Hey guys I am a big fan of Android and am currently looking into getting a 7" tablet.
The only thing that is putting me off the Nexus 7 is the fact that the apps look like a enlarged version of the phone apps. I currently own a HTC One X and love it but was looking forward to a more native experience on the tablet. I am really keen on the Nexus 7 because of it's price but am also a little tempted by the iPad Mini's design and apps specifically made for tablets.
I just wanted your opinions on whether the larger tablet app selection on the iPad Mini is worth the $100 price difference between the two products? Are the enlarged phone apps on the Nexus 7 really that much of a deterrent? I am really confused at the moment and am hoping that your opinions on this issue combined with other arguments for the Nexus 7 or iPad Mini will help me in making a decision.
Thanks for your time and look forward to the replies.
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Something tells me you're not going to find many people in this thread who will say the iPad Mini is worth the $100 premium over the Nexus 7. The Nexus has better specs overall. Unless you have other reasons to consider the iPad (i.e. you have other iOS devices that could take advantage of iCloud), I can't see any reason to consider the iPad Mini
We have the N7(me) and the Ipad2(wife) in the home. Both are great gadgets but N7 is faster, smoother and has the superior os.
As for blown up phone apps its mostly a problem on the Ipad2 where the tiny 3.5 apps really look dreadful on the 10 screen. Most android apps are made for 4.3 screens and still look great on a 7.
Only arguments I can see for the Ipad mini is if you want an optical port out or the possibility of a sim card (I am not even certain that then mini will be getting those?).
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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The iPad Mini isn't a 7" tablet, it's 7.9", you should take into consideration that its considerably wider.
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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That's the reason I love Android. With iOS you need to buy a separate app for your iPhone and your iPad, prime example Borderlands for iOS, and many other "HD" games. With Android, you buy a game and it should work with all of your Android devices be it Tablets or phones.
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Nexus 7, you won't regret it
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I would wait and do a hands on side by side in a store and see which will do what YOU want best.I love my N7 but there are many things I can't do because of lack of apps that might work on the mini. jmho
Just went and got me a Nexus 7 and the girlfriend and iPad mini Friday. The only thing I think the iPad has one up on the n7 is the washed out colors. Other than that. IPad what?????
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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hmmmmmm look here http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-ipad-mini-races-the-nexus-7-towards-a-cold-hard-surface-in-a-drop-test/
Had a good look at the mini against the N7 myself.
The N7 is not built as well (though it appears to be getting better) and its screen is more washed out and smaller. Its also slightly heaver and slightly thicker and does not have a rear facing camera. It is also single band wi-fi, unlike the mini's dual band. However, its dpi is greater and its smaller and therefore easier to hold one handed or put in your pocket (not sure a bigger device would as the N7 is snug). The N7 has the more powerful innards and it uses a micro USB connector rather than a proprietary one, which means that you can get hard drives etc to connect more easily. The Nexus 7 has less apps, but it still has tens of thousands of them. The N7 is customisable, where as the Mini is not. Battery life for each is about the same.
One thing that is NOT the same is the price. A 32gb N7 with 3g is £239. An ipad mini of the same spec is £449. So, does £210 extra seem worth it for the ipad? For me it doesn't. But even if it did, I'd not get it as Apple have sucked of late in the way they have spent longer in a court room than in an R&D lab.
Even if you take out the price I would still buy the 7 over the mini. It has better specs and I couldn't ask for anything else for a tablet. Granted, it is a great looking tablet and build materials are top notch but it is not worth 100 dollars more than the 7.
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From wht i have heard, the ipad mini has better build quality than the 7. But dnt care. My nexus is a beast man!!!!!!
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Go for the N7, unless you want people call you "sheeps"
I own a Nexus 7 and an iPad 2. Personally I think the form factor as well as the materials the NExus 7 is constructed from especially when you include the Specs and pricing make it far superior to the iPad Mini. The Mini seems a bit wide for the average person to put in their pocket, the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. When looking at a 7" screen this really matter as this will be your primary web consumption device. I love the plastic back of the NExus 7 because I can put it down anywhere without worrying about scratching. So far as native tablet apps, I used to think the same thing and after reading this post I put my Nexus 7 down next to my iPad 2 and what I realized was that of course Apple makes some apps that are beautiful to look at (SOME) but the Android apps FUNCTION much more efficiently. Look at apps like Pintrest, Funimation, Plex and others. They are just more functional on the Nexus 7 and android devices.
All that said, if you are very vested into the Apple ecosystem and don't have an iPAD then the mini may b what you need. If you already have an iPad don't be redundant with an inferior device, the iPOD is better than the iPAD mini. Grab the Nexus 7 and begin your consumption.
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.. the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. /QUOTE]
At great risk of exposing my ignorance of the Apple ecosystem, I think Apple had a very good reason to keep resolution at 1024x768, matching the IPad 2 4:3 format. This is not as good for movies, but it maintains compatibility with existing Apps. Apple Apps don't scale, so they would have to be re-coded if the resolution changed. Retina display icons would just be too small in this format.
I am sure we have enough Apple agents here to correct me if I am wrong.
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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What bugs? About to pick up a nexus an like to stick to just rooting my phone.
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I own an iPad 2 and a N7. I absolutely love the N7 due to its portability, it easily fits in my pocket and I can carry it everywhere. I know the iPad mini is smaller than its larger counterpart but it is still not pocketable. The N7 does have great specs but the major disappointment for me was the lack of quality tablet apps. I don't see the point of having a quad core processor if apps don't take advantage of it. Sure its great and everything but I would choose better apps over better specs. App Store > Google Play store.
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I bought my wife a N7 and we really like it, now I need to get myself one. But the limited 16GB storage ain't cutting it and the wimpy little speakers from N7 is another negative. I'm aware of getting OTG usb adapter to run thumb drive with stickmount app but I don't want to deal with the hassle of having a dildo looking thing hanging down from the N7 tablet when i'm on the go. I don't care about custom rom either, have already tried several ROMs for the N7 in both development sections and none impresses me, they all have bugs, lag, and other crap, so I restored our N7 back to stock and it's butter smooth and couldn't be happier. I'm looking into ipad 3 64GB version or the Asus Infinity 64GB, the latter have SD slot but I keep hearing how the Asus have quality problem so I'm a bit reluctant to get another Asus. I know I would definitely enjoy the Retina display from ipad 3, i have seen one in person and it's all eye candy! Does anybody own both the N7 + ipad 3 or infinity? what's your thought?
I primarily use an iPad 3rd gen (32gb wifi). Just won an N7 thanks to ProClip, and and have found myself using it as my reading device with great success. I would recommend the iPad for the app selection alone.
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If you're not using custom ROMs and are asking this forum whether to get an ipad or an android tablet, you're either a troll or just clueless.
In either situation, I recommend you get an iPad and find a different forum.
I have a ipad 3 32GB wifi and a nexus 7. You can't go wrong with the retina display the ipad has. Like you said, It's eye candy. I do love the N7 because of it's portability. It's small, can fit in your pocket if you have big enough pockets.. I love them both. Glad I have them both!
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I have a ipad 3 32GB wifi and a nexus 7. You can't go wrong with the retina display the ipad has. Like you said, It's eye candy. I do love the N7 because of it's portability. It's small, can fit in your pocket if you have big enough pockets.. I love them both. Glad I have them both!
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Glad to hear, we already have 2 Android phones running on UKB roms along with the N7 on stock JB now, but never own anything from apple so I thought why not throw in a bit of variety? when i have the itch to flash custom roms I can always do it on the Dinc2 or the N7 so I ain't missing anything. The Retina display would be the top reason to get the Ipad 3, that long with bigger storage. I'm using the NEC PA271W on my PC for photo and video editing so I'm a bit spoiled by wide gamut display, the ipad 3 is as close to sRGB as we can get at this point in time. fishfuzz also bring up a good point, app selection, but is the long charging time really that bad on the ipad 3?
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Glad to hear, we already have 2 Android phones running on UKB roms along with the N7 on stock JB now, but never own anything from apple so I thought why not throw in a bit of variety? when i have the itch to flash custom roms I can always do it on the Dinc2 or the N7 so I ain't missing anything. The Retina display would be the top reason to get the Ipad 3, that long with bigger storage. I'm using the NEC PA271W on my PC for photo and video editing so I'm a bit spoiled by wide gamut display, the ipad 3 is as close to sRGB as we can get at this point in time. fishfuzz also bring up a good point, app selection, but is the long charging time really that bad on the ipad 3?
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At least a full night to full charge it .. especially if it's at 0.
I have both the IPad 3 and N7 and they are pretty good companions. The N7 gets used more here as it has that perfect size and we here all have Android phones. But for any critical viewing or listening we use the IPad.
If you want to spend the money go get the 64GB IPad, it's an excellent tablet and the image quality is unbeatable. The only other Android tablet would consider is the T700 and like you I have issues with trying out another Asus tablet.
Well this is a nexus forum lol... But what are u looking for in a tablet? As much as I hate apple, I will agree that they do make a quality product that is very user friendly that and they have a nice selection of apps. Memory is always important and the n7 Deff lacks memory but I have a usb otg. Also keep in mind that the ipad mini will be available soon so if size is a factor than u will have 2 options available.
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I am personally waiting for the windows tabs to come out. I am leaning towards the surface or Ativ tab.
I wanted a 7'' tablet, so ipad was no option anyway.
...and i hate apple.
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I've had a tf101 and a tf201 and no issues regarding build quality. What really annoys me about Asus tablets, and the reason I won't buy another, is that you need to unlock the bootloader to root and once is unlocked you can't ever receive over the air updates again.
If Asus won't allow me to make my tablet resellable again after rooting, I'm looking elsewhere.
I did consider a galaxy note 10.1 but the display resolution is a bit low for a 10" tab. It looks ok just text in particular just isn't that sharp.
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I have iPad3 and nexus 7. I had the tf101. The prior comments on iPad3 are true, but no one mentions the relatively sloowwwwww CPU. At the speed the market is moving, I would wait for something that has nexus 7 relative speed, iPad3 relative screen + GPU, thin and light.
The nexus 7 is nicely balanced on CPU, GPU, pixel density, screen vibrancy, energy use, responsiveness, etc. The crop of tablets next year should be able to do this, in a larger screen. I would wait.
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If you're not using custom ROMs and are asking this forum whether to get an ipad or an android tablet, you're either a troll or just clueless.
In either situation, I recommend you get an iPad and find a different forum.
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Awsome !
Hello all
I will be getting a Nexus tablet this Xmas, it will either be 32gb N7 or 16gb N10.
I'm very torn to which I should go for.
I currently have an iPad and I'm happy to be leaving IOS but I'm not sure how I'd 7" display on the N7.
My gut feeling is N7 due to the size but I'm not sure due to the size!!!
I know indecisive but that why I'm asking for your opinions.
Thank you in advance.
Do what i'm doing. Go to Sams club buy yourself a 32 gb nexus 7 use it for up to 90 days, return it and try the nexus 10 same way.
Only you can answer this really it completely depends on tour usage. I don't think it will be superior its just different. They are both nexus and both very high end devicea
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Do what i'm doing. Go to Sams club buy yourself a 32 gb nexus 7 use it for up to 90 days, return it and try the nexus 10 same way.
Only you can answer this really it completely depends on tour usage. I don't think it will be superior its just different. They are both nexus and both very high end devicea
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Cool idea but I'm in the UK and not sure if any of the stores over here do that.
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Nexus 10 will probably be the "better" tablet but it really depends on what you want. If you want to carry your tablet around everywhere then the Nexus 7 is probably a better choice. If it's going to stay at home most of the time then Nexus 10. If you're going to be watching a lot of movies then Nexus 10 is better. For reading books Nexus 7.
Nexus 7
-Small form factor (easy to carry around, very portable)
-Smaller form factor also makes it great for gaming
-Good for reading eBooks
Nexus 10
-Beautiful screen (great for videos and games)
-Better hardware
I'm waiting for a truck load of reviews.. One review I read already puts me in the `not buying' category.. I don't trust Samsumg with tablets.. They have a good track record with throwing awesome hardware into a tablet and having it perform like a Celeron trying to run Windows Vista with 512MB of RAM. I already have one 10 inch paperweight of theirs.. I'm not looking for another.
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Nexus 10 will probably be the "better" tablet but it really depends on what you want. If you want to carry your tablet around everywhere then the Nexus 7 is probably a better choice. If it's going to stay at home most of the time then Nexus 10. If you're going to be watching a lot of movies then Nexus 10 is better. For reading books Nexus 7.
Nexus 7
-Small form factor (easy to carry around, very portable)
-Smaller form factor also makes it great for gaming
-Good for reading eBooks
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-Beautiful screen (great for videos and games)
-Better hardware
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Thanks for the info, I travel quite a lot and take my iPad everywhere, browse and watch TV/films when in hotels.
I'm very tempted with N7 as I've noticed I've been using the iPad less and phone more due to size.
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Thanks for the info, I travel quite a lot and take my iPad everywhere, browse and watch TV/films when in hotels.
I'm very tempted with N7 as I've noticed I've been using the iPad less and phone more due to size.
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The N7 is a show stopper considering the price.. The N10 has (imo) A LOT to live up to considering it's twice as much as the N7.. For double the price I sure as hell better be getting more than 3inches of screen, 400mhz and Antutu scores that ring in 4000 points lower than my N7 along with other benchmarks that are worse than my N7.. I'm 35 and well beyond buying junk for material reasons and it's looking like the N10 is going to be just that.
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Thanks for the info, I travel quite a lot and take my iPad everywhere, browse and watch TV/films when in hotels.
I'm very tempted with N7 as I've noticed I've been using the iPad less and phone more due to size.
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While I cannot speak for the Nexus 10, I do own the Nexus 7 and believe the light weight and form factor to be its greatest strengths. I used to own an iPad 3, but sold it after getting the Nexus 7. The iPad always felt a little too big and heavy for use at home. In many instances I simply used my laptop/PC instead. The 7" form factor is perfect for browsing the web, reading eBooks, watching 720p movies, etc. while on the go or moving around the house.
Also, the one concern I would have in regards to the Nexus 10 are the applications themselves. From my experience with the N7, many apps on the Play market are not tablet optimized. There are basically many apps that are essentially made for phones that are blown up to fit the Nexus 7. It does not look too bad on a 7" screen, but I can only imagine phone apps being a complete waste of space on a 10" tablet. I think in time Android will get more tablet specific apps though.
Well you already have a 10 inch tablet so why not add a 7 incher to your stable? The portability and light weight of the nexus 7 really adds to its usefulness and ease of use. Reading a few reviews of the n10 is a good idea though before making your decision.
Not to encourage greed, but if this is going to be a gift then you might want to opt for the more valuable n10.
I would suggest asking this in the Nexus 10 forums too, just to get their point of view. Overall , you're going to get a bias opinion in the Nexus 7 forums and the Nexus 10 forums,just spread it out a bit.
I would suggest the N7 for its price, HD screen and form factor. It handles anything (that's optimised, **** you gameloft) you throw at it and doubles as an eReader and gaming device. The N10 is undoubtedly better for watching moves with its retina crushing 2560 x 1600 resolution screen and browsing the web, however for £130 less the N7 does that just as well. The N7 has served me well for the last 4 months or so, it lasts me a full days usage and I use it heavily as I travel a lot. My usages contains reading, albeit I a small amount, gaming, browsing, music, IRC, Text based games and watching videos. It'll survive about 6 hours screen time with full brightness and wifi.
Thank you all for your advice, I am fairly certain it will be the N7. It will be a gift and also a replacement for the iPad. I look forward to coming back to this forum when start flashing those ROM's.
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Finally made my decision, N10 is on its way, had confirmation of shipping last night.
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I love the 7...sticking with it
Cnet.com voted the Nexus 7 as their best holiday gift idea. It beat out the iPad Mini, which came in at number two:
http://cnettv.cnet.com/ultimate-gift-list-cnet-top-10-tech-ideas/9742-1_53-50135472.html
This guy over at forbes also thinks its the best gift to give (he actually cites the Cnet special as well):
http://www.forbes.com/sites/taesiky...y-season-and-why-its-not-good-news-for-apple/
I've only had mine for a week. So far I love it. Can't say its the best since I haven't played around with many others. I'd like to take the Nexus 10 for a test drive. Still, for the money, I can't think of anything better. What do you guys think?
I've had mine since August. It's my fifth tablet and by far my favorite.
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I've had mine since August. It's my fifth tablet and by far my favorite.
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Five!? Wow. What were the others and what makes this one so much better if I may ask?
I have a viewsonic g-tablet, and a transformer prime. They collect dust since I got the nexus7.
It's mainly size that makes it much more useable then those 10" tablets. Take it with me everywhere, its better for gaming also due to the size.
For the hardware and price, it really can't be beat.
I started with a 16gb on pre-order. Then they announced the 32gb. So I bought myself one of those. The girlfriend is getting my old 16gb, and I picked up another 32gb for my mom for the holidays for 229.
Really can't go wrong.
May I ask where you got the 32 for 229$
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I had a Acer a500 10" tablet before my nexus 7. I'd have to charge it about once a week, maybe not even that. My nexus 7, I have to charge about every 2 days. Noo, this isn't about battery life. Its that I can't put my nexus 7 down! I can't believe how enjoyable this device is to use. I thought I was taking a step backwards with going to a smaller screen. I was wrong. I love my nexus 7 and I use this thing everyday. Its amazing and for $200, you can't beat it. My gf loves my nexus 7 and always wants to use it. In fact she wanted jewelry for Christmas but now she wants a nexus 7 lol
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May I ask where you got the 32 for 229$
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I actually got it from Adorama but it was a cyber monday thing on ebay.. But I've seen a few people in the whos is shipping thread stickied at the top getting similar prices since.
At that price, it was a great deal. I totalled up the 16gb from the play store, with tax and shipping it would have come to 230 something. And I got the 32gb for 229 with no tax and free shipping.
Had an I pad 1 and a Kindle Fire and by far this thing is my favorite tablet to date. Just works!
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By far and away the best tablet on the market right now
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Best tablet for 200 dollars Imo
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Best 7" Tablet and probably best tablet for the price.
If you want a larger tablet, then obviously there are probably better choices out there, but they cost more $$.
After watching Cnet top 10 gifts this year. I can see why the Nexus 7 made it to the #1 spot this year.
In the area where I'm living you won't find the Nexus 7 16GB model anywhere within a 50 mile range in any stores. Cause they are flying out of the door faster then they can get them. The stores in my area still had like four 32GB model of the Nexus 7 still. Least that what they had when I called them asking how many they had. That was three days ago when I bought my Nexus 7.
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Five!? Wow. What were the others and what makes this one so much better if I may ask?
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Nook Color, Nook Tablet, Samsung Galaxy Tab, Asus TF300 and Nexus 7.
The Nooks were crippled with old versions of Android and had to be hacked to be made useful. The Galaxy Tab had Touchwiz over Android and Samsung was slow with updates. The Asus has terrible I/O issues that cause the tablet to be very slow when any I/O is being done. After having both 7 and 10 inch tablets I find for me 7 is the sweet spot and the Nexus has been my favorite.....so far.
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Maybe not the best in sheer performance, but I would definitely say the best overall when it comes to value quality and performance as a package. And its a nexus, after getting my gnex in July I don't think I'll ever get another non-nexus android device.
On another note, when I decided to get one (I buy everything in 32gb where possible) most stores were out of stock, I bought the last one office depot had in.
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Lame how CNET had to include the rubbish ipad mini as a runner up. Perhaps apple paid to get it I think there.
It doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 IMHO, it's overpriced and under spec.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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Poor battery life? Not my experience at all. of course, I've only had it for a little over a week. Still, I've used the heck out of this little device and haven't felt the need to run to the charger. Two days is my requirement. If it can last me two days with heavy use then battery life will never be an issue. The Nexus 7 does this and more. Also, maybe I have very clear vision, but I think seeing web sites in full desktop view is fine on the Nexus 7. I always hit the "request full desktop option under chrome when browsing.
But it still nice to get someone's opinion who favors other devices. IMHO, the lack of a true HD screen, the wider and taller form factor (yes it is noticeable after holding the two devices in your hand), having to look at the same static stale home screen all the time, puts the iPad Mini near the bottom spot for me. Frankly, even if the Nexus 7 was priced the same at $329, I still think it is the better buy.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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The lack of the TV output is most certainly a valid point, but I really don't know of anyone that uses that on a tablet. I have it on my Acer Iconia A100 and I have the HDMI cable and I used it once just to check it out. Not really that important with very few use cases.
The full screen web experience thing is a little confusing. You get the full desktop versions of the sites if desired. Web browsing is very snappy due to the quad core processor and 1GB of ram.
The iPad mini does have the upper hand on the battery life though, but it is by 2 hours. The iPad gets 12 hours while the Nexus 7 gets 10. I don't think I have ever used a tablet for 10 hours in a single day.
Yeah my first tablet and loving it.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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Battery life is excellent and TV out is ...
If this thing had airplay and was glued together properly it would be perfect.
Hey guys I recently got a Nexus 7 but have noticed that it is nowhere as smooth as my Nexus 4 even when running Paranoid Android. I don't play video games and only use it to watch YouTube videos. I don't really think I need it. Unless you guys have some amazing ideas for me I'm probably going to get a refund on it.
Thanks guys
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I love having my N7. Use it with Apex launcher/stock rom/rooted while at home. It's so light and the screen is mesmerizing to me. Save the N4 for work/on the go. There's no way I could go back to only N4/laptop. I see a bit of lag every once in a while (was really bad with Nova) but must have a nice tablet now and hate the weight of all ten inch ones.
I use my tablet (A500) whenever I want to play or watch youtube videos, it's nice to have another device with the same options as your phone
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Hey guys I recently got a Nexus 7 but have noticed that it is nowhere as smooth as my Nexus 4 even when running Paranoid Android. I don't play video games and only use it to watch YouTube videos. I don't really think I need it. Unless you guys have some amazing ideas for me I'm probably going to get a refund on it.
Thanks guys
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OK. Here's my opinion on tablets in general. Seven inch tablets are made for those who can't afford a ten inch tablet. That doesn't necessarily mean people buy them because of that, it's just the target demographic. Now, seven inch tablets do come in handy when you need a device for FPS gaming or portability. They own that area. And the very best seven inch is the Nexus 7, so if you want a seven inch tablet, buy the Nexus 7.
But...in every other area 10 inch tablets win. Usually they're top of the line, have back cameras (if you need one), are much easier to type on, and generally have better screens. So in this area for Android you have a few flagship tablets such as the Nexus 10, Note 10.1, and Infinity. The Nexus 10 is having major light bleed issues. I picked up one and exchanged it to find the second had it worse. So I returned it and bought an iPad. Yes. An iPad. I would never buy an iPhone, but the tablet experience on an iPad is stellar. I'm still mesmerized by how smooth everything is and how well it works. So don't be an Android fanboy and exclude the iPad if you're considering going for ten inch tablets. It's quite possibly the best of them all (in my opinion, anyway).
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OK. Here's my opinion on tablets in general. Seven inch tablets are made for those who can't afford a ten inch tablet. That doesn't necessarily mean people buy them because of that, it's just the target demographic. Now, seven inch tablets do come in handy when you need a device for FPS gaming or portability. They own that area. And the very best seven inch is the Nexus 7, so if you want a seven inch tablet, buy the Nexus 7.
But...in every other area 10 inch tablets win. Usually they're top of the line, have back cameras (if you need one), are much easier to type on, and generally have better screens. So in this area for Android you have a few flagship tablets such as the Nexus 10, Note 10.1, and Infinity. The Nexus 10 is having major light bleed issues. I picked up one and exchanged it to find the second had it worse. So I returned it and bought an iPad. Yes. An iPad. I would never buy an iPhone, but the tablet experience on an iPad is stellar. I'm still mesmerized by how smooth everything is and how well it works. So don't be an Android fanboy and exclude the iPad if you're considering going for ten inch tablets. It's quite possibly the best of them all (in my opinion, anyway).
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Cool story bro
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A 7 inch tablet is evolution of the eBook readers to me.
EBook readers where extremely popular. Let's take the basic form factor and make a it full fledge tablet. So yeah you can use it as a eBook reader and...movies,internet, email, games and everything else that full android device can do.
it depends on your routine.
if you have a nexus 4 you don't need a nexus7, nexus10 yes with its display, prefect for ebooks and Paranoid android, ,the nexus4 and its large screen is fine, I will get a 10 inch when its here, just for reading at night, I use my phone more so tablets are excess luxury goods
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Is there anything I wrote that isn't true?
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I use my N7 for netflix or youtube, or use it while my N4 charges...
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Yes, 7 inch aren't aimed at people who can't afford 10" tabs, they are aimed at people who want a more portable solution but a bigger screen than a phone.
IPad 4 ftw!
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Have owned an iPad 2 for a year now. Has been collecting dust ever since I bought Galaxy Nexus and then N4. Watching video? LOL @ Youtube fail. Website? N4 is ok. Playing games? too heavy. I'm still waiting for someone to suggest some use for me.
I don't feel a need for a tablet personally. I have a transformer which I used when it was newer than my phone. If i was to get a nexus 10 I may use it more than my Nexus 4. It just seems pointless to have a tablet and a phone when most of my usages are done on a desktop.
It depends what kind of a person you are. For me i use whatever is newer in my hands.
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Yes, 7 inch aren't aimed at people who can't afford 10" tabs, they are aimed at people who want a more portable solution but a bigger screen than a phone.
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Which proves that you didn't read what I wrote. I said they were marketed towards those people. You don't see many (none that I can think of) seven inch tablets over $250, whereas ten inch tablets range from $250-$1000 depending on the model and storage. So, of course, seven inch tablets are getting better, but there are still none of them that are as powerful and "luxurious" as the high end ten inch tablets on the market.
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It's opinion, rather than being true.
Don't think I'll ever buy another 10 incher as they are too big and clunky for general lounging about the house.
For me, the nexus 7 is perfect in terms of size, speed, utility for browsing and email etc. If I need to do any serious typing or work, that's when the tool for that job comes out ie. Iaptop rather than tablet.
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I would never use an ipad because the design is beyond awful. Personally, i don't like the ios look. It's just me, but it's old, i had my ipod touch for years, I'm done with that look, and every app you get from ios follows the same rounded and glossy theme. I like squares, and i like matte. That aside though, you can barely put icons on the screen, which i guess doesn't matter because anyways because the reason why iblike my two bottom rows of 10 icons is so i can use widgets, which the ipad can't. I also dislike the back button. Unless I'm mistaken, it's still in the upper left? Which means that, right now as i type in portrait mode, i could not go back without setting my device down, repositioning my hands, pressing back, then reholding the device again. Same goes for the status bar (I'm using a kf2 i got from a raffle so it still has a classic status bar, and it's awful, i can't reach the touch of the screen, the idea is great on phones, bad on tablets, it's why they have a bottom status bar)
And in the very end, i like to tinker. I may be odd but in the end of the day i like to play with things. Break things. Get new themes, try new fonts, play with devs unique roms, see what my device can do. That's just so much better on android, especially being here at xda.
I just don't see anything the ipad really does right, uness you do like the look, then having that look across all apps would be nice for you, but the ui is still just annoying to use compared to android for tablets.
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It's opinion, rather than being true.
Don't think I'll ever buy another 10 incher as they are too big and clunky for general lounging about the house.
For me, the nexus 7 is perfect in terms of size, speed, utility for browsing and email etc. If I need to do any serious typing or work, that's when the tool for that job comes out ie. Iaptop rather than tablet.
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Actually, it's completely true. High end tablets such as the Infinity, Nexus 10, and iPad 4 have better hardware and generally better designs.
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I would never use an ipad because the design is beyond awful. Personally, i don't like the ios look. It's just me, but it's old, i had my ipod touch for years, I'm done with that look, and every app you get from ios follows the same rounded and glossy theme. I like squares, and i like matte. That aside though, you can barely put icons on the screen, which i guess doesn't matter because anyways because the reason why iblike my two bottom rows of 10 icons is so i can use widgets, which the ipad can't. I also dislike the back button. Unless I'm mistaken, it's still in the upper left? Which means that, right now as i type in portrait mode, i could not go back without setting my device down, repositioning my hands, pressing back, then reholding the device again. Same goes for the status bar (I'm using a kf2 i got from a raffle so it still has a classic status bar, and it's awful, i can't reach the touch of the screen, the idea is great on phones, bad on tablets, it's why they have a bottom status bar)
And in the very end, i like to tinker. I may be odd but in the end of the day i like to play with things. Break things. Get new themes, try new fonts, play with devs unique roms, see what my device can do. That's just so much better on android, especially being here at xda.
I just don't see anything the ipad really does right, uness you do like the look, then having that look across all apps would be nice for you, but the ui is still just annoying to use compared to android for tablets.
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To each their own. But it's surprised me how much I've enjoyed my iPad 4 considering the only devices I've purchased in the past two years have been Android devices. The change is definitely welcome...to me, anyway.
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Yes. 7 inches are better than 10 inches. I sold my transformer for the nexus 7 because the transformer was too large it wasn't all that comfortable for one handed use. It was useless on most games. Typing required the keyboard or pretyping finger stretches. The 7 allows you to do everything a 10 can do but without the bulk. The only benefit a 10 has is if you are sharing a video and therefore need more screen, or you are doing something that requires a lot of screen real estate.
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if you care about having a larger screen for mobile gaming or browsing on the go, if its for home only use i see no reason for a tablet because at this point no tablet are as good at browsing, gaming (depends), or productivity as a full computer. in fact, i got an infinity with dock for school, and later exchanged it for a chromebook because its only a little heavier but works so much better for school because of its great keyboard and much better online google docs experience
I went to best buy to get the Nexus 7 2 and got the iPad mini instead.
After looking at the narrow Nexus 7 it felt like a big phone, didn't like it. I love android, had all the top phones and tablets. Decided to keep the galaxy s4, and for the tablet none of the tablets are any good for android. I feel like the iPad mini has the best size screen even with the low resolution it looks more cleaner and more space on the screen. Android tablets are still can't fide the real comfortable size. Galaxy Tab 3 8 is the best size I wish Nexus was made by samsung . like a Nexus 8.
Android is the best so I might return the iPad mini and get a tab 3 8 inch.
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I went to best buy to get the Nexus 7 2 and got the iPad mini instead.
After looking at the narrow Nexus 7 it felt like a big phone, didn't like it. I love android, had all the top phones and tablets. Decided to keep the galaxy s4, and for the tablet none of the tablets are any good for android. I feel like the iPad mini has the best size screen even with the low resolution it looks more cleaner and more space on the screen. Android tablets are still can't fide the real comfortable size. Galaxy Tab 3 8 is the best size I wish Nexus was made by samsung . like a Nexus 8.
Android is the best so I might return the iPad mini and get a tab 3 8 inch.
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I have been struggling with the narrower screen myself. My mini is idea screen size and weight. Google has everything else beat except the narrow screen. It really is like a big phone. I will certainly sell this N7 if a mini retina comes out.
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I went to best buy to get the Nexus 7 2 and got the iPad mini instead.
After looking at the narrow Nexus 7 it felt like a big phone, didn't like it. I love android, had all the top phones and tablets. Decided to keep the galaxy s4, and for the tablet none of the tablets are any good for android. I feel like the iPad mini has the best size screen even with the low resolution it looks more cleaner and more space on the screen. Android tablets are still can't fide the real comfortable size. Galaxy Tab 3 8 is the best size I wish Nexus was made by samsung . like a Nexus 8.
Android is the best so I might return the iPad mini and get a tab 3 8 inch.
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great story.
enjoy that god awful display on that tablet.
"none of the tablets are any good for android."
lol okay, that's why the Nexus 7 and New Nexus 7 were such big sellers, right? lol. these whiny threads are getting ridiculous; time for a cleanup.
Its narrow for many reasons.
Easier to hold in one hand, lack of availability of high resolution screen at 8 inch, and battery consumption.
Sorry you got the mini instead but you should've spent more for the iPad 4 instead because the mini is more of a compromise than the new Nexus 7. I personally can't stand using iPad mini due to the screen resolution. I love the 8 inch size but still prefer 1280x800 7 inch, and the new Nexus has 1920x1200 which also has absolutely stunning accurate colors.
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Its narrow for many reasons.
Easier to hold in one hand, lack of availability of high resolution screen at 8 inch, and battery consumption.
Sorry you got the mini instead but you should've spent more for the iPad 4 instead because the mini is more of a compromise than the new Nexus 7
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Just got the mini to try because the screen size was better.
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I wish there was a Nexus 8
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Yea I hate being able to hold my devices in my grips. If I'm not forced to hold it with 2 hands, I don't want it.
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I sort of get what you mean with iPad mini feeling cleaner, the wider screen does look really nice, even with the crap resolution
Although I still hate iPads.
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Just got the mini to try because the screen size was better.
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Lower resolution, slower processor, less RAM, and ****tier GPU.
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I wish there was a Nexus 8
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Galaxy note 3 8.1 maybe what you are looking for... When it hits
I tried to care about your purchase. I really did. But right when the care was about to blossom, it died inside me like my soul.
GTFO of here with your Apple talk....
Let's hijack this thread to be, "How I'm going to spend the extra $70 in my pocket."
I'll start:
With the $70 bucks I saved buying a Nexus 7 instead of an i*ad mini, I'm going to buy a case, a wireless charging station, and a USB OTG cable.
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I wish there was a good 4:3 tablet for Android. It really makes the screen feel much roomier
I myself wish the N7 was a N8, but 16:10 is a perfect balance between text reading and widescreen multimedia, and you're doing a lot of the latter.
I like the narrow shape of the Nexus 7 because it actually fits in the pocket much better than the old one. Ipad mini will not fit in any of my pockets. But I can understand in getting a iPad mini but not this one; wait until they do something with the screen. The mini is old and out gunned by this Nexus and it's a full $100 cheaper when comparing list cost. Even if both were the same price the new Nexus is still the clear winner. There is no competition for the Nexus 7 FHD at the moment. Just stating the facts.
Android tends to have screens that come in 16:9 aspect ratio (or similar size) and iPads use a 4:3 aspect ratio.
Each has their plus and minus. Most prefer watching video on a 19:9 display and internet surfing on iPad type display. Watching video on a 4:3 display bothers me more than surfing on a 16:9 display. I also like the "narrowness" of the new Nexus 7, as it make it easy to hold one handed and adds to portability.
To each their own, as long as you happy... all is good.
As far as non of the Tablets being any good for Android, I and many others would disagree. But it's you opinion, and your entitled to it, but it is just that... an opinion.
I have to say, and don't take this the wrong way. I'm not really sure why you felt the need to make such a post, that really does nothing but clutter the forum. I sometimes have to restrain myself from posting things, because I decide it's just not worth posting and does not contribute to the community.
i don't get how any of you can sit here and claim the screen on the ipad mini is better because it's 1 inch bigger, dstepite it's HORRIBLE, pixelated resolution.
if a screen has crap resolution, it doesn't matter how big it is; it's awful to look at, and it's not a good screen. the ipad mini screen technology is years old, yet STILL more expensive than a nexus 7 which is current tech. i'm sorry, but i'd rather look at an inch smaller screen with a much higher resolution than an ipad mini where you can literally see every single pixel because it's just an awful screen.
Nexus 7 screen is beautiful but too narrow. I'll just give the iPad to my kid and get me a Galaxy tab 3 8inch. Hate the iOS.
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Seems like people will never stop complaining hehe.
2012: Damn the bezel is too huge, they need to narrow it
2013: The bezel is too narrow, I can't do my stuff on it anymore...
I feel you on the size I would kill for a nexus 8 but you just paid more for an 8 inch iPad 2 like 100 dollars more and the new one will be out in September. I love the design and performance of nexus 7 its faster than my gf iPad 4
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i don't get how any of you can sit here and claim the screen on the ipad mini is better because it's 1 inch bigger, dstepite it's HORRIBLE, pixelated resolution.
if a screen has crap resolution, it doesn't matter how big it is; it's awful to look at, and it's not a good screen. the ipad mini screen technology is years old, yet STILL more expensive than a nexus 7 which is current tech. i'm sorry, but i'd rather look at an inch smaller screen with a much higher resolution than an ipad mini where you can literally see every single pixel because it's just an awful screen.
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Yeah I don't think some of them have used an iPad mini for a day the screen sucks
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