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Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
im not soo sure of this but that Motorola Droid looks bloody good! Really nice device, huge screen and it is one of the few Droid phones around that has a flash (LED i know but better than none)
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
shah_vm said:
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
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Yes. There have been several images on sites showing it over the last couple of days.
Aspesi4 said:
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
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Something I would like to know as well.
blazingwolf said:
Something I would like to know as well.
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Me too! Also if Motoblur will be easily ported.
shah_vm said:
is there going to be gsm version of droid?
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Yes, but we don't know about the 1700 Band yet.
Aspesi4 said:
Hey everyone,
Since the Android platform is so open to developers, is it simple to port the HTC Sense UI over to say the Motorola Droid? I know the Motorola is not what this forums is about, but is the UI something that can be extracted and put together for the Droid? I love the Sense, but those specs of the Droid really have caught my eye.
Let me know.
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i doubt it anytime soon...first the droid would need to be rooted first then devs can start buildin on it.
I guess DROID will have a better version of MotoBlur. And it can be better then Sense.... This is just my guess.
Actually since it is a Google Experience device it will NOT have motoblur on it.
dakarf said:
Actually since it is a Google Experience device it will NOT have motoblur on it.
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Why "Google Experience device" does not have MotoBlur ?
Is Moto Cliq not "Google Experience device"?
I understand, "Google Experiance (enabled) device" means it has Google's Closed-Source Applications / LIbraries installed, includes Android Market access, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Google sync, etc.
.... Am I wrong?
setupr said:
Why "Google Experience device" does not have MotoBlur ?
Is Moto Cliq not "Google Experience device"?
I understand, "Google Experiance (enabled) device" means it has Google's Closed-Source Applications / LIbraries installed, includes Android Market access, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Google sync, etc.
.... Am I wrong?
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I was wrong, my dear.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=26759
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Somehow, Android 2.0 includes MotoBlur's framework in it.
Basic idea of MotoBlur is to integrate phone and social network sites.
This is what Android 2.0 got, and 1.6 did not have at all.
I am thinking Android 2.0 is a better integration of Android 1.6 and MotoBlur.
I dont know how possible this is going to be.
From what i remember reading the sense ui, is dependant on the HTC framework which is a large part of the rom.
Its not just a question of ripping bits out, as is seen with WinMo and TouchFLO.
This is why sense hasnt been ported out to the g1 and instead the are ripping hero roms out and getting them running.
Not sure if the moto blur has the same frame work dependancy as the sense ui does.
joners said:
This is why sense hasnt been ported out to the g1 and instead the are ripping hero roms out and getting them running.
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wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
brian_v3ntura said:
wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
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...That's what he just said. Instead of ripping Sense alone, they're ripping the entire rom is what he was meaning.
brian_v3ntura said:
wow really... u just made urself look dumb.
hero has been ported. sense roms has been ported. enough said
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Please try and read my post and understand whats being said. That way you wont find the need to make sarcastic comments, its not particulary helpful for anyone else trying to follow the thread.
Just so you know Sense UI isnt a ROM, Sense (aka Rosie) is HTC's Custom UI for Android, closed source im affraid so no direct porting on the any other handset, all you can do is modifiy another phones ROM to run on your hardware.
Is it possible to PORT Sense UI to other devices such as the Sony Ericsson X10, Dell Mini 5 etc?
I really Fancy a Dell Mini 5 but i seriously want Sense UI. I couldnt go back to the Android without it. I wish the Supersonic would just hurry up. I want an Android phone with at least a 4" Screen running Android 2.1....
over at alldroid.org, there is a group of developers under the name Zeusdroid that are working on porting SenseUI over and nearly have it completed besides the RIL or the Radio Interface Link. Due to HTC's special configurations of their ROM that tie into the Radio, there has been some issues with it switching between 3G and 1X to make outgoing calls and then not being able to receive incoming calls.
If there are any season software engineers out there that would be willing to mod the existing RIL to work with the SenseUI rom, please head over to alldroid.org and seen a PM to Greek35T, thegeektern, Birdman or myself.
Thanks,
tallnerd1985
Sorry... but I'm new to the Droid community, but not new to modding.
I've already been through 6 ROMs on my phone... right now on UltimateDroid. It's alright... I need better though.
I've been looking all over... and alldroid is dead. Sadly.
Does anybody know where there might be somebody still working on this and getting it fully functional on the MotoDroid?
I would really love to have SenseUI. And be OCed as fast as I am (Quadrant has BCed me at 1500+ w/ Chevy's 1250 ULV).
Let me know guys... Thanks!
WOW thread necromancy.
There is a user over at droidforums that is working on a sense ui port on the droid 1 from the incredible.
He has a flashable version right now that phone and text work on but no data.
Check this thread.
Hey I was wondering if there was any way that someone could make a sense rom for the droid 2 and if it would even run on it. Also why wouldn't it work it is just additions to the system/app and system/framework.
Please explain what a locked bootloader restricts. I know it means that you can't use un-official kernels but does that mean you can't change it to sense?\
I would love to have the new sense from the desire HD for the droid 2.
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from what i understand the big thing holding back alot of the dev work for stuff like that on the droid2 is the motorola locked bootloader.... so far i've seen themes and the like with alot of the motoblur taken out/turned off but nothing beyond that (not even an aosp) but i know that its being worked on by some good people and I am holding my breath for the goods to start flowing for both the 2 and the X.... in fact i would really like to have it by the big tx bbq.... kinda soon but i can dream
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Hey I was wondering if there was any way that someone could make a sense rom for the droid 2 and if it would even run on it. Also why wouldn't it work it is just additions to the system/app and system/framework.
Please explain what a locked bootloader restricts. I know it means that you can't use un-official kernels but does that mean you can't change it to sense?\
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i adapted somehow htc sense to our Milestone (Droid 1 EU edition) , it works, but lacks speed due to the limited 256MB RAM available, secondly no-one has written a driver that emulated the bcm4329 hardware, so making bluetooth working ok is another major "not working".. even on older htc phones they had problems.
anyways i can say its possible is i did the reverse and put MotoBlur on Milestone, it works but somehow also lacks 512MB RAM here too.
to end this quick note,
HTC sense is not just an addition to the framework, its a different releas of the framework, every vendor does this, so like EU motorola did many updates on the milestone, but only first found now in droidx,droid2...
and porting it is not so simple, but i would think its possible, but i guess its too early for droid2 to have anything running as no real recovery exists, which loads before any os.
the one you got has a live /system when you open recovery, which means you can easily mess up your phone when you start modding to use sense, and pretty much make it unbootable, so a new sbf needs installed, which again means alot of testing before you actually get it working, and then backup? another problem to work with when you make small changes..
its not easy task without a real unlocked boot or a good recovery solution..
ok so technically what would I have to do to put sense on the droid 2?
ljbaumer said:
ok so technically what would I have to do to put sense on the droid 2?
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It will never work 100% of even close enough to have the phone fully functional. People have been trying since the Original Droid. It's also tied into the RIL of phone.
Out of the blue question
What about just theming the home screen menubars to get the sense menubars only? Is that possible?
that should be possible, as a few themes available right now have already altered those files with success. Now you just have to grab a Sense based ROM form a Droid 1 and start copying and modding image files mostly i think. to make a deodexed hybrid of Sense and MotoBlur.
Is is possible to just to have the speed-dialer/contact app working the D2(that is the only real thing I will miss if I go with the D2)?
I'd move to the D2 right away if you can get the HTC keyboard mixed with the multitouch keyboard of the D2, and then add contact app(and all that comes with it), and music app. That all I really like out of my Eris.
If the D1 was able to get a sense port(from what i have seen) how come we cant get it on the D2?
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If the D1 was able to get a sense port(from what i have seen) how come we cant get it on the D2?
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the original Droid ran stock android, but the droid 2 has a custom framework (MotoBlur) and a locked bootloader.
Makes logical sens thanks
Hi, why Droid 2 ROMS are not compatible with Milestone 2 ROMS? Can you anser please? I want to buy this phone in future
Really big thanks
kanek06 said:
Hi, why Droid 2 ROMS are not compatible with Milestone 2 ROMS? Can you anser please? I want to buy this phone in future
Really big thanks
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Because Droid 2 is a CDMA-phone (Verizon) and Milestone 2 is a GSM-phone (Europe e.g.)! Both are based on different chipsets. That's why this phones are technically not the same phones, they just look alike!
The Droid 2 Global is both: CDMA and GSM! So there are 3 different phones with the same look out in the wild.
Oh, I see. Well it's look bad, no ROM avaible now, only ROM Fission test. I am wondering to buy something different
Do you think some ROMS will come?
And themes for Droid2 can be used for Milestone2?
I tried to deodexed my milestone 2 rom yesterday, the process is not hard but a bit boring. I have different goal than theming, but it appears easy when everything is deodexed.
The Blur phone framework seems quite different from AOSP, so building AOSP ROM like Fission requires much more time than theming... If you want big changes to MS2, you got to be either very patient or well skilled in hacking
So i can't flash on Fission ROM (for M2) this THEME: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914196
try metamorph: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591329
not sure if they had that steel theme u want but they had a nice black one so it made me happy..
OK, no DesireZ, I will buy Milestone 2. I heard only positive comments for Fission ROM and I hope, new ROMS will arrived before I will buy the phone (next several months).
Only what I am scared is locked bootloader, I am affraid of brock
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If i would be you id buy the Desire HD way bigger display and no bootlock... i wish i bought it.. i cant get rid of my ms2
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What's bad and what i shouldn't do with locked bootloader? I want only flash ROM and THEME, no more customizion
And that wont work.
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And that wont work.
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Much like with the other Motorola phones, you CAN flash ROMs...you just can't change the kernel of the OS. Some functions not in the original kernel can be added by loading them as modules, but not all kernel features can be loaded that way.
If I had to guess, I'd say we'll get a few ROMs eventually, but given that much of the development scene goes on in the USA, we mightn't get as many as other phones...at least unless AT&T manage to get a version of the phone for their network. Unlikely though...Verizon seem to be going hard and exclusive on most of the Motorola gear...then again, Verizon are getting the iPhone after years on AT&T exclusive, so who knows what will happen in future...
To sum up...ROMs are coming, but don't expect the scene to be as vibrant for the GSM variants as it is with the CDMA ones...
if I had only known that before I bought a phone. Hmm, maybe it's time to play around myself a little bit =)
it's really disappointing that there isn't as much "hackery" going on in the Milestone 2 area compared to the Milestone 1.
Doshaska for example works so hard for getting the newest CyanogenMods on the Milestone 1, other groups released the 2.2 Froyo Upgrade months before Motorola did it (2 days ago they finally released it, but still not for everyone).
I think one of the problems is that the MS2 wasn't nearly as successful as the MS1 - but if we're lucky some skilled hacker will go on to our phone. Still hoping...
I think there will be better in the future - I bought this phone yesterday, with the hope for that . For now we've got the Argen2Stone. And look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870845&page=28 - Mikevhl would like to port the CM6 for us We must wait and help if possible
I have heard that some guys managed to port Android 3.0, better known as Honeycomb, to the G1, HTC Magic and to the Nexus One.
This are of course very beta versions, but the phones boot with it.
So, I wonder if someone could port 3.0 to our Xperia?
The HTC Magic and G1 were the first phones with Android, so our Xperia must be much better than them and, theoratically, it could work on it with just fewer lags than on the G1.
There are so many 2.2 and 2.3 ROMs available for our Xperia, so why not try to port 3.0?
If you think this is a stupid thread, just remove it, but I just wanted to know it.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
USE SEARCH FEATURE ON XDA AND YOU WILL FIND IT. Don't be lazy
You must be new here!
you will get burned at the stake by the guys here for opening such thread xD we are struggling to get a 100% bugless working android 2.2 and you bringing up android 3.0 which is meant for tablets with big screens xD lol
Edit : also such question is not meant to be in the dev section....
It was just a noob question...I also said that the versions for Nexus One, G1 and Magic are very beta versions.
There used to be an early version of Honeycomb somewhere here but the project has been abandoned. And no wonder - our kernel cannot even run Gingerbread without bugs, not to mention higher versions...
Even the kernel supports it, maybe phone will be too much laggy, as the HoneyComb suggests the need of 1.0Ghz processor, that is not our Case
So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?
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So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?
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Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/
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Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/
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not easy and i think they already gave up
Graveir and aldee_s are right: someone has already ported it, but development is currently down.
here is the thread to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982384&highlight=honeycomb
Blagus was disappointed with that, the only one that i saw making some progress was maxfron, but I didn´t saw him anymore
That had it ported but far to laggy m8 r CPU 2 slow at the min but I think I may still have that download ill cheack for u and upload it if so
my civic
Is because our phone is not ARMv7 & above and the processor speed is not super fast..if u port it into x8 it will buggy & lags in all of the function
Lets wait for 2. 4 but google need so much time : #
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There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ
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There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ
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This is fake he just editted the build.prob file!
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You can edit this in build.prop?
Do you mean the line:
Code:
ro.build.version.sdk=8
, so you would only have to change the number?
I think new Android will be 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich"
Not 2.4
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your new here arent ya? hahaha! its not very impossible to port 3.0 in our x8 just wait and see
Hello everyone,
Today, I was hoping that someone with knowledge could shed some light on this topic.
As from what I can see, the Desire, the Nexus One, the Desire HD and many other devices have already gotten full HWA with ICS.
So what is really making the HD2 fall behind? Is it because that all these device run Android natively and the HD2 doesn't ? Is it because our device is just too old? What is the main reason?
Thank you for reading, any sort of information is appreciated.
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I took a look at those forums and it appears that they do not have full HWA much the same way we don't. I noticed that the ICS roms report that there is working HWA but there are still video and camera issues resulting from lack of full HWA.
I have yet to see any phone beyond the Nexus S have full HWA yet, add to that fact we do not have a true Android device so there is always the issue of proper drivers.
Marvlesz said:
Hello everyone,
Today, I was hoping that someone with knowledge could shed some light on this topic.
As from what I can see, the Desire, the Nexus One, the Desire HD and many other devices have already gotten full HWA with ICS.
So what is really making the HD2 fall behind? Is it because that all these device run Android natively and the HD2 doesn't ? Is it because our device is just too old? What is the main reason?
Thank you for reading, any sort of information is appreciated.
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Because you didnt download the source code , and make the necessary modifications to get it on the HD2 lol sarcasm
elesbb said:
Because you didnt download the source code , and make the necessary modifications to get it on the HD2 lol sarcasm
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I see what you did there haha
chrisrj28 said:
I took a look at those forums and it appears that they do not have full HWA much the same way we don't. I noticed that the ICS roms report that there is working HWA but there are still video and camera issues resulting from lack of full HWA.
I have yet to see any phone beyond the Nexus S have full HWA yet, add to that fact we do not have a true Android device so there is always the issue of proper drivers.
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Well, most of the ROMs I have seen say "HWA (real)" or "Full" which I assume isn't the same as ours? Sure, camera and video playback issues may be present.
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Because you didnt download the source code , and make the necessary modifications to get it on the HD2 lol sarcasm
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If I could do it myself, I wouldn't be posting this here .
But I'm neither a coder nor a developer, furthermore, I am only asking not, not "do it for me" ..
I am just hoping that it isn't (doesn't become) like the camcorder on sense builds.
Thanks for everyone.
The reason things like hwa take so long to be written for our phone is because it isn't a native android device. With all other devices you mentioned there is a stock android rom that comes shipped out of the box, with hwa and camera drivers written by the phone manufacturer. In that case, devs only need to tweak the code to make it work on their build.
With the HD2, devs need to write it from scratch or borrow code from another device and hack the s##t out of the code to make it compatible with the HD2.
PS. Is there still a problem with camcorder on sense rom's? I've not used sense since the haret days, but it works fine on miui (2. 3.7 of course)
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And also don't forget that now we don't have the good old developers that started the whole project like dcordes,letama,markinus,dan1j3l,darkstone and other talented guys.cotulla is still with us but I think he likes more wp7 and not android
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The reason things like hwa take so long to be written for our phone is because it isn't a native android device. With all other devices you mentioned there is a stock android rom that comes shipped out of the box, with hwa and camera drivers written by the phone manufacturer. In that case, devs only need to tweak the code to make it work on their build.
With the HD2, devs need to write it from scratch or borrow code from another device and hack the s##t out of the code to make it compatible with the HD2.
PS. Is there still a problem with camcorder on sense rom's? I've not used sense since the haret days, but it works fine on miui (2. 3.7 of course)
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In reply to your question about GB Sense, yes HWA has not yet been implemented yet, this is the last hurdle.