Hi, i am just wondering if i should flash my stock kernel and use root. I like to be able to play games including the tegra ones however If i do use root and use chainfire 3d will all the curent market apps i have still be available? last time i went to fix market settings and i lost some of them and had 2 manually download them off the internet.
Also, what are the cons of rooting?
I am worried about losing my carrier specific firmware..what does that actually do?
There aren't that many good reasons to root.
I only rooted mine to do the free sim unlock (also from chainfire). 6 months in and I'm still on the rooted stock rom and stock kernel.
On old android phones I had always rooted to use apps2sd, but that isn't an issue with the SGS2.
Perhaps the best reason to root is to get Android 4.0 before the OTA release. Looks like we should have a reasonable ICS ROM with most things working by Christmas. The OTA may be a few months away.
IMO a device should come pre-rooted or at least mentioned in the phone box that it should be rooted
Seriously.
Simple if you have to ask then the answer is NO.
You root when you need root .
It does nothing to the phone bar allow a deeper user level access .
When you require this level of access or you want to run an app that requires root then root .
Likewise if you want to install a custom rom via CWM you require root .
Root voids warranty and raises the custom rom counter so its your choice .
jje
JJEgan said:
Simple if you have to ask then the answer is NO.
You root when you need root .
It does nothing to the phone bar allow a deeper user level access .
When you require this level of access or you want to run an app that requires root then root .
Likewise if you want to install a custom rom via CWM you require root .
Root voids warranty and raises the custom rom counter so its your choice .
jje
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+1 on that.. Its all up to you...
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I was in the same boat, I couldn't decide whether to root our not.
I recommend doing your research, think allot if you actually need rooted apps. Then decide on a method of rooting.
Zergrush is the best method if you just want root access. Its the method I used, plus you can easily flash a new kernel using an app like Mobile Odin.
If you feel you don't NEED root don't do it. Messing on with a phone will void the warranty and possibly irreparably damage it.
Good luck
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I believe forum's are a great place for asking questions, but an even better place for researching all you need to know. So is Google.
****, when I first started off with the S1 I had no idea about android. But through reading alone I learnt how to obtain download mode (mine didn't have it), spoof product code in kies, flash all sorts through Odin and cwm, as well as root and more.
I didn't care about root until I downloaded titanium backup which requires it. I therefore wanted root access.
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what ever you do as soon as you root back up the /efs folder (immediately first thing you should do after rooting no matter what!)
i only rooted my phone because i wanted to use setCPU to save battery.
Since you would like to play Tegra games and the only way in S2 is root and use chainfire 3D. Just root it off and enjoy it
With superoneclick you have the option to unroot. Would Samsung know that it's been rooted and still void warranty?
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With superoneclick you have the option to unroot. Would Samsung know that it's been rooted and still void warranty?
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Unrooting will unroot the device.. It can be done in every other methods also.. But your custom binary counter will increase.. Simply, yes it is possible to find that the device is rooted even after unrooting, unless you reset your binary counter..
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Titanium Backup=reason to root
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Also , Sixaxis Controller app is so sweet if you own a PS3. You seem like the gaming type so you could get a PSX emulator, download your favorite ROMs and whack it off with your PS3 dualshock. Imagine playing Metal Gear Solid on your SGS2 ( looks better then on a real PSone actually
altough configuring the app is a pain in the a$$
PS. the amount of customization you can do when you root is immense!
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Unrooting will unroot the device.. It can be done in every other methods also.. But your custom binary counter will increase.. Simply, yes it is possible to find that the device is rooted even after unrooting, unless you reset your binary counter..
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Use [ROOT] SG2 Easy Rooting Toolkit from zergRUSH - This doesn't increase the custom counter... Very easy to do, unroot is simple also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321538
The simple answer (my favourite type) is don't root.
If you require to run an app that requires root or you want to replace a system app or you just want to tweak the system, then you need to root.
Rooting is simple enough and so is it for getting it back to warranty condition.
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Unrooting will unroot the device.. It can be done in every other methods also.. But your custom binary counter will increase.. Simply, yes it is possible to find that the device is rooted even after unrooting, unless you reset your binary counter..
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Is there a way to reset your binary counter?
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Use [ROOT] SG2 Easy Rooting Toolkit from zergRUSH - This doesn't increase the custom counter... Very easy to do, unroot is simple also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321538
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Do this before changing roms etc.... It isn't a full on root with changing kernal and roms etc.. BUT you can use titanium and cachemate etc... I only rooted to restore backup from previous android devices
I don't think it voids warranty
Then if you want to change your rom etc you can do it later and change your kernal etc
Tbh though, i agree with an earlier comment, if you need to ask why, you probs dont need to root
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Is there a way to reset your binary counter?
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Yes there are multiple ways and a ship load of threads on how to reset it.
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MagicMan3 said:
Is there a way to reset your binary counter?
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Surely you can...
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Hello people,
I'm relatively new to the Android wold (1 month) and I bought an Arc from my Carrier.
I'm kinda satisfied but I really dislike the way some applications can't be removed (I count something like 20 applications between the carrier and Sony Ericsson partners).
So, I'm considering rooting the phone, but there is a lot of informations I shall process before doing it and I am a little bit unsure about some facts, so I hope you would help me. Here's my questions:
Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
Thanks by anticipation for your answers.
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New and simple way to root Arc / Arc S with locked bootloaders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1320350
Yes, you'll still be able to update via SEUS as long as your bootloader remains locked. But you'll lose root once you update.
Is it really a reasonable behavior to root the phone, just in order to remove a 20ish apps or would you think I'd have a better experience to just stick with it ?
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If the crapware is using up space you need, then that's a pretty good reason to get rid IMO. If SE had left us with a bit more free space it might not be such an issue. Also, root lets you do lots of cool things with your phone that you cant do otherwise.
I understood there was some problems with arcs under android 2.3.4, they seems to be solved, but I'm unsure which method I shall follow (I don't want to mess the bootloader nor the ROM, I just want root permissions). May you show me which way I shall go ?
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If you have 2.3.4 then the best bet seems to be the zergRush method detailed here. Havent tried it yet myself, but planning to soon.
On my linux computer, I won't login under root every time I would power it on. When the phone is rooted, does this means, I am always granted root access and I shall be aware of what I'm doing or can I choose to get root privileges only when I need them ?
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Dont think of rooting as giving *you* superuser access, think of it more as allowing you to choose which *apps* have superuser access. Apps with superuser access can do things normal apps cant. Think of the apps as the users of the system - you're just interacting with normal or privileged apps.
When you root, a superuser access app gets installed. Then whenever a non-system app requests su permissions, the superuser app will ask you whether to allow or deny those permissions (you can allow the app permanently or have it ask every time).
If I root the phone without changing the bootloader, would I be able to update the phone along Sony Ericsson releases ? (OTA only ?)
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Yup you will still be able update via OTA or via SEUS. Updating via SEUS will remove root, but so far OTA updates have maintained root (no guarantee this will continue in the future though).
don't delete just freeze
i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it
Thank you Daveybaby, and thanks Hush066 too.
Now, I'm a bit more aware of what's the rooting process and I shall say you both fired quickly an answer to each topic. I think I'll try the rooting, after the weekend.
Thanks you again.
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i advice not to delete the apps that comes with the phone cuz you will not gain extra memory so if there any app that bother you just freeze it and it will be removed from the app drower and it will not work again but when you feel you want them back unfreeze it
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What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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All new members should read the stickys, it saves people having to rehash information. ;-)
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I'm sorry, it's true I've posted a bit fast. Yet, I didn't found the sticky talking about freezing apps, but I found out I have to root the phone, even if I only wish to freeze the apps.
Now I know I'll have to root the device (the bloatwares are starting to annoy me a great deal) should I uninstall or freeze the carrier apps.
Thanks again for every answers.
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What do you mean by "freezing" the apps ?
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Apps such as Titanium Backup allows you to either uninstall or freeze a system app. Freezing the app just disables it while uninstalling will completely remove it from the phone.
Unlock Root Tools is a android root tool. Supports the Android 2.1,2.2 and 2.3Easy way to get root access Permissions！
the software can be found at : LINKS REMOVED
Try at your own risk but It worked like a charm for my SGS2,
How to Root Your SGS2:
To Root your phone you will have to download Unlock Roottool from the unlockroot.com. and install
1) Your device must be in USB Debugging mode.
2) If you have not installed Android SDK Driver , install it after installing the tool : Start Menu -> Programs -> Unlock root -> Install Driver
3) Connect your device to your PC, Run UnlockRoot.exe
4) Click “Unlock Root”, Enjoy
I did not test the "unroot" option of this tool yet.
Thanks
So rather than use CFRoot which takes all of two minutes, I run an exe in debug mode from a source that I have absolutely no idea about the credentials of ?
No thanks.
Not the simplest method is it at all .
jje
Errrrrrrr no thanks!
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Not the simplest method is it at all .
jje
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OK then I will remove the words "easiest and symplest"
No doubt CF-Root is the best and simplest for those who already started using the Odin.
CF Root method :
1) Get into Download mode
2) Open ODIN, select the file
3) Connect phone and select start
4) Done in under 30 secs
Much easier than this "unlockroot" method...
This may not be the easiest way to get root for us.
But for somebody who doesn't know what odin is, Windows user who doesn't even know there is a download and recovery mode on their phones.
Or for someone who doesn't want to mess up with jigs and flash counters.
For them, this could be the easiest way to root and unroot their phones.
That people will find this usefull, others should shut up.
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This may not be the easiest way to get root for us.
But for somebody who doesn't know what odin is, Windows user who doesn't even know there is a download and recovery mode on their phones.
Or for someone who doesn't want to mess up with jigs and flash counters.
For them, this could be the easiest way to root and unroot their phones.
That people will find this usefull, others should shut up.
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LOL.Well done mate!i mean even if you haven`t tried yet how do you know what da hell is this?do not comment and please shut up.Also i have rooted my old htc desire with similar method and it took less then 1 min without a hassle.it could be useful for someone.
I know a couple of people who used this on there galaxy S and they've not had any problems.
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People can root their device using any method they want.
When you tell people who have helped many many users unbrick their device to shut up Im guessing you are saying leave it to you to help from now on since you know more than them.
Thanks mate mighty good of you.
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Android is all about alternatives. And this is a very good alternative.
So just cause most of you prefer one method does not make this an invalid choice!
So seriously if you have nothing productive to say, maybe you guys should shut it!
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This actually looks a lot easier than CF root... Reminds me of superoneclick.
I posted this like a month ago and got myself banned for this, it worked for me anyways, doesnt work on ICS though
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So seriously if you have nothing productive to say, maybe you guys should shut it!
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Lmfao
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thank you
thanks for the good link~!
i use the siyah kernel. so actually, i don`t need any tool for rooting my sgs2.
but this tool is good i think.
Don't work on Brazilian's 2.3.6 rom!
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Don't work on Brazilian's 2.3.6 rom!
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Hmmm, thanks for information, dont try on 2.3.6
Mine was shipped with 2.3.5 stock
thanks
This project stole code from jcase.
Closed.
Hi all,
I pre ordered my 16gb nexus 7 last week.
And I am thinking I will root it as soon as it arrives, but I have the following worries/questions:
If I root and unlock the bootloader, will I still get ota updates?
If I root and unlock the bootloader, is it possible to re-root it and re-lock the bootloader for warranty purposes?
Is the a large chance of bricking it by rooting it? Or is it quite safe now?
Is the any real reason why I shouldn't root it?
Sorry for all these questions, but I am currently using a rooted galaxy s2, and that comes with the bootloader pre-unlocked, so I am not familiar with locked bootloader lol
Thanks in advance for any help
Cheers corey
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Ps,
I also noticed that the are a few methods of rooting the n7, does anyone know which method that installs Cwm permanently is best?
Cheers
Corey
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Yes you will be still able to get OTA updates, though you may will lose root after an OTA. It's only when you begin flashing alternate recoveries, kernels, ROMs etc. will you lose the ability to receive OTAs.
I'm not sure what you mean by re-root again (maybe you mean unroot??). But from the Nexus trend, you will be able to relock the bootloader after unlocking it (though I don't see a point unless you're about to return it). Regarding the unroot thing, all you have to do is just reflash the stock ROM or just remove the su binary and the su management application (SuperSU or Superuser).
It's relatively safe to say that you can root it without bricking your tablet. These days, it's pretty hard to actually brick your device unless you do something absolutely moronic i.e. flash the wrong bootloader.
Well, to answer your question, do you need root? If you don't need it nor do you understand what its purpose is, don't. Some uses include being able to access /system/ to maybe delete bloatware (there shouldn't be any on a Nexus device), some apps may get further functionality e.g. some apps might intentionally auto-turn on your GPS when you've lost your phone etc.
Clockwork recovery is totally separate to root. A recovery is used to flash things e.g. root, ROMs, kernels etc. When CWR is released for the Nexus 7, all you have to do is run "fastboot flash recovery <name of recovery>.img" (well that's what I'd run since I'm using Linux).
Hi,
Yes I did mean unroot lol, I was typing it from my phone lol.
Ok thanks heaps, I will root it as soon as it arrives lol.
And yes I know all about root, I have a galaxy s2 which has been rooted a year, and I spend most of my day flashing mods and roms lol. I just wasn't familiar with locked bootloader.
But you said that if I flash recoveries I won't receive ota updates, so if I flash Cwm recovery, will I not receive ota updates?
Thanks heaps for all your help
Cheers
Corey
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fishingfon said:
Hi,
Yes I did mean unroot lol, I was typing it from my phone lol.
Ok thanks heaps, I will root it as soon as it arrives lol.
And yes I know all about root, I have a galaxy s2 which has been rooted a year, and I spend most of my day flashing mods and roms lol. I just wasn't familiar with locked bootloader.
But you said that if I flash recoveries I won't receive ota updates, so if I flash Cwm recovery, will I not receive ota updates?
Thanks heaps for all your help
Cheers
Corey
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Ahh righteo, a locked bootloader just means you can't flash anything. And yes, you are correct, if you flash any recovery that isn't stock and matches with the build of Android, you will lose the ability to receive OTAs.
No worries .
Can it be rooted from a Mac book?? (My bros not mine lol) I always root my devices ..never had a tablet nor a nexus so just wondering..if I can I'll figure the rest
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Can it be rooted from a Mac book?? (My bros not mine lol) I always root my devices ..never had a tablet nor a nexus so just wondering..if I can I'll figure the rest
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Yep, it can be rooted on all the main OS's.
that is the question.
opinions?
Well...of course root!!! Samsung will never even know after a simple Odin back to stock
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Instant root! You will get more options like ad block and so on
Root dude get rid of that bloatware
yeah !! overclock and underclock!! remove bloatware and use flash zips + backup via CWM
root or die!
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that is the question.
opinions?
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you shouldn't root your phone if you have to ask.
Root all the (Android) things!
There's no reason to NOT root a device, there are tons of reasons TO root.... Hell, my PC running Bluestacks right now has been rooted! Hacked that SOB to run whatever size "SD card" I want it to have, just because it was possible
Rooting for sure, can't live without adblocking now especially how ridiculous the ads are becoming.
Yep +1, I'll be rooted within minutes of receiving mine. As usual.
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Yep +1, I'll be rooted within minutes of receiving mine. As usual.
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Well same here haha. Even if there are no ROMs available when I first get it, I'll just deodex, zip align and remove all the bloatware ASAP
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Just hoping Samsung will not make further improvements against resetting the flash counter...
ROOT ROOT ROOT!! Coz it's really fRUITfUL :thumbup:
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If you find the need to
I'll root but just for Cerberus and ad block, I like the Samsung stuff
Always rooted my devices. The s4 will have the same fate!
I managed to run the app on root with stock rom/kernel but would like a workaround for it..
Is there any way to hide custom kernels/roms temporarily like how OTARootkeeper does it for root status?
Or to rephrase it, are there any custom kernels and roms which are not detectable?
No
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Nope.
Whoever made that possible would deserve the Nobel prize
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Whoever made that possible would deserve the Nobel prize
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lol :good: