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Did google fix the sreen problem after the upgrade?

Hi, Just wonder if you still have the screen problem (register the wrong place when click) after the upgrade.

No. You should check out the humongous thread on google support forums. Googe have now abandned even giving updates on this serious problem.
http://www.google.com/support/forum...8e&hl=en&fid=04134c63c784258e00047fdfe09ae547
p.s. no fix in ere36b either (as im running that now and still experience this problem at random)

I don't understand this issue, I just don't see it on mine at all, no matter what ROM I install ... there has to be something more to this than a simple fault across all handsets ... either select faulty ones or some other factor. Mine just works 100% as expected at all times.
That said I have had no 3G issues either, no matter what radio version I use. Perhaps I am lucky ?

I think its because people are touching the edge of the screen while pressing with the other causing it to register incorrectly

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I think its because people are touching the edge of the screen while pressing with the other causing it to register incorrectly
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That is not it, there are plenty of videos that show the touchsreen misfiring while just laying on the table. Also, the way I hold my phone I am never touching the glass surface other than with the one finger doing the touching.
With regards to some people not seeing it, this issue is very random. I can go for days without noticing it and then out of the blue it would come back, most annoying when it happens while typing something.
There is another somewhat related issue with the sensor on the n1. If you download an app called multi touch paint and try to draw two parallel lines simultaneously from say top left corner down to bottom right you will see that the lines are not straight at all and full of zigzags. Only way that this sensor recognizes multiple lines properly is if you draw perfectly vertical or horizontal lines.
There is also a discussion on developer groups where game developers are pointing out this very problem of multi toch totally being screwed up where it switches axis causing your touch to register in completely the wrong place. From the comments of the android engineer it makes it seem that the sensor hardware is just like that, cheap and low quality.
Link to discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/andr...read/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/9a8ea81133866460

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trust me its not.
i have had this twice and has nothing to do with that.
i dont see it as a huge problem but a lot of people are getting this on a daily basis..

vas41 said:
That is not it, there are plenty of videos that show the touchsreen misfiring while just laying on the table. Also, the way I hold my phone I am never touching the glass surface other than with the one finger doing the touching.
With regards to some people not seeing it, this issue is very random. I can go for days without noticing it and then out of the blue it would come back, most anyin when it happens while typing something.
There is another somewhat related issue with the sensor on the n1. If you download an app called multi touch paint and try to draw to lines simultaneously from say top left corner down to bottom right you will see that the lines are not straight at all and full of zigzags. Onlyway that this sensor recognizes multiple lines properly is if you draw perfectly vertical or horizontal lines.
There is also a discussion on developer groups where game developers are pointing out this very problem of multi toch totally being screwed up where it switches axis causing your touch to register in completely the wrong place. Fromn the comments of the android engineer it makes it seem that the sensor hardware is just like that, cheap and low quality.
Link to discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/andr...read/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/9a8ea81133866460
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I know, I have seen all these videos and attempted to re-create many times to test I have never seen this issue once.
Don't get me wrong I can understand it being a mare of you are having it, but I just dont ever see it.

after trolling the Google thread, it seems to me there are several scenarios everyone is lumping into "screen issues" and it's going to be hard to pin it down to one source
Mine happens (touch registers on the wrong part of the screen) when I am using certain apps (Ringdroid, Browser mostly) - a couple of things clears it up ; press the sleep button, kill all tasks if you have an app for it, or change to landscape mode. For other people it's the soft keys and/or much worse. Since mine clears up with a specific action, I tend to think it is software related.

With mine it used randomly to happen but only in the Launcher (never again since 36B). I couldn't point anywhere but if I selected any app with the trackball and opend ist everything worked fine again, also the keyboard on the launcher worked well. For me it seems that it has something to do with the launcher.

love vs hate - screen sensitivity (mostly hate)

I loved everything about this Phone until today. Today is the day I tried to access ebay from my Phone. Brought up the page in only a few seconds, good start. Pinch to zoom working well, excellent.
username in without too much trouble.
Password.... it took me 20 mins to get this in due to the ****ty sensitivity on the screen. I was almost at the point of throwing it against the wall.
I have the sensitivity fix installed, is there proper solution for this problem or some way to make the screen much more accurate for typing?

stoolzo said:
I loved everything about this Phone until today. Today is the day I tried to access ebay from my Phone. Brought up the page in only a few seconds, good start. Pinch to zoom working well, excellent.
username in without too much trouble.
Password.... it took me 20 mins to get this in due to the ****ty sensitivity on the screen. I was almost at the point of throwing it against the wall.
I have the sensitivity fix installed, is there proper solution for this problem or some way to make the screen much more accurate for typing?
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calibrate the screen ,it solves allot of issues , if this doesnot fix it change the screen

change the screen, you mean have it replaced?, this is my second phone as they other was the same, are we sure this isnt something we are going to have to live with?

stoolzo said:
Password.... it took me 20 mins to get this in due to the ****ty sensitivity on the screen. I was almost at the point of throwing it against the wall.
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what was the problem?
clicking the password field (I just find you have to be quite zoomed in, in opera it seems to ignore clicks to fields unless the fields have been zoomed in on.)
or typing the password on the keyboard because it has no auto text correction? (I dont really find this a problem to be honest, I use a large number of numbers, letters uppercase and lowercase and symbols and aslong as I dont type it too fast and think about each key I will always type it right first time)

getting into the fields wasnt too bad with zoom. The problem was multiple taps. When I type a key sometimes It also puts on all the keys around it, seems to be a bit random - I havent got sausage fingers either.
It may be worse for me as I had a touch HD before this and the resistive screen was very accurate, may just need more time to acclimatise.

you probably should go into notes and try drawing lines around, if they aren't really straight or if by pressing in one spot you have the cursoir drawing all around your fingertip, then it's probably still something to do with warranty servicing
Me, on the other side, never ever had any problem with sensitivity at all, all the contrary I think that if I had to install the sensitivity patch it would be way more unpleasant to use the phone, I like the sensitivity as it is now

:S hmm that sounds a bit weird, I don't really have much of a problem with key accuracy.
are you typing your password too fast? might help if you slow it down, instead of retyping it ten times, take 5 times longer to type it the first time and you have already cut down the time it takes you by a lot

Get the original stylus from HTC and try again. If it happens with the stylus too the screen is fu.....

This is going to be a random suggestion
Do you have any Task Managers installed? Such as Dutty's/Touch X or Appelflap's or anyone that put an icon in the top right of your screen.
If so, try uninstalling them and see if this a has any positive affect on your typing.
We'll deal with a replacement Task Manager later

when I move quickly accross the page it is fine, when moving slowly its absolutely terrible, akin to sizeometer earthquake 9 on the ricter scale. I am using Laurentius26 GoldEdition V2.1, I will flash back to stock and see what that is like.
this is what I am getting, exactly..!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rJJ1eyM9FM&feature=related

Have you tried using a different rom, if a new rom doesnt fix it there must be some hardware failure since that is not standard behaviour for the screen. I have just performed the same test on my phone and I get near perfect straight lines even while varying the pressure on the screen.

You say you have a fix installed is it this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831

I had the none ghost fix installed but realised I have both problems. Just uninstalled and installed the ghost+sense fix and reset....
no change

will try a new ROM, if no change then I am going to send it back to VODA, this was a "nearly new" phone on their swap scheme, got it free on £20.month, seemed to good to be true and was.

Watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egVn2HvexhQ&feature=related). It may be the case that your HD2 needs to be sent for repair as it may just be defective.
Did you try running no task managers? I presume that it did not help.
Send it off and explain it's unusable in this state.

put stock new ROM on from Voda, a lot better by far. It must either be the ROM, the fix or Zoomer which is causing this. I wonder if anyone else has has this problem, i will log this on the ROM thread.

still having problems with this, not as bad as before, think i am going to send it back and cancel the contract, I think this phone although beautiful is not fit for purpose.

Cant text right with keyboard open? Jumps around.

Recently (starting hours ago) When i try to text and use the physical keyboard it jumps around. It may scroll up the message or go over to send or things like that. I have taken my screen protector off (great, now i buy another one) and wiped it all down but it still does it.
I also reset it a few times.
Anyone else experiencing this?

I am getting the same thing. I think something is conducting on the capacitive screen as when I set the phone down or don't touch it at all, this never happens.

So should i exchange it?

I don't know. Like I said mine seems to do the same thing. I am not sure if it requires exchanging or if my fingers are brushing the side in a way they shouldn't. I'm open for suggestions myself

Hmm no mine just jumps up the text page like it scrolls the chat message up even if nothing is touching the screen.

Same thing here. Used to happen with my old myTouch but it was after a couple months of use. Uncool for it to happen on the G2 just after the 14 days have passed.

It is probably the capacitive pad thats not working right. Its probably detecting heat and scrolling on its own.
Yes get a replacement.

It's the touchpad. Move to a room with different lighting and try again.

I second the touchpad. It messes me up in the terminal by sending special characters.

SuperDave81 said:
It's the touchpad. Move to a room with different lighting and try again.
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I did notice it was the light now. Still does it sometimes tho.
Thanks. What do you guys mean by captive ? Heat ?

Mine does this randomly too, and I've also concluded it's the trackpad. One time I went to my home screen while it was doing it and I could watch the selection scrolling from left to right.
Haven't figured out how to fix it, usually if I lock then unlock the phone it works fine.

Mine just started doing this today. I was sitting under the A/C and i noticed whenever i would try to swype during SMS text messaging, it would highlight "Send" in orange or it would highlight and scroll up the text thread. After I moved away from the A/C, it stopped doing this. my trackpad has been fine and I have never had any issues prior to this or even after moving away from the A/C vent.
This trackpad works on heat I would guess or like others have said, possibly electrical ground current which is probably by a grid I would imagine.

Thats kinda bad for you guys. I havent had this problem at all but seems like a trackpad problem. This happen to me on my g1 onces and that was a dirty trackball
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Lost Touching on Xoom

Does anyone notice that if you touch on the screen for more than around 20 seconds at the exact same spot, the touch will be suddenly lost. You have to re touch the screen to get back the response.
You can download a multi touch testing app and try and you will know what I am talking about.
The problem is also found on ATRIX......(please refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000583)
I am now quite angry and wanna MOTO to have it fixed as soon as possible.

Does this manifest in any way in real-world use? I haven't noticed any touch screen problems.
There is a long list of things that people would like Motorola and/or google to fix right away: SD card, Video playback, Forced Closes to name a few.
But if a problem isn't noticed in every-day use, its not going to be much of a priority.

It'd seem more like something built in than just a bug that popped up.
At least as a developer, that's where I'd put my two cents. There's a reason for it -- although I guess I could see it being an issue if there were an app that made you hold your fingers still for 20+ sec, followed by movements on the screen... but I don't know.

Digital Man said:
Does this manifest in any way in real-world use? I haven't noticed any touch screen problems.
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It does, in fact, manifest itself in real-world use; when I hold the device with my left hand in the middle--as is usually the case--my thumb often presses against the black bar at the bottom (the one that has the time, navigation symbols, etc). After a few seconds, the screen fails to respond to touch; it does recover after a while, but until I read the op, I never realized the cause, i.e. I was removing my thumb from the bar. I was thinking of returning it, because I thought it was experiencing random freezes.

I would imagine this is a feature, whether in the hardware or implemented in the software. It's a pain in the arse from the device's perspective to be continuously polling a screen touch for 20 seconds or more.
I'm a developer too and unless it happens with _any_ continuous touch (moving or still) it's a feature not a bug.
However, if you were to touch and move for 20+ seconds then it stops responding, this is a bug, depends where and when (whether always or just in certain apps) it happens.

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It does, in fact, manifest itself in real-world use; when I hold the device with my left hand in the middle--as is usually the case--my thumb often presses against the black bar at the bottom (the one that has the time, navigation symbols, etc). After a few seconds, the screen fails to respond to touch; it does recover after a while, but until I read the op, I never realized the cause, i.e. I was removing my thumb from the bar. I was thinking of returning it, because I thought it was experiencing random freezes.
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So, like we said before, no real-word manifestation.

snarful said:
It does, in fact, manifest itself in real-world use; when I hold the device with my left hand in the middle--as is usually the case--my thumb often presses against the black bar at the bottom (the one that has the time, navigation symbols, etc). After a few seconds, the screen fails to respond to touch; it does recover after a while, but until I read the op, I never realized the cause, i.e. I was removing my thumb from the bar. I was thinking of returning it, because I thought it was experiencing random freezes.
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I haven't been able to replicate this on my XOOM. Though, if the problem occurs on your XOOM as you describe, I can understand why that would be annoying. Maybe the problem isn't present on all devices.

I did try a multitouch testing apply. I had 8 of my fingers for more than just 20 seconds. Didn't experience a thing until I put my ninth one down. On other test app, though, it said xoom can support up to ten.
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OK think I figured this out. I can replicate what you are saying. But, the whole screen doesn't lose touch sensitivity, only the menu bar. I suspect this is intentional, and part of honeycomb and not a flaw in the touchscreen hardware.
It just means that you have to remove one fingure from the menu bar before you can use it again. I can't see this causing any problem whatsoever in day to day use. Just an interesting quirk.

Don't forget , that the bar is part of the screen just like any other, if you're holding that in an app that doesn't support multitouch in such a way, it wont work.
One thing that always bugged me on my Android devices is that I can't drag the curtain (notification drop down) half way, keep hold of it and tap something inside then let go. But that's just the way it works.

Actually you are partially right. Its the honeycomb interface as a whole that becomes unresponisve, not the screen. For example if am at the home-screen and I touch the menu bar for more than 20 sec and hold my finger there, I can't open the browser.
BUT
If the browser is already open, and I hold down on the menu bar, the rest of the menu bar won't respond, but links in the browser work fine. So it's not the touchsreen that becomes unresponsive, its the Honeycomb interface.
Edit: after experimenting with different apps, it looks like my own observation isn't completely consistent. Some apps like the browser continue to respond. Others like Google books lock up. Not sure what to make of it all. But there are definitely cases where only the menu bar freezes and the app continues to respond.

Yeah, now that I know what causes this quirk to manifest, I'll just have to be careful not to rest my thumb on the bar. I must find some way to hold it firmly with my left hand; maybe some kind of suction device attached to the back.

snarful said:
Yeah, now that I know what causes this quirk to manifest, I'll just have to be careful not to rest my thumb on the bar. I must find some way to hold it firmly with my left hand; maybe some kind of suction device attached to the back.
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Patient: "Doctor it hurts when I bend over."
Doctor: "Well then don't bend over!"
LOL Pretty much a universal soltion. But I agree just a quirk, doesn't seem to be a big deal, just don't hold it like that.

LOL, right!

When you play games you can easily observe this!!
For example you play car racing, you have to touch the "accelerating button" for the whole time. It will suddenly lose response and all the other cars pass me.
Another example is the mini squadron, you have to keep touching the "fire button" to fire. But after touching for 20 seconds, it losses response again.
It is so annoying when playing games. However, except this, other daily uses will not observe this problem.
AND my XOOM is the recent WIFI only version. Maybe only this version has the problem?
AND I am talking about keep touching on the same position on the screen. You dont have to use two fingers to have the problem.

It makes Mario Kart unplayable.
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MikeyMike01 said:
It makes Mario Kart unplayable.
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Mario Kart works fine for me...

bwcorvus said:
Mario Kart works fine for me...
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I'm holding the A button and suddenly it stops.
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I have the 4G/Wifi Xoom fully stock,
I had a similar issue yesterday, I bought one of those styluses for ipad, which do work for OG Droid and for the Xoom, had a drawing app open, set the pad down with the stylus on top, it did 2 things it start to constantly draw from tip to clip.
then I picked up the stylus, now everything seemed to be stuck to a center point every touch drew a center line to the single point for about 2 minutes, I put it down, had wouldnt respond to more pressing, then picked it up it finally returned to normal.
although I just topped putting the stylus on it while its on, and havent had the issue, but I have only played angry birds, and fruit ninja.

Wow. Not good.
One of the XOOM's biggest selling points is HD Video, and it doesn't do that well.
The other is 3D gaming. And now we're finding out the control is messed up! Seriously!
And to think I was looking forward to gaming on this thing while waiting 3 hours for my damn videos to finish encoding. What next.
I'm starting to have doubts about the XOOM again. Video and 3D gaming was supposed to be what the Tegra 2 was all about. Would like more feedback about how real this problem is, and whether games are really unplayable - is this a quirk or a serious flaw? Will have to try some gaming tomorrow. Would help if we could list games that are affected and to what degree. Maybe we can get some consensus on whether this problem is meaningful or not.
Games reported to be affected so far:
1. Car racing (which one?)
2. Mini Squadron
3. Mario Cart

[Q] I've noticed a problem with palm rejection.

Hey guys, I just picked up my Tegra Note and I'm enjoying it, but in testing out the potential and limitations of the DirectStylus, I came across a problem and I want to find out if it's just my problem, or if it's reproducible with all Tegra Notes with the latest system updates.
Basically, I'm using the stylus, and stylus only mode is activated. This works pretty well and ignores most/all inputs from anything except the tip of the stylus.
However, I have noticed that if I slide my finger onto the screen from the outer edge/bevel, it will often (nearly 100% of the time) register this as a touch. For an example, if I tap the home button with my finger nothing happens, however if I drag my finger from just below the screen onto the home button, it will press. Likewise I cannot scroll through home screens by normally swiping my finger, but if I swipe from off screen on the left or right, it will register. Bringing down the notification area with a finger swipe, etc, all work as well when naturally this should only be possible with the stylus.
The main problem with this is when writing/drawing with my hand resting on the edge of the device. If my palm is entirely off the screen it is fine. If my palm is entirely on the screen then stylus only works, too. However, if in the process of writing my hand slides from the side onto the screen, suddenly the stylus looses focus and I'm drawing lines with my palm.
I hope I have explained this issue correctly, and I wondered if this was a known problem? If there are any solutions? Have I messed up and set an option somewhere I shouldn't have? Should I get it replaced? Sorry for all the questions! :laugh:
Oh and it's not rooted or anything. Just stock, updated to the latest system version through the system updates.
Thanks, hope you can help!

I get a similar issue at the bottom left of the screen sometimes. It only seems to effect the bottom left but in both orientations so that rules out a hardware issue. Doing a quick lock and unlock seems to fix it for me and it functions fine until next time I turn on stylus mode. Seems hit and miss with no real way to replicate it.
It didn't seem to do it before ota 2.3 so I predict a hotfix for the issue. Its a minor issue, the battery life on 4.4.2 isn't however, 4-5hrs with lite use is pretty rubbish. I suspect that's an issue with the power saving features (I think it's stuck on Max performance all the time).
Would be nice if they fix the SD write issue but Google dictate that I think.

Mine was certainly a lot worse than that - persistent on all four edges of the screen and there is no way to stop it. 60-80% of the time it was manageable, but consistently reproducible, other times it was far worse and could only manage dots and dashes when I tried to write anything while resting my palm on the screen. It also developed a 'blind spot' problem I've noticed reported on a couple of forums - a spot where the stlus simply refused to draw - so I grew more concerned that I had a problem with the actual hardware. So, I took it into the store I bought it from, and they're going to replace it for me.
Hopefully I won't have a problem with the replacement one, because I absolutely love the tablet!

I've had similar problems... just remember, all of the stylus functionality is governed by software; the screen on this is simply a regular capacitive screen that's also capable of detecting the size and shape of what's touching it, and the rest is calculated by software. It's a neat idea, but in practice it hasn't held up as well as Nvidia would've liked us to believe. Now that I've had a Galaxy Note 2 for a couple months, I have to say that the active stylus experience blows the TN7 away, but then again it's a much more expensive technology to implement. I almost always used a pencil with my TN7 while it was my day-to-day work buddy since I found the stylus to be too sticky and hard to write with... I also found several of the issues I was having weren't as bad while using a pencil, so maybe you could give that a try. Also, remember that if the screen is dirty that it will affect the stylus's performance as the screen is so sensitive that even a little moisture could register as a touch on the screen.

I received my replacement tablet today, and it is a lot better than the one I previously had. While the problem is still there, it is far, FAR better than before. Now it seems to be a minor nuisance, rather than a consistently reproducible problem. On top of that it has a much more vibrant screen - less yellow and washed out - and no 'dead zones' when trying to write with the stylus. So while I am certain software has an impact on performance, there must have been something weird going on inside the hardware of my previous device, too.
Considering the price, the fact that others have had similar issues, and how much I like about everything else - I'm very happy with my new TN7 now!

Have same problem .... When i swipe from left or right side of the screen it detects stylus nd do all the things.... Dont knw wat to do amazon is not replacing too the tablet..!

Same problem, I don't usually mind it other when I'm using an app like sketchbook pro, it becomes really annoying.
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