I just noticed the s pen tip and floating pointer on screen are always off by 2mm. This occurred on both my ATT and T-mobile note 3 so it is not an isolated case. Anyone else experienced this issue? What is your fix?
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Same problem here, no fix yet
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Same problem here, no fix yet
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Thank you for confirming this. I wonder why they don't have a digitizer calibration feature in setting like Windows?
From a technology point of view, due to the way the S Pen works, it should not require calibration
In laymen's terms, think of capacitive touchscreens, which do not require calibration, the first reason is because capacitive touch sensors always have auto calibration, the second reason is that your screen is divided into multiple rows and columns, so even if a measurement is wrong by 10%, that 10% over a small area is not really noticeable
With the old resistive touchscreen technology, calibration is required, because the screen is one gigantic resistor and 10% error in measurement means a error that is as big as 10% of your screen size. Also resistive touchscreens are constructed with two layers and these layers get bent, and wear out over time.
The S Pen technology is elecromagnetic, and it also sort of uses multiple rows and columns ("Under the tablet's surface (or LCD in the case of the Cintiq) is a printed circuit board with a grid of multiple send/receive coils and a magnetic reflector attached behind the grid array."), thus, it is similar to capacitive touchscreens in the sense that measurement errors are usually unnoticeable by the user.
Thus why nobody implemented calibration
If I were you, I'd exchange the phone for a new one if possible.
I have the feeling this is an issue with newer builds of touchwiz. On the note 8 once it was updated to 4.2.2 the pen was accuracy became offset. The only fix to it as of now is running a custom kernel that fixed the accuracy. Hopefully we get a similar fix soon from xda and of course an official fix from Samsung.
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I think this is a design feature. If you change it to left handed operation the pointer will be 2mm off to the right instead of the left. I recall this being so you can see the dot instead of being obscured by your own hand and pen. This was the same on my Note 2.
This should only apply to the pointer though, not to an actual touch.
EDIT: THIS WAS SO ON MY NOTE 2, but upon checking it is not so on my NOTE 3. My pen dot lines up perfectly.
I know this is an old thread, but there are always new owners to an old device.
If you have an SGH-I467 (AT&T) version with 4.4.2, the right/left hand dominant switch is not available. The workaround would be turning your tablet upside down with the auto rotate enabled so that your app would be right side up again. What you achieve here is moving the pointer from under your nib, if you are right handed, to the other side where you can see it so that you know where to drop down your pen to start drawing.
>I know this is an old thread, but there are always new owners to an old device.
If you have an SGH-I467 (AT&T).
But this is not the forum for that model .
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So today I tried to use the S-pen to write in landscape mode and it is consistently 2-3mm below or in front of the tip. Port
This is ridiculous.
I have also tried using other Galaxy Note demo units in CPW and observe the same thing.
As a long time user of some recent Tablet PCs hp tm2, acer1820p, thinkpad x201t, thinkpad x220t, 3 of which use the same Wacom technology as in the note, I find the omission of a calibration utility absolutely crazy.
The line should fall exactly under the tip - period.
This is the most natural way to write. That is how a normal pen works and how Tablet PCs with Wacom technology work.
Anything other than that is unnatural.
We should not having to adjust to the S-pen.
The S-pen should adjust to us the owners of the device.
This now makes the S-Pen useless to me as it find it impossible to write with this thing...
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Note the GNote is sensitive to stylus angle as well as the handedness pen setting. The 'natural' idea of putting the note on a table and drawing at a 90 angle is something that actually causes the note to freak out.
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Just noticed this bit of info in another thread...
I wonder if it's possible to disable this feature as I want to write with the note on a flat surface.
It changes based on your dominant writing hand. I can write notes for a long period of time very neatly, maybe your device is defective?
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I also have the same problem.
It really needs a calibration utility, but with the SDK that Samsung released, little chance to accomplish this.
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It changes based on your dominant writing hand. I can write notes for a long period of time very neatly, maybe your device is defective?
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No it's not - I tested with other demo units to be sure.
True, and I feel the deviation away from the tip is not even constant... However, I managed to write quite a bit without issues if I do not look at the tip while writing. Also you can choose a particular point on the screen where you can tap the stylus to remember where exactly the point falls...
Hope Samsung fixes this quickly...
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Calm down, the spen is far from being unusable, it works nice, just make sure the accelerometer kicks in when you change the screen orientation so the phone is aware of it on a flat surface, otherwise yes, it will be off by a margin.
Its an extra step to do and it could be better for sure but it works
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I have also noticed that the S pen needs some calibration.
My S pen is also out of line with the display.
Strangely this only occurs when creating a note or when drawing.
Changing the settings from right to left handed does not solve my problem, but just makes it worse.
As I have understood the drawing line should start within one mm next to the S-pen (on the left or the right side depending on the settings).
Visually it should be like this (the dot is the S pen on the screen. The R is the place where the drawing line should start for right hand settings. The L is the same as the R, but for left hand settings)
R ● L
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My S pen does this... very annoying.
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.......When i use the S pen on the keyboard to type or swype the dot is perfectly calibrated.
Holy Crap, just noticed that it is exactly the same when typing or swyping….. aaargh it gets more annoying every time because I aware of it now….
Then that means its the smemo...
Hopefully with the sdk out, someones gonna make a better alternative.
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my first meeting with note was today and spen was useless. it is good for taking small notes and sketching small graphs but thats all. spen needs calibration needs better hand writing recognition and a different app for meetings. until they are made spen is only for making fun pictures and share them on social network or taking small notes.
Holding angle
I noticed that if you hold the pen at 90 degrees the tip is indeed 2mm below or to the right of writing.
However! I f you hold it at 60-70 degress - like you would normally do when writing (sllightly tilted towards you and also tilted to the right) - the tip it's perfectly aligned with the writing. Try this.
I've done some experimenting, and from what I can gather, the sensor (or rather capacitive element) is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the capacitive element, based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. I've made and attached an illustration showing how it works for right handed setup.
I have been using the Galaxy Note for 2 weeks, initially I have no s-pen accuracy problem. It's only these few days I realised that the s-pen is writing 2-3mm away from the point I'm writing.
Googled a lot of forums, and seems like no one is providing an effective solution. So I did a restart on my Galaxy Note, and now it is back to normal.
Hope my contribution helps. Sure hope you enjoy your Galaxy Note, because I enjoyed mine.
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I've done some experimenting, and from what I can gather, the sensor (or rather capacitive element) is not at the tip, but back some. The device guesses at where the tip must be compared to the location of the capacitive element, based on right/left handedness, and the typical position/angle people hold the stylus at. I've made and attached an illustration showing how it works for right handed setup.
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You're right, and thank you for writing this.
This makes for a pretty annoying offset when working with the pen in any orientation other than -45° relative to the horizon.
What if I feel more comfortable working at +45°? I hope that now that the S-Pen SDK is available a calibration utility will be made.
I found a quirk on my Note (on Cassie's lite rom 2.2) that fixed all calibration issues for me.
I noticed that when I was writing, it consistantly showed up to the right of the pen nib, and it went even further right when I changed the handedness setting. On a whim, I turned my note to landscape to write and it seemed to align perfectly.
Thinking about it a bit, I re-enabled auto-rotation and EVERYTHING was fixed. Seems like one of the issues is that locking rotation fixes screen in portrait, but touchscreen layer locks in orientation that you deactivated rotation in.
tl;dr - reenable autorotation (then lock in desired orientation if necessary) to fix some if not all s-pen calibration issues
@IcyAirs: I can confirm that, getting to it independently on your post.
I take it you guys have checked the Pen settings ~ Settings/Pen Settings/Dominant Hand.
By Jove you're right !
This worked for me.Mindboggling.
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IcyAirs said:
I found a quirk on my Note (on Cassie's lite rom 2.2) that fixed all calibration issues for me.
I noticed that when I was writing, it consistantly showed up to the right of the pen nib, and it went even further right when I changed the handedness setting. On a whim, I turned my note to landscape to write and it seemed to align perfectly.
Thinking about it a bit, I re-enabled auto-rotation and EVERYTHING was fixed. Seems like one of the issues is that locking rotation fixes screen in portrait, but touchscreen layer locks in orientation that you deactivated rotation in.
tl;dr - reenable autorotation (then lock in desired orientation if necessary) to fix some if not all s-pen calibration issues
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In my case, restarting the system usually solves the problem.
Just found out how to auto calibrate the S Pen. It works for me.
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-calibrate-galaxy-note-s-pen.html
Just wondering if anyone else is have this problem. My s pen starts writing from about half an inch from the screen which make sit hard to to write a neat note. A while back i downloaded a smemo.apk for 240 dpi and that when it seem to start doing it I have tried a full flash of stock rom but still doing it.
It happened to me too, Samsung said that it's because some S-pens have trouble on its sensor. You can ask Samsung to change S-pen for you, change until the problem is gone xD. That's what i do with mine.
Ok i thought it might be somethimg like that I ordered one from ebay the other day. thanks
try disabling auto rotation..
and choose again which dominant hand in pen setting..
if you used magnet case it would affect the s pen sensor too..
Your pen is bad, a few of these threads have poped up. With a working pen you can take your fingernail and push in the tip and it will work like yours is, from far, yours is just stuck in.
You can try and take it apart (there is a post around here with instructions) and reset the tip in the rubber grommet it sits in if returning it is a issue.
Touch Screen Tune
I use Touch Screen Tune (for Galaxy note) to fine tune the pen.
And it became much better.
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Just wondering if anyone else is have this problem. My s pen starts writing from about half an inch from the screen which make sit hard to to write a neat note. A while back i downloaded a smemo.apk for 240 dpi and that when it seem to start doing it I have tried a full flash of stock rom but still doing it.
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The tip of your s-pen is pushed in and stuck, which makes the pen think you are pushing against the Note. Not sure how to get it unstuck, but that's definitely the issue. It's happened to a couple of people.
- Frank
I also have the same problem..some guy posted a video on youtube as well..its a faulty spen...
Hi All.
Funny enough i have similar issue. My pen from time to time is oversensitive. I have been playing with it to check when and how does it happens. And i discovered that my spen has an allergy on me. I mean its me or my static charge is affecting it. Whenever i had such an issue i had to touch somethin metal or somebody to discharge myself. Or just put phone on the table. Whenever i broke circuit (i havent touch phone with both hands) or i disperse my charge spen started working again.
If you have such an issue try this out or even pass the phone to somebody else to check if the issue still stays with somebody else. I have been in touch with Samsung and they offered me a new spen so when it arrives i will check this out.
I got the same problem yesterday, i bring my note to SC and the customer service just laugh on me and told me may be my note is the new note 2 because it can hover
Anyway they replace it free of charge, thanks samsung
Oversensitive SPen means that a coil broke inside your pen, whice alterates the internal capacitance. Must be careful when carrying your pen, avoid drop it to the ground and so on...
Update April 1st 2014: Many owners of a Note 3 these last few months have reported that their updated firmware does not suffer any multitouch issues (anymore). A few people have reported that newer firmware has re-introduced multitouch issues, so I'm still calling it "Mostly fixed". I will update the opening post if this status changes.
Below text is still phrased like the problem is "current" in many Note 3's. Will update that part soon.
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Hi while checking my new model Nexus 7 for (minor) multitouch problems with the apps "MultiTouch Test" and "MultiTouch Tester" I also tried these on my Note 3. Here I discovered that fingers/touches kept disappearing even with only 3 or 4 fingers on my European Note 3. Just moving the fingers about made 1 or more touches disappear. Since then I discovered the problem is much more severe, and can happen with only 2 fingers on the screen, making it far more likely it will disrupt normal phone usage.
If you're interested if your Note 3 has this problem, for warranty sake or otherwise, you can either follow the written steps below or try to emulate the videos.
3RD UPDATE:
A procedure to check whether you have the multitouch defect: (UPDATED on October 12th)
1. Download and run a multitouch testing app of good reputation (I tried both MultiTouch Test and MultiTouch Tester).
2. Put 2 (or more) fingers on the screen of your Note 3 in a horizontal line in landscape mode. You can also use Portrait mode with 2 fingers (shown in the second video below).
3. Move the fingers slightly about, trying to have both (all) in a straight horizontal line.
4. After only a bit of trying one (or more) detected fingers should disappear (become undetected) or ghost touch detections should appear.
To make it easier to detect these 'glitches' you can either use more fingers (3 should suffice) or try to emulate the videos below. If you don't have the Multitouch problem on your Note 3 then please also fill in the Poll so we get an idea of the scope of this phenomenon. Thanks!
Video showing 3 fingers 'gltching' in landscape mode: (beside a Galaxy Note 1)
Video showing 2 fingers 'glitching' in portrait mode:
Video showing erratic Multitouch behavior with more fingers: (through an "unwilling" participant )
(moving your fingers around a bit you should have the same Multitouch issues with only 3-5 fingers on screen)
Ps: I included a "Have not tested yet" entry in the Poll, fully expecting a user to change his/her choice later on; the xda forum software doesn't allow changing either the Poll or your choice unfortunately.
Mine works ok with 4 fingers. But with 5 or more, it's where the problems start.
What exactly does this mean? Not expecting to use more then 2 fingers at once. It seems pointless to me. No?
It's hard today use 5 finger on the phone
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Mine works ok with 4 fingers. But with 5 or more, it's where the problems start.
What exactly does this mean? Not expecting to use more then 2 fingers at once. It seems pointless to me. No?
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It seems I would agree, but seeing the commotion on the Nexus 7 forum and the impact on control glitches while playing games I thought I'd raise the question. Better to know and understand then pure ignorance.
Agree, that's why I asked.
Personally I don't remember one single time that I have used 3+ fingers on the screen.
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Hi while checking my new model Nexus 7 for (minor) multitouch problems with the apps "MultiTouch Test" and "MultiTouch Tester" I also tried these on my Note 3. Here I discovered that fingers/touches keep disappearing even with only 3 or 4 fingers on my European Note 3. Just moving the fingers about makes 1 or more touches disappear. Can others check as some don't seem to have this problem. Thanks in advance!
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I had that problem too. I noticed that when I didn't manage to drift in Mario Kart. I had to change my controller layout so it is not symmetrical because the problem seems to appear when your third touch is at the same level as your first one (sorry if that doesn't make any sense, English is not my primary language).
(I have a N9005 btw).
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I had that problem too. I noticed that when I didn't manage to drift in Mario Kart. I had to change my controller layout so it is not symmetrical because the problem seems to appear when your third touch is at the same level as your first one (sorry if that doesn't make any sense, English is not my primary language).
(I have a N9005 btw).
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Mine is a N9005 too. There must be many more people with such a defective Note 3 but not yet discovered it.
sounds like a touch screen driver problem. contact samsung about this. if they know it they will fix it at the next firmware release.
Did you use the built-in "show touches" feature in developers options to rule out any app compatibility issues?
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Did you use the built-in "show touches" feature in developers options to rule out any app compatibility issues?
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Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately, with such small round indicators, that feature doesn't help much in discovering suddenly disappearing finger touches.
I have used the latest version of both apps ("MultiTouch Test" and "MultiTouch Tester") mentioned in the openingpost. Sofar it seems that some people have the issue and others haven't, which would indicate that the problem is inside the phone, not the app(s).
A procedure to check whether you have the multitouch defect:
1. Download and run a multitouch testing app of good reputation (I tried both MultiTouch Test and MultiTouch Tester).
2. Put 3 or 4 fingers on the screen of your Note 3 in a horizontal line in landscape mode.
3. Move the fingers about trying to have at least a couple in a straight horizontal line (still in landscape).
4. After a bit of trying one or several detected fingers should disappear (become undetected) or ghost touch detections should appear.
5. In my case I can have 3 fingers on the screen with only 1 or 2 detected.
Today I got assured from somebody working at a local (Dutch) Samsung service center that Samsung won't exchange or repair my phone with the knox warranty flag set. They will just send it back and void the warranty. I'm also sure that many more people have this defect but don't know it yet, so it could become wise (or crucial ) to check for this problem BEFORE rooting your Note 3.
I will make a mention of this situation in some rooting topics so people are warned beforehand and can do a quick check for this phenomena. On my phone it looked like a Nexus 7 type defect which I am sure a lot of (smart phone) gamers will find highly undesirable.
Yup, definitely have this issue myself. Very worrying.
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Yup, definitely have this issue myself. Very worrying.
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neoKushan, thanks for your comment. Sofar you are only the third or fourth with this defect I am aware of.
I added a poll so we can collect data on this without everyone needing to reply (not that I want to discourage anyone from replying ).
Yes, my phone does have this problem, when I put more than 4 fingers on the screen horizontally or very closed to each other, it's shown only 2-3 fingers, sometime only 1. I dont use that many finger on my phone but it just bug me to know that I have a defected phone...
I can reproduce it after a lot of moving the fingers around but it's not easily reproducible. I'm not sure if I brought it back to the store they would recognize it as a problem since it mostly works normally. Is that how it is with others, or are you able to easily reproduce it time after time?
When I align three fingers one can disappear after messing with it for awhile. But if one does disappear and I put a fourth finger, ghost fingers appear and it spazzes out. (in any case, i have to mess around quite a bit before anything weird happens)
I haven't rooted yet, should I take to T-MOBILE and show them? Will they just dismiss it, like it's not an issue?
Is it REALLY an issue? I really want to root my phone, but I don't want to have issues later.
It can certainly be an issue (the 3 finger version at least) if you play games on your Note 3 using on-screen controls. Someone earlier here mentioned Mario Kart.
No problems here
I have the SM-N900W8 Canadian
All multitouch test apps work fine for me
All fingers move and detected perfect
10 fingers were detected (5 were mine, 5 were my co workers) =O
wtf?
first test, with 6 fingers looks good. I did some strange movements, everything looks ok.
but you are right, in landscape mode, with 4 fingers on a row,
very strange effects are visible.
2 from 4 focal points are temporarely lost.
tested on a german version gt 9005 stock rom without root, yet.
Hey guys, I just picked up my Tegra Note and I'm enjoying it, but in testing out the potential and limitations of the DirectStylus, I came across a problem and I want to find out if it's just my problem, or if it's reproducible with all Tegra Notes with the latest system updates.
Basically, I'm using the stylus, and stylus only mode is activated. This works pretty well and ignores most/all inputs from anything except the tip of the stylus.
However, I have noticed that if I slide my finger onto the screen from the outer edge/bevel, it will often (nearly 100% of the time) register this as a touch. For an example, if I tap the home button with my finger nothing happens, however if I drag my finger from just below the screen onto the home button, it will press. Likewise I cannot scroll through home screens by normally swiping my finger, but if I swipe from off screen on the left or right, it will register. Bringing down the notification area with a finger swipe, etc, all work as well when naturally this should only be possible with the stylus.
The main problem with this is when writing/drawing with my hand resting on the edge of the device. If my palm is entirely off the screen it is fine. If my palm is entirely on the screen then stylus only works, too. However, if in the process of writing my hand slides from the side onto the screen, suddenly the stylus looses focus and I'm drawing lines with my palm.
I hope I have explained this issue correctly, and I wondered if this was a known problem? If there are any solutions? Have I messed up and set an option somewhere I shouldn't have? Should I get it replaced? Sorry for all the questions! :laugh:
Oh and it's not rooted or anything. Just stock, updated to the latest system version through the system updates.
Thanks, hope you can help!
I get a similar issue at the bottom left of the screen sometimes. It only seems to effect the bottom left but in both orientations so that rules out a hardware issue. Doing a quick lock and unlock seems to fix it for me and it functions fine until next time I turn on stylus mode. Seems hit and miss with no real way to replicate it.
It didn't seem to do it before ota 2.3 so I predict a hotfix for the issue. Its a minor issue, the battery life on 4.4.2 isn't however, 4-5hrs with lite use is pretty rubbish. I suspect that's an issue with the power saving features (I think it's stuck on Max performance all the time).
Would be nice if they fix the SD write issue but Google dictate that I think.
Mine was certainly a lot worse than that - persistent on all four edges of the screen and there is no way to stop it. 60-80% of the time it was manageable, but consistently reproducible, other times it was far worse and could only manage dots and dashes when I tried to write anything while resting my palm on the screen. It also developed a 'blind spot' problem I've noticed reported on a couple of forums - a spot where the stlus simply refused to draw - so I grew more concerned that I had a problem with the actual hardware. So, I took it into the store I bought it from, and they're going to replace it for me.
Hopefully I won't have a problem with the replacement one, because I absolutely love the tablet!
I've had similar problems... just remember, all of the stylus functionality is governed by software; the screen on this is simply a regular capacitive screen that's also capable of detecting the size and shape of what's touching it, and the rest is calculated by software. It's a neat idea, but in practice it hasn't held up as well as Nvidia would've liked us to believe. Now that I've had a Galaxy Note 2 for a couple months, I have to say that the active stylus experience blows the TN7 away, but then again it's a much more expensive technology to implement. I almost always used a pencil with my TN7 while it was my day-to-day work buddy since I found the stylus to be too sticky and hard to write with... I also found several of the issues I was having weren't as bad while using a pencil, so maybe you could give that a try. Also, remember that if the screen is dirty that it will affect the stylus's performance as the screen is so sensitive that even a little moisture could register as a touch on the screen.
I received my replacement tablet today, and it is a lot better than the one I previously had. While the problem is still there, it is far, FAR better than before. Now it seems to be a minor nuisance, rather than a consistently reproducible problem. On top of that it has a much more vibrant screen - less yellow and washed out - and no 'dead zones' when trying to write with the stylus. So while I am certain software has an impact on performance, there must have been something weird going on inside the hardware of my previous device, too.
Considering the price, the fact that others have had similar issues, and how much I like about everything else - I'm very happy with my new TN7 now!
Have same problem .... When i swipe from left or right side of the screen it detects stylus nd do all the things.... Dont knw wat to do amazon is not replacing too the tablet..!
Same problem, I don't usually mind it other when I'm using an app like sketchbook pro, it becomes really annoying.
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Hi all
I've been an original NST user for years now and love it, but the poor beast is getting very tired now and could do with a rest. So, I'm thinking of getting either the GL2 or GL3.
I was wondering which model people preferred? I know they're both Android 4.2.2, but is that as far as the similarities go? Am I right in thinking that the GL2 has a capacitive touchscreen and the GL3 uses the old-style IR sensors?
I think it's likely I'd do the SD card mod on whichever one I choose, plus any other recommended mods (hardware and software).
Thanks in advance
Alex
I've been using my Glow2 as my main reading device for years.
I picked up an extra or two on ebay.
I like that the bezel is flush and therefore doesn't catch dust.
You can just wipe it on your pants.
However, the capacitive screen has problems with being touchy and sometimes major screen updates will activate it.
I have Glow3's with the infrared interrupter similar to the NST.
Both of these are sensitive to dust accumulation on the edges.
You need to run a damp cotton swap around the edges to clean the IR transmissive layer now and then.
Then there is the issue of the shadow on the screen caused by the thick bezel.
With these IR touch, the NST had access to the driver so you could see what it was seeing.
There is Touch-1.0.apk in the signature which shows you where the IR beams are broken, helpful when cleaning/troubleshooting.
The Glow3 has a different driver and the info is not available.
Finally, if you use the Glow2 for a long time you might notice that the Glow3 has a little better contrast because there is no capacitive touch layer in front of the eInk screen.
Both the Glow2 & Glow3 (& Glow4) allow soldering in an SD card, but the Glow3 requires a kernel patch.