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Farewell TF101.

I sold my TF101 today on ebay for 245 no dock 8gb and a leather case. My baby was in good condition. I will be getting a Nexus 7 for now. Until they come up with something higher than 1080p and quad core.
It's funny I'm going from 10.1 to a 7inch. I hate 7 inch tablets but since it's a Google tablet. I'm giving it a try.
I'm going to miss this community. We have so many talented devs here. I hope the Nexus 7 forum is the same.
It will be shipped on Tuesday morning. I have one last day with it.
If any of you got a Nexus 7 please leave some feeds thanks :'(
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Nexus 7 is great I have TF101 and N7. Just watch out for screen lift in your device and you might want to wait for a new batch of N7 for them to fix it.

i was going to get a higher res one and/or faster one but now that jellybean is out this thing is so damn fast... i'm pretty picky and i'm actually happy with it. i wish the bezel was smaller though.
looking at the windows 8 tabs since i'm enjoying my samsung focus flash.

It would be interesting to hear a long term (after the honeymoon) report from you six months down the road. Specifically looking to hear what your experience was going from a 10 to a 7.

I waited for the Infinity and now I'm waiting for the Amazon Fire 2. By Sep 6 I will know for sure if the F2 will beat the N7 then decision time!
BTW, I'm keeping my 101s. The 1280x800 res will be here for a long time and the Tegra 2 is not a slouch either.

What do you think the Kindle Fire will have that will make it so compelling? Stock Google love with Tegra 3 and a 216ppi display is pretty hard to beat.

Yup its gone so sad I'm using my Sensation now till the N7 gets here
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I was considering doing the same, but I thought that the portrait orientation and smaller screen size would outweigh the benefits of the Nexus 7. I'm very happy with my TF101, and if I'm going to get a new tablet it would have to be of a similar size.

you`ll regret it I am afraid, 7 inch is too small.

Had the original galaxy tab and as my first major android device I thought it was wicked. Only issue for me is that it genuinely felt like an over sized smart phone at times so when I got the tf with the dock it just felt like a proper tablet experience.
However, I've heard the nexus7 is a great performer and video and games run real sweet. I sometimes miss that pocket size portability of the gtab...... but then I guess that's why I got my s2.
Thinking about the tf300 but may wait for the infinity and the big price drop that I've been informed about.
All the best dude

My primary reason for getting a 7 is portability and if the F2 can match the N7 with better memory and battery life then I may go for it. Just have to wait and see what Amazon has to offer.
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I had a seven inch tablet before my Transformer. It was very portable so I see the attraction to the form factor. My personal preference is for the ten inch though.

grgmre said:
I had a seven inch tablet before my Transformer. It was very portable so I see the attraction to the form factor. My personal preference is for the ten inch though.
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I initially didn't want a 7 but as the resolution improved so did the legibility, N7 is definitely one of my choices but Amazon's next tab is about to be announced so holding my breath.

I was considering the N7, but since I have a Galaxy S2 (which, while not GNote-sized, is pretty big already), I don't need a portable tablet. I might switch up or get the Surface tablet though... that keyboard cover looks interesting. But I mean, that's what I thought about the keyboard dock too.

I have both the TF and the N7, and ever since I picked up the N7 about a month ago, that's all I use. The speed is incredible. I've run RaymanFX's JB ROM and CM9, and while both were improvements over stock, it doesn't hold a candle to the smoothness of the N7. Most of my tablet use is browsing in Chrome, and that's also where there's the biggest difference. The performance improvement in other areas isn't as dramatic.
The other major plus is the portability. It fits in my suit pocket, my jacket pocket, and even in the pockets of my shorts. As a result, I'm more likely to carry it around with me. I never bothered tethering before, but since I have the N7 with me often, it comes in handy.
If a keyboard is somewhat important, there are a number of folio cases with BT keyboards available for about $30-40. Sure, it's not as elegant as the TF solution, but it works. Since you're coming from HC/ICS on the TF, I would strongly recommend switching your N7 to the tablet UI. The phone UI just doesn't do it justice.
The N7 will probably be my last Android tablet for a while. I'm looking to pick up the Transformer Book. I'm a Windows consultant, so the idea of a Windows 8 tablet/laptop is pretty appealing. Plus I can run StarCraft .

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I have both the TF and the N7, and ever since I picked up the N7 about a month ago, that's all I use. The speed is incredible. I've run RaymanFX's JB ROM and CM9, and while both were improvements over stock, it doesn't hold a candle to the smoothness of the N7. Most of my tablet use is browsing in Chrome, and that's also where there's the biggest difference. The performance improvement in other areas isn't as dramatic.
The other major plus is the portability. It fits in my suit pocket, my jacket pocket, and even in the pockets of my shorts. As a result, I'm more likely to carry it around with me. I never bothered tethering before, but since I have the N7 with me often, it comes in handy.
If a keyboard is somewhat important, there are a number of folio cases with BT keyboards available for about $30-40. Sure, it's not as elegant as the TF solution, but it works. Since you're coming from HC/ICS on the TF, I would strongly recommend switching your N7 to the tablet UI. The phone UI just doesn't do it justice.
The N7 will probably be my last Android tablet for a while. I'm looking to pick up the Transformer Book. I'm a Windows consultant, so the idea of a Windows 8 tablet/laptop is pretty appealing. Plus I can run StarCraft .
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You took the words out of my mouth, a 7incher is definitely more convenient to carry around. AFA Amazon's K2, if it comes with free 3G like their KDX it could blow away the competition. With GPS and 3G, navigation will be an attractive feature.

So what would you guys suggest, a 10 inch or 7 inch tablet? I'm really torn in the decision to keep my TF101 or "upgrade" to a 7 in Nexus 7. I know it is easier to carry around but is the 3 inch difference in screen size a major difference. I need your opinions!

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So what would you guys suggest, a 10 inch or 7 inch tablet? I'm really torn in the decision to keep my TF101 or "upgrade" to a 7 in Nexus 7. I know it is easier to carry around but is the 3 inch difference in screen size a major difference. I need your opinions!
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7 inch on the road, 10 inch or more at home or office. But format is only part of the story, the other consideration is specs like wifi, gps, camera and bluetooth. I intend to have both.

I was going to but the N7 at staples on Tuesday but ima wait for amazon offer (s) first before I spend money. I still need a tablet.i hate using my vita at my college.
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Shmi117 said:
So what would you guys suggest, a 10 inch or 7 inch tablet? I'm really torn in the decision to keep my TF101 or "upgrade" to a 7 in Nexus 7. I know it is easier to carry around but is the 3 inch difference in screen size a major difference. I need your opinions!
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for me it´s a simple choice, i´m always with a backpack so 10 or 7 it really doesn´t matter...
but from experience, i found the tf101 a little "tall" for portrait reading... the balance is just not right to do that naturally..

I need your help deciding if I should get the note 10.1

so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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RussellEstridge25 said:
so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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There are a ton of posts already with comparisons. If u search for them u can get more information.
Note is the best 10 inch tablet, while n7 is the best 7 inch tablet.
Figure out if u like 10ijch or 7 inch better.
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I have both and use them for different reasons. I like to game and read books on the Nexus 7 due to the size.
With the Note 10.1 I like to surf the web, watch movies and listen to music.
If I had to pick one it would be the Note 10.1 due to the quality, the specs and the overall function.

I came from xoom to here n i nvr regret at all

Note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why get the Nexus 7 when you can just look at your phone? Also, the Note has the pen.
I bought the Note and gave my 7 inch tablet to my GF. Haven't regretted that choice for a second.
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?

RussellEstridge25 said:
So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Are you serious? How can you ask people which tablet is "better" for you when you don't even know the basic specs of either tablet? Sounds like you need to do some research before asking your questions -- otherwise, we won't be able to really help you.
Nexus 7:
7 inch
vanilla android 4.1 (JB)
Tegra 3
$199-$250
Note 10.1:
10 inch
Currently android 4.0, soon to be updated to 4.1 w/Touchwiz
Exynos 4412 + Mali 400MP
s-pen
$499-$550
What you're asking is comparing apples vs oranges. Which of these tablets is right for you is for YOU to decide. What you want to do with your tablet has everything to do with which one you should choose. Do you value the S-pen? If so, buy the note. Do you want an inexpensive device running plain jellybean with updates straight from Google? Get the Nexus 7.
Whatever you do, do your homework first & familiarize yourself with the devices. The specs and info on both are everywhere on the web. If you want to hear about people's experiences with the Note 10.1, there are TONS of posts here detailing just that. Head over to the Nexus forums to find similar posts on that device, too. Go to the store and play with both in hand. Read about which one is good for the tasks you want it to do. Make yourself a list of pros and cons for each. Given that the two devices you've listed are so vastly different in spec and usage, I should think your choice will end up being an easy one.
That said, I love my Note 10.1, but I bought it specifically for the s-pen feature. It just happens to outperform all of my other devices at just about everything else, too, so I've no regrets with my purchase. Sound quality is amazing (both speakers and with my headphones). I love S-Note & Photoshop Touch. Video playback is great. Games run beautifully & I do not believe I've had a single FC yet. It does everything I want & it does it with ease.

RussellEstridge25 said:
So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Yes. As others have posted in XDA, not yet.
To expand on my answers, you should know that not all games will work on the Nexus 7 stock due to its size. Same as some games may not work on the 10" platform either (although more seem to run on 10" than 7").
Honestly you should go and figure out why you want a tablet in the first place THEN ask questions. Sounds to me like you are partially obsessed with having the newest Android OS and gaming, which as of this moment leaves you with the Nexus 7 since it is the only one with Jelly Bean stock.

I appreciate all your feedback. I know I'm coming off like I didn't do any research but I did do some... I have never owned a tablet so I wanted some feedback on which one is best. There is no one thing I want to do with it, I want the best tablet to do everything. I want to basically replace my laptop and then some. I want a big screen so this one appealed to me, I want to be able to play games with no lag, software isn't a deal breaker for me but I'm sure JB will get to this device soon enough. I love Sammy, I currently have the epic 4g touch and love it. I've heard excellent thing about the nexus 7 and nothing about the note 10.1 from friends. So I came here...

RussellEstridge25 said:
I want to basically replace my laptop and then some.
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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.

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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.
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Mainly just browsing, downloading files such as roms, and the occasional torrent file, I have a separate work laptop for all that other stuff. What do you all use yours for?

If you're even considering the Nexus 7, then you're not focused on power. So I'd say that it comes down to 2 things: Are you A)Buying it for any productivity related reasons that would benefit from having a stylus, or B) Going to be playing lots of graphic intensive games? If you answered "yes" to either if these questions, then pick up the Note (Although you could get by with the newest galaxy tab for gaming).If not, get the 7.

The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.

Justinchi said:
The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.
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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
Also the Nexus 7 will have a much more active dev scene, if that is what you are into.
That said I went with the Note 10.1. It's actually Samsung's TouchWiz interface and apps that won me over

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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
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I own both devices and the Note 10.1 is clearly better for gaming due to faster and smoother performance and much better speakers.

Would pick the note....I came from the transformer prime....No tegra graphics but everything else is a plus....hands down winner for me is the note

I also have both and have hardly touched the Nexus 7 since I got the Note.
If I had to choose only one, it would be the Note without even stopping to blink.
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I just got a Note
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!

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I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!
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I heard the note is more pixelated, and wouldn't the nexus 7 be more ideal for games since you can hold it easier? Not that gaming is the deal breaker for me by any means....

[Q] iPad Mini vs Nexus 7

Hey guys I am a big fan of Android and am currently looking into getting a 7" tablet.
The only thing that is putting me off the Nexus 7 is the fact that the apps look like a enlarged version of the phone apps. I currently own a HTC One X and love it but was looking forward to a more native experience on the tablet. I am really keen on the Nexus 7 because of it's price but am also a little tempted by the iPad Mini's design and apps specifically made for tablets.
I just wanted your opinions on whether the larger tablet app selection on the iPad Mini is worth the $100 price difference between the two products? Are the enlarged phone apps on the Nexus 7 really that much of a deterrent? I am really confused at the moment and am hoping that your opinions on this issue combined with other arguments for the Nexus 7 or iPad Mini will help me in making a decision.
Thanks for your time and look forward to the replies.

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Something tells me you're not going to find many people in this thread who will say the iPad Mini is worth the $100 premium over the Nexus 7. The Nexus has better specs overall. Unless you have other reasons to consider the iPad (i.e. you have other iOS devices that could take advantage of iCloud), I can't see any reason to consider the iPad Mini

We have the N7(me) and the Ipad2(wife) in the home. Both are great gadgets but N7 is faster, smoother and has the superior os.
As for blown up phone apps its mostly a problem on the Ipad2 where the tiny 3.5 apps really look dreadful on the 10 screen. Most android apps are made for 4.3 screens and still look great on a 7.
Only arguments I can see for the Ipad mini is if you want an optical port out or the possibility of a sim card (I am not even certain that then mini will be getting those?).
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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The iPad Mini isn't a 7" tablet, it's 7.9", you should take into consideration that its considerably wider.
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You already have One x, then go for N7. That way, you only need to spend once for every app you like. More practical and economical too.
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That's the reason I love Android. With iOS you need to buy a separate app for your iPhone and your iPad, prime example Borderlands for iOS, and many other "HD" games. With Android, you buy a game and it should work with all of your Android devices be it Tablets or phones.
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Nexus 7, you won't regret it
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I would wait and do a hands on side by side in a store and see which will do what YOU want best.I love my N7 but there are many things I can't do because of lack of apps that might work on the mini. jmho

Just went and got me a Nexus 7 and the girlfriend and iPad mini Friday. The only thing I think the iPad has one up on the n7 is the washed out colors. Other than that. IPad what?????
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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hmmmmmm look here http://blog.gsmarena.com/the-ipad-mini-races-the-nexus-7-towards-a-cold-hard-surface-in-a-drop-test/

Had a good look at the mini against the N7 myself.
The N7 is not built as well (though it appears to be getting better) and its screen is more washed out and smaller. Its also slightly heaver and slightly thicker and does not have a rear facing camera. It is also single band wi-fi, unlike the mini's dual band. However, its dpi is greater and its smaller and therefore easier to hold one handed or put in your pocket (not sure a bigger device would as the N7 is snug). The N7 has the more powerful innards and it uses a micro USB connector rather than a proprietary one, which means that you can get hard drives etc to connect more easily. The Nexus 7 has less apps, but it still has tens of thousands of them. The N7 is customisable, where as the Mini is not. Battery life for each is about the same.
One thing that is NOT the same is the price. A 32gb N7 with 3g is £239. An ipad mini of the same spec is £449. So, does £210 extra seem worth it for the ipad? For me it doesn't. But even if it did, I'd not get it as Apple have sucked of late in the way they have spent longer in a court room than in an R&D lab.

Even if you take out the price I would still buy the 7 over the mini. It has better specs and I couldn't ask for anything else for a tablet. Granted, it is a great looking tablet and build materials are top notch but it is not worth 100 dollars more than the 7.
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From wht i have heard, the ipad mini has better build quality than the 7. But dnt care. My nexus is a beast man!!!!!!
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Go for the N7, unless you want people call you "sheeps"

I own a Nexus 7 and an iPad 2. Personally I think the form factor as well as the materials the NExus 7 is constructed from especially when you include the Specs and pricing make it far superior to the iPad Mini. The Mini seems a bit wide for the average person to put in their pocket, the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. When looking at a 7" screen this really matter as this will be your primary web consumption device. I love the plastic back of the NExus 7 because I can put it down anywhere without worrying about scratching. So far as native tablet apps, I used to think the same thing and after reading this post I put my Nexus 7 down next to my iPad 2 and what I realized was that of course Apple makes some apps that are beautiful to look at (SOME) but the Android apps FUNCTION much more efficiently. Look at apps like Pintrest, Funimation, Plex and others. They are just more functional on the Nexus 7 and android devices.
All that said, if you are very vested into the Apple ecosystem and don't have an iPAD then the mini may b what you need. If you already have an iPad don't be redundant with an inferior device, the iPOD is better than the iPAD mini. Grab the Nexus 7 and begin your consumption.

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.. the display is also non-retina (I am sure apple did this to keep cost down) which equates to a less crisp display. /QUOTE]
At great risk of exposing my ignorance of the Apple ecosystem, I think Apple had a very good reason to keep resolution at 1024x768, matching the IPad 2 4:3 format. This is not as good for movies, but it maintains compatibility with existing Apps. Apple Apps don't scale, so they would have to be re-coded if the resolution changed. Retina display icons would just be too small in this format.
I am sure we have enough Apple agents here to correct me if I am wrong.
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Go with the Nexus 7.
The iPad Mini is more expensive and runs iOS! IOS maybe stable but you can't customize it like you can android. The apps on the nexus 7 don't look enlarged at all, the only app I have found that does is SpeedTest.net app.
If you do get a nexus 7, I would reccommend you install the paranoid android ROM as it fixes all of the nexus' bugs.
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What bugs? About to pick up a nexus an like to stick to just rooting my phone.
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I own an iPad 2 and a N7. I absolutely love the N7 due to its portability, it easily fits in my pocket and I can carry it everywhere. I know the iPad mini is smaller than its larger counterpart but it is still not pocketable. The N7 does have great specs but the major disappointment for me was the lack of quality tablet apps. I don't see the point of having a quad core processor if apps don't take advantage of it. Sure its great and everything but I would choose better apps over better specs. App Store > Google Play store.

Can't decide between new Nexus 7 and Note 8.0

I've owned a N7 2012 for about a year, and I have a buyer for my old one, so I'm looking at upgrading. I haven't used a stylus device in years, but I used to love them: precision text editing, sketches to supplement an explanation, and unambiguous link clicking in the browser.
I expect longevity from my devices, and my previous experience has been that the charging connector breaks first on every mobile device I've had. This gives the N7 the serious advantage with the Qi inductive charging.
OTOH, the Note's performance is more future-proof: a 96GB Note (thanks SD-card expansion) will stay useful longer with a 32GB N7, and the benchmarks also come out clearly in favour of the Note: (Slashgear Note 6900 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/quadrant_gnote8_attwtmk.jpg vs N7 5600 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...enshot_2013-07-25-13-17-52-google-nexus-7.jpg ).
But the performance doesn't count for all that much, since my main use for my current N7 has been reading: PDFs, e-books and websites. I use it mostly around the house, and my phone when I'm out and about.
Can anyone suggest something I haven't considered that may be relevant? The price isn't going to sway me much one way or the other.
Thanks

I prefer note 8 due to larger size and I won't mind carrying a slightly bigger one. Was coming from 7.7. I would have taken if it's nexus 8.
Happy user of note 8.
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I don't know what I can add except my reason for buying a Note 8.0--the pen. I bought my Note for school to replace everything in my bookbag--no more notebooks, no more laptop, no more text books. So far I'm very happy with my decision. I was also considering the new Nexus but because I wanted the ability to take notes, the lack of a wacom pen was off-putting. The Note was well worth the extra money for me.

I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.

logicrulez said:
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available

I had the nexus 7.2 for a week and a half, the 16Gb version and it had a very nice screen fast processor but returned it due to frequent reboots, apparently it only happens on the 16Gb version. Got the note 8 instead. Am very satisfied with it.
I'd recommend you get the Nexus 7.2 first use it for a week then return and get the Note 8, that way you can see the strength and weakness of both and then decide which one is more useful to you. I am glad I did that, the Nexus 7.2 was how to say this not to hurt anyones feelings -plain vanilla- which is not bad, but you can't really compare the two because of the S pen feature on the Note 8. The Note 8 screen is not bad at all, but the 7.2 beats it, and I find that I do use the S pen more often than I thought I would. Also I'm a long time Samsung user and I like their products. I gave the Nexus 7.2 a try but am more comfortable with the Note 8, also love the S pen, for that alone it was worth it to me.
So as I mentioned get one use it as is for a week or two then return it and get the other one. Test both, but in my opinion you can't really pin the two tablets against each other. They are both good just depends what you are going to use it for, if you're a big game player get the Nexus, if you going to use the tablet for other things get the Note 8
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hertsjoatmon said:
why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
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I've owned more than a few Samsung devices, I currently own a two SGS 3, AT&T and Sprint. Neither are on 4.2.2, which is why i'm on CM10.1.2. I'd be pretty happy with a TouchWiz 4.3, but I know Samsung is pretty lame at updates that's why I made that statement, if the Note does get the 4.2.2 update, that's great, but I don't think they will go past that.
Hopefully Samsung is doing an overhaul on TouchWiz all together, I may stick with Samsung devices, otherwise my next device will be a Nexus. I've given up hope for the skin based phones and updates.

It really comes down to how much you value the s-pen....i thought I'd get much more use out of it (i do a lot of handwritten note taking, but at meetings i typically type in notepad) and never did so I just put my Note8 up for sale because the extra $100 wasn't worth it because it was still faster/easier for me to jot something quick on a post it than to take out the spen, launch the note app, scribbe something, save it....
however when I was in school the ability to take down quick notes and write on-screen on pdfs/ppt was *very critical* and I loved my W7 tablet with ntrig (this is all pre-tablets so it just depends on your use case
With OTG usb, you can still use microsd on the Nexus7, althought it's a bit more work and takes up the charging port..not sure if the new N7 has that yet (you had to be rooted on the old N7 to use it)
screenwise, the new N7 quality is much better, but I find the slightly larger note 8 to actually be easier to read on and use

I'm close to making my final decision because I refuse to keep the Note 8.0 and the N7 (2013) that I currently have.
The N7 is super nice. The display keeps drawing me back over and over. I like the fact that I can watch Netflix on it and not accidentally press the back button like I tend to do on the Note 8.0. I love the crisp text in my ebooks. And who doesn't love stock?
The Note 8.0 is better from a productivity standpoint for me, and it's why it currently leads. Outside of holding it in landscape and pressing buttons accidentally, I actually prefer the feel of the Note 8.0 more than the new N7. The display isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe either. Sure if you have it side by side the N7, you'll see it, but in my opinion it looks real good.
Also a sidenote for comic book readers. I use Comixology, and I'm not a fan of the panel to panel view unless I'm forced to use it due to something being very small. It's easier for me to read comics on the Note 8.0 compared to the N7. Probably because of the extra inch of real estate.
Probably the reason I still go back and forth is because I know I can expect updates and a vibrant dev community on the N7, but probably not so much with the Note 8.0. Heck, I have the AT&T LTE variant, and I sadly can't even root that yet. Good luck with your decision.

I went ahead and ordered the 32GB Nexus 7.2. I figure I can always sell it for about what I paid for it if I decide not to keep it.
I got the previous Nexus 7 as a gift, but actually ended up selling it (and keeping the more lowly spec'd Tab 2 7" I already had) because the Nexus was just so flaky. Apparently it was a great device prior to 4.1, but I only got onboard after that. Plus the speakers were PATHETIC (unacceptable for a device that screams multimedia consumption.) I'm hoping those are better this go-round as I use mine for backgound music/video quite a bit.
There's pros to being on the bleeding edge of updates I guess. But I almost view it like you're being an unofficial beta tester. Samsung may not always have the latest official Android version on all its flagship devices, but all my experiences with them to-date have been outstanding. There's a reason (beyond just marketing) that they're the most dominant OEM in the Android world.

If the primary purpose is reading as OP has posted, I would suggest note 8 to be better choice.
My primary reason for buying note 8.0 was reading (PDF's as well as comics) and considering that almost 38 GB of my external 64 Gig card is occupied by books i would say i am more than pleased by my choice.
The extra screen size does matter here though both share similar 16:10 aspect ratio , which is quite ok,
another surprise feature, the reading mode that samsung built into this is amazing (though it might appear strange at first) but now I just can't imagine reading without that , it's easier on eyes,less stress and for me makes for much better concentration. add a good reader app (I absolutely love the free perfect viewer app for pdf and comics)
The secondary thing for me was the s-pen. since i have been using wacom tablets on pc since late 90's I found this quite adequate. My N-5100 costed me around $530 USD) which is surely definitely on the costlier side of things however I would still consider it worth that extra dough.
I also primarily use this at home and mine is still unrooted (haven't found a need or reason to root it yet).

Gotta decide what's your most important feature.
For me tablets can have two distinct purposes, media consumption device or productivity device. As a media consumption device there isn't much use to me for a tablet because honestly, most things are just more convenient to do on my phone since I always have it, and it has a data connection.
Now as a productivity device, there are a couple things the note 8 excels at. PDF and textbook portability/editing, handwritten notes, and remote desktop control. The spen takes this device to a higher level of productivity because there is no device with a comparable stylus. But for anything else like word document editing, media production, music/picture editing, tablets in general fall short because laptops/desktops are just better.
So if you want a media consumption device, the new Nexus 7 is probably better or even the iPad for that matter. But for productivity the spen will make up for the other shortcomings like lower screen pixel density, less frequent operating system updates, etc.

MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.

It took me ages to decide between the N7 and note 8, and I decided on the note 8. But now I realise, that as I'm going university next year, I'll probably need a laptop, and I'm confused all over again
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I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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TC93 said:
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.

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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Grogck said:
Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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I haven't had any complaints about the Note 8.0 speakers either.

xT4Z1N4TRx said:
How is it compared to 4.1?
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Maybe more smooth
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I own the original nexus 7...
I currently own an ipad 4 (so I'm used to looking at retina display), I've had the note 10.1, nexus 10, etc....
Honestly I think 8" is the sweet spot. I want to love thenew nexus 7 so bad but I feel like 7" is just a tad too small. The extra screen area from an 8" tablet seems sooo much larger and more usable when browsing websites. Am I crazy? I feel like I keep reading about screen clarity vs spen vs whatever ... but to me the real battle is do you prefer 7" vs 8" - I'm probably going to get both and then return the one I dont' like. As I said, I'm used to the retina screen as well as the beautiful screen on my htc one; however just playing around with the note in the store, the screen honestly isn't that bad and colors are quite quite good.
That said, the nexus 7 screen is by far superior BUT I still think the larger size provides so much better screen real estate and thus ease of use.
Anyone not get the nexus 7 simply because they don't like a 7" tablet?

Anyone try a nexus 7 2013 before going to this device?

Just wondering if you thought it was a better jump up in features, battery, and performance wise? No regrets or regrets?

I used both the c 2013 nexus 7 and the nexus 10, and for my needs as a college student, the note 2014 is the best for me, due to the s-pen, the beautiful screen, and the great performance and battery.
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I used both the c 2013 nexus 7 and the nexus 10, and for my needs as a college student, the note 2014 is the best for me, due to the s-pen, the beautiful screen, and the great performance and battery.
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What are your main app uses for this spen? I mean does it have to be a screenshot in order to use the spen? I've never really used it even when I had a galaxy note.

I use it in s-note, lecturenotes, and various other drawing and writing apps, as wells as for navigating the ui on occasion. It's also handy for playing games like angry birds for finer control
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I did. I plan to keep the note at home, or away when I need to take notes, etc. I'll take the Nexus with me when I'm away and just needing it for reading or a game or two.
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I said this in another thread, but I'll say it here, too: I hate 7" tablets with a passion. Like, I legitimately hate that they exist and take resources away from making 10" tablets better.
If you have a decent smartphone, you have a small portable tablet of sorts already that has pretty much the same usage style as a 7" tablet, just with a touch extra space. You'll probably be using it in portrait most of the time and there isn't enough real estate to do any real work on it. Meanwhile, a 10" has plenty of screen room to multi-window and actually be productive.
I used the new Nexus 7. If I knew someone who didn't have a good phone and was on a budget, I'd totally recommend it. But if you have a decent android device already, skip over the semi-phone and go for the big tab. I played around with a bunch at Best Buy and the Note 2014 was the best bar-none. Not a contest.

I have the Nexus 7 FHD as well but i'm thinking of selling it. I do like it as a little gaming system as an e-reader etc.... But I told myself a few tablets ago if I upgrade the previous one has to go. I was once backlogged with 4 tablets... I really like tablets opposed to laptops. I don't use these devices for work only for pleasure, although I may incorporate the Note 10.1 into my life more once I can buy a case. Or Amazon ships it....

I personally feel that the Nexus 7 is too small and has a weirdly shaped bezel that makes it too long. 7" is ok for reading but the bezel is shaped oddly. LCD light is also bad for eye strain and keeps you up late at night versus the more natural light of a kindle paperwhite.
7" is too small for productivity IMO. It's a good device for media (videos and light reading): basically all the things you would normally do on a phone, but almost worthless for work. I think 8" is far better as a portable productivity form factor. As such I might supplement my devices with the new Ipad Mini Retina that comes out just so that I have the best of all the app stores.

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I said this in another thread, but I'll say it here, too: I hate 7" tablets with a passion. Like, I legitimately hate that they exist and take resources away from making 10" tablets better.
If you have a decent smartphone, you have a small portable tablet of sorts already that has pretty much the same usage style as a 7" tablet, just with a touch extra space. You'll probably be using it in portrait most of the time and there isn't enough real estate to do any real work on it. Meanwhile, a 10" has plenty of screen room to multi-window and actually be productive.
I used the new Nexus 7. If I knew someone who didn't have a good phone and was on a budget, I'd totally recommend it. But if you have a decent android device already, skip over the semi-phone and go for the big tab. I played around with a bunch at Best Buy and the Note 2014 was the best bar-none. Not a contest.
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Agree 100%. I see no good everyday use for the 7" tablets. Screen is too small for a GOOD web experience, and way too small for notes / productivity. The only thing I see useful with a 7" tablet is reading, and for that I much prefer a Kindle Paperwhite. The screen is fantastic for reading, and the battery life is obviously crazy.

SomeGuyDude said:
I said this in another thread, but I'll say it here, too: I hate 7" tablets with a passion. Like, I legitimately hate that they exist and take resources away from making 10" tablets better.
If you have a decent smartphone, you have a small portable tablet of sorts already that has pretty much the same usage style as a 7" tablet, just with a touch extra space. You'll probably be using it in portrait most of the time and there isn't enough real estate to do any real work on it. Meanwhile, a 10" has plenty of screen room to multi-window and actually be productive.
I used the new Nexus 7. If I knew someone who didn't have a good phone and was on a budget, I'd totally recommend it. But if you have a decent android device already, skip over the semi-phone and go for the big tab. I played around with a bunch at Best Buy and the Note 2014 was the best bar-none. Not a contest.
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absolutely agree.