticky the important threads and now some N00B comes to play sheriff in town and kick the DEV who brought CLOCKWORKMOD to ICONIA out?
Who the F%%% is this brilliant MOD???
WHY the F%%% don't you CLOSE ALL 3.1 topics and ask acer for a 3.1 source?
EVER HEARD OF ASKING? NICELY?
Thor was rebuilding his kernel from ground up anyway.
WTF? is this XDA OR CCCP?

Mod who bans = CONANTROUTMAN... Send all requests to him ;-)
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Please post the C&D if it REALLY was a legal thing
Seriously? Because he hasn't had time to post the source up? Really?
This isn't anything new even here on XDA, and as far as being legally compliant, show us the cease and desist order, please. In any event that's no cause to get a poster banned and XDA had plenty of occurrences on significantly less open platforms where they didn't ban the poster, but locked the content due to C&Ds.
Thor did significant amounts of work here to get us what we want. Acer and pretty much 100% of corporate industries are limited to what they can do or say because of much greater liability of what they produce. One user/fan/coder posting here not so much liability as none of it is anywhere near official.
So, again please post the C&D
Even if he was being a total jackass and blurted out obscenities AT mods, a temp ban would all that it would warrant.

CONANTROUTMAN banned him or CONANTROUTMAN is in charge of mods overdoing their job?

Who banned him?

This is crazy about one month ago we didn't have recovery, Then Thor arrived and fixed that he is very important to the development of the a 500, Lets hope this is temporary, Without devs like Thor we get nowhere on our devices, I have seen in the past when devs have fights with mods the devs leave for good. Its almost like they get jealous of the work they do.
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And thus it begins again.

Now we're getting to the point where nothing belongs anywhere. Seriously, stop ****ting on us productive and helpful members. And now apparently voicing your opinion doesn't belong anywhere either. This place used to be a fun and open community, now it seems like a place for these "moderators" to openly abuse their power.

Couldn't agree more. COMMUNICATION moderators!

this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..

chris41g said:
this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"

thomasskull666 said:
Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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sadly +1 thomasskull666, qbking77, and Chris41g you are all right. this ubermod heavy handedness is ridiculous.

you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...

chris41g said:
you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)

machx0r said:
You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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troll 10char

thomasskull666 said:
Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.

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troll 10char
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jarcher1971 said:
so Machx0r, or should i call you Cory Charlton, famous cut and paste dev of the smoking log. what did you find in Chris41g's post that was copywritten material. i don't see any at all. who appointed you forum sherrif anyway. if you don't like what you see, just go away. you are not contributing to EPIC development one bit with all this.
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(Wish I had the option to save sent replies prior to sending this):
<Summary>The McGraw hill book with a clear copyright of 2008 on page 3 or whaterver</Summary>
Call me a troll all you want but I believe that stealing is wrong. Sue me...

the_scotsman said:
As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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If you are too blind to see the issue then leave. YOU aren't helping, you're making this harder on yourself.

Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.

the issue is that any thread regarding "epic general chat" in the "epic general chat" section is closed, yet numerous unrelated flaming, trolling threads remain open.. how is a thread asking where to begin learning to develop for the epic off topic in the "epic" general chat?

Ok, so which threads were closed that you feel shouldn't have been? Apart from the two that were closed by Mr. Clown?

the_scotsman said:
As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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Here is the problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
chris41g posted a link to a copyrighted McGraw hill PDF. The thread was closed and the link was removed (partially, still available in a quote). and now the whining begins about how it's unfair that you prohibit them from stealing the hard work of others...
Seriously? Unfortunately...
PS: There is also the starter thread that was perhaps closed out of line but really whine about it like this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176684

and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?

the_scotsman said:
Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
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What planet are you from? The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour. Obviously there is some sort of disconnect, so please sort out your internal troubles before coming in here flaunting your moderator status. Chris41g and I have been here for quite some time so we're no stranger to the overpowering by mods, but at some point it has to stop and I think now is a great time. We go months and months without seeing a single moderator and now all of a sudden you guys come in and starting closing/deleting threads left and right with no explanation. Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.

chris41g said:
and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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False:
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Thank you for your good intentions, there is a great forum in this site (Chef central) where everybody has access and learn all about this.
Also, you are breaching rule number 9, posting copyright material.
Thread closed and links removed,
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He even thanked you for your intentions...

thomasskull666 said:
The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour.
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Can you please point me to these "helpful and meaningful threads" that have been closed? (aside from the two recent ones closed by Mr. Clown)? Then we can establish the problems.
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Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
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Feel free to PM MikeChannon, the forum admin.

if you cant read....
he closed it because he said it belonged elsewhere..
then went on to say, ALSO it contained copywrighted material. now, since that issue is cleared up. can you get off my nuts about the book?

[Q] Integrating Cornerstone in to a custom ROM? (how hard would it be?)

Just read that the CM team is integrating this in to CM9, it looks amazing!!
How hard would it be for someone more knowledgeable than me to integrate it in to a ROM for our Tablets? It's open source so I don't know if it's as simple as just compiling and installing, or if you would have to compile a ROM from the google AOSP after adding it?
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/
Thoughts?

bumpity bump

I wish I had of thought of that. Why not, Google should think about integrating this as well.

Awesome idea.. would put Ios off the grid of usable tablet
very interesting .
I so would love something like this on our tablet .Thanks for the Link .I am not a developer in any way. But I did send them a email asking for more information.Maybe we can get a Developer to spark some interest when we get ics.. As of for now stuck waiting for a major update.. nothing will be seriously developed for our tablet..
This could put android Way over the top...
Thanks for the link and very Useful thread..

has anyone seen this running on a true device not just emulation?
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It's working on the Samsung 10.1...

While this looks cool as hell, I m wondering if tegra 2 could pull this off
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BrianDigital said:
While this looks cool as hell, I m wondering if tegra 2 could pull this off
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Shouldn't be an issue with Ics which the maker of CS built it around and a galaxy tab i believe which is tegra 2
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On topic or GTFO.....

Aaron Camp said:
In your haste you accidentally removed this valid link to active development on cornerstone.
Hopefully others can avoid name calling etc so that this thread doesn't get moded again.
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And in your haste, you linked to a forum we're not allowed to link to on the XDA forums, due to GPL violations. Well done.

I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..

Can someone give me a brief run down of this situation?
Just for the record, if this site requires registration for downloads then it should not be linked to. If not it's fine as long as no non gpl compliant works are linked to.
Also, roms are not subject to the gpl only kernels are.
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erica_renee said:
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
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Get a life! Enough said!
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conantroutman said:
Can someone give me a brief run down of this situation?
Just for the record, if this site requires registration for downloads then it should not be linked to. If not it's fine as long as no non gpl compliant works are linked to.
Also, roms are not subject to the gpl only kernels are.
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I don't know why that was linked?
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what is the issue with the site?
And what is the issue with this thor guys ics build?
I'd research it myself but I'm at work right now and mobile only...
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Are you guys totally blind that you've managed to miss the DOZENS of times this has been explained in these forums!?!?
Basically, Thor refuses to release is kernel source code as required under the GPL license. Because of this, his ROMs, which have his kernel integrated, are not allowed on XDA, nor are links to his site.
He's done this because some people took his code, made cosmetic changes, then released it as their own without giving him credit. Instead of dealing with it maturely and getting those people dealt with by the mods, he decided to throw his toys out of his pram in a toddlers tantrum and withdrew his sources. Legally, he has no right to do this because, no matter what changes he has made, it is NOT his source code and never was.
Note, the above applies to his kernel only, but as he ships his kernel inside his ROMs, his ROM's are included in the ban along with his kernels.
It's a damn shame because he's a pretty good developer, but XDA have to protect themselves from possibly GPL violations, so out goes his code.
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erica_renee said:
I should not post this here..
But i had to. i went to cornerstone website and read there requirements to use there software.. THEY STRICTLY SAY ANYONE WHO IS GPL CAN USE IT.
I asked them to visit this xda banned site.
enough said..
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*sigh* Erica... Really.. That doesn't help things at all...

FloatingFatMan said:
Are you guys totally blind that you've managed to miss the DOZENS of times this has been explained in these forums!?!?
Basically, Thor refuses to release is kernel source code as required under the GPL license. Because of this, his ROMs, which have his kernel integrated, are not allowed on XDA, nor are links to his site.
He's done this because some people took his code, made cosmetic changes, then released it as their own without giving him credit. Instead of dealing with it maturely and getting those people dealt with by the mods, he decided to throw his toys out of his pram in a toddlers tantrum and withdrew his sources. Legally, he has no right to do this because, no matter what changes he has made, it is NOT his source code and never was.
Note, the above applies to his kernel only, but as he ships his kernel inside his ROMs, his ROM's are included in the ban along with his kernels.
It's a damn shame because he's a pretty good developer, but XDA have to protect themselves from possibly GPL violations, so out goes his code.
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*sigh* Erica... Really.. That doesn't help things at all...
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I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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conantroutman said:
I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.......
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Which they're not, as like most forums, you have to register to see download links.

conantroutman said:
I'm assuming this is directed at me.....
Blind? No.....
I, just don't monitor every forum every waking hour of the day. For that I can only apologise.
As for the kernel, yeah your right, it has no place here under those circumstances.
It does not stop anyone linking to that site though, providing the other criteria are met.
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Assuming they linked to the Thor's dev thread there for ICS, it falls under the criteria of registering for downloads.
By the way, can we PLEASE make it clear to other users the importance of GPL compliance on XDA? I'm getting sick of others and myself getting called jealous haters for explaining basic forum rules. I'm just as bothered we're out a good dev as others but it isn't anyone's fault but Thor. And I'm not the only one who sees this. I've talked to other users and they're just as shocked by what goes on in here.
Edit: And Aaron if you have ever been into the development subforum maybe you'd have seen the sticky of the rule I have been citing about GPL compliance. You know, the ONLY rule I ever bring up on this subject. Is this the one I'm "making up"?

FloatingFatMan said:
Which they're not, as like most forums, you have to register to see download links.
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Cheers.
That's that then. No more links to that forum.
And no more childish name calling, no matter how thinly veiled it is....
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.. LOL! I just realised I asked a senior mod if he was blind! Bloody XDA mobile app!
Actually, I'm kinda glad to see you in here... We've been pretty modless for ages and tbh, it's gotten ridiculous. I know we have mods that drop in sometimes, but really, we need someone checking things daily. I'd offer myself but I'm not exactly innocent of losing patience with some people...