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8.9 / 10.1 Shared forums?

Seeing as it's likely both 8.9 and 10.1 inch Galaxy Tabs will share specs and Honeycomb, could we either give 8.9 it's own sub-forum or merge to have the forum as Galaxy Tab 2 or Galaxy Tab 8.9/10.1? Or perhaps an 8.9 forum on it's own?
Thanks

It somewhat saddens me they went with 8.9'', I wanted something comparable to the iPad's size but not smaller. Irrelevant to this thread I know...

Thanks for the idea, Bandage.
We'll wait to see if they're basically the same internally. If they are, then I'll bring up the matter with the admin team and we'll decide what will be done. Generally the deciding factor for matters like these is whether the two devices can share ROMs with little or no modification. For that, only time can tell.

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It somewhat saddens me they went with 8.9'', I wanted something comparable to the iPad's size but not smaller. Irrelevant to this thread I know...
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They are doing both...a 10.1 & 8.9... So best of both worlds!
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I wonder if they are going to "do an apple" and, on the 22nd, announce the 8.9" version, and release both of them soon after?
For me, I think 8.9 would probably be the ideal tablet size as you can use it one handed in portrait mode.
I think I am going to be between the Samsung 8.9 and the LG Optimus Pad (which there is no forum for) for my tablet purchase! I have no need for the 3D capability of the LG, so if the specs are similar, it will probably come down to price.
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I disagree
For me, 8.9" is the perfect size.
7" is too small for tablet, 9.7" (iPad) and 10.1" is too big.
8.9" would have better battery life compared to the same 10.1" because the screen is smaller. Hey, additional 15 to 30 minutes because of this is nice!
And of course, it should be lighter as well
The only thing I hope is ... better screen ... like SUPER AMOLED. I know, this not gonna happen, but ... hope is hope ... dream
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It somewhat saddens me they went with 8.9'', I wanted something comparable to the iPad's size but not smaller. Irrelevant to this thread I know...
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gogol said:
8.9" would have better battery life compared to the same 10.1" because the screen is smaller. Hey, additional 15 to 30 minutes because of this is nice!
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Not necessarily, smaller tablet may equal physically smaller battery, which may have smaller mAh.
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I am looking forward to the 8.9. Will be my first android purchase and cannot wait.

Lets hope it will not run TouchWiz as indicated here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...-tab-news-during-samsung-moble-unpacked-video
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Moderator...mind changing the forum to Galaxy Tab 8.9 / 10.1 combined? Seems both will be sharing the same specs according to Samsung. I'd love to not have to jump between separate forums for development.
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another xoom or tab 10.1?

I need another tablet for the wife. Was thinking about giving her my current xoom and getting the samsung 10.1 when it comes out.
Is there any reason why I would regret that decision? It seems like the samsung is just as open as the xoom. I have nothing against the xoom, but since I just bought a samsung galaxy sII i thought it would be nice to match it with the new tablet.
I just want to know if I am overlooking something, and there is a reason I should stick with the xoom.

Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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cesarcerros31 said:
Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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You sure about that? Last I heard, it won't even come with touch wiz.

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Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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Now, we aren't certain about anything yet.
I hate TW (Vibrant owner) as much as the next guy, but I've heard conflicting reports (too lazy to properly cite right now) on whether the new incarnation of TW will simply be a UI overlay, or a fully integrated modification to the OS.
I'm certainly keeping my ear to the ground re: the new line of Galaxy tablets.
That said, if the tablet need is now, the Xoom is the best bet IMO.

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Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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Please put a disclaimer when you post this. There is no confirmation whether or not these devices will have touch wiz. Many reports even say that if it does come with TouchWiz, it will be able to be turned off.

I actually plan on selling my Xoom once a tablet with the new Qualcomm chipset comes out. I didn't realize the media limitations of the Tegra 2 until after I bought it and am having a bit of buyers remorse now. The new Qualcomms can decode 1080p like the TI used in the Playbook. I'm not sure if this is something that can be addressed by nvidia via drivers. For the record I'm able to play high profile (4500kbps) 720p encoded with DVD Catalyst on my Xoom.
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The Samsung 10.1 tab have about same weight as the ipad2, so will be a bit lighter than the Xoom, not sure if this will affect battery life.
The biggest advantage of the 10.1 tab I think will be a better screen than the Xoom. I’m happy with the quality and viewing angle of my Xoom. However, when compared to my 7” Galaxy tab and friend's ipad, the Xoom’s screen looks dull and not as bright.
All depend on how long you want to wait for the 10.1 Galaxy tab.
Also the Galaxy tab 8.9 (470g) is almost light as the 7" Galaxy tab (380g), that might be a good 2nd tablet.
Link:
http://getandroidstuff.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-89/

Bigmille said:
The Samsung 10.1 tab have about same weight as the ipad2, so will be a bit lighter than the Xoom, not sure if this will affect battery life.
The biggest advantage of the 10.1 tab I think will be a better screen than the Xoom. I’m happy with the quality and viewing angle of my Xoom. However, when compared to my 7” Galaxy tab and friend's ipad, the Xoom’s screen looks dull and not as bright.
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From the specs we saw on the GT 10.1v (the older model) the battery size will be the same or slightly bigger than the Xoom.
FWIW. I'm growing a bit tired of the size/weight of the Xoom. The 8.9 (or other similar sized/weighted tablets) might be up my alley. The Xoom is just too clumsy and heavy for extended 1 handed use (not to mention that the UI is not very landscape 1-hand friendly). I'll take a device that is made out of plastic as long as its light and well built for the components.

I think they mentioned that the touch wiz ux is just a set of widgets and not fully integrated into the system
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That Tab 10.1 is a sexy looking device. Tough decision. It might be worth going with the 10.1 just to get the better screen, though IIRC, it doesn't have a SDcard slot (not that it's doing us Xoom owners much good right now).
That said, I think physical storage capacity is almost irrelevant anymore. I have both Amazon cloud for my music and Google cloud for pictures and docs. The only storage I actually need is for apps, and they're generally small.

The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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I think you're right. Can't remember, but I feel like the 8.9 didn't have a SDcard slot though. Could be wrong.

The new samsung galaxy 10.1 should be a nice tablet and should not come with anything but pure honeycomb with some added apps/Widgets.
Other tablets to consider, besides the ipad2 or new Samsung 10.1:
Asus transformer, which will be short on stock and hard to come by for the next few months or so. It has a nice pricepoint and some nice accessories.
Nook color, just updated to basically be a pseudo tablet but has alot of Dev/rom support so is pretty much full blow android experience.
HTC flyer, will have some very awesome features especially very accurate integration with stylus, not using honeycomb experience but should be upgraded to honeycomb soon after release.
Playbook, nice tablet but is kind of hampered at the moment and is meant more for business user in my opinion.
Toshiba 10.1 inch tablet rumored to be Google's baby and if true should get great honeycomb support. This will be THE tablet if all the rumors are true (do a Google search for nexus tablet or nexus t). We should find out at Google I/o on may 10th or 11th.
Honestly I would go with the xoom or the Toshiba tablet. I would certainly wait till Google I/o to make a decision since the xoom should have some updates coming down the pipe as well.

I for one will keep my Xoom and upgrade a year or 2 down the road (I'll give it to my wife or something) to the latest octuple core processor 1mm thick 10" tablet capable of playing 4K video flawlessly. Then I will laugh at all of you with your old samsung 10.1's! bwahahaha

I'd wait to see if it has a working fastboot first, and can flash unsigned images.

Touchwiz for Honeycomb
Anandtech is saying it will ship with Touchwiz for Honeycomb.
Halfway down the page:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4233/...1-89-smaller-than-ipad-2-competitively-priced

Those of us attending I/O this year will be going home with some Honeycomb goodies.

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Those of us attending I/O this year will be going home with some Honeycomb goodies.
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take me?
I am expecting a lot from Google this year in io, they have been way too quite about honeycomb

djsaad1 said:
I need another tablet for the wife. Was thinking about giving her my current xoom and getting the samsung 10.1 when it comes out.
Is there any reason why I would regret that decision? It seems like the samsung is just as open as the xoom. I have nothing against the xoom, but since I just bought a samsung galaxy sII i thought it would be nice to match it with the new tablet.
I just want to know if I am overlooking something, and there is a reason I should stick with the xoom.
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1's greatest attribute is how thin and light it is. Touchwiz will hinder you if you wanted to stay current with Honeycomb's latest n greatest versions.
All depends on whats important to you or your wife...whomever is going to use it.

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The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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GO CANES!!!

Xoom or galaxy tab 10.1?

Ok so I'm looking into buying an android tablet because I'm going on a road trip to Vegas in July and its a 3 day drive so I wanted to get one to stay entertained on the drive and while we r out there (I can't gamble because I'm only 16 ). So I can't decide between the galaxy tab 10.1 and the xoom.
From what I have heard the xoom's display is kinda dim and glary and the speakers r decent but it has stock 3.0 so it get direct updates which is a huge plus.
But I'm guessing the tab will have some kind of super amoled screen since just about all of their phones do so that would be a plus. But this will have a touchwiz overlay on it which is a downside because Samsung f***ing sucks with updates and I hate waiting. But if google releases the source code for 3.0 then it wont matter because I'm sure devs will make some good roms for it.
So what do you guys think will be better?
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Couldn't find the specs for the Tab 10.1 from Samsung's site but I think I found the specs on some other site and it looks to be comparable to the XOOM (The specs for the Tab: (google "samsung galaxy tab 10.1 specifications" and first link, I would post the link itself but the forum won't let me since I don't have enough posts))
Since the Tab 10.1 isn't out yet, it makes it hard to really compare based off of just specs alone (even more so when the specs can changed from now until released date in June, although they probably won't change it much now since it's getting closer to that date).
What I can see, the Tab 10.1 will have support for playback in 1080p and records in 720p. The XOOM playbacks and records in 720p. The Tab's back facing camera is only 3MP while the XOOM's 5MP. The front facing is 2MP for both.
Both tablets are using the same processor so not much to say about that.
Both tablets are using 3.0 Honeycomb but the Tab 10.1 has a few UI changes but not by much (probably by way of an add APK file since Google is not allowing manufacturers to change the core UI from my understanding, but I could be wrong).
Another thing that's different is that the Tab 10.1 will be for 3G/WiFi only while the XOOM will be upgraded to 4G LTE once available.
I, personally, gotten the XOOM because I feel in love with what it can do plus the fact that it's pure Android allows for easy and fast upgrades. Plus the fact that it's upgraded to 4G LTE is awesome for using the faster speeds once available.

Note that Xoom is NOT a Nexus device.
Meaning, it will get update from Motorola, and NOT directly from Google.
TouchWiz on GTab 10.1 is not deeply integrated on OS like in the Samsung phones. It is just apps and Widgets. It does not alter the Android Honeycomb UI.
That's about Android update.
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Ok so I'm looking into buying an android tablet because I'm going on a road trip to Vegas in July and its a 3 day drive so I wanted to get one to stay entertained on the drive and while we r out there (I can't gamble because I'm only 16 ). So I can't decide between the galaxy tab 10.1 and the xoom.
From what I have heard the xoom's display is kinda dim and glary and the speakers r decent but it has stock 3.0 so it get direct updates which is a huge plus.
But I'm guessing the tab will have some kind of super amoled screen since just about all of their phones do so that would be a plus. But this will have a touchwiz overlay on it which is a downside because Samsung f***ing sucks with updates and I hate waiting. But if google releases the source code for 3.0 then it wont matter because I'm sure devs will make some good roms for it.
So what do you guys think will be better?
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Good points. But I would only get the wifi version of either one because I already have a rooted evo to tether to. So I guess ill just wait it out and see some reviews of the Samsung tab when its out.
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Note that Xoom is NOT a Nexus device.
Meaning, it will get update from Motorola, and NOT directly from Google.
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True, but I said it as such due to the fact that the updates will be much faster since there is no core UI changes

I do love my Xoom, but play on upgrading to either the 10.1 or 8.9 Galaxy tab when the 3G/4G versions are out. It's significantly lighter and thinner than the Xoom (almost half the weight, and yes, it does matter) and I personally look forward to TouchWiz with resizable widgets and such, though I realize I'm in the minority.
Once it's out, go to the store, try them both, see how they feel. something like a tablet (or ebook reader, I got the original Nook over a Kindle because of this) it really matter how it feels in your hands, and that differs with every person.

The sexy thin Tab 10.1 for sure, if you can wait until they come out, if you need a tab now thats another debate

Gtab records 1080p video but it doesn't have HDMI out alsobwhy haven't you looked at the see pad transirmer that's my tablet and it is awesome it has IPS display and no the Gtab does not AMOLED screens

are you going to get the tab 7.7?

as replacement or upgrade or you happy with this?
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Placed pre order...it will be replacing my 10.1 ... But at this point we don't know when it is going to be released.
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its probably my first tablet..well actually my first decent tablet after the cheapo 50 dollar android 1.6 apad tablet a year ago.
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For me the two serve very different purposes so no, I won't upgrade or replace my 10.1 wifi only Tab.
One is a big, not very portable entertainment device for use at home and the other is a travel compagnon. 7.7" would be much to small for me to use as my primary tablet at home but it might be a nice size to carry around.

..going to pre-order for my wife to replace her P1000.. she wants thinner tab..and i will stay with my 10.1.

I want one today! tell me where I can order one, money is not a problem.

I've been window shopping for a tablet for a while now and when they announced this I was blown away, I can't wait to get one. Ultra thin and light, and Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 (196 ppi!!!). At first I wasn't sure what to think about the 7.7 inch size because I was originally thinking about getting a 10.1 inch tablet, but the portability of such a light tablet is very intriguing and the more I think about it it sounds like a good size. This is the largest OLED display you can get at an affordable price and it's pretty high resolution for 7.7 inches, I can imagine myself watching movies on this in bed instead of turning on the TV. I'm really hoping they can keep the price low, around $400-450 would be perfect for the 16GB Wi-Fi model.

I was all over getting this then I looked at a 10.1, it is the tab size I'm looking for. With the slightly narrower profile I can type in portrait mode and it's perfect for reading books and magazines. Most stuff I have is on Google so I don't need a lot of local space.
So no, I won't be getting a 7.7 My P1000 goes to a new home today

No, I am waiting the next ICS tablet, with quad core.
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Nope. I'm holding onto my 10.1. Gonna wait for reviews of quad cores. Then will decide whether it is worth it.

Not sure if I'll pick one up. Depends on the price. Frankly was expecting the 8.9 to be lower in price than it is. Seems like they should be priced porportional to the size of their screens.
10.1 at $499 = $49.41/inch.
The 8.9 should have been 49.41 x 8.9 or $439.71 ($439)
The 7.7 should be 49.41 x 7.7 or $380.43 ($379)
All 16gb Tegra 2 models with 1gb ram.
The Acer A100 7" tab is $329. A bargain at $47/inch.
Just a pricing theory.

I am currently thinking about a 7.7.
I had a 10.1, but returned it to the store after experiencing the Newton's Rings issue, so I am now thinking about either a Exynos Powered SGT 7.7 or a Tegra 3 powered Transformer 2.
One question I have is, does the 7.7 only come in 3G / LTE variants? If I was getting one, I would want Wi-Fi only?
Stewart

FYI - Just saw this. Tab 7.7 has microSD slot.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-ifa-2011/

I will be getting one and selling of my 10.1. Will be using this for media stuff cux its light weight and samoled+ screen. Then will get an win 8 slate for full work force (samsung slate series 7, or any newer ivy bridge slate with wacom pen). Quad core android won't help with my work much.

The 7.7 just passed the FCC. So now it is just wait and see on a release date.
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Nope. I'm waiting on a Windows 8 tablet. Android is a little buggy, laggy and the app market full of phone apps which don't look good on the Tab. Shame because the hardware is gorgeous.

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Nope. I'm waiting on a Windows 8 tablet. Android is a little buggy, laggy and the app market full of phone apps which don't look good on the Tab. Shame because the hardware is gorgeous.
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And the windows app store will have millions of apps right out of the gate. And ICS will stop phone apps from working on tablets.
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Nope. I'm waiting on a Windows 8 tablet. Android is a little buggy, laggy and the app market full of phone apps which don't look good on the Tab. Shame because the hardware is gorgeous.
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Microsoft windows is slow and bloated. They intentionally do that because they form a mafia cartel with PC manufacturers like HP. Microsoft makes slow OS while HP sells faster PCs.
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I wasn't planning on getting the 7.7 due to getting the Galaxy Note when it's released but the specs are too good to turn down. I'll be selling my 10.1 & use that money to get the 7.7.

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Thats good news. Will they stop displaying phone apps in the marketplace if you have a tablet?

All Samsung Tablets Verses Each Other

All Samsung Tablets Versus Each Other
During the last year, Samsung have lunched many tablets. Most of them have similar specification. But at the end there are difference.
Galaxy Tab 7.0
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus
Galaxy Tab 2 7.0
Galaxy Tab 7.7
Galaxy Tab 8.9
Galaxy Tab 10.1
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
Galaxy Note 10.1
All of these tablets are compared in the link below
http://whatsuptechnology99.blogspot.com/2012/03/all-samsung-tablets-verses-each-other.html

Good find
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I still can't believe they re-released the 7" and 10.1" without much improvement
Any word on when the 11.6" is rolling out?

Unfortunately, none of their larger offerings seem to stand up well against the new iPad. iOS limitations aside, that thing looks pretty nice.

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Unfortunately, none of their larger offerings seem to stand up well against the new iPad. iOS limitations aside, that thing looks pretty nice.
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It's always amazed me that Samsung in particular, with their display panel manufacturing capability, has never bothered to put out a tab with a decent resolution. I understand that there are manufacturing issues with current AMOLED technology, but there is no good reason that Apple doesn't even have WUXGA or even 1080p LCD competition in the 10" bracket. It's things like this that make me wish iOS and Apple in general weren't so awful.

Ohh please the new ipad is just a glorified updaded ipad 2, nothing really new came out. Its like the new 10.1 is an updated original 10.1. Samsung all the way
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Ohh please the new ipad is just a glorified updaded ipad 2, nothing really new came out. Its like the new 10.1 is an updated original 10.1. Samsung all the way
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Well, Apple vs Android battles are perhaps the dumbest thing going on the internet, but that new iPad screen knocks the 10.1's **** in the dirt.

adinis78 said:
Ohh please the new ipad is just a glorified updaded ipad 2, nothing really new came out. Its like the new 10.1 is an updated original 10.1. Samsung all the way
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Except there is literally 0 improvements made on the second version other than external sd card reader
Also every dimension/weight went up
It looks like apple addressed my main two gripes with their tablet. Ram and screen

Well, maybe Samsung will be neck and neck. The new 11.2 is supposedly going to have a 2560x1600 screen. So, the density will be close to the new iPad's 9.7 2048x1536 display. 11.2 is getting on the big side for portability, although that does look like a nice device. Although, no word on release timeframe.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-11-6-with-a-2560-x-1600-pixel-screen-coming-tomorrow/
Update: Whoops, looks like Samsung probably won't announce that device anyway, but instead some kind of Angry Birds crap.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44823/samsung-galaxy-tab-11-6-launching-tomorrow
Does anyone still play Angry Birds?