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another xoom or tab 10.1?

I need another tablet for the wife. Was thinking about giving her my current xoom and getting the samsung 10.1 when it comes out.
Is there any reason why I would regret that decision? It seems like the samsung is just as open as the xoom. I have nothing against the xoom, but since I just bought a samsung galaxy sII i thought it would be nice to match it with the new tablet.
I just want to know if I am overlooking something, and there is a reason I should stick with the xoom.

Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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cesarcerros31 said:
Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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You sure about that? Last I heard, it won't even come with touch wiz.

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Well its not as open because it has touch wiz
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Now, we aren't certain about anything yet.
I hate TW (Vibrant owner) as much as the next guy, but I've heard conflicting reports (too lazy to properly cite right now) on whether the new incarnation of TW will simply be a UI overlay, or a fully integrated modification to the OS.
I'm certainly keeping my ear to the ground re: the new line of Galaxy tablets.
That said, if the tablet need is now, the Xoom is the best bet IMO.

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Please put a disclaimer when you post this. There is no confirmation whether or not these devices will have touch wiz. Many reports even say that if it does come with TouchWiz, it will be able to be turned off.

I actually plan on selling my Xoom once a tablet with the new Qualcomm chipset comes out. I didn't realize the media limitations of the Tegra 2 until after I bought it and am having a bit of buyers remorse now. The new Qualcomms can decode 1080p like the TI used in the Playbook. I'm not sure if this is something that can be addressed by nvidia via drivers. For the record I'm able to play high profile (4500kbps) 720p encoded with DVD Catalyst on my Xoom.
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The Samsung 10.1 tab have about same weight as the ipad2, so will be a bit lighter than the Xoom, not sure if this will affect battery life.
The biggest advantage of the 10.1 tab I think will be a better screen than the Xoom. I’m happy with the quality and viewing angle of my Xoom. However, when compared to my 7” Galaxy tab and friend's ipad, the Xoom’s screen looks dull and not as bright.
All depend on how long you want to wait for the 10.1 Galaxy tab.
Also the Galaxy tab 8.9 (470g) is almost light as the 7" Galaxy tab (380g), that might be a good 2nd tablet.
Link:
http://getandroidstuff.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-89/

Bigmille said:
The Samsung 10.1 tab have about same weight as the ipad2, so will be a bit lighter than the Xoom, not sure if this will affect battery life.
The biggest advantage of the 10.1 tab I think will be a better screen than the Xoom. I’m happy with the quality and viewing angle of my Xoom. However, when compared to my 7” Galaxy tab and friend's ipad, the Xoom’s screen looks dull and not as bright.
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From the specs we saw on the GT 10.1v (the older model) the battery size will be the same or slightly bigger than the Xoom.
FWIW. I'm growing a bit tired of the size/weight of the Xoom. The 8.9 (or other similar sized/weighted tablets) might be up my alley. The Xoom is just too clumsy and heavy for extended 1 handed use (not to mention that the UI is not very landscape 1-hand friendly). I'll take a device that is made out of plastic as long as its light and well built for the components.

I think they mentioned that the touch wiz ux is just a set of widgets and not fully integrated into the system
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That Tab 10.1 is a sexy looking device. Tough decision. It might be worth going with the 10.1 just to get the better screen, though IIRC, it doesn't have a SDcard slot (not that it's doing us Xoom owners much good right now).
That said, I think physical storage capacity is almost irrelevant anymore. I have both Amazon cloud for my music and Google cloud for pictures and docs. The only storage I actually need is for apps, and they're generally small.

The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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I think you're right. Can't remember, but I feel like the 8.9 didn't have a SDcard slot though. Could be wrong.

The new samsung galaxy 10.1 should be a nice tablet and should not come with anything but pure honeycomb with some added apps/Widgets.
Other tablets to consider, besides the ipad2 or new Samsung 10.1:
Asus transformer, which will be short on stock and hard to come by for the next few months or so. It has a nice pricepoint and some nice accessories.
Nook color, just updated to basically be a pseudo tablet but has alot of Dev/rom support so is pretty much full blow android experience.
HTC flyer, will have some very awesome features especially very accurate integration with stylus, not using honeycomb experience but should be upgraded to honeycomb soon after release.
Playbook, nice tablet but is kind of hampered at the moment and is meant more for business user in my opinion.
Toshiba 10.1 inch tablet rumored to be Google's baby and if true should get great honeycomb support. This will be THE tablet if all the rumors are true (do a Google search for nexus tablet or nexus t). We should find out at Google I/o on may 10th or 11th.
Honestly I would go with the xoom or the Toshiba tablet. I would certainly wait till Google I/o to make a decision since the xoom should have some updates coming down the pipe as well.

I for one will keep my Xoom and upgrade a year or 2 down the road (I'll give it to my wife or something) to the latest octuple core processor 1mm thick 10" tablet capable of playing 4K video flawlessly. Then I will laugh at all of you with your old samsung 10.1's! bwahahaha

I'd wait to see if it has a working fastboot first, and can flash unsigned images.

Touchwiz for Honeycomb
Anandtech is saying it will ship with Touchwiz for Honeycomb.
Halfway down the page:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4233/...1-89-smaller-than-ipad-2-competitively-priced

Those of us attending I/O this year will be going home with some Honeycomb goodies.

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Those of us attending I/O this year will be going home with some Honeycomb goodies.
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take me?
I am expecting a lot from Google this year in io, they have been way too quite about honeycomb

djsaad1 said:
I need another tablet for the wife. Was thinking about giving her my current xoom and getting the samsung 10.1 when it comes out.
Is there any reason why I would regret that decision? It seems like the samsung is just as open as the xoom. I have nothing against the xoom, but since I just bought a samsung galaxy sII i thought it would be nice to match it with the new tablet.
I just want to know if I am overlooking something, and there is a reason I should stick with the xoom.
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The Galaxy Tab 10.1's greatest attribute is how thin and light it is. Touchwiz will hinder you if you wanted to stay current with Honeycomb's latest n greatest versions.
All depends on whats important to you or your wife...whomever is going to use it.

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The slim Samsung 10.1 has a microsd slot. It's the 10.1V that doesn't
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GO CANES!!!

are you going to get the tab 7.7?

as replacement or upgrade or you happy with this?
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Placed pre order...it will be replacing my 10.1 ... But at this point we don't know when it is going to be released.
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its probably my first tablet..well actually my first decent tablet after the cheapo 50 dollar android 1.6 apad tablet a year ago.
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For me the two serve very different purposes so no, I won't upgrade or replace my 10.1 wifi only Tab.
One is a big, not very portable entertainment device for use at home and the other is a travel compagnon. 7.7" would be much to small for me to use as my primary tablet at home but it might be a nice size to carry around.

..going to pre-order for my wife to replace her P1000.. she wants thinner tab..and i will stay with my 10.1.

I want one today! tell me where I can order one, money is not a problem.

I've been window shopping for a tablet for a while now and when they announced this I was blown away, I can't wait to get one. Ultra thin and light, and Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 (196 ppi!!!). At first I wasn't sure what to think about the 7.7 inch size because I was originally thinking about getting a 10.1 inch tablet, but the portability of such a light tablet is very intriguing and the more I think about it it sounds like a good size. This is the largest OLED display you can get at an affordable price and it's pretty high resolution for 7.7 inches, I can imagine myself watching movies on this in bed instead of turning on the TV. I'm really hoping they can keep the price low, around $400-450 would be perfect for the 16GB Wi-Fi model.

I was all over getting this then I looked at a 10.1, it is the tab size I'm looking for. With the slightly narrower profile I can type in portrait mode and it's perfect for reading books and magazines. Most stuff I have is on Google so I don't need a lot of local space.
So no, I won't be getting a 7.7 My P1000 goes to a new home today

No, I am waiting the next ICS tablet, with quad core.
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Nope. I'm holding onto my 10.1. Gonna wait for reviews of quad cores. Then will decide whether it is worth it.

Not sure if I'll pick one up. Depends on the price. Frankly was expecting the 8.9 to be lower in price than it is. Seems like they should be priced porportional to the size of their screens.
10.1 at $499 = $49.41/inch.
The 8.9 should have been 49.41 x 8.9 or $439.71 ($439)
The 7.7 should be 49.41 x 7.7 or $380.43 ($379)
All 16gb Tegra 2 models with 1gb ram.
The Acer A100 7" tab is $329. A bargain at $47/inch.
Just a pricing theory.

I am currently thinking about a 7.7.
I had a 10.1, but returned it to the store after experiencing the Newton's Rings issue, so I am now thinking about either a Exynos Powered SGT 7.7 or a Tegra 3 powered Transformer 2.
One question I have is, does the 7.7 only come in 3G / LTE variants? If I was getting one, I would want Wi-Fi only?
Stewart

FYI - Just saw this. Tab 7.7 has microSD slot.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-ifa-2011/

I will be getting one and selling of my 10.1. Will be using this for media stuff cux its light weight and samoled+ screen. Then will get an win 8 slate for full work force (samsung slate series 7, or any newer ivy bridge slate with wacom pen). Quad core android won't help with my work much.

The 7.7 just passed the FCC. So now it is just wait and see on a release date.
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Nope. I'm waiting on a Windows 8 tablet. Android is a little buggy, laggy and the app market full of phone apps which don't look good on the Tab. Shame because the hardware is gorgeous.

jhughesy said:
Nope. I'm waiting on a Windows 8 tablet. Android is a little buggy, laggy and the app market full of phone apps which don't look good on the Tab. Shame because the hardware is gorgeous.
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And the windows app store will have millions of apps right out of the gate. And ICS will stop phone apps from working on tablets.
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jhughesy said:
Nope. I'm waiting on a Windows 8 tablet. Android is a little buggy, laggy and the app market full of phone apps which don't look good on the Tab. Shame because the hardware is gorgeous.
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Microsoft windows is slow and bloated. They intentionally do that because they form a mafia cartel with PC manufacturers like HP. Microsoft makes slow OS while HP sells faster PCs.
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I wasn't planning on getting the 7.7 due to getting the Galaxy Note when it's released but the specs are too good to turn down. I'll be selling my 10.1 & use that money to get the 7.7.

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And ICS will stop phone apps from working on tablets.
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Thats good news. Will they stop displaying phone apps in the marketplace if you have a tablet?

Samsung intros Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus 7-inch tablet

Samsung intros Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus 7-inch tablet http://t.co/V02y0x2r
With honeycomb. And same resolution. As ours. Which may help in honeycomb. Port

Wonder what processor/gfx it uses.
I love my existing tab, but that does look impressive. Very svelt. Battery life should be interesting to note too, and 3g?
Now, get it out to channels quickly Samsung!
(though... hmm... I /might/ have issues convincing the wife I need the Galaxy Note coming up AND this 7+ as well.)
Smart of Samsung to keep at it, keep pushing this along as a logical upgrade to the existing one. A tablet in every possible configuration.

interesting news indeed. Would be great if Honeycomb can be ported (easily) to the original 7.0, with most of the hardware the same (in particular screen resolution).

Not sure, apart from the screen, it's surely going to be pretty different under the hood if it's using a different processor?
Don't know.

It's a duel core 1.2 with a gig of ram
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which one do you prefer this or 7.7?
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So THAT'S why we probably never got HC on our current versions of the Galaxy Tab 7.....they don't want to devalue their "latest and greatest" 7" tab that they are releasing. After all, people would probably be content with HC on their current 7" instead of spending XYZ for a new one, even though the hardware specifications are much better.
As a previous poster already said it, hopefully it would make it easier for someone to port HC over to our current tabs, although I would imagine that since it is already difficult to port over due to the hardware differences (i.e. Xoom HW different vs Samsung HW), it would be just as difficult. One can only hope....

fenguinpower said:
which one do you prefer this or 7.7?
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Thea 7.7 has a 1280*800 SAMOLED+ screen and a faster CPU. The price will be much higher though.

SG
Nice, shame honeycombe is not stable for current SG 7"

Galaxy 10.1...What the...!?

Saw one for the first time at a local shop.
Screen is AWFUL...might as well buy a ipad2 for that diluted contrast. How can Samsung, the king of displays, come out with such crapiness...Wow!
(My precious, precious 7.7...)
XK

why is this here?

Because I can not understand the HUGE difference between the 7.7 and 10.1 displays quality and would like it commented by fellow 7.7 users.
Is it OK with you?
XK

Probably a pentile display, right?
Samsung really needs to get their act together on this, is absurd that they put a pentile display in their flagship phone.
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XDAKhan said:
Because I can not understand the HUGE difference between the 7.7 and 10.1 displays quality and would like it commented by fellow 7.7 users.
Is it OK with you?
XK
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SAMOLED+ vs LCD. Big SAMOLEDs are expensive, which explains most of the price of the 7.7 compared to the 7+. A SAMOLED 10.1 is not feasible today.

XDAKhan said:
Saw one for the first time at a local shop.
Screen is AWFUL...might as well buy a ipad2 for that diluted contrast. How can Samsung, the king of displays, come out with such crapiness...Wow!
(My precious, precious 7.7...)
XK
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Samsung hasn't really got a 'good' 10.1 tab, as the Galaxy note 10.1 is as bad it seems.

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SAMOLED+ vs LCD. Big SAMOLEDs are expensive, which explains most of the price of the 7.7 compared to the 7+. A SAMOLED 10.1 is not feasible today.
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I understand that...but the TFT on my original Galaxy was quite good...and so was the one in the 8.9, which I passed only because of that "lack of SD slot" stunt.
Seeing that 10.1, it's like they're moving backwards...
XK

I actually really like last years model and cm10 jelly bean runs really well on it. Version 2 Kinda sucks. The screen isn't that great and it's ugly.
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Gilbot said:
I actually really like last years model and cm10 jelly bean runs really well on it. Version 2 Kinda sucks. The screen isn't that great and it's ugly.
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I am sorry. I should have made clear I was writing about the version 2.
...not only does Samsung load-up their "tab cannon" and sprinkle tabs all around but they also make sure the naming is as confusing as it could be...Together with screens that actual get WORSE, no wonder Mr. Hankil Yoon finds they are not doing very well
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...ere-not-doing-very-well-in-the-tablet-market/
XK

XDAKhan said:
I am sorry. I should have made clear I was writing about the version 2.
...not only does Samsung load-up their "tab cannon" and sprinkle tabs all around but they also make sure the naming is as confusing as it could be...Together with screens that actual get WORSE, no wonder Mr. Hankil Yoon finds they are not doing very well
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_...ere-not-doing-very-well-in-the-tablet-market/
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Yeah, the Tab 2 isn't the successor to the regular Tab. It's more of a low cost alternative, while the new "high end" 10.1 tablet, which you're supposed to compare to the original Tab 10.1, is the Note 10.1. AFAIK, the Note 10.1 compares well with the original Tab 10.1 in every aspect.
Yesh, confusing as hell.Samsung should have made their names more straightforward.

Quit all your damn griping and enjoy your stupid consumer electronics. Get some bleedin' perspective on life.

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Why my Galaxy Tab 10.1 WiFi P7510 still one of the BEST looking tablet on the market

Visiting a local Best Buy store checking the tablets, that's what I thought....
please do not say any thing about hardware, dual-core, etc....I meant by the look

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Visiting a local Best Buy store checking the tablets, that's what I thought....
please do not say any thing about hardware, dual-core, etc....I meant by the look
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Are you making a statement or asking a question? I'm glad you like the look of your tablet, let's see what Google will present at the upcoming event on the 29th.

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Are you making a statement or asking a question? I'm glad you like the look of your tablet, let's see what Google will present at the upcoming event on the 29th.
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To be truthful, I have been disappointed with both Google and Samsung : Google has created unnecessary slump of the tablet app quality by introducing our awkward friend honeycomb ( although everyone reaped its benefit in ICS) and Samsung because its dropping support for tablet which is very capable of ruining job ( as I am on cm10). And here's the worst part, apple aces at both these factors ( since a lot of iPad apps and mostly a device is supported for 3-4 iOS release.)
So here's the situation, unless android takes control of the tablet market soon, Microsoft with their disturbing windows 8 would!
Thus until the 29th, android's fate is in balance
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I still think Motorola tablets looked better
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wtgserpant said:
To be truthful, I have been disappointed with both Google and Samsung : Google has created unnecessary slump of the tablet app quality by introducing our awkward friend honeycomb ( although everyone reaped its benefit in ICS) and Samsung because its dropping support for tablet which is very capable of ruining job ( as I am on cm10). And here's the worst part, apple aces at both these factors ( since a lot of iPad apps and mostly a device is supported for 3-4 iOS release.)
So here's the situation, unless android takes control of the tablet market soon, Microsoft with their disturbing windows 8 would!
Thus until the 29th, android's fate is in balance
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Completely agree. Tablet specific apps really need to start turning up. There's so many more iPad specific apps compared to android, it's hard to compare.

I like the looks of the Asus Transformers.

i agree with the op. the galaxy tab is a very nice tablet I'm glad I have it

I sold my iPad 2 for galaxy note 10.1 and am extremely happy with the tab.who says that screen is bad?it may not be as good as iPad 3 , in terms of display spec on paper, but it's very nice in reality. I too was very confused before I made the purchase , after reading some reviews.But I was satisfied after getting a demo, so I went ahead with my purchase, and am extremely happy.

But i luv Galaxy Note 10.1 n Asus Nexus 7
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Weight
I also generally agree GT 10.1 looks/design are good, though I am not 100% satisfied.
But I think more important things about hardware are the weight, ergonomics for your hands, LCD quality, sound quality and so on.
I have an iPad 3, and it is very heavier than GT 10.1, ergonomics is just bad because if you hold it long your palm hurts due to its wedge like edges (GT 10.1 has rounded edges). Asus Transformer Prime's LCD was not as good as that of GT 10.1 in my opinion. iPad 3's speaker's sound was definitely louder and deep but it is mono.... GT 10.1 has stereo speakers...
Anyways, it is a shame that there are not major Android tablets to choose from. I was looking for Galaxy Tab 10.1 2, but it was a let-down. Galaxy Note 10.1 looks ugly... Nexus 7 was too small... Amazon Kindle Fire is not a real Android tablet... I am just waiting for the next big Android tablet from Samsung/Google or Sony.
PS: I do not like the design and LCD of Asus. Motorola, you are out of my choice, that's right I am a former Atrix user.

Galaxy Tab 10.1 Still Rocks
I just got done updating to pershoots 10/17 CM10 and fell in love with my tablet all over again. Aesthetically it's very minimalistic, which I Love. With support from dev's like pershoot it's still one of the best overall tablets on the market.
The only other tablet I liked as much was the Nexus 7 but more because of the power and over polish of the OS than the aesthetics. Bought a nexus 7 for the Fiancee and used it more than she did until she dropped it and broke the digitizer.
I'm looking forward to the nexus 10, samsung has great physical designs and I've learned that you can't beat a nexus device.