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Samsung intros Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus 7-inch tablet http://t.co/V02y0x2r
With honeycomb. And same resolution. As ours. Which may help in honeycomb. Port
Wonder what processor/gfx it uses.
I love my existing tab, but that does look impressive. Very svelt. Battery life should be interesting to note too, and 3g?
Now, get it out to channels quickly Samsung!
(though... hmm... I /might/ have issues convincing the wife I need the Galaxy Note coming up AND this 7+ as well.)
Smart of Samsung to keep at it, keep pushing this along as a logical upgrade to the existing one. A tablet in every possible configuration.
interesting news indeed. Would be great if Honeycomb can be ported (easily) to the original 7.0, with most of the hardware the same (in particular screen resolution).
Not sure, apart from the screen, it's surely going to be pretty different under the hood if it's using a different processor?
Don't know.
It's a duel core 1.2 with a gig of ram
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which one do you prefer this or 7.7?
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So THAT'S why we probably never got HC on our current versions of the Galaxy Tab 7.....they don't want to devalue their "latest and greatest" 7" tab that they are releasing. After all, people would probably be content with HC on their current 7" instead of spending XYZ for a new one, even though the hardware specifications are much better.
As a previous poster already said it, hopefully it would make it easier for someone to port HC over to our current tabs, although I would imagine that since it is already difficult to port over due to the hardware differences (i.e. Xoom HW different vs Samsung HW), it would be just as difficult. One can only hope....
fenguinpower said:
which one do you prefer this or 7.7?
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Thea 7.7 has a 1280*800 SAMOLED+ screen and a faster CPU. The price will be much higher though.
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Nice, shame honeycombe is not stable for current SG 7"
So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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The Tegra 3 is a faster chip.
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So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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Cause iPad mini is not even out in stores yet? A good comparison woul just refer to iPad 2 since it uses the exact same specs
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I read somewhere that the Tegra 3 has a faster CPU, while the A5 is better for graphics processing. Don't know how true that is.
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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i also looked forward for the apple announcement, even though i wouldn't buy anyways. but the announcement was really disappointing.
but obviously they don't want to cannibalize their own other products, so this product had to be bad and cheap.
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So I've done some research around the internet, and couldn't really find any decisive information that made it clear. Which chip is better in terms of graphics, processing, smoothness, etc between the Nexus 7 Quad-Core Tegra 3 or the iPad Mini A5 chip? What are your thoughts folks?.
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
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You make a good point. I own a Nexus 7, and most of Gameloft's games such as Asphalt 7 and Nova 3 aren't as fluid as I'd hoped, especially Nova 3. I had expected the quad core Tegra 3 to run them smoothly, but I guess due to a higher pixel per inch (ppi) rate, it lags. Even with the smoothest custom ROMs. But considering everything else, I love my Nexus 7 in terms of media consumption from browsing the internet, to watching Netflix. And you obviously can't go wrong for the price. It's a great device.
Are there any hopes that the upcoming 32gb Nexus 7 might have some upgraded hardware?
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly. I'm going to check out the iPad Mini when it comes out. The thing stopping me is the price, since I absolutely have to have 32gb on a closed down Apple product.
http://www.redmondpie.com/a5-vs.-a5...-benchmarked-the-winner-is-rather-surprising/
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Completely unfair comparison. The 1024x768 is a joke... are you kidding me it doesnt even equal the ppi of the ORIGINAL iPhone. Not to mention its an old dual-core. Good job apple taking a step back to move forward :silly:. Those games are not optimized correctly for the N7 but if you compare any Tegra 3 games to the same iOS variant.. the Tegra is going to blow those games away. Shadowgun THD for instance is way better than the iOS variant. And to sit here and say the iPad will be better at gaming. Well of course its not even pushing HD. And to also say you rather have a non HD display to play games is ridiculous. You should rather be saying i wish developers would put more support towards HD displays.
All in all the N7 is still going to win in pricing alone. The 16GB is 130$ cheaper than the 16GB iPad mini. That tablet is a joke and hope it dies off like every other apple flop.
N7 all the way, iPad can keep it's two steps backwards mentality.
Are there any upcoming hardware updates with the 32gb Nexus 7?
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Are there any upcoming hardware updates with the 32gb Nexus 7?
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No, why would there be?
Just curious.
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When it comes to apple they are way overpriced. Cause they think they are the "right" brand and everything else is "off brand" so they put it higher cause people will buy them. And they will
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Wow... did nvidia brainwash the posters here with the "4plus1 COARS + 12 GPU COAR" marketing campaign?
SGX543 in A5 is way faster than tegra's crappy Geforce ULP any time of the day. and at any resolution...
nVidia's biggest fault with T3 is the crappy single-channel memory controller. Notice how a lot of games default to a low resolution on N7 (GTA3, riptide, beach buggy blitz, Horn) because the memory bandwidth can't keep up.
This is also one of the main reasons gameloft games lag. optimization here would mean lowering the resolution and lowering texture quality.
The four A9 cores are good marketing material, but useless for the users because none will notice the difference in speed. It's only good for benchmark whores.
Also, just because you get some special graphics effects on T3 does not make it a faster chip. The game developers were paid by nvidia to do it.
Any other chip can run these effects just fine.
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Hello you ask a very good question. I'm going to be brutally honest. The iPad mini is almost certainly going to run all the games more smoothly and it has a lot more games and apps to choose from. I'm not bashing Android, but it really lags behind in tablet specific apps.
The A5 is a good chip, in fact it has superior gpu performance to the Tegra 3. Several factors go into this. The A5 also can maintain better frames per second in games also due to the lower resolution. Try out an iPad 2 and see how fluid it is, sorry but it's still more fluid than the Nexus. This is mainly software here. I honestly wish the Nexus 7 had a lower resolution to get better gaming performance. Gameloft games are the best out there and they are developed specifically for Apple's iOS and go watch a couple videos of the iPad 2 running Asphalt 7, Nova 3, and Modern Combat 3, and then watch it running on Nexus 7. They run really laggy on Nexus 7. Even overclocked the Nexus 7's GPU is not that great and can't run a lot of games fluidly.
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darkchazz said:
Wow... did nvidia brainwash the posters here with the "4plus1 COARS + 12 GPU COAR" marketing campaign?
SGX543 in A5 is way faster than tegra's crappy Geforce ULP any time of the day. and at any resolution...
nVidia's biggest fault with T3 is the crappy single-channel memory controller. Notice how a lot of games default to a low resolution on N7 (GTA3, riptide, beach buggy blitz, Horn) because the memory bandwidth can't keep up.
This is also one of the main reasons gameloft games lag. optimization here would mean lowering the resolution and lowering texture quality.
The four A9 cores are good marketing material, but useless for the users because none will notice the difference in speed. It's only good for benchmark whores.
Also, just because you get some special graphics effects on T3 does not make it a faster chip. The game developers were paid by nvidia to do it.
Any other chip can run these effects just fine.
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You guys are so picky....
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robertc88 said:
This Mini is already outdated. Look for a new one with Retina in 6 months.
Look at the chip, screen, ram, etc. A mini phoney, lol! Glad I have the N7.
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If they release a crappy version first then they can release an "updated" version sometime next year with slightly better everything and the sheep will buy both and double the profits for Apple. Same with the iPad 3/4.
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i also looked forward for the apple announcement, even though i wouldn't buy anyways. but the announcement was really disappointing.
but obviously they don't want to cannibalize their own other products, so this product had to be bad and cheap.
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Actually Apple doesn't mind cannibalizing it's own products. See iPod/iPhone as an example, there is no point in owning both really so people choose one or the other, unless they are part of the Apple cult and buy both just cuz.
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I'm looking forward to a side by side comparison of both running graphic intensive apps and games. But regardless, the nexus 7 wins on the basis of price and customization ability.
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When it comes to apple they are way overpriced. Cause they think they are the "right" brand and everything else is "off brand" so they put it higher cause people will buy them. And they will
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If people are buying ipads in droves (which they have and continue to do), then they are clearly not "way overpriced" - they are perfectly priced (notwithstanding any technical comparisons).
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My N7 is as fluid as I would want it, I like the different ROMs and the freedom. And for the price, in my opinion is an absolute steal. In terms of comparing CPUs and GPUs, I haven't looked much into the A5, but I have no complaints with games, especially the tegra optimised games. Stunning quality on a nice detailed screen. I wouldn't touch a 1024x768 screen, nor an overpriced piece of hardware. I look forward to when google release a well priced nexus tablet with 300dpi screen and great hardware support.
Until then, the N7 does it for me.
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Hey guys I am a big fan of Android and am currently looking into getting a 7" tablet.
The only thing that is putting me off the Nexus 7 is the fact that the apps look like a enlarged version of the phone apps. I currently own a HTC One X and love it but was looking forward to a more native experience on the tablet. I am really keen on the Nexus 7 because of it's price but am also a little tempted by the iPad Mini's design and apps specifically made for tablets.
I just wanted your opinions on whether the larger tablet app selection on the iPad Mini is worth the $100 price difference between the two products? Are the enlarged phone apps on the Nexus 7 really that much of a deterrent? I am really confused at the moment and am hoping that your opinions on this issue combined with other arguments for the Nexus 7 or iPad Mini will help me in making a decision.
Thanks for your time and look forward to the replies.
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Something tells me you're not going to find many people in this thread who will say the iPad Mini is worth the $100 premium over the Nexus 7. The Nexus has better specs overall. Unless you have other reasons to consider the iPad (i.e. you have other iOS devices that could take advantage of iCloud), I can't see any reason to consider the iPad Mini
We have the N7(me) and the Ipad2(wife) in the home. Both are great gadgets but N7 is faster, smoother and has the superior os.
As for blown up phone apps its mostly a problem on the Ipad2 where the tiny 3.5 apps really look dreadful on the 10 screen. Most android apps are made for 4.3 screens and still look great on a 7.
Only arguments I can see for the Ipad mini is if you want an optical port out or the possibility of a sim card (I am not even certain that then mini will be getting those?).
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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The iPad Mini isn't a 7" tablet, it's 7.9", you should take into consideration that its considerably wider.
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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That's the reason I love Android. With iOS you need to buy a separate app for your iPhone and your iPad, prime example Borderlands for iOS, and many other "HD" games. With Android, you buy a game and it should work with all of your Android devices be it Tablets or phones.
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Nexus 7, you won't regret it
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I would wait and do a hands on side by side in a store and see which will do what YOU want best.I love my N7 but there are many things I can't do because of lack of apps that might work on the mini. jmho
Just went and got me a Nexus 7 and the girlfriend and iPad mini Friday. The only thing I think the iPad has one up on the n7 is the washed out colors. Other than that. IPad what?????
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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hmmmmmm look here http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-ipad-mini-races-the-nexus-7-towards-a-cold-hard-surface-in-a-drop-test/
Had a good look at the mini against the N7 myself.
The N7 is not built as well (though it appears to be getting better) and its screen is more washed out and smaller. Its also slightly heaver and slightly thicker and does not have a rear facing camera. It is also single band wi-fi, unlike the mini's dual band. However, its dpi is greater and its smaller and therefore easier to hold one handed or put in your pocket (not sure a bigger device would as the N7 is snug). The N7 has the more powerful innards and it uses a micro USB connector rather than a proprietary one, which means that you can get hard drives etc to connect more easily. The Nexus 7 has less apps, but it still has tens of thousands of them. The N7 is customisable, where as the Mini is not. Battery life for each is about the same.
One thing that is NOT the same is the price. A 32gb N7 with 3g is £239. An ipad mini of the same spec is £449. So, does £210 extra seem worth it for the ipad? For me it doesn't. But even if it did, I'd not get it as Apple have sucked of late in the way they have spent longer in a court room than in an R&D lab.
Even if you take out the price I would still buy the 7 over the mini. It has better specs and I couldn't ask for anything else for a tablet. Granted, it is a great looking tablet and build materials are top notch but it is not worth 100 dollars more than the 7.
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From wht i have heard, the ipad mini has better build quality than the 7. But dnt care. My nexus is a beast man!!!!!!
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Go for the N7, unless you want people call you "sheeps"
I own a Nexus 7 and an iPad 2. Personally I think the form factor as well as the materials the NExus 7 is constructed from especially when you include the Specs and pricing make it far superior to the iPad Mini. The Mini seems a bit wide for the average person to put in their pocket, the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. When looking at a 7" screen this really matter as this will be your primary web consumption device. I love the plastic back of the NExus 7 because I can put it down anywhere without worrying about scratching. So far as native tablet apps, I used to think the same thing and after reading this post I put my Nexus 7 down next to my iPad 2 and what I realized was that of course Apple makes some apps that are beautiful to look at (SOME) but the Android apps FUNCTION much more efficiently. Look at apps like Pintrest, Funimation, Plex and others. They are just more functional on the Nexus 7 and android devices.
All that said, if you are very vested into the Apple ecosystem and don't have an iPAD then the mini may b what you need. If you already have an iPad don't be redundant with an inferior device, the iPOD is better than the iPAD mini. Grab the Nexus 7 and begin your consumption.
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.. the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. /QUOTE]
At great risk of exposing my ignorance of the Apple ecosystem, I think Apple had a very good reason to keep resolution at 1024x768, matching the IPad 2 4:3 format. This is not as good for movies, but it maintains compatibility with existing Apps. Apple Apps don't scale, so they would have to be re-coded if the resolution changed. Retina display icons would just be too small in this format.
I am sure we have enough Apple agents here to correct me if I am wrong.
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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What bugs? About to pick up a nexus an like to stick to just rooting my phone.
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I own an iPad 2 and a N7. I absolutely love the N7 due to its portability, it easily fits in my pocket and I can carry it everywhere. I know the iPad mini is smaller than its larger counterpart but it is still not pocketable. The N7 does have great specs but the major disappointment for me was the lack of quality tablet apps. I don't see the point of having a quad core processor if apps don't take advantage of it. Sure its great and everything but I would choose better apps over better specs. App Store > Google Play store.
Do you think this feature may come to nexus 10 in the future? I think it's truly helpful, and I'm really tempted to go for the Samsung Note 10.1 instead of waiting for the Nexus 10 because of all it's features like Multi windows (multitasking on the screen), Air view (quick previews) & of course the wonder that seems to be the S Pen, SD card storage, Mini-SIM support (can be a phone/tablet basically), are those amazing features worth trading for 1.7 a-15 processor and the display? cause those 2 things are the only that I can think of that would really beat the SGN 10.1 at.
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Do you think this feature may come to nexus 10 in the future? I think it's truly helpful, and I'm really tempted to go for the Samsung Note 10.1 instead of waiting for the Nexus 10 because of all it's features like Multi windows (multitasking on the screen), Air view (quick previews) & of course the wonder that seems to be the S Pen, SD card storage, Mini-SIM support (can be a phone/tablet basically), are those amazing features worth trading for 1.7 a-15 processor and the display? cause those 2 things are the only that I can think of that would really beat the SGN 10.1 at.
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I've used both devices, and would say they both have there pros and cons. If you plan on using your tablet for work I would definetly go for the SGN 10.1. Samsungs UI adds a lot of useful features, most of which probably will not be implemented on the Nexus 10 including multi-window support. The Nexus 10 has a better display, faster cpu, and will receive andriod updates before other non-google branded devices. Choosing between the two depends on what you plan on doing with your device.
If the SGN 10.1 had the same screen resolution as the N10 then I would have bought it instead of the N10 even if it meant waiting longer for Android updates.
As the Android plateform matures then the updates become less significant and as the SGN 10.1 will receive JB then that version of Android is good enough.
However, Apple got it right when it introduced the Retina display for the screen is what you use the most and the resolution needs to be good. That is why I have waited till now to buy an Android tablet that had a display with a resolution as good as the iPad.
If Samsung improves the resolution of the SGN 2, SGN 10.1 and produces a SGN 7.7 to match the iPad then I would switch back to Samsung because I like the S-Pen which can provide mouse pointing accuracy for selecting screen items.
Thanks for the suggestions, and although I'm probably not gonna use the productivity features that are in the Note 10.1 I guess I should go for the Nexus 10.
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If the SGN 10.1 had the same screen resolution as the N10 then I would have bought it instead of the N10 even if it meant waiting longer for Android updates.
As the Android plateform matures then the updates become less significant and as the SGN 10.1 will receive JB then that version of Android is good enough.
However, Apple got it right when it introduced the Retina display for the screen is what you use the most and the resolution needs to be good. That is why I have waited till now to buy an Android tablet that had a display with a resolution as good as the iPad.
If Samsung improves the resolution of the SGN 2, SGN 10.1 and produces a SGN 7.7 to match the iPad then I would switch back to Samsung because I like the S-Pen which can provide mouse pointing accuracy for selecting screen items.
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Why don't we take Samsung galaxy note 10.1 software once it hits 4.2 and port it to nexus 10 only we dont have that cool s-pen ..........
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Why don't we take Samsung galaxy note 10.1 software once it hits 4.2 and port it to nexus 10 only we dont have that cool s-pen ..........
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Because Note 10's screen is made to work with S Pen the way it does, I read something about it on some other post, about there's a layer in the screen that allows this functionality.
The Note 10.1 uses an inductive pen, which requires a unique panel. There are capacitive stylus's that can be used on the Nexus 10, but they will not have the precision of the Note 10.1's inductive stylus.
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Because Note 10's screen is made to work with S Pen the way it does, I read something about it on some other post, about there's a layer in the screen that allows this functionality.
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I know we cant use the s-pen but you can use a capacitive stylus or bamboo pen via otg ..........and if we want multiwindow we can use their rom ported over to nex10 i will do it once samsung releases 4.2 or 4.2.1 for note 10
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I know we cant use the s-pen but you can use a capacitive stylus or bamboo pen via otg ..........and if we want multiwindow we can use their rom ported over to nex10 i will do it once samsung releases 4.2 or 4.2.1 for note 10
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Well if you do manage to port it to N10 fully functioning, that would be great.
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I've used both devices, and would say they both have there pros and cons. If you plan on using your tablet for work I would definetly go for the SGN 10.1. Samsungs UI adds a lot of useful features, most of which probably will not be implemented on the Nexus 10 including multi-window support. The Nexus 10 has a better display, faster cpu, and will receive andriod updates before other non-google branded devices. Choosing between the two depends on what you plan on doing with your device.
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Actually note 10.1 performs faster than the nexus 10 in every aspect, nexus 10 has faster gpu which performs as middle range gpu with this enormous resolution , and in terms of cpu note 10.1 performs faster and is actually more fluid than nexus 10 when multitasking, 2 cortex a15 cores are nearly equal if not less in power than the quad core a9 at same clock speed and with this screen resolution the net performance will be worse than note 10.1 ,
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Actually note 10.1 performs faster than the nexus 10 in every aspect, nexus 10 has faster gpu which performs as middle range gpu with this enormous resolution , and in terms of cpu note 10.1 performs faster and is actually more fluid than nexus 10 when multitasking, 2 cortex a15 cores are nearly equal if not less in power than the quad core a9 at same clock speed and with this screen resolution the net performance will be worse than note 10.1 ,
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Well I've seen a few VS review videos, that do show a slightly advantage on some features for the N 10.1 over the N10 but overall, N10 always wins it.
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Well I've seen a few VS review videos, that do show a slightly advantage on some features for the N 10.1 over the N10 but overall, N10 always wins it.
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Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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A completely new level that's under some of the ****ty Asus tablets?
hoss_n2 said:
Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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I don't know man, I've played with a note10, and it definitely had some performance issues compared to this tablet. A lot of it I'm sure is due to their tablet form of touch wiz, which I don't think is nearly as optimized as the phone equivalent.
And I'm sorry, but multi tasking shines on this tablet compared to my time with the note. Sure it's got a quad core, but the A9 architecture is a dinosaur at this point, and the memory bandwidth just doesn't stack up, and that's really the difference.
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hoss_n2 said:
Then n10 wins at what rather than screen resolution? The note 10.1 is a complete device in terms of speed, functionality and apps tell me one thing the n10 can do it better and faster than the note 10.1 here's what note got over nexus 10
- Multiview (true side by side multitasking)
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support and 7.1 channel hd sound support
- IR port
- Dialer but HSPA data could be offered
- Browser h/w acceleration
-smart stay and smart rotate
-miracast features
-no cpu throttle and no fps drop in games
-advances anti theft and tracking system
-Bluetooth 4.0 with hd sound transfer
-and allot more
Nexus 10 is comparable to an ipad or some of ****ty asus tablets but the note 10.1 is in a completely new level
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It depends if you want a pretty and sexy and pure hoe who doesn't give you very good services but is a pleasure to admire or a fat and ugly chick with thick makeup that makes her look like cow but makes you hit explosion much faster when you close your eyes. Personal preference really.
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I don't know man, I've played with a note10, and it definitely had some performance issues compared to this tablet. A lot of it I'm sure is due to their tablet form of touch wiz, which I don't think is nearly as optimized as the phone equivalent.
And I'm sorry, but multi tasking shines on this tablet compared to my time with the note. Sure it's got a quad core, but the A9 architecture is a dinosaur at this point, and the memory bandwidth just doesn't stack up, and that's really the difference.
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You should have played with an old one with old firmware or with a one who is displayed in the market and thousands of people play with it every day, for sure you haven't tried jellybean on the note that is why you think that the nexus 10.1 multitasking is better, and as i see the number of performance problems in your forum is allot more than on the note 10.1 forum, and finally talking about the a9 processors the note 10.1 is built on same Exynos 5250 32*nm HKMG techonolgy and have overclocked gpu than the normal mail 400 gpu (533vs 220), and by trying benchmarks for i/O and memory bandwidth the performed similar to each other but in cpu the note 10.1 performed significantly higher, for sure nexus 10 is a good device but not comparable to note 10.1 in performance, functionality and speed and none of the persons who quoted my post have told me any evidence or a resonable reason that the n10 is better than the note
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Actually note 10.1 performs faster than the nexus 10 in every aspect, nexus 10 has faster gpu which performs as middle range gpu with this enormous resolution , and in terms of cpu note 10.1 performs faster and is actually more fluid than nexus 10 when multitasking, 2 cortex a15 cores are nearly equal if not less in power than the quad core a9 at same clock speed and with this screen resolution the net performance will be worse than note 10.1 ,
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dude youre wrong.. i agree on the functionality aspect. (Note 10 is better there!) BUT when it comes to sheer performance and fluidity there is NO match for the nexus 10 in the android sphere. only the ipad is more fluid on the UI.
Sheer CPU performance is probably pretty close between the two, however you aren't considering the fact that 99% of the apps out today aren't utilising 4 threads. So in 1 or 2 thread operations (which pretty much all apps are) the 2 A15 cores devastate the 2 A9 cores. Benchmarks measuring CPU performance distort results as well; if you take a look at not specifically CPU benchmarks, such as javascript based ones you can see the massive difference. Also the 32nm manufacturing process has nothing to do with the architecture and CPU power so it is completely meaningless in this comparison.
In terms of GPU performance I'm pretty sure the Note is ahead because of the 4x load on the T604, and because the 400 is a great GPU as well. Of course this isn't very noticable as I can't name more than a couple of games that don't play perfectly on the N10 and for general UI and app acceleration the power of the T604 is plenty enough.
In terms of memory bandwidth, the N10 is comparable to the iPad 3 (around 13GB/s) which is multiple times larger than any other Android device's on the market today and that pretty much eliminates the memory as a bottleneck (which it usually is).
Like I said according to many review videos and, many written reviews N10 always perform better than N 10.1 overall, of course N10.1 has the amazing S-Pen feature which makes it a better device for productivity, and the multi window task also.
daLareid said:
Like I said according to many review videos and, many written reviews N10 always perform better than N 10.1 overall, of course N10.1 has the amazing S-Pen feature which makes it a better device for productivity, and the multi window task also.
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I've seen many reviews on youtube that were actually enabling powersaving mode while reviewing (this reduces performance by about 50 %) my advice to you is to try both devices yourself before you buy anything, anyway good luck with your choice, and if you already bought the nexus 10 just forget whatever i said and have fun with it, it is still a very good device
Right now i have the Ipad 2 and i want to get away from it and move to a samsung product. I have Galaxy s4 and love it. Would you guys recommend this tablet or is there a different samsung tablet you would recommend? or should i wait till something newer comes out?
Recommend what lol? You didn't say anything. I'm not a fan of Samsung but I like the Note 2014. I've been waiting for a nexus 10 refresh but am thinking about other 8 inch options. I'm honestly just as lost as you are. I've never had a tablet and I'm still not sure if I need one
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What tablet would you guys recommend.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
zackman2091 said:
Right now i have the Ipad 2 and i want to get away from it and move to a samsung product. I have Galaxy s4 and love it. Would you guys recommend this tablet or is there a different samsung tablet you would recommend? or should i wait till something newer comes out?
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I just sold my iPad mini to buy a Note 8.0
-S-pen
-Bigger Battery
-Screen I'm used to (Since I'm coming from iPad mini)
- Better Colour Saturation (in my opinion)
-MicroSD
I would definitely recommend a Note 8 if you're looking for a small form factor tablet.
There are a number of pros to the Note 8 that I can think of, that personally aided my decision in buying one.
- Screen and Device. Slightly bigger than the Nexus 7, and not as big as a full sized tablet. My hands get very uncomfortable with large tablets, and the screen is of a perfect size and weight to do whatever tasks I want to do on the tablet. Not too big, not too small, but just right. Screen is also very easy on the eyes. You would think at 1200x800 resolution it wouldn't be crisp, but in fact the display is excellent for web browsing, reading, etc. I read books and comic books without having to zoom in at all.
- S-Pen. Perfect for writing and drawing. My son and I love playing hangman on it. It's a lot more accurate than using a finger, and since he's young he can easily practice his writing.
- Speed. This tablet has definitely got some power. When I got the Note 8, I wasn't expecting it to be as fast and responsive as it is. It never lags along and is extremely snappy with its tasks -- in the event that it does lag, it can easily be overclocked to 1.7GHz, 1.8GHz or even 1.9GHz with minimal loss of battery power.
- Build Quality. It may be plastic on the back, but it's sturdy, and the glass is top notch. Would be nicer with the fake-leather rear like the 2014 edition Note/Note 3.
- TouchWiz. Just kidding, haha. Nobody likes TouchWiz
There you have my recommendation
EDIT: Totally forgot to mention expandability! Toss a 64GB MicroSDXC inside this sucker and you've got tons of storage for books, music, movies, etc. If you root, you can also use applications like FolderMount to copy large application data to the MicroSD card, so you aren't limited to the internal storage for your apps.
Note 8.0
zackman2091 said:
Right now i have the Ipad 2 and i want to get away from it and move to a samsung product. I have Galaxy s4 and love it. Would you guys recommend this tablet or is there a different samsung tablet you would recommend? or should i wait till something newer comes out?
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Tegra Note 7 is very similar to the Galaxy Note devices in the fact that it also has an included stylus and dock within the device to hold said stylus. Not many devices come with this feature anymore, and it's something that I wish more manufacturers would employ. At last another manufacturer sees the benefit of at least having option of a stylus there to use if the user pleases, or somewhere to put it in case they don't. As the owner of a Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 myself, I am ever so grateful of the dock on the bottom right of my tablet to stick my stylus when it's not in use. Otherwise yeah, I probably would have lost the stylus countless times by now. But I digress - the fact that NVIDIA includes this feature on the Tegra Note 7 already makes it a tablet to consider, particularly as a rival to the more expensive Galaxy Note 8.0, which costs $349.
While it may not be the greatest tablet, Sprint is offering the 7 inch Samsung Tab 3 for free (technically it's $50 with a $50 rebate) with a 2 year contract. What makes it attractive is that data plans start at $5/mo.
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Another thing to consider if you can get the 3G (N5100) model is that you have always on email, web etc.
I think the Note 8 is very good. I'm happy with it and while I want more than 16 GB (actually 9.? if not rooted), I haven't run out of RAM yet.
It is a great tablet. Form, function, size, weight.
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I have a Samsung galaxy tab 2 10, I sold it 2 mount ago, and buy a galaxy note 8
I thinks galaxy note 8 is the best in size and wight.
Unless you have more specific needs than just a tablet, current edition of the Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HDX. Nexus is better for general computing and experiencing Android to it's fullest. Amazon's tablets are better if you already are invested in Amazons stuff (like Instant Video or Amazon Prime). Both are cheap and feature excellent hardware options.
I prefer the Galaxy Note 8.0 for daily driver because of the S-Pen and Samsung's greater codec support. If it wasn't for the S-Pen, I'd just use a Nexus 7 (2013).
LG's G Pad 8.3 on Google Play is basically a Nexus 7 with a larger screen and slower updates. Everything else is a fairly minor difference, unless it's an aspect that matters to you.
Spidey01 said:
Unless you have more specific needs than just a tablet, current edition of the Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HDX. Nexus is better for general computing and experiencing Android to it's fullest. Amazon's tablets are better if you already are invested in Amazons stuff (like Instant Video or Amazon Prime). Both are cheap and feature excellent hardware options.
I prefer the Galaxy Note 8.0 for daily driver because of the S-Pen and Samsung's greater codec support. If it wasn't for the S-Pen, I'd just use a Nexus 7 (2013).
LG's G Pad 8.3 on Google Play is basically a Nexus 7 with a larger screen and slower updates. Everything else is a fairly minor difference, unless it's an aspect that matters to you.
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I agree with you but you should also consider the screen size (8" instead of 7"). I've compared both N7 and Note 8 and the size difference is quite important without increasing the weight or necessary space for it.
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Wait for the newer models to come out. Its not too much time until then.
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