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[Q] MIUI

Hey ive been seeing this MIUI floating around and just seeing if there one for the droid 2? if not can some body get this thing rolling??

Even I had a clue on how to go about this I'd give it a go, but I'm too new to Android to have a clue on how to port roms.

droid 2 roms
I would love to see the zen miui rom for the droid 2. Also, I see a lot of themes for the droid 2 but not many in fact hardly any custom roms. I am spoiled though because I am coming from a droid 1. Verizon replaced my defective Droid 1 with a Droid 2 but I think my Droid 1 was better because of the unlocked bootloader and all the custom roms. I have rom manager and it only has 2 listed and they don't wok. Any help would be appreciated. thanks. Mike

juicem2 said:
I would love to see the zen miui rom for the droid 2. Also, I see a lot of themes for the droid 2 but not many in fact hardly any custom roms. I am spoiled though because I am coming from a droid 1. Verizon replaced my defective Droid 1 with a Droid 2 but I think my Droid 1 was better because of the unlocked bootloader and all the custom roms. I have rom manager and it only has 2 listed and they don't wok. Any help would be appreciated. thanks. Mike
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the phones only been out a few months, and there are several custom roms....and people still working on bootloader.
Personally running epic 2.7 atm, but there's also all the motoboy star wars stuff & green rom, and there will be lots more in the months to come. Have to realize the d1 has been out for a long time, so of course there's going to be a lot more custom stuff out.

Glad to hear they are still working on the bootloader. It would be nice if they can unlock it.

new rom

Are we going to see any new roms for the aria or no...
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what do you mean by new roms?

We have 4 well made roms already, stock 2.1, liberated 2.1, liberated 2.2, and cm6. If you want to re-roll the stock rom 100 different ways that are all nearly exactly the same like some other phones, go right ahead.

I look forward to the new rom you are going to develop and can't wait to try it out!
g4ess said:
Are we going to see any new roms for the aria or no...
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It really doesnt get any better than what we already have available! In this case quality is far superior to quantity. And less confusion this way as well having less of the same thing being re-made.

thanks to all the people that made since i appricate it.. to the other fools that just wanted to come here just to type cause u are bored kick rock u lames.. i asked the question 1 maybe i am not a phone geek like u and 2 i am trying to learn.. i wasnt being smart...

It's a legit question.
People coming from other phones (WM especially) might expect 2 dozen different ROMs. The fact is, we have 4 great base ROMs, and Android's ability to customize them however you want, without needing a ton of expertise. We don't have to wait around for a select few people to cook up new updates for us.
Although, I really wouldn't be opposed to some people creating some dedicated theme ROMs.

Moved to general as this is not development.

Thats what i meant a fully theme rom.. i had a mytouch n windows mobile in the pass n i no people made more themed n customizable roms.. thank u guys..
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As far as roms go - i dont think we need any more base roms - but maybe some decent themes for the Aria.

I like how polished (but few) options we have for aria. If you've ever wandered over to Nexus One development forum you will see rom overload. How would I even know where to start? With the aria it's simple, yet we have very polished options. Got to give props to attn1.

Droid X or dinc??

My wife's og Droid took a poop so I bought an Incredible which I'll have in a day or 2. I love my X but am thinking about swapping her to have something new (to me) to play with until I upgrade this summer. Has anyone here had both and prefer one over the other? Decisions decisions....

Droid X all the way. Moto is the way to go, I've expierienced nothing but problems with HTC (all models), not to mention horrible battery life.

I just came from the Dinc a month ago to the X. I have always used HTC devices from the old windows op to their first android to the DInc. I also (as in the post above me) have had issues with the HTC, but, I am brand loyal. I like the development side of HTC over Motorola. THere are MANY more ROMS and custom things available for the HTC devices. That is the one thing I miss. With the Dinc..there are Incredible 2 and S roms available that give you the newer SenseUI. IT IS AMAZING!! along with HTC HUB to download more themes and skins..along with sound sets! It really is amazing, the level of custom things that can be done with HTC devices.
There was talk with HTC and Verizon to be more locked down, however, HTC has agreed to not back root access more difficult..a day after the Thunderbolt was released..it was hacked.
The only reason I went with the Droid X was because of the 29.99 price. I am going back to HTC.
With the Droid X (it appears) everytime you want to go back to stock you have to SBF (which is not a big issue), however, to do that you need access to a computer. THAT IS NOT THE CASE with the Dinc. I have been at work and switched ROMS 5 or 6 times..the back-ups are stored and can easily be re-loaded on the go. The functionality is FAR better than the Motorola in that aspect.
If you are the type to "tinker" constantly with the ROMS and phone, go with HTC, if you are ok with having to have a computer handy to switch out from custom to stock and back..stick with Motorola.
My opinions.
If the HTC SenseUI is not what your looking for..there ARE MANY ROMS that use vanilla and 2.3 operating systems. There are also MIUI ROMS if you want the complete look of the iphone and functionality of android systems.
there really is NO LIMIT to the customization of HTC.
Google "the incredible list"...it is just a brief run down of the custom ROMS and tweaks..about 40 or so..and it is not updated often.
CM7 is my personal favorite ROM for the DInc...ALOT of custom features..
Now technically stuff vs opinion:
I believe the X has more internal storage. Both phones are capable of holding and supporting 32gb memory cards though. Screen size is another difference. The X is 4.3 and the Dinc is 3.7. (I download alot of movies and store them on my SD card so the 4.3 on the X is better). Both have 8mp cameras. The Dinc is a 720p output and does NOT have an HDMI output like the X. However, there are many ROMS that include "TVOut" for the Dinc. Most of the newer ROMS (I could be mistaken, not sure these have been fixed yet) are not capable of running the 720p video, now..ALOT of people were working on getting that fixed.
With the fact the bootoader is unlocked on the Dinc, you can run many different style ROMS that give you the same look and feel of the X. again, the technical differences are still there.
It really comes down to: do you want the true full ability to customize?
EDIT:: Regarding battery life mentioned in the above post. I easily went 24-36 hours with normal use and no need for a charge. Use SETCPU and custom setting to scale cpu by time, battery levels, and screen off and you are good to go.

Well, as much as the X is a better phone... The Incredible, from what I understand, is much easier to modify. Pretty sure the bootloader is unlocked, aswell.
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I answered the dinc side of this topic just a second ago before I came and looked at my "home" section, but I want to add that the DX is better as long as you aren't planning on using a ton of custom roms/kernels.
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Thanks for all the feedback, everyone!
chbennett said:
I answered the dinc side of this topic just a second ago before I came and looked at my "home" section, but I want to add that the DX is better as long as you aren't planning on using a ton of custom roms/kernels.
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Kinda what I was thinking. And yea I had to post in both sections to help weed out the "my phone is better" people.
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Greetings. Moving on from my Incredible...

Just ordered my DX on Ebay to replace my slowly deteriorating, yet faithful, Droid Incredible.
I am trying my best to read through the threads here, but there is a lot to take in (though development does seem to lag considerably behind the Inc). My plan is to stay stock for a few days to see what it is like, and then I will root and have fun. I have used at least 30 ROMS across five different devices, so flashing and rooting is not new to me.
If anyone is willing to distill some information for me, it would be much appreciated. Here are my questions...
1) Are there any reasons not to root the DX? What I mean is, are there any known pitfalls such as hardware failure that are known to be linked to rooting with the DX. I know of the implied dangers with regard to bricking.
2) Are there any others who have come from the Incredible? I have run every ROM available for that phone, and I think MIUI and SkyRaider were my favorites. I liked the Sense 3.0 stuff, but it was fairly unstable (not to mention the DX doesn't have Sense anyway). Any recommendations here for ROMs that are similar in flavor?
3)WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT BLUR?? I put this in caps because there seems to be a lot of hate on this motoblur skin for android, and many people adamantly demand ROMs to be de-blurred. What's so bad about it? How does it compare to Sense? I guess from what I've seen on video comparisons it doesn't seem all that bad.
Anything else I should know about this device before I get started on it? Anything I should definitely do or NOT do as far as modding is concerned?
Thanks!

Epicardium said:
Just ordered my DX on Ebay to replace my slowly deteriorating, yet faithful, Droid Incredible.
I am trying my best to read through the threads here, but there is a lot to take in (though development does seem to lag considerably behind the Inc). My plan is to stay stock for a few days to see what it is like, and then I will root and have fun. I have used at least 30 ROMS across five different devices, so flashing and rooting is not new to me.
If anyone is willing to distill some information for me, it would be much appreciated. Here are my questions...
1) Are there any reasons not to root the DX? What I mean is, are there any known pitfalls such as hardware failure that are known to be linked to rooting with the DX. I know of the implied dangers with regard to bricking.
2) Are there any others who have come from the Incredible? I have run every ROM available for that phone, and I think MIUI and SkyRaider were my favorites. I liked the Sense 3.0 stuff, but it was fairly unstable (not to mention the DX doesn't have Sense anyway). Any recommendations here for ROMs that are similar in flavor?
3)WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT BLUR?? I put this in caps because there seems to be a lot of hate on this motoblur skin for android, and many people adamantly demand ROMs to be de-blurred. What's so bad about it? How does it compare to Sense? I guess from what I've seen on video comparisons it doesn't seem all that bad.
Anything else I should know about this device before I get started on it? Anything I should definitely do or NOT do as far as modding is concerned?
Thanks!
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Welcome to the Droid X community!
In your experiences here you will learn that the Incredible and the Droid X have many differences.
To answer your queries:
1. There are no hardware pitfalls when rooting a Droid X, and our device is virtually brick proof.
2. My personal favorite rom for the Droid X is MIUI, but there are many popular roms. DarkslideX is a stock based rom that is absolute in speed and battery life (giving over fifteen hours).
3. Sense is better than blur in nearly every aspect. Blur slows the phone down incredibly, you won't experience the full capability of your Droid X using blur.
Some things you should know:
1. What a sbf file is. It is what makes this device virtually unbrickable, it will return you to pure stock with only several clicks. Also, SBFing to Froyo is required when flashing roms such as MIUI and CyanogenMod.
2. Don't ever use Droid X Bootstrap. When flashing from Froyo to any Gingerbread rom you must use Droid 2 Bootstrapper or you will have to reSBF your phone.
I'll report back if I think of anything else, good luck! =D
(I'll try to post links to important things later, also)
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infazzdar said:
Welcome to the Droid X community!
In your experiences here you will learn that the Incredible and the Droid X have many differences.
To answer your queries:
1. There are no hardware pitfalls when rooting a Droid X, and our device is virtually brick proof.
2. My personal favorite rom for the Droid X is MIUI, but there are many popular roms. DarkslideX is a stock based rom that is absolute in speed and battery life (giving over fifteen hours).
3. Sense is better than blur in nearly every aspect. Blur slows the phone down incredibly, you won't experience the full capability of your Droid X using blur.
Some things you should know:
1. What a sbf file is. It is what makes this device virtually unbrickable, it will return you to pure stock with only several clicks. Also, SBFing to Froyo is required when flashing roms such as MIUI and CyanogenMod.
2. Don't ever use Droid X Bootstrap. When flashing from Froyo to any Gingerbread rom you must use Droid 2 Bootstrapper or you will have to reSBF your phone.
I'll report back if I think of anything else, good luck! =D
(I'll try to post links to important things later, also)
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
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Fantastic! This is the kind of information I am fishing for. Thanks a million. I am mashing the 'Thanks' button.....
Also, do you have any real problems with MIUI on the DX? Any annoyances (like haptic not working, etc)?

Epicardium said:
Fantastic! This is the kind of information I am fishing for. Thanks a million. I am mashing the 'Thanks' button.....
Also, do you have any real problems with MIUI on the DX? Any annoyances (like haptic not working, etc)?
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Personally, I don't have issues whatsoever. All I can say is to try it out =D
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Now have an X2 also. Which to keep??
Through an odd set of circumstances, I have now acquired an X2 in addition to an original X. Love the screen on the X2, and the CPu & GPU, but seems like the X might still be the better choice given that it is further along the development cycle. Seems the X2 may never get there because I can't tell that very many great devs are working on it. Could be wrong though. Any thoughts on which phone I should keep?? Have to sell one of them in the next couple of weeks to recoup some costs.

[Q] Likelyhood of development on Razr M?

Greetings, programs! Well my question is not likely something anyone could have a definitive answer for - but I welcome any opinions or ideas. I don't want phone that is locked up against tinkering, but the current "price" of this phone is so tempting. Just about everything I've read tells me I'd really love this phone - the only thing holding me up is my expectation that there will be little to no development done with this phone.
I see that the bootloader seems to have been successfully unlocked? Now that this is the case I wonder if it's likely to be something anyone puts work into as far as developing ROMS/kernels. I'm not expecting Nexus-level activity, but even the hope of something might help me make up my mind (or I may just get a GNex). Thanks,

Merman1983 said:
Greetings, programs! Well my question is not likely something anyone could have a definitive answer for - but I welcome any opinions or ideas. I don't want phone that is locked up against tinkering, but the current "price" of this phone is so tempting. Just about everything I've read tells me I'd really love this phone - the only thing holding me up is my expectation that there will be little to no development done with this phone.
I see that the bootloader seems to have been successfully unlocked? Now that this is the case I wonder if it's likely to be something anyone puts work into as far as developing ROMS/kernels. I'm not expecting Nexus-level activity, but even the hope of something might help me make up my mind (or I may just get a GNex). Thanks,
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The boot loader is unlockable for the dev edition RAZR m and as for development, safe strap has been released and cm10 alpha has been released. I have no doubt that in the future, more will come out. If ur attracted to this phone, then I highly suggest you get it because of the size and specs.
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jarzy00 said:
The boot loader is unlockable for the dev edition RAZR m and as for development, safe strap has been released and cm10 alpha has been released. I have no doubt that in the future, more will come out. If ur attracted to this phone, then I highly suggest you get it because of the size and specs.
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Totally agree with jarzy00 i am coming from evil land apple and this phone feels nice and compact replacing my i4 LMAO
Razr i, Razr M and Razr M XT905 (Future release for Euro market maybe) are one of the few phones left standing with this kind of small foot print.
ever one else moved on to larger screens. And the specs aren't too shaby =)

Ok, I see. My experience with Moto phones are limited, but do I have it right that using the bootstrap method you can flash custom ROMS, but custom kernels are a no go? Still waiting till I make a decision, but every bit of info helps.

Coorect Bootstrap allow you to load that Beta CM10.
(There isn't much support on that yet)
And no custom kernels unless you have the Dev edition
There are AU Edition, US Edition, Dev Edition, And the i (Intel), there are plans for a EU Edition which will be GSM only
Either get it and hand in tight, or look for a DEV

Merman1983 said:
Ok, I see. My experience with Moto phones are limited, but do I have it right that using the bootstrap method you can flash custom ROMS, but custom kernels are a no go? Still waiting till I make a decision, but every bit of info helps.
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Not sure how far development is on Safestrap for the M, but it will allow custom kernels on locked devices using kexec. The version for the Droid 3 (which has a locked bootloader) allows a 3.x kernel to be run instead of the factory 2.6.x kernel in order for better ICS and newer compatibility. Unless Motorola has patched this kexec bypass then it should be possible to implement on the M.

Thanks guys for this thread. I was possibly looking at this phone, but I don't want to end up with the same situation we had with the bionic. I think I'll skip it until Moto wises up and unlocks the bootloaders.

If you really want some development here, look at the donate thread for getting nytro a razr m so he can develop for the retail version. In terms of safestrap, you could potentially get modify a custom rom. It just takes one rom to iron out the major bugs and people can start deriving from it.

i dont think moto will ever get smart with bootloaders, which is sad because they make quality phones, with unlocked bootloaders i dont think id ever buy another brand. but regardless, we have stable safe strap, just isnt a big flagship device, its not a new phone and with all the new better phones that are cake to unlock, this phone is just looked over and left in the dust, aside from a few very good devs we have working to give us some stuff to play with, we wont see much.