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So today I tried to use the S-pen to write in landscape mode and it is consistently 2-3mm below or in front of the tip. Port
This is ridiculous.
I have also tried using other Galaxy Note demo units in CPW and observe the same thing.
As a long time user of some recent Tablet PCs hp tm2, acer1820p, thinkpad x201t, thinkpad x220t, 3 of which use the same Wacom technology as in the note, I find the omission of a calibration utility absolutely crazy.
The line should fall exactly under the tip - period.
This is the most natural way to write. That is how a normal pen works and how Tablet PCs with Wacom technology work.
Anything other than that is unnatural.
We should not having to adjust to the S-pen.
The S-pen should adjust to us the owners of the device.
This now makes the S-Pen useless to me as it find it impossible to write with this thing...
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ChodTheWacko said:
Note the GNote is sensitive to stylus angle as well as the handedness pen setting. The 'natural' idea of putting the note on a table and drawing at a 90 angle is something that actually causes the note to freak out.
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Just noticed this bit of info in another thread...
I wonder if it's possible to disable this feature as I want to write with the note on a flat surface.
It changes based on your dominant writing hand. I can write notes for a long period of time very neatly, maybe your device is defective?
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I also have the same problem.
It really needs a calibration utility, but with the SDK that Samsung released, little chance to accomplish this.
xAnimal5 said:
It changes based on your dominant writing hand. I can write notes for a long period of time very neatly, maybe your device is defective?
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No it's not - I tested with other demo units to be sure.
True, and I feel the deviation away from the tip is not even constant... However, I managed to write quite a bit without issues if I do not look at the tip while writing. Also you can choose a particular point on the screen where you can tap the stylus to remember where exactly the point falls...
Hope Samsung fixes this quickly...
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Calm down, the spen is far from being unusable, it works nice, just make sure the accelerometer kicks in when you change the screen orientation so the phone is aware of it on a flat surface, otherwise yes, it will be off by a margin.
Its an extra step to do and it could be better for sure but it works
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I have also noticed that the S pen needs some calibration.
My S pen is also out of line with the display.
Strangely this only occurs when creating a note or when drawing.
Changing the settings from right to left handed does not solve my problem, but just makes it worse.
As I have understood the drawing line should start within one mm next to the S-pen (on the left or the right side depending on the settings).
Visually it should be like this (the dot is the S pen on the screen. The R is the place where the drawing line should start for right hand settings. The L is the same as the R, but for left hand settings)
R ● L
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My S pen does this... very annoying.
..R L
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.......When i use the S pen on the keyboard to type or swype the dot is perfectly calibrated.
Holy Crap, just noticed that it is exactly the same when typing or swyping….. aaargh it gets more annoying every time because I aware of it now….
Then that means its the smemo...
Hopefully with the sdk out, someones gonna make a better alternative.
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my first meeting with note was today and spen was useless. it is good for taking small notes and sketching small graphs but thats all. spen needs calibration needs better hand writing recognition and a different app for meetings. until they are made spen is only for making fun pictures and share them on social network or taking small notes.
Holding angle
I noticed that if you hold the pen at 90 degrees the tip is indeed 2mm below or to the right of writing.
However! I f you hold it at 60-70 degress - like you would normally do when writing (sllightly tilted towards you and also tilted to the right) - the tip it's perfectly aligned with the writing. Try this.
I've done some experimenting, and from what I can gather, the sensor (or rather capacitive element) is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the capacitive element, based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. I've made and attached an illustration showing how it works for right handed setup.
I have been using the Galaxy Note for 2 weeks, initially I have no s-pen accuracy problem. It's only these few days I realised that the s-pen is writing 2-3mm away from the point I'm writing.
Googled a lot of forums, and seems like no one is providing an effective solution. So I did a restart on my Galaxy Note, and now it is back to normal.
Hope my contribution helps. Sure hope you enjoy your Galaxy Note, because I enjoyed mine.
maxh said:
I've done some experimenting, and from what I can gather, the sensor (or rather capacitive element) is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the capacitive element, based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. I've made and attached an illustration showing how it works for right handed setup.
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You're right, and thank you for writing this.
This makes for a pretty annoying offset when working with the pen in any orientation other than -45° relative to the horizon.
What if I feel more comfortable working at +45°? I hope that now that the S-Pen SDK is available a calibration utility will be made.
I found a quirk on my Note (on Cassie's lite rom 2.2) that fixed all calibration issues for me.
I noticed that when I was writing, it consistantly showed up to the right of the pen nib, and it went even further right when I changed the handedness setting. On a whim, I turned my note to landscape to write and it seemed to align perfectly.
Thinking about it a bit, I re-enabled auto-rotation and EVERYTHING was fixed. Seems like one of the issues is that locking rotation fixes screen in portrait, but touchscreen layer locks in orientation that you deactivated rotation in.
tl;dr - reenable autorotation (then lock in desired orientation if necessary) to fix some if not all s-pen calibration issues
@IcyAirs: I can confirm that, getting to it independently on your post.
I take it you guys have checked the Pen settings ~ Settings/Pen Settings/Dominant Hand.
By Jove you're right !
This worked for me.Mindboggling.
( ROMOW V2 by mowmo )
IcyAirs said:
I found a quirk on my Note (on Cassie's lite rom 2.2) that fixed all calibration issues for me.
I noticed that when I was writing, it consistantly showed up to the right of the pen nib, and it went even further right when I changed the handedness setting. On a whim, I turned my note to landscape to write and it seemed to align perfectly.
Thinking about it a bit, I re-enabled auto-rotation and EVERYTHING was fixed. Seems like one of the issues is that locking rotation fixes screen in portrait, but touchscreen layer locks in orientation that you deactivated rotation in.
tl;dr - reenable autorotation (then lock in desired orientation if necessary) to fix some if not all s-pen calibration issues
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In my case, restarting the system usually solves the problem.
Just found out how to auto calibrate the S Pen. It works for me.
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-calibrate-galaxy-note-s-pen.html
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I am running Android Ion and have calibrated the screen by touching the two little red dots. My problem is that when i touch, like when i am texting or dialing, i feel like i am touching a 2 inch area because some times if i hit one thing it registers something an inch away.
Is it too sensitive?
I should add i did not have this problem with WinMo running NFS V12
try restoring defaults in screen calibrate
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I am running Android Ion and have calibrated the screen by touching the two little red dots. My problem is that when i touch, like when i am texting or dialing, i feel like i am touching a 2 inch area because some times if i hit one thing it registers something an inch away.
Is it too sensitive?
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Are you saving after you calibrate?
I came here the other night looking for the answer to the exact same question -- on first boot of android, I could run the calibration utility, and it would change the calibration, but I could not get it to approach correctness. The entire right side of the screen was about .5-1cm off (touch 's' on the keyboard, and it registers 'a'... or vice versa; I don't remember).
Someone suggested that on first boot, this was a problem, but it seemed resolved on subsequent boots. I shut down, started again, calibrated (and then hit menu [aka winmo power] -> save), and now it works much better. Still not perfect, but within the range of poorly calibrated (couple mm on the vertical axis), not broken calibration mechanism.
I have re-booted several times. It has not gotten better. Texting is borderline impossible without the stylus. ARGHHH
There is another calibration tool, where you use the qwerty keyboard to type out the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. It makes a MASSIVE difference and makes the keyboard as good as a winmo equivalent minus the smaller buttons.
Hmm, where does one find this
mikeschevelle said:
Hmm, where does one find this
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Open the keyboard hit the settings button ,text input, then go down to calibration tool. Note 5his for hero. Specifically the HTC IME
Sweet, we'll see if that fixes it. Thanks guys.
Hi everyone.
I've copied my post from Lenovo forum to show you that Pen Only mode at OS level is very necessary for people who write with their pen on Thinkpad .
and now, Since the root is achieved, I want to know that is there any chance for a developer to do such tweak ?
Post from Lenovo's Forum :
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manuelcalavera wrote:
Hello Everyone, this is a proof that why we need a Pen Only mode for the whole system . yes, since our tablet has digitizer, there should be an option to work with the tablet with just our pen . An option to disable the touch layer entirely so we can write like a human being ! ( apart from hitting the bars and activate menus )
just download the video that shows everything :
http://www.mediafire.com/?snoh86t9drdiw8w
As you can see, writing is a hard thing to do without any cloth under my hand or gloves on .As I demonstrated, each time this problem occurs, It will be gone entirely by puting something under my palm . and it wont happen 99 percents when I write completely on a cloth.
To Development Team : Please fix this problem, Pen is the only advantage of your product .
pressing and holding one of the physical keys would be a nice choice for activate/deactivate it . so people who has not pen, could deal with it .
I've gathered some other post related to this matter :
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I write all of my university courses in TPT and Ive been examining this issue every day. though this problem does not depend on the palm entirely , inking failure lowers to a really small percentage when you do not put your palm on the screen . for example I want to write PEN in a random coordinate of screen in a random part of random sentence . I stroke my pen down and move my hand to write the PEN down . it writes "P" and "N" very good but instead of "E", I can see nothing or in the best condition it writes only a dot --> "P. N" or "P N" Even though that IS a problem, It wouldnt if I could correct it. unfortunatley that certain area will be deactivate for a random amount of time . you can not write ANYTHING in that area during that time. not a single line . it will work nicely if you write a line from outside of that unspecific area into that area ! this shows theres no problem of inking in that position . and the funny thing is someother day this area had no problem and maybe tomorrow will be ok too even next page will be ok . imagin how hard it would be that random area, in a complex formula ! you will lose important amount of time to deal with tha mess. now palm thing comes in the story from this sequence; remember that unknown duration of time that you could not ink anything in that area ? well, if you put a cloth under your palm, it works so much better . Lenovo, too many people are losing trace of notes, too many disappointments just for this . how hard is it for your team to roll an update to add an option for turning the touch input off ? holding harware rotation key would be awesome choice
Rizzlomaniac wrote:
I have the same problem with my Thinkpad Tablet. It doesn't matter which app I use. I don't use any screen protector. As I have been enjoying the comfort of a stylus on a windows tablet before and was looking forward to move away from Microsoft with this tablet, I'm really disappointed to find, that the stylus I not usefull at all beeing that unresponsive. So please fix this issue as fast as possible or I will have to switch back to windows again!
juanayala85 wrote:
I was taking notes during a seminar last week and noticed that on the bundled Notes App, there were certain areas of the screen (middle left) where the pen just wouldnt respond at times. I would try a few times and then it would finally take the input, wondering if anyone else is having similar issues. I downloaded the WritePad application and it seems to be better there, also downladed Quill and saw that it was having similar issues so I'm wondering if its app related or hardware related. I'd love for the pen to start inking immediately as I start drawing, not start well after the stroke has begun.
Also note I have installed the Military Shield on the ThinkPad so not sure if this might have something to do with it also.
dgannon wrote:
I've seen the same thing (for me - a right hander - it normally shows up on the middle right side of the screen). To me it seems like the palm rejection in the note app is the problem.
I was able to get around this by placing a small cloth (the one I use for wiping the screen) under the heel of my hand while writing... since it is a capacitive screen, the cloth hides the palm and seems to make the pen behave better.
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I'm not sure if I have the same problem, but is it when you keep writing and suddenly, there are moments when nothing happens when you tap the pen, sometimes at a specific region? Over the past week or so, I've used the Writepad application for about 4 hours a day or so and what happens is, a while after writing, a region starts being a bit unresponsive. Either I keep tapping random buttons on the side or I try to make a stroke outside that region, then try to immediately write in the region I'm actually trying to write in. Locking the tablet, then unlocking it fixes the problem, but it's still annoying as it starts back up again in 10 minutes or some random time later.
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I agree. I am an artist and the dual screen sensor does get in the way of my art. I can manage, but would highly appreciate if it were able to switch on and off the compacitive touch function on demand.
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I dont see any actual development here
They announced that it will be built in in OTA3
It is on the Lenovo website - a post by bnsf
Just wondering if anyone else is have this problem. My s pen starts writing from about half an inch from the screen which make sit hard to to write a neat note. A while back i downloaded a smemo.apk for 240 dpi and that when it seem to start doing it I have tried a full flash of stock rom but still doing it.
It happened to me too, Samsung said that it's because some S-pens have trouble on its sensor. You can ask Samsung to change S-pen for you, change until the problem is gone xD. That's what i do with mine.
Ok i thought it might be somethimg like that I ordered one from ebay the other day. thanks
try disabling auto rotation..
and choose again which dominant hand in pen setting..
if you used magnet case it would affect the s pen sensor too..
Your pen is bad, a few of these threads have poped up. With a working pen you can take your fingernail and push in the tip and it will work like yours is, from far, yours is just stuck in.
You can try and take it apart (there is a post around here with instructions) and reset the tip in the rubber grommet it sits in if returning it is a issue.
Touch Screen Tune
I use Touch Screen Tune (for Galaxy note) to fine tune the pen.
And it became much better.
cyanide1973 said:
Just wondering if anyone else is have this problem. My s pen starts writing from about half an inch from the screen which make sit hard to to write a neat note. A while back i downloaded a smemo.apk for 240 dpi and that when it seem to start doing it I have tried a full flash of stock rom but still doing it.
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The tip of your s-pen is pushed in and stuck, which makes the pen think you are pushing against the Note. Not sure how to get it unstuck, but that's definitely the issue. It's happened to a couple of people.
- Frank
I also have the same problem..some guy posted a video on youtube as well..its a faulty spen...
Hi All.
Funny enough i have similar issue. My pen from time to time is oversensitive. I have been playing with it to check when and how does it happens. And i discovered that my spen has an allergy on me. I mean its me or my static charge is affecting it. Whenever i had such an issue i had to touch somethin metal or somebody to discharge myself. Or just put phone on the table. Whenever i broke circuit (i havent touch phone with both hands) or i disperse my charge spen started working again.
If you have such an issue try this out or even pass the phone to somebody else to check if the issue still stays with somebody else. I have been in touch with Samsung and they offered me a new spen so when it arrives i will check this out.
I got the same problem yesterday, i bring my note to SC and the customer service just laugh on me and told me may be my note is the new note 2 because it can hover
Anyway they replace it free of charge, thanks samsung
Oversensitive SPen means that a coil broke inside your pen, whice alterates the internal capacitance. Must be careful when carrying your pen, avoid drop it to the ground and so on...
I just noticed the s pen tip and floating pointer on screen are always off by 2mm. This occurred on both my ATT and T-mobile note 3 so it is not an isolated case. Anyone else experienced this issue? What is your fix?
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Same problem here, no fix yet
onyxogen said:
Same problem here, no fix yet
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Thank you for confirming this. I wonder why they don't have a digitizer calibration feature in setting like Windows?
From a technology point of view, due to the way the S Pen works, it should not require calibration
In laymen's terms, think of capacitive touchscreens, which do not require calibration, the first reason is because capacitive touch sensors always have auto calibration, the second reason is that your screen is divided into multiple rows and columns, so even if a measurement is wrong by 10%, that 10% over a small area is not really noticeable
With the old resistive touchscreen technology, calibration is required, because the screen is one gigantic resistor and 10% error in measurement means a error that is as big as 10% of your screen size. Also resistive touchscreens are constructed with two layers and these layers get bent, and wear out over time.
The S Pen technology is elecromagnetic, and it also sort of uses multiple rows and columns ("Under the tablet's surface (or LCD in the case of the Cintiq) is a printed circuit board with a grid of multiple send/receive coils and a magnetic reflector attached behind the grid array."), thus, it is similar to capacitive touchscreens in the sense that measurement errors are usually unnoticeable by the user.
Thus why nobody implemented calibration
If I were you, I'd exchange the phone for a new one if possible.
I have the feeling this is an issue with newer builds of touchwiz. On the note 8 once it was updated to 4.2.2 the pen was accuracy became offset. The only fix to it as of now is running a custom kernel that fixed the accuracy. Hopefully we get a similar fix soon from xda and of course an official fix from Samsung.
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I think this is a design feature. If you change it to left handed operation the pointer will be 2mm off to the right instead of the left. I recall this being so you can see the dot instead of being obscured by your own hand and pen. This was the same on my Note 2.
This should only apply to the pointer though, not to an actual touch.
EDIT: THIS WAS SO ON MY NOTE 2, but upon checking it is not so on my NOTE 3. My pen dot lines up perfectly.
I know this is an old thread, but there are always new owners to an old device.
If you have an SGH-I467 (AT&T) version with 4.4.2, the right/left hand dominant switch is not available. The workaround would be turning your tablet upside down with the auto rotate enabled so that your app would be right side up again. What you achieve here is moving the pointer from under your nib, if you are right handed, to the other side where you can see it so that you know where to drop down your pen to start drawing.
>I know this is an old thread, but there are always new owners to an old device.
If you have an SGH-I467 (AT&T).
But this is not the forum for that model .
Hey guys, I just picked up my Tegra Note and I'm enjoying it, but in testing out the potential and limitations of the DirectStylus, I came across a problem and I want to find out if it's just my problem, or if it's reproducible with all Tegra Notes with the latest system updates.
Basically, I'm using the stylus, and stylus only mode is activated. This works pretty well and ignores most/all inputs from anything except the tip of the stylus.
However, I have noticed that if I slide my finger onto the screen from the outer edge/bevel, it will often (nearly 100% of the time) register this as a touch. For an example, if I tap the home button with my finger nothing happens, however if I drag my finger from just below the screen onto the home button, it will press. Likewise I cannot scroll through home screens by normally swiping my finger, but if I swipe from off screen on the left or right, it will register. Bringing down the notification area with a finger swipe, etc, all work as well when naturally this should only be possible with the stylus.
The main problem with this is when writing/drawing with my hand resting on the edge of the device. If my palm is entirely off the screen it is fine. If my palm is entirely on the screen then stylus only works, too. However, if in the process of writing my hand slides from the side onto the screen, suddenly the stylus looses focus and I'm drawing lines with my palm.
I hope I have explained this issue correctly, and I wondered if this was a known problem? If there are any solutions? Have I messed up and set an option somewhere I shouldn't have? Should I get it replaced? Sorry for all the questions! :laugh:
Oh and it's not rooted or anything. Just stock, updated to the latest system version through the system updates.
Thanks, hope you can help!
I get a similar issue at the bottom left of the screen sometimes. It only seems to effect the bottom left but in both orientations so that rules out a hardware issue. Doing a quick lock and unlock seems to fix it for me and it functions fine until next time I turn on stylus mode. Seems hit and miss with no real way to replicate it.
It didn't seem to do it before ota 2.3 so I predict a hotfix for the issue. Its a minor issue, the battery life on 4.4.2 isn't however, 4-5hrs with lite use is pretty rubbish. I suspect that's an issue with the power saving features (I think it's stuck on Max performance all the time).
Would be nice if they fix the SD write issue but Google dictate that I think.
Mine was certainly a lot worse than that - persistent on all four edges of the screen and there is no way to stop it. 60-80% of the time it was manageable, but consistently reproducible, other times it was far worse and could only manage dots and dashes when I tried to write anything while resting my palm on the screen. It also developed a 'blind spot' problem I've noticed reported on a couple of forums - a spot where the stlus simply refused to draw - so I grew more concerned that I had a problem with the actual hardware. So, I took it into the store I bought it from, and they're going to replace it for me.
Hopefully I won't have a problem with the replacement one, because I absolutely love the tablet!
I've had similar problems... just remember, all of the stylus functionality is governed by software; the screen on this is simply a regular capacitive screen that's also capable of detecting the size and shape of what's touching it, and the rest is calculated by software. It's a neat idea, but in practice it hasn't held up as well as Nvidia would've liked us to believe. Now that I've had a Galaxy Note 2 for a couple months, I have to say that the active stylus experience blows the TN7 away, but then again it's a much more expensive technology to implement. I almost always used a pencil with my TN7 while it was my day-to-day work buddy since I found the stylus to be too sticky and hard to write with... I also found several of the issues I was having weren't as bad while using a pencil, so maybe you could give that a try. Also, remember that if the screen is dirty that it will affect the stylus's performance as the screen is so sensitive that even a little moisture could register as a touch on the screen.
I received my replacement tablet today, and it is a lot better than the one I previously had. While the problem is still there, it is far, FAR better than before. Now it seems to be a minor nuisance, rather than a consistently reproducible problem. On top of that it has a much more vibrant screen - less yellow and washed out - and no 'dead zones' when trying to write with the stylus. So while I am certain software has an impact on performance, there must have been something weird going on inside the hardware of my previous device, too.
Considering the price, the fact that others have had similar issues, and how much I like about everything else - I'm very happy with my new TN7 now!
Have same problem .... When i swipe from left or right side of the screen it detects stylus nd do all the things.... Dont knw wat to do amazon is not replacing too the tablet..!
Same problem, I don't usually mind it other when I'm using an app like sketchbook pro, it becomes really annoying.
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