I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.
I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?
It doesn't, but that's my opinion. And trust me, our opinion is the minority. I run stock 2.3.4 rooted with all system apps frozen, but i leave blur as is. It's never bothered me. Love the messaging app, the universal inbox, the connected music player, the built in photo editor, the call log and contact list, and the dialer.
Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back
me, it's the other way around, I started on blur and go to vanilla or sense and I'm like "what? where is this supposed to be?" And I don't see why they hate blur still, the atrix version is so much lighter than the original, the launcher is tiny, the UI is so much more clean..
againareku said:
Once you unlock bootloader and root, remove all the preloaded apps, switch your kernel, apply a theme, flash the new radio...it's amazing. Lots of people started out on either Sense [HTC] or vanilla android so for them there's not going back
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Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?
The Blur sucks, coz' it sucks....
Just as the TouchWiz sucks, and the LG interface sucks....
The only UI that works good is the Sense, and its problem that it is heavy like a fat lady! Only if you have a strong device it will not interfere with the normal use, otherwise it will cause lags and so.
I personally prefer vanilla roms on all the above, it is the best and lightest of all. and adding to it the Go Launcher will yield a superfast device with all the goods from all the other UI.
Again this is my personal thoughts, it doesnt necessarily means it right, just that it is what I like
saiftheboss7 said:
Rooted & will soon unlock the bootloader. I've plan to install CM7 once it gets stable releases. BTW whats the radio thing?
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Unlock the bootloader first
then you want to do with kernel, I switched from faux to clemsyn because of the lag [but both are great, try both, run your own tests and pick which one works best]
Remember with the kernels pick the enhance 1.0 ghz for att, not the cm7 ones
the radio is in the fruit cake thread, look up the 2.3.5 one and flash it, should help with wifi wake and signal...since you are clean I would go ahead and do the whole 2.3.5 fruit cake
I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix. I use it on the backflip, the cliq xt, but I find it to be less responsive than stock and maybe it's just me but the image quality itself looks better on stock
the good thing is once you are unlocked and have the right recovery installed, switching between all of these is very easy, so whatever you like best shouldn't be hard to go back to
againareku said:
I'm in the minority of opinion, but cm7 doesn't really add anything to the atrix.
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O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.
saiftheboss7 said:
I've been using Android for just a week. My first android is Motorola Atrix.
I haven't used any other Android set. So I can't compare which is better. Besides, I've read so many many bad/worst reviews of Motoblur! Why MOTOBLUR Sucks?
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Blur used to have a confusing and shockingly sluggish UI. However, with the 2.3 update Motorola completely redid blur and now its much better. Its still a little slower than vanilla, but its actually usable now. A lot of the hate was over the old version and what's left is from sense fanboys or people who hate skins in general.
Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I don't like manufacture skins myself.
Anybody knows how to erase a motoblur account? I don't use it anymore. Thanks.
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There is no right or wrong on this.
Just personal opinion, it is your phone after all you do what you want and set it up that best suites you.
I tend to go along with most of the other posters on this thread. I have used CM7 on HTC's and Samsung's as I really do not like their stock interfaces.
Before buying the Atrix I thought Blur would be the same and on launch it was but we couldn't do a lot about it as we had a locked bootloader.
By the time CM7 was launched we had a few ROM's on Gingerbread and much to my surprise I tend to find myself using Blurred ROM's in preference to CM7. This is by no way knocking CM7 as it is fantastic and the work the Dev's on here have put into it is awesome but for me there are upsides to Blur.
The Social Messaging widget and all in one Messaging are things that I have become reliant on. SocialScope may provide an alternative to Social Messaging but it isn't as yet as well crafted.
Do I have a backed up copy of CM7 on my SD Card ? Of course. I switch regularly but Blurred Aura is my daily driver.
Remember that we are the vast minority of people that have this phone and there are thousands of people out there that running stock happily. That is fine you seem to be bitten by the same bug that others that visit and post here though in wanting to see what the device is capable of. Do that but remember it is your phone and your set up is yours. Doesn't matter what opinion I hold or anybody else.
Yeah one thing is for sure! The old backflip blur was completely horrible but the newer atrix blur really is a hell of a lot better! I think basically everyone has gotta admit that! Blur has definetly improved since its inception! I dealt with the old blur and it sucked bad!!
As far as cm7 or blur?? I use both. I keep a nandroid backup of darkside with a little blur and cm7 and switch between them depending what I have need for at the moment. I like having all options available.
The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.
Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.
And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.
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O rly? That's the least informed opinion of CM I have ever heard.
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What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
JdgM3NT4L said:
The older MotoBlur that was included on the phone when it first rolled out did suck. Badly. But with the 2.3.4 update Motorola toned Blur down. At least visually. And in my experience the new version doesn't impact the battery as bad as the last one did. It is now easier to use and looks more 'Android'. I was a Blur hater. But now I am good with it.
Apologies to the op for this. I'm not trying to hijack the thread or change focus. But I am positively curious.
And, I know that this is a loaded question, and that I am asking for some serious CM7 user backlash type trouble by posting it... But wth, I'll bite.
What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
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Notification bar switches
Lockscreen option
Audio options
Performance options/enhancements
Comes free of bloatwear
Application permission filtering
Tweaks to UI
Oh and a trackpad (use of fingerprint reader as navigation trackpad on weekly 2&3)
@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!
First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.
Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?
This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
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@OP Use another Android device or 2 and you'll see why MOTOBLUR SUCKS!
First its the only software that's an absolute SLOTH. The bloat eats memory and slows down a dual core to single core at times.
Second Motoblur tries to control too much on MY PHONE. Whoyle I have to create a Moroblur account in order to receive software upgrades? Why should I have to enter a password into my phone if I change my SIM?
This will be my one and only Motoblur phone. If Motorola drops the MB BS, then I'm completely on board. If not, pass...
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You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory
The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram
And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]
It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail
I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone!
btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also!
saiftheboss7 said:
I'm waiting for CM7 stable release! Can't wait to put it on my phone!
btw I like the stock 2.3.4 ROM also!
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If your BL is unlocked you can try the weekly from the 23/11, its very stable and has nice features (FP scanner workes for unlock and as trackball).
here is the link:
http://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/downloads/list
Have fun
Well.....Blur does suck harder than a collapsed star...but it has some useful things to it including social media,ofcourse I don't use any of that so I went over to CM7.Blur is just really slow and bloated especially when you don't want to use any of the included apps and stuff,now if you love the features blur brings then by all means stay there then but if you want a stock android experience and want performance at the cost of a few apps here and there try some of the de-blurred roms or maybe cm7 if you want extra goodies
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What exactly does CM7 add to the Atrix? I mean, really add. Unless they've turned on the fm radio or something...
Just to clarify, I've got Cyanogen on 3 devices. I also used to have it on my Atrix. But with the 2.3.4 update the new MotoBlur Gingerbread style was great enough for me especially with the revamp of Blur that I didn't go back. And so far the only device that has had a new, originally unsupported, feature magically appear because I installed CM7, is my Nook Color. And boy did it ever ADD features!
But my phones... not so much. Mainly kinda lose stuff. But it was so worth it to get rid on that HORRID htc sense ui on the Aria. And in fairness I did get fm radio on my Backflip, so I guess it is two devices that got some added features. Although it did lose the trackpad. So that's kinda even. But my Atrix only lost stuff. Nothing new. So, out of genuine curiosity, what did I miss????
I look forward to reading an answer. It has the potential to make me consider flashing CM7 again, depends on what has been 'added'.
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Just a teaser of what CM REALLY ADDS to the Atrix:
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
btw I took this screenshot with CM natively by holding down the 'power' button, no third party app needed.
If MOTOBLUR sucked any harder, I'd orgasm.
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againareku said:
You said it yourself, the bloat eats memory
The bloat is put there by AT&T not Motorola. With everything unessential frozen idle I have 500-600 mb free ram
And the motoblur account is for universal inbox, social media intergration, and FREE security features [that you would otherwise pay for $2-$10 a month]
It's as stupid about complaining that you need to sign up for a google account to download apps, use the google nav, or check your gmail
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Funny that I don't have to deal with any of that BS on my SGS. I am the farthest thing from being a Samsung fanboy, and I use both of my phones equally. With that said, it's night and day difference of what goes on with both phones.
BTW I don't have AT&T I have Bell, and there's really not that much carrier bloat from them. The bloat that "was" there I have frozen with TiBu...
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So at first when I switched to the AOSP 1.6 ROM I was a little bummed that my beautiful phone was now...ugly. But! After a while I found little things, here and there, that slowly but surely began to make 1.6 better and better:
This is using a combination of metamorph (and various themes), Home++ and the HTC_IME keyboard (ported over from 1.5)
If you're on the fence between 1.6 and 1.5, let this be your nudge! I think my phone looks better now than it did even with Sense and it's a heck of a lot faster too!
I'm just really excited about this that's all. Anyone else manage to get 1.6 lookin' good?
Though I'm happy to hear that you've successfully switched -- I'd like to say that the majority of the people here probably didn't switch yet, because of few reasons (so far that I know of). Apparently 1.6 seems to not allow some people to use SMS and/or Bluetooth? If this has been fixed, then great -- I'd like to try it out. Otherwise, I don't know that I want to spend 10 minutes switching real quick, just to test SMS. I don't use bluetooth, so that wouldn't be a problem for me, though Home++ looks sweet!!. How have things gone for you?
if i could get 7 homescreens on 1.6 i'd jump in a heartbeat because of metamorph.
Ya I almost droped back down to 1.5 because I didn't have Sense, but now I'm using GDE and the better keyboard app. Hey how did you get the bootscreen changed on it?
If you want more info on Home++, here is their official page: link.
I love home++
There's a sweeter home beta to spruce it up to, but I would rather have eclair sense. It just looks so smooth, hard to beat. I was at my it dept today andran onto q fellow xda'er with a nexus. I'm jealous. Sucks that most of the sickest phones are on gsm, and cdma comes behind 6mo to never. Here I sit with Sprint though. Love the speed and data plan. Dangit.
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if i could get 7 homescreens on 1.6 i'd jump in a heartbeat because of metamorph.
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There is a metamorph 2.0 extension pack that has an extended home app that allows you up to 10 home screens. It also allows landscape homescreen which is pretty cool.
I will get the links from another thread and post them back here in a minute.
Update:
Here is the link to the Metamorph 2.0 stock theme : http://android-stock-theme.googlecode.com/files/Android-2.0-Stock-Theme-v1.2.zip
And the Add on that will give you the 10 screens as well as some other extras: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=274033&d=1264741520
The best part is that it looks and acts like a stock AOSP 1.6/2.0 rom without any of the wierd behaviors of the other home replacements.
Thanks to Gregalous for the Links !
this is the exact set up I was going to do. the only thing that was stopping me was the constant syncing gmail, cal and stuff on aosp 1.6. Is that still an issue?
I do. If I were to switch to 1.6 I would end up building my own custom version and frankly I've spent enough time with my 1.5 rom.
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if i could get 7 homescreens on 1.6 i'd jump in a heartbeat because of metamorph.
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worrrdd..me too lol
menzo44 said:
this is the exact set up I was going to do. the only thing that was stopping me was the constant syncing gmail, cal and stuff on aosp 1.6. Is that still an issue?
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AOSP 1.6 never had constant syncing issue.
so i tried this with home++ and i gotta say, it was really awesome. but i STILL ended up going back to 1.5 sense because i missed htc's widgets too much. three of my homescreens are all htc sense widgets... i just can't live without em!
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worrrdd..me too lol
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You can! If you dont want to use a new home app then you can get AdvancedLauncher.apk (available in many metamorph themes) allows you to change the number of home screens among other things
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so i tried this with home++ and i gotta say, it was really awesome. but i STILL ended up going back to 1.5 sense because i missed htc's widgets too much. three of my homescreens are all htc sense widgets... i just can't live without em!
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Same thing happened to me. Also syncing contacts with facebook and posting from "HTC Sense" made me feel special.
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AOSP 1.6 never had constant syncing issue.
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well I'm not sure what I was thinking of. I guess maybe aosp 2.01? I don't know but I am sure glad you cleared it up for me! I have spent all morning getting it all hooked up and this is exactly what I was wanting. The 1.6 market is reason enough for me! it is light years better than 1.5 market.
I have quiet's 1.6 with gbhil's Googlebits, superuser, and quiet's headset fix. Everything works besides BT, don't care personally.
I have quiet's 1.6 with gbhil's Googlebits, superuser, and quiet's headset fix. Everything works besides BT, don't care personally.
My browser double posted, sorry.
I didnt even think about not having facebook sync until you mentioned it, and I was going to try this out tonight lol.
Is it real bad without it? I have a little hatred in me for contacts without pictures, thats the main thing I guess, dont really use the whole updates and all that tab as it runs kinda slow when I can just use an app. Is there anyway to pull pictures down without Sense?
Also, I hope no one minds me asking this here but I just want to make sure im going to do this right if I do.
Im currently running fresh 1.1 with Modoco's custom kernel and 2.1 icons and want to try out AOSP 1.6
So I should:
1. Create a backup
2. Wipe my phone (will this remove root access forcing me to reroot?)
3. Flash AOSP 1.6
4. Can I load in Modocos custom kernel?
5. Get metamorph etc going blah blah
Any help is appreciated thanks.
now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
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now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
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You can't just disable sense, it IS the UI and for all intents (lol) and purposes, the OS. Vanilla Google Android 2.1 is a different kernel than Android HTC Sense 2.1, so it has to be replaced, lock stock and barrel. Go over and look at the Dream forums, the Sense&Espresso camp is quite different from the Donut, Eclair, Froyo camp. If you've ever used linux, the difference between Gnome distros and KDE distros is a pretty apt (lol) comparison. They can run each others' programs (usually), but they are built up from the kernel differently. So like the other dude said, just wait a sec
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Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
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There's some serious work to be done unless we get some test keys. Don't think that customs ROMs will be coming within the next week.
You can start by using a different launcher. I like launcherpro from the market. Its really nice and fast compared to sense. Once you install a new launcher, make sure you set it as your default and then reboot your phone.
You can also remove a lot of sense apps while in recovery. Just be careful what you remove. Some things are needed or your phone will boot loop or you might get a mess if fc's upon rebooting. you might want to try just renaming them first to see if there is any bad side effect before actually removing it. You can also copy the apps you remove to your phone for backup purposes. Be careful 'cuz I am not responsible for you bricking your phone.
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So we basically we should just wait for a fresh 2.1 rom from one of our devs, Ill just sit here and twittle my thumbs in the mean time
If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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I agree with you all I want is simple android 2.1 (or 2.2) without all the verizon crap they feel I need on my phone
Just use AWD or Launcher Pro... you won't see anything sense related using those unless you hunt for it.
if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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I have used both.... and after giving sense a try and not listening to others.... I actually prefer it over vanilla... everything works better imo with better integration.
...and thats fine for you...but not really correct to say that a Launcher will remove the feel of Sense. There is enough room in this world for Coke AND Pepsi...as well both Vanilla and Sense roms
Cyanogen based ROMs are the best. Sense sucks ... IMO.
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I "replaced" my SenseUI with ADW, and it works great. I say "replaced" because by installing ADW or Launcher Pro, you're only replacing the UI part of Sense. Sense will still run underneath. Until custom ROMs come (which won't happen until we get an unlocked NAND), that's what we've got.
I am really looking forward to getting Froyo. I came from a Moto Droid where I had just recently installed Froyo, and it was so fast. I actually like the Incredible more because of the better screen and lighter feel with no keyboard, but the Droid was so much faster on Froyo it almost makes me want to go back until they get the Incredible figured out.
I think if you came from WinMo and are used to Sense then you will like it on Android. If not then most will hate it.
Not to clutter this post or change subject
I dont see you you can say the screen on the incredible is better. I have both and I still think the Moto droids screen is better higher res and easier to see in sunlight. again its my opinion.
Dont get me wrong they are very close in resolution but the Moto droid is slightly higher. Inside with no sun on them they are very close I'll give it that.
Now I know they don't have 4G but everything works with Sense. Can we get this ported?
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Is it really nessecary? Ava-FroyoV2 already has Sense and everything but BT and 4G working. I would expect it to be more work to port this than just have Ava fix BT and have basically the same.
Given the similarities between the Evo and Inc, the 2.2 update should be right around the corner. Also remember that Verizon is notorious for long testing before a software update.
Having said that, I'm sure a Dev will figure out a way to port this over.
But we already have CyanogenMod with everything but 4G working.
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The advantage of using the Incredible's 2.2 over the current 2.2 Sense that we have is that it will work better with what we have. The other one we have is for the Desire. So, for instance, the camera may work better. If it has a newer kernel we may be able to use that, etc. So, yeah, I'd say it would be worth porting over. Either way, I'm sticking with CM6 as I have missed Cyanogen since my days with the G1.
Well I suppose we'll have to wait again for the new kernel's source code, hopefully it doesn't take as long this time.
There is more issues with that rom then those listed, for example exchange doesn't setup correctly
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Is it really nessecary? Ava-FroyoV2 already has Sense and everything but BT and 4G working. I would expect it to be more work to port this than just have Ava fix BT and have basically the same.
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I would like to see a port of it. I like the Stock look with the speed under the hood.
Is it an unpopular opinion to actually like SenseUI around here? I vastly prefer Sense over the stock UI, TouchWiz and MotoBlur.
Unfortunately, since CyanogenMod has just about everything working, the only real improvements for the EVO that could be pulled out of the Droid Incredible's code is the FM radio, assuming they're even the same chip(which, without doing some research, I highly doubt).
From what I have seen and played with Sense is pretty nice, but I really like the look/feel of ADW.Launcher and Stock apps myself.
To each their own.
Although an official HTC Release of 2.2 would be interesting to see performance wise.
I like sense as well but I am not married to it, but I don't see why all the hate
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Sense has some really good apps like music and email. Don't argue with me about music app. It is by far the smoothest and streamed lined music player for android. Even froyo music is a piece of crap. Google really need to work on the music players for Android. iPhone and.most likely the Zune based Windows Mobile 7 music player are/will be vastly superior.
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Sense isn't bad, but it's not as useful for me. There are maybe one or two widgets that I'd like to have, but with all the other bulkiness it's not worth it. Like the 3 button dock. I'd much rather have the ADW where I can put 4 shortcuts plus the drawer. Once I tried CM6, I don't think I can go back to Sense.
It's all about preference.
The only thing I liked about Sense was the Mail/Exchange app. At least it gave me the option to select and delete multiple items at a time. With the current e-mail app (Froyo) i have to "tick" each e-mail, kinda tedious when you have over a hundren e-mails you want to delete at a time.
I don't plan on flashing a 2.2 rom until I know 4g works. I'd rather be able to use the service I'm paying for.
cosine83 said:
Is it an unpopular opinion to actually like SenseUI around here? I vastly prefer Sense over the stock UI, TouchWiz and MotoBlur.
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Sense is just a pretty pointless bit of eyecandy that vastly slows down updates received by HTC phones. It is completely tangled up in the OS, and it just slows things down and provides very limited customization due to its closed-source nature. AOSP Android is extremely fast and smooth, and you are free to add all of the eyecandy and additional apps you want.
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Sense is just a pretty pointless bit of eyecandy that vastly slows down updates received by HTC phones. It is completely tangled up in the OS, and it just slows things down and provides very limited customization due to its closed-source nature. AOSP Android is extremely fast and smooth, and you are free to add all of the eyecandy and additional apps you want.
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While I do agree with you, I really wish there were Marketplace equivalents of some of the HTC widgets (Email, Bookmarks, and NewsReader in particular). Pure Messenger is the closest I've found to the HTC email widget but after spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get it set up the way I like, I gave up. And, don't get me started on my K9/Exchange integration issues.
And, I'm a geek! I can only imagine the frustration the average non-techie, Android owner without a Sense phone goes through.
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While I do agree with you, I really wish there were Marketplace equivalents of some of the HTC widgets (Email, Bookmarks, and NewsReader in particular). Pure Messenger is the closest I've found to the HTC email widget but after spending an inordinate amount of time trying to get it set up the way I like, I gave up. And, don't get me started on my K9/Exchange integration issues.
And, I'm a geek! I can only imagine the frustration the average non-techie, Android owner without a Sense phone goes through.
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Well final-damn-ly, somebody without their head stuck up their ass realizes this lol. But really, they did a good job with the widgets and to me are worth more than the hassles i have to put up with. And don't forget copy/paste; stock google's is the most godawful take on copypasta i've ever seen. While I've gotten used to launcher pro plus, returning back to sense would definitely be a welcome home for me.
I agree that Sense, although a resource hog, has the best widgets. Just wish I could use wiimote.
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I did my best to get used to CM6, and I was sad to find that a lot of people, especially on the IRC channel, were not quite tolerant of my ex-Sense habit, and sadly, I ended up leaving CM6 because of that. It's not just the people on IRC, there are a few reasons why I think Sense is superior, so agree with them or not, here they are
The 9 reasons I use Sense UI; keep in mind this is a comparison between stock AOSP and stock Sense UI. No alterante launchers, mods, widgets, apps, or themes.
1. The Sense clock app just looks far better to me, and is also far more functional. I have not had a good experience with AOSP's clock app at all.
2. I don't like Ubuntu. I never liked the way it looked; it had and always seems to have this "accessibility over design" look to it. When I see AOSP android, that's exactly what I see. Ugly, unrefined Android. Just my opinion, maybe not the best of reasons, but it's just what I've come to find from experimenting with both.
3. The Lockscreen is simply elegant; and I prefer not to have any sort of slider or buttons on my lockscreen. I also do not like the way the font is displayed on the AOSP one. It looks a bit tacky and does not match the rest of Android.
4. The Sense Launcher has something that so far, I can't seem to find from any other launcher; G-Sensor screen switching. No matter what screen I'm on, I just give my phone a quick shake, and I can see them all. AOSP doesn't let you do that, as far as I know. Believe it or not, I prefer this more than hitting the menu button; I do not have to take my thumb off the side of my phone.
5. The AOSP keyboard; in all honesty, it's just too slow and feels very flat. The text prediction gets to be too confusing, and using the space bar only helps until you don't mean to add a period after a word and then typing becomes a chore. I also do not like how I have to hit a seperate key to show all the alternate letters and punctuation. The sense keyboard allows me to simply press and hold to get that lettter.
6. The Sense Widgets: Simply put, I don't WANT to pay 2.99 for BW when I have excellent widgets already available to me. The Clock widget is a must, as is the messaging Widget. Why should I have to pay for Launcher Pro Plus when I already have these (I bought LPP before coming to this realization). Perhaps if TweetDeck ends up introducing a proper widget that can compete with Friendstream, then I can consider switching.
7. The Sense Dialer; When I turn on my phone, and I want to quickly dial a contact, all I have to do is open up the dialer and start spelling the contact's name out through the dialpad keys. Does AOSP's dialer let you do this? Sadly, it does not . Instead, I have to go through the phone app to get to the Contact list, then press search, wait for the search bar to appear, and then start to type out the name on the terrible on screen keyboard, and then click again to get to a contact's page, and then press on the dial button. Again, I know about DIaler One, I have not had good experiences with it, nor am I including it in this comparison.
8. Contact management; One of the things that you can't do with AOSP and have to do in the GMail interface is being able to add contacts into groups other than just Favorites. With Sense, I can have as many groups as I want, which is useful, since I can have widgets of just one group of Contacts. It also helps me discern phone numbers from people who I only temporarily need to have, such as Project A, Camping Group B, etc etc.
9. The Calender app: The Sense Calender sorts my different details about a calender date into little sections, the AOSP one just bunches all the details up together, making it far more annoying to discern different things.
All in all, no my phone performs extremely well and runs quite fast (Zen-Rom Alpha 5) and gets terrific battery life. I can even use JIT on it, whether or not it really is noticeable. It's elegant, it's clean, professional, and just a joy to use. Sense is to Android as Apple is to Software; refinement and polish.
This is by no means a jab at you CM6 themers and skinners, your work is amazing and gives Stock Android what it needs. I'm just here to share my experiences as to why I use and love Sense, and when we manage to get it ported to Froyo, I will be happy to switch up to 2.2
First off I agree that sense is great. I hated giving up all the widgets like you said. But, I,m a practical person and a phone shortcut on the rosie is redundant, im my opinion, when you have a hardware key that works just fine. Don't get wrong, because if i did NOT have the hardware key, the rosie would be the $h!t. I also find it redundant to have two clocks on the screen. That could have come in handy in Iraq when I had a 9 hr time difference, but now, not so much. AOSP, in short, is more practical to me. There are hundreds of sense base clocks and a lot of them are free. And the ones that aren't can be "acquired" anyway. ADW has some kick a$$ sliders and cm6 has a sense theme that looks just like the mother humper. Really don't get what the deal is but to each his own i guess. Then again, your a senior mem so I'm pretty sure you know more than me.
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First off I agree that sense is great. I hated giving up all the widgets like you said. But, I,m a practical person and a phone shortcut on the rosie is redundant, im my opinion, when you have a hardware key that works just fine. Don't get wrong, because if i did NOT have the hardware key, the rosie would be the $h!t. I also find it redundant to have two clocks on the screen. That could have come in handy in Iraq when I had a 9 hr time difference, but now, not so much. AOSP, in short, is more practical to me. There are hundreds of sense base clocks and a lot of them are free. And the ones that aren't can be "acquired" anyway. ADW has some kick a$$ sliders and cm6 has a sense theme that looks just like the mother humper. Really don't get what the deal is but to each his own i guess. Then again, your a senior mem so I'm pretty sure you know more than me.
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I certainly agree about the Phone button being redundant. I have already remapped mine, but I find myself not really ever using the middle button anyway, so it doesn't bother me.
Yes, I know, I did the whole "Fancy Widget" routine and found it to be inaccurate compared to the Weather app itself, and was of lower resolution than the regular one.
The problem isn't just coloring the titlebar black and using Fancy Widget, the problem is the rest of the widgets have no equals, and the rest of the apps excepting the HTC IME mod have no equal either. The dialer on AOSP, I maintain, is still utterly terrible and incredibly inefficient.
The one thing i like is the fact that from the contacts i can add the birthday. It is so nice that i can say " ok spell your name first and last. Now your number, and now your birthday. " it just makes it so much more personal. Especially when you drop them a text on the birthday. Yeah for brownie points. Not to mention the MMS that i the reason i stopped using a AOSD rom. I still mantain all the respect in the world to the rom developers just i ,like you, prefer Sence based rom
I don't know about being a wimp for using a sense rom..I just think it is an individuals preference and opinion to what they have on their phones.
I agree the dialer on my phone isn't the greatest,and would love to have it respond faster to my touch,but that is about all I could ask for when it comes to it. As too the contact list.I want nothing to start making suggestions on who I wish to call for me. I can and much prefer to choose someone directly from it,and it is no different when using any sense rom.
The typewriter is flat..nothing that a sense rom can do to ever change that fact. If you want a true tactical feel then get a physical keyboard.. I do agree with you on this though..it isn't the most responsive keyboard I have ever used,but the stock sense keyboard to me is worse and laid out wrong from the start. I'll be glad when the swype keyboard is more readily available..even if it does wind up costing a few dollars.
Widgets..some cost $2.99 many though are free,and do exactly what they are supposed to do.
Again,it is all a personal choice on what a person has on their phone,and what they consider to be utilitarian or beautiful. As I see it,Ubuntu is refined and certainly is a breath of fresh air for those who enjoy having a nice theme on their phone. What can be added and taken away has a certain appeal for many people. My wife loves this look..
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Her needs wants and desires are far different than many others. She also wants her phone different than anyone else so she wants something that is clean..elegant..and yet sophisticated. She can have this with this home screen,and those icons.It isn't cluttered with anything,and is to her liking. To her and many like myself,having animated weather widgets is not needed or wanted,nor is having a boring ass flip clock wanted either.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder,just as we all set these phones up to our individual needs,wants,and desires. While having a sense rom is fine and works for many with everything it offers,it isn't the end all, for everyone else. It can be utilized for what ever we load on it regardless wither it is a sense based rom or not.Some here seem to forget that others have no need for all of the what a sense rom offers,and they also forget we all have different taste in decoration and different needs. Some have minimal needs but yet still like to customize their phone to their personal taste.Some here never use their phone for work,but others do,so their needs are much different.
In the end it is just a matter of personal taste,wants,and desires. If you feel a sense rom is the best..well..that is your opinion and certainly are entitled to it. I see being able to choose what we want on our phones as a more important topic than which is better..because this we can do,and not have to settle for what our carriers force upon us.
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I used to be a Die-hard sense fan.. but Now I like simple.. which is a few widgets..etc and nothing more.. and everything within reach of my finger.. 3 screens at the most..etc..
I'm a fan of the sense apps, but I prefer clean and simple on my home screen. So, I use launcher for the simple, clean look it provides and then I just go to my app folder and use the sense apps because the ROM I'm using is a sense-based ROM. It's like the best of both worlds. I can totally understand the OP's point of view and I don't like to pay for apps that do the same thing the sense apps do. So, I have just combined my likes from the two worlds and tried to remove the dislikes. All-in-all, I'm very pleased with the personalization the android platform offers, which I would risk saying is why most of us have the Hero in the first place.
Kudos to open forums and everyone getting to express their own personal opinions. And it's good to see no one flaming the OP for his!
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First I want to say that had it not been for CM6 I would still be using sense, but have had far better performance from this AOSP rom than with another Sense ROM. I use to love sense and would never give up its look and feel. Now if they can get a sense froyo rom that runs as smooth as CM6 I might actually use it. Most are looking for performance and speed. CM6 gives that to us.
The clock app beats the pants off of AOSP's pathetic and frankly, ugly one. Why should I have a pathetic looking clock that can't do half of what Sense's can, when I have all of those features tied into one and it looks professional?
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This depends on what you want your clock to do. I agree that the AOSP clock app isn't as visually pleasing, but I don't need a world clock or stopwatch or timer.
I don't like Ubuntu. I never liked the way it looked; it had and always seems to have this "accessibility over design" look to it. When I see AOSP android, that's exactly what I see. Ugly, unrefined Android.
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That is why there are themes and different launchers, just like you can do with ubuntu.
The lockscreen; forgive me if I'm being too literal here, but I was under the impression that a Lockscreen was made so that no phone interaction would happen accidentally. Why would I even want to risk having a slider that can silence my phone on my lockscreen? And again, the ugliness factor is just appalling. Everything is so big and bubbly.
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I have actually had more accidental answered calls with the sense lock screen when I pull my phone out of its holster. The stock htc sense lockscreen is the one that is visually appalling
The Sense Launcher has something that so far, I can't seem to find from any other launcher; G-Sensor screen switching. No matter what screen I'm on, I just give my phone a quick shake, and I can see them all. AOSP doesn't let you do that, as far as I know.
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are you to lazy to just press the home button. I think that shaking it is more of a show-off to other people
The AOSP keyboard; in all honesty, it's just too slow and feels very flat. The text prediction gets to be too confusing, and using the space bar only helps until you don't mean to add a period after a word and then typing becomes a chore.
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No matter what ROM i run i prefer swiftkey over aosp or htc. I do notice that the aosp does not have as much lag as HTC's
The Sense Widgets: Simply put, I don't WANT to pay 2.99 for BW when I have excellent widgets already available to me. The Clock widget is a must, as is the messaging Widget. Why should I have to pay for Launcher Pro Plus when I already have these (I bought LPP before coming to this realization)
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If you have it use it. Others don'w want sense and therefor pay for these apps. How much did that $2.99 hurt you?
The Sense Dialer; When I turn on my phone, and I want to quickly dial a contact, all I have to do is open up the dialer and start spelling the contact's name out through the dialpad keys. Does AOSP's dialer let you do this? Ha, one would wish. Instead, I have to go through the phone app to get to the Contact list, then press search, wait for the search bar to appear, and then start to type out the name on the terrible on screen keyboard, and then click again to get to a contact's page, and then press on the dial button.
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Dialer One does the same thing. I have a themed one since I didn't like the original look
Contact management; One of the things that you can't do with AOSP and have to do in the GMail interface is being able to add contacts into groups other than just Favorites. With Sense, I can have as many groups as I want, which is useful, since I can have widgets of just one group of Contacts.
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There are apps that will let you do thi.
The Calender app: The Sense Calender sorts my different details about a calender date into little sections, the AOSP one just bunches all the details up together, making it far more annoying to discern different things.
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I use calwidget which is free and there are also many more than do it to
Yes you have to download some app to do what sense does, but they still take up less space than all the sense crap. Just look at the size of CM6 + google apps and the size is half of the sense roms.
The wonderful thing about having an Android phone is that we can tailor the device to suit our individual tastes and preferences. It's kind of like being an American!
I love Sense UI and miss much of it now that I don't have it but, for me, the trade-off is worth it. I enjoy my phone now in ways I didn't believe would be possible.
For others who don't view Sense UI as creating problems, that's great!
No one will criticize someone for having their phone perform the way they want it to!
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I used to be a Die-hard sense fan.. but Now I like simple.. which is a few widgets..etc and nothing more.. and everything within reach of my finger.. 3 screens at the most..etc..
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This.
Plus, Sense = slower than molasses. CM6 = faster than a monkey on fire.
So, FOR MY NEEDS, CM6 >>>>>>>>>> Sense.
I use a Sense ROM but I really can't stand the slowness of opening and navigating the HTC contacts, messaging, calendar, clock, and music apps. They move at a snail's pace compared to their AOSP counterparts, which frankly navigate through menus almost instantly. So, I replaced all of these with the AOSP 2.1 versions (except for contacts, which is not really replaceable).
However I agree with the HTC dialer app being the best in terms of functionality.
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The wonderful thing about having an Android phone is that we can tailor the device to suit our individual tastes and preferences. It's kind of like being an American!
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THIS......
At least until the government mandates we all buy regular cell phones under the disguise of "free cell phones for all"
I don't see how the vanilla lockscreen is uglier than the Sense one at all. Never had a problem with unlocking or silencing the phone while in my pocket either, gotta thank the Menu button unlocking the phone being disabled by default for that..
I am a Sense user up until now. There are no disputde that sense + widgets are nice and available readily from HTC (That's what we paid for). Of course AOSP is different. It's an open source development and offer as plain as possible so that users can freely use any widgets and customize the phone the way they wanted. To me Sense is just a layer on top of the AOSP or another term it's just a Launcher that was written and customized by HTC.
Why am I walking away from the current 2.1 sense?
-It's simple CM6 Froyo 2.2 OS is faster than the current 2.1 OS.
-If I compared Sense 2.1 vs AOSP 2.1, I would pick Sense because the performance is the same but on the plus side is Sense package is readily available.
-If I compared Sense 2.1, AOSP 2.1 vs CM6 Froyo. Froyo is faster by a mile ( I am not talking about benchmark, i am talking about real time performance)
I only switched a way from sense 2.1 since CM6 was available as nightly and there are couple of times turned back to the latest Sense ROM but only to find that it was a disappointment in performance. You just need to be patient and find the right sense like widgets for your CM6 or wait until Sprint release Sense 2.2
Sorry to say this, but this is the most useless thread ever. You just stated an opinion... it doesn't help the board at all lol. But I personally use CM6 RC1 with my Sense theme on it. I use Fancy Widget and Calwidget, and it looks exactly like Sense, but has the complete customizablility of CM6.
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First I want to say that had it not been for CM6 I would still be using sense, but have had far better performance from this AOSP rom than with another Sense ROM. I use to love sense and would never give up its look and feel. Now if they can get a sense froyo rom that runs as smooth as CM6 I might actually use it. Most are looking for performance and speed. CM6 gives that to us.
This depends on what you want your clock to do. I agree that the AOSP clock app isn't as visually pleasing, but I don't need a world clock or stopwatch or timer.
That is why there are themes and different launchers, just like you can do with ubuntu.
I have actually had more accidental answered calls with the sense lock screen when I pull my phone out of its holster. The stock htc sense lockscreen is the one that is visually appalling
are you to lazy to just press the home button. I think that shaking it is more of a show-off to other people
No matter what ROM i run i prefer swiftkey over aosp or htc. I do notice that the aosp does not have as much lag as HTC's
If you have it use it. Others don'w want sense and therefor pay for these apps. How much did that $2.99 hurt you?
Dialer One does the same thing. I have a themed one since I didn't like the original look
There are apps that will let you do thi.
I use calwidget which is free and there are also many more than do it to
Yes you have to download some app to do what sense does, but they still take up less space than all the sense crap. Just look at the size of CM6 + google apps and the size is half of the sense roms.
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Thank you for COMPLETELY ignoring the very first part of my post, I appreciate your reading skills.
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Sorry to say this, but this is the most useless thread ever. You just stated an opinion... it doesn't help the board at all lol. But I personally use CM6 RC1 with my Sense theme on it. I use Fancy Widget and Calwidget, and it looks exactly like Sense, but has the complete customizablility of CM6.
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Oh? Is there supposed to be a purpose for each and every thread in the General Section? Fancy Widget is still just a widget, the Clock App and the Weather App from Sense don't come with it. Sense is not just about LOOKING good, it has the apps to back it up
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This.
Plus, Sense = slower than molasses. CM6 = faster than a monkey on fire.
So, FOR MY NEEDS, CM6 >>>>>>>>>> Sense.
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+1 very nicely said
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+1 very nicely said
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On an overclocked/undervolted kernel? Have you ever seen Zen-ROM? My guess is not.
Whats the with hostility in OP's post? lol
I suppose this one is for the folks that are new to rooting and custom ROMs in general. I should say from the start that I am NOT a developer. Just a flashaholic.
I started out as a big fan of HTC's sense UI. I still appreciate the spit and polish of the little details in their work and will flash a Sense based ROM just to have my FriendStream widget back for a day or two. The visual appeal is still a few steps ahead of the AOSP ROMs that are available. Sense is also easy to customize, for the parts that can be customized. HTC offers a fairly good variety of stuff and in my experience most of the apps that make your phone "prettier" are compatible with my Evo.
Things started to change for me the first time I tried out a MIUI ROM. I was astounded to find out the number of things that my phone was capable of that Sense either locked out or simply could not integrate successfully. I got frustrated with the bugs in the version of MIUI I was using at the time pretty quickly and bounced back over to another Sense ROM. It took about 48 hours before I was so annoyed with the lack of user discretion in actual system settings that I hopped back over to that Friday's release of MIUI. I like that ROM in the overall for the ease of flashing. Just download, wipe, flash and voila! You're ready to go. What I didn't like was the amount of infighting and chaos that the American team seemed to be struggling through. This does seem to have been resolved. Now I just want to see them iron out a few wrinkles caused by the leap to GingerBread.
I do want to mention here that I still have the utmost respect for the people who bring us MIUI every week. Thank you to Stiffspliff, who brings a fresh port to our Evos every weekend, and usually less than 24 hours after the Chinese team releases it!
That being said, I looked at flashing a Cyanogen ROM and at the time was frankly intimidated by what was needed to flash it. Initially I couldn't even figure out the difference between Stable, Nighly, Release Candidate and Experimental. So, again, back to Sense for a while and yet more reading. It should mentioned for the sake of the new folks reading this that I have done, and will continue to do, a TON of reading. I spent six months just lurking here at XDA before I tried rooting and still needed help on IRC. Many thanks to Eyeballer over there for getting me through that process. Once I had enough confidence flashing different ROMs I finally gave Cyanogen a shot and was truly bummed at the lack of "bling". So I flashed back almost immediately. Curiosity is what made me want to try another CM ROM. What I didn't know at the time was that Cyanogen truly shines under the skin. It finally made sense (no pun intended) when a senior member here made the comment that Sense was just dead-weight on what is already an incredibly efficient OS. The number and variety of elements that can be modified to an individuals tastes and needs is mind blowing. With the bug fixes that came out with 7.0.2 today there is very little about Sense that draws me back. Like I said at the top, my FriendStream widget is all I really miss, since Facebook's widget stinks. And I am still having trouble getting my Visual Voice Mail working, but I think that has more to do with my lack of knowledge than any inherent problems with Cyanogen. (Yes, I have tried the fixes posted here but I'm probably missing something obvious.)
In summary, in my long-winded sort of way, what brought me to Cyanogen was wanting to have access to the full capabilities of my phone, not just what HTC thought we should have. I do still like Sense and am interested to see what kind of improvements are coming down the pipe. However, if those improvements aren't absolutely exceptional I'll be sticking to Cyanogen ROMs as my daily driver.
Before anyone gets all hot and bothered I should also say that I know these Opinions are not universal. There are a number of experienced and talented devs who prefer Sense ROMs. This is just me sharing my experiences for people who are on the fence about trying out a ROM that is more AOSP than not. The great thing about the community here at XDA is that you have a huge variety of well supported ROMs to choose from. So if you haven't already, give Cyanogen a shot. If you don't like it, pick a different one and flash away! I would also like to hear about anyone else's opinions or experiences on the subject.
I agree, cm7 rocks
CM7 is definitely an incredible ROM and, as you mentioned, the seemingly endless amount of settings makes it difficult to use any other ROM. One of my favorite features is the long press volume up or down to change a song, I use this feature so much and no other ROM has this option. As far as VVM and FriendStream, try google voice and Launcher Pro paid. Launcher Pro mimics the calendar, friendstream, and email widgets of HTC Sense, but function slightly better.
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CM7 is definitely an incredible ROM and, as you mentioned, the seemingly endless amount of settings makes it difficult to use any other ROM. One of my favorite features is the long press volume up or down to change a song, I use this feature so much and no other ROM has this option. As far as VVM and FriendStream, try google voice and Launcher Pro paid. Launcher Pro mimics the calendar, friendstream, and email widgets of HTC Sense, but function slightly better.
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Thanks for the heads-up! I have heard of LP but didn't know that it included those features. I'll give it a shot for certain.
No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
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No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
Firstly, Holy Smokes! Those are some serious medical terms in your agenda. Med student? Second, do you really know someone over in Hotchkiss? The only reason I ask is because I grew up there and in Paonia for a few years. Tiny town that I never would have expected to see the name of here on XDA. If I'm being nosy just tell me to mind my own business. Great sig by the way.
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Your experience almost sounds like I could have written it. I went with mostly sense roms because I really didn't ahe the tech know how to feel comfortable with the "stripped down" AOSP roms. I installed cm one day and was, well, underwhelmed with the opening screen. I then went to Myn's 5, but found that 4g didn't work. I loved Myn's roms, but hated the idea of taking a step back to get a rom that had working 4g. Philly has 4g and since I'm paying for it, I want it! Then came the announcement that cm had working 4g. I gave it a try again. This time I was more patient and read, and then read some more. I found that I like Jorte's calendar better than the sense one. Then I found out how to put the clock and weather back on the main screen. Wasn't to my liking, but I made it work. Voicemail was a problem and I went to g-voice as many have suggest. It was okay, but kludgy for me. Then I discovered youmail. Very nice. My friends really like the custom greetings that it offers. Score! The other day Amazon had fancy widgets as their free paid app of the day. Well, as far as I'm concerned that was the missing piece for my home screen. With that installed I now have animated weather and clock running from one app again. Facebook still sucks, but its certainly no reason for me to go back to sense.
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mlin said:
No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
Firstly, Holy Smokes! Those are some serious medical terms in your agenda. Med student? Second, do you really know someone over in Hotchkiss? The only reason I ask is because I grew up there and in Paonia for a few years. Tiny town that I never would have expected to see the name of here on XDA. If I'm being nosy just tell me to mind my own business. Great sig by the way.
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Yeah, 1st year MD/PhD Student. And yeah, my wife's grandparents lived in Hotchkiss for about 10 years. My Hotchkiss friend on FB is the best friend of their youngest daughter.
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mlin said:
CM7 is definitely an incredible ROM and, as you mentioned, the seemingly endless amount of settings makes it difficult to use any other ROM. One of my favorite features is the long press volume up or down to change a song, I use this feature so much and no other ROM has this option. As far as VVM and FriendStream, try google voice and Launcher Pro paid. Launcher Pro mimics the calendar, friendstream, and email widgets of HTC Sense, but function slightly better.
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I love that feature too but it stopped working for me on my 3rd party music player.
mlin said:
No worries, here are a few screenshots. The widgets are themeable as well.
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What launcherpro theme is that?
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jxr94 said:
What launcherpro theme is that?
Delivered via my CyanogenModinized Supersonic
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m4rk0358 said:
I love that feature too but it stopped working for me on my 3rd party music player.
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What 3rd party music player do you use? I am using the MIUI music player and it still works.