How tough is it to go cdma as a cellphone lover? I truly can't find an advantage. It makes phone swapping pretty painful. I mean I would hate to have 29 sprint lines for each of my android/wp7/ios smartphones. How do you survive on cdma? I only ask because a friend of mine just switched and is having withdrawals already.
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How tough is it to go cdma as a cellphone lover? I truly can't find an advantage. It makes phone swapping pretty painful. I mean I would hate to have 29 sprint lines for each of my android/wp7/ios smartphones. How do you survive on cdma? I only ask because a friend of mine just switched and is having withdrawals already.
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withdrawals from what what do you mean lol iv only used cdma as back when I started I hated att phones n t mobile didn't have good service
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cool thanks for information
you dont need to have separate lines for separate phones, just switch which ESN you are using for each line.
If you are changing phones everyday or several times a day you don't want CDMA. But if it's like once a week or once a month it wouldn't be so bad. It's a 5 min call into customer care to have the ESN changed. VZW's LTE is mighty tempting...
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I swap out multiple times a day for one of my two devices. HTC phones just suck when it comes to battery life and build quality so the titan can't keep up with my lumia 800.
Actually I think I may have overlooked something... I know you can dial *228 and option 1 let's you program your phone. All you do is enter your phone number and account pw when prompted and the phone then reboots and upon completion of that it is active.
The only caveat is that it may need to be put into Verizon's system once manually by them. Even then, worst case scenario is that for every phone you'll need to have Verizon do it once, but afterword you'd be golden. The *228 deal takes only slightly longer than swapping SIMs. Food for thought.
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I wasn't aware. Now, if only Verizon would get some better wp7 devices.
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I wasn't aware. Now, if only Verizon would get some better wp7 devices.
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It is kind of hard to sell a carrier on MORE of an OS that has lost market share yet again in quarter 3...
Yeah, perhaps I'll just wait to see if they get any nokia WP7 offerings and open them up as my second carrier. T-mobile is getting annoying.
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It is kind of hard to sell a carrier on MORE of an OS that has lost market share yet again in quarter 3...
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The OS has lost no market share...
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The OS has lost no market share...
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Actually it has...2.4% in Q2 to 1.7% in Q3...
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You have a link? Every report I see says they have been falling since last spring.
The company has certainly lost marketshare. Winmo is dead and that was the majority of their share. WP7 has not lost market share, it is not the same OS. I expected Microsoft's market share as a whole to plummet until nokia started releasing WP7 devices. The nokia devices are doing absolutely outstanding.
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The company has certainly lost marketshare. Winmo is dead and that was the majority of their share. WP7 has not lost market share, it is not the same OS. I expected Microsoft's market share as a whole to plummet until nokia started releasing WP7 devices. The nokia devices are doing absolutely outstanding.
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1% is not outstanding...and nokia is only popular in Europe, but we know Europe is always behind when it comes to style..
1 percent in a week? I'd say that's pretty amazing. Android had that in what? It's first year? WP7 is hardly over a year old and is entering a much more competitive market than Android was. To call market share into play is petty at best, now, if you want to talk usability then it gets fun.
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1 percent in a week? I'd say that's pretty amazing. Android had that in what? It's first year? WP7 is hardly over a year old and is entering a much more competitive market than Android was. To call market share into play is petty at best, now, if you want to talk usability then it gets fun.
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Are you f##king kidding me? To talk market share is petty? These are multi-billion dollar companies, and you don't think they care about the market share when they have to sell the phones? Haha, tell a CEO that that is a petty argument. And yes, in its first year, it has LOST market share.
I am about to start "Occupy XDA": YOU ARE THE 1% Z33!
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Are you f##king kidding me? To talk market share is petty? These are multi-billion dollar companies, and you don't think they care about the market share when they have to sell the phones? Haha, tell a CEO that that is a petty argument. And yes, in its first year, it has LOST market share.
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Well who would have thought that an OS that died off 3 years ago would be cycling out? I guess if you've never signed a contract before you might be under that impression but to the other millions of us who've owned a cellphone, we know how that works. The OS is still gaining, and with the Lumia series essentially being WP7's "droid", the phone that is properly marketed and everything, it can't go anywhere but up. Everything on WP7 has increased much faster than any other mobile OS ever aside from Apple's market share when they were alone in the market.
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Well who would have thought that an OS that died off 3 years ago would be cycling out? I guess if you've never signed a contract before you might be under that impression but to the other millions of us who've owned a cellphone, we know how that works. The OS is still gaining, and with the Lumia series essentially being WP7's "droid", the phone that is properly marketed and everything, it can't go anywhere but up. Everything on WP7 has increased much faster than any other mobile OS ever aside from Apple's market share when they were alone in the market.
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How many times do you have to be told? Nokia will not catch on again in the United states. Europe is backwards when it comes to that stuff. And even in europe, who is going to pay over 400 euro for a Nokia that looks like an Ipod? Hehe, it is really funny to me though that you believe NOKIA to be your savior...
Mind sharing the similarities with an ipod? I really see none aside from the oval shaped bottom. With that in mind, there's many of those. There's no metal body, there's no real similarities. I don't care whether it catches on in the U.S. or not, it can catch on in Europe and get just as much support. Nokia pretty much runs the European and Asian market and that is a massive market. With their introduction of low-end smartphones to those markets after tango, WP7 has endless possibilities. Then of course the U.S. will eventually catch on, after all we're often the ones who are actually behind over here stateside.
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So, I know this isn't about the HTC Hero or anything, but if it needs to be moved or deleted so be it. It is off topic. I just wanted to discuss the first Android phone on AT&T. I think it just launched over the weekend. So, specs are very, how should I put it, out-dated for being a newly released phone.
528 MHz Qualcomm MSM7201a(same speed as our HTC Hero which came out over a year ago. Well, the GSM one anyways.)
172mb of storage for apps.(I think we have 159)
3.1 inch screen. (We have 3.2, yes?)
And get this, it only has Android 1.5!
Talk about a Backflip that lands you on your head. But that's not bugs me the most about AT&T's first Android phone...Get this, apps outside the Android Market are blocked/disabled. Yes, that's right. Disabled. Talk about iPhone mindset. That's kinda against what Android is about.
What do you guys think? AT&T trying to ruin people's first Android experience so they will switch to the iPhone?
**** that phone...
they've also made Yahoo its default search engine and email provider afaik
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they've also made Yahoo its default search engine and email provider afaik
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truth. completely eliminates why i would want a GOOGLE os phone
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**** that phone...
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lol, thats funny
It's a POS... thank GOD I jumped to Sprint to get the Hero and didn't wait for whatever ATT was going to offer for Android
I work for at&t
Motorola was at are center showing off the phone and the funny part was the gentleman that was showcasing the phone didn't know anything other then what was on the promo sheet.... the phone is just like tue clic from t mobile
I didn't like it at all personally
Look at it this way. If they didn't "disable" the out side apps thing, they would then be competeing with them selves. Also with yahoo, ATT has a deal with Yahoo to use them as there primary search for Mobile phones.
They released a crumby phone so Apple couldn't get to pissy with them over competition. Welcome to corporate America. Same stuff goes on where I work on a smaller scale. We will sell 3rd party hardware that is crappier than our hardware. It makes us look real good and gives a reason to charge our premium.
I put disable in qoutes because an advanced user can push the APK's with ADB.
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I do think the track pad navigation on the back is a cool idea, though I think partially ripped off from Apple's plans for the next ICrap. It is supposed to have a touch sensitive back if the rumors are true. Yet another law suit for Apple to push out I'm sure.
It only gets 1.5? Ouch. It would not be to bad of a phone if it wasn't for that. Hopefully they can root the sucker and upgrade it
I doubt they are trying to ruin the "first time android" experience. I switched from the iPhone to the android, because well... I just prefer it a lot better.
The main thing I'm jealous about though that AT&T is going to get are the new shipments of Dell Mini 5's. That's going to be amazing.
i read they gimped that phone at&t
AT&T is ****ing retarded. If I were Google, I would pull all there phones (though it's not a very good marketing thing to do, I'd still do it). I can't believe AT&T would have the audacity to cripple an Android phone and then on top of that, decide to put Yahoo search in place of Google search on an Android device, what retards. Thank God I'm on Sprint and have a Hero and can look forward to the amazing Supersonic and what not.
Fail
AT&T = Fail
's great, I'm supposed to be selling the iPhone at work, and I'm like "why would I? with the advent of Android it's now obsolete!"
I am now in an all android household. I have the hero, one roommate has the mytouch on t-mobile and the other one just got the backflip as he has been desperate to upgrade on att. Feeling bad for him now. Did not know the phone would be so gimped
out of the box. Thought yahoo search was the only impairment it would have. Tried to get him to switch to Sprint but he wanted to stay loyal. This is the reward att gives him!
JustinL42
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I am now in an all android household. I have the hero, one roommate has the mytouch on t-mobile and the other one just got the backflip as he has been desperate to upgrade on att. Feeling bad for him now. Did not know the phone would be so gimped
out of the box. Thought yahoo search was the only impairment it would have. Tried to get him to switch to Sprint but he wanted to stay loyal. This is the reward att gives him!
JustinL42
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Awww, come on now, he could get the stunning Iphone. /Sarcasm
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iPhone. Because you're too stupid to do that.
Wont 95% of users care less that yahoo is the default search and that they can only install applications from the marketplace?
My wife is due for an upgrade and shes debating between the Sprint Palm Pre or the backflip on ATT and although ATT's @#!& actions are infuriating to hardcore users like us I think the average user with their average interest wont care a bit. It seems that the back flip will still be a better device than the iphone right?
It does feel like they did that to keep Apple happy. But again, why the backflip in specs? The phone barely beats our phone in memory....and our phones are "old" now. I think they should do it right. They could have made a lot of money with a better spec'ed phone. Every review says not to buy it. Why not sell the N1? Hmmm. I guess ATT likes their noses covered in a brown substance.
I would NEVER buy that. If I wanted an Android on AT&T I'd get a G1, root it, unlock it, and put an AT&T sim in it.
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I doubt they are trying to ruin the "first time android" experience. I switched from the iPhone to the android, because well... I just prefer it a lot better.
The main thing I'm jealous about though that AT&T is going to get are the new shipments of Dell Mini 5's. That's going to be amazing.
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I could definitely see this as a deliberate attempt to hurt android. AT&T has been making wheel barrels full of cash off the iPhone and have no reason to be interested in open technology like Android.
In 6 months AT&T will point to sales numbers and say "Android just isn't preforming, people don't want it" I think they want it to fail, that or they're totally incompetent morons.
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Sorry, folks...
The Nexus One is no longer available for purchase directly from Google. For more information on how to purchase the Nexus One, check out our help center.
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so are our phones considered to have "classic status" now?
How about "The best Android device, ever" Status?
...and "No, you can't have one!" Status, LOL
Hehe
We now have one of the best phones no one can get and in limited numbers. There going to be worth some money especially is we get Android 3.0 first. .
the end of an era!
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We now have one of the best phones no one can get and in limited numbers. There going to be worth some money especially is we get Android 3.0 first. .
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I don't understand how people can keep thinking this... NO THEY WON'T. It's a phone...not a fully restored '69 Lincoln with suicide doors. If it didn't sell in droves, then there wasn't that much demand for it, and that's why it was cancelled. People aren't suddenly going to be wanting one now that it's sold out on the website. There are phones with similar specs out now, and in 3 months there will be even badder phones out. It's life... deal with it guys.
hey look, my (insert phone here) is the best phone ever because (very specific pro of phone here)!!!!
but really, the n1 is a good phone but its already been out for almost 8 months. a new iphone comes out every year and i doubt apple keeps making the previous model until the last day
i think it has some additional historical value as the first and possibly only "google" phone made
Do to coverage issues I had to switch carriers, and moved to Sprint. The Evo is only a consolation prize and a OK now that Cyanogen is working on it. However I did post up my MINT Nexus on Ebay last night. Hope the people out there get a ravenous .
Missing My Nexus
not sold out
you can still buy the phone from a provider. see the help center link and choose your country....
i don't care if it's sold out or not. I have mine!
So if my N1 craps out then theres nothing I can do to get it replaced? I think I'll be putting it away for selling purposes
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you can still buy the phone from a provider. see the help center link and choose your country....
i don't care if it's sold out or not. I have mine!
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My country isn't in the list...
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So if my N1 craps out then theres nothing I can do to get it replaced? I think I'll be putting it away for selling purposes
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I'm sure HTC has a stock of refurbs for warranty reasons...
the nexus is the most underrated phone ever.
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the nexus is the most underrated phone ever.
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I agree... completely!
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i think it has some additional historical value as the first and possibly only "google" phone made
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Erm. Quick problem with that. Wasn't the G1 the first "google" phone? >_>
And I agree. About the n1 being underrated. In my personal opinion (imo), I think that for a phone to still be on the cutting edge, and still holding its own 8 MONTHS after it came out? That's pretty B.A. In my personal opinion, that is.
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And I agree. About the n1 being underrated. In my personal opinion (imo), I think that for a phone to still be on the cutting edge, and still holding its own 8 MONTHS after it came out? That's pretty B.A. In my personal opinion, that is.
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It just goes to show how far ahead of the market it was at release!
The sad thing is that the N1 still is the best unlocked phone you can buy in the US. This is the first time I see a phone get canceled before something better comes around. Unbelievable. Better take good care of your N1!
Well, me being on AT&T, the Nexus the best phone I can get! I personally don't want or like the Captivate because of it's UGLY design and being manufactered by Samsung. Everyone thinks that the Nexus was a flop because sales weren't high but, the whole reason it was created was to excel Android OS. All the advertisement it had was just a small ammont of internet ads. In my opinion, it was a success. Before the Nexus, the best phone, hardware wise was the Milestone....
Yep, the sophisticated users quickly bought up the rest because it's a developers dream device and will continue to be to some extent!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/cdma-iphone-in-engineering-tests-may-arrive-in-january-says-jo/
so how many closet apple fan boys will be jumping on this deal? if i could run android on it, i might consider but verizons prices are crap. i hope sprint has a good line up later this fall and next year because this if anything will hurt where it counts.
Galaxy S for Sprint will be out by then.
iPhones are overrated.
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Galaxy S for Sprint will be out by then.
iPhones are overrated.
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their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
I don't think Sprint is going to work with Apple, beacause of the "Total Equipment Protecction", Apple Iphone doesn't have that...
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their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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their gonna need something because by january the evo won't count as it will be as outdated as the hero. im not counting any wp7 garbage either because i talked to sprint and they aren't even sure if they will carry those phones. winmo is not a hot seller for them, android is.
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i wish these companies would allow the buyer to choose what service they want their phones on. i hope one day that will happen. example: id love to get the droid2 on sprint.
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their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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Have you tried it out in a store? It's definitely different from Samsung's past attempts, in a good way. The Cortex processor is ridiculously fast, resulting in the smoothest Android experience I've seen to date.
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The software is horrible, but the hardware is pretty good. The iPhone is popular because it's easy to learn and has more apps than any other OS. Oh, and guess what's in the iPhone. A Samsung processor.
No matter what Apple comes out with I will never get another one of their products. The thing that really sets Android from iOS and the iPhone is there is only 1 phone with iOS and there have been over 40 released android phones with atleast 12 more confirmed to be released and over 10 rumored phones.
I still believe that Android will out sale iPhone no matter where it goes.
Apple provides no freedom to its subscribers other than the reveled "App Store" that's about as varietal as it gets for them. No alternate phones to use, no alternate homescreen, GUI (unless jailbroken i suppose) just the same tried nd true iphone with a faeclift and some hardware changes from time to time some for the better, some for the worse lol. I love their PC's nd laptops but i will NEVER own an iphone.
If anyone here really has that big of a boner for the Iphone4 I'd be really suprised. It's not a bad phone but I just hate apple, and it doesn't do anything that the EVO or any other phone coming out can't do. I'd take an EVO over that any day. I'm android from here on out.
This video sums up this entire thread lol!!!
http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html
Its still the same iPhone4 just a new radio. As the Android Phones continue to evolve it will still be what is out right now.
I work with a bunch of people who all have Iphone's and talk amongst each other and it kills me, I think it's safe to say I'm an android snob. One could say that I think I'm better for owning an android phone and having it rooted. I might argue at first, but honestly I can't help it. Apple to me is like owning a prius, and Android is like owning ****ing Optimus Prime.
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I work with a bunch of people who all have Iphone's and talk amongst each other and it kills me, I think it's safe to say I'm an android snob. One could say that I think I'm better for owning an android phone and having it rooted. I might argue at first, but honestly I can't help it. Apple to me is like owning a prius, and Android is like owning ****ing Optimus Prime.
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Haha optimus prime. I actually have him as my lockscreen just cause i feel that exact same way. I wouldn't be surprised if I woke up in the middle of the night to find my phone in the backyard having a meeting with all the other local android phones on how they are gonna get rid of the iphones.
But seriously, I too feel the same way, I'm a college student and everyone rich kid and their parents have an iphone and think that they are so cool. All i can think when i see them, is my phone is better than yours. And i have a hero! a phone that in the rapid pace phone world, is obsolete.
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Apple provides no freedom to its subscribers other than the reveled "App Store" that's about as varietal as it gets for them. No alternate phones to use, no alternate homescreen, GUI (unless jailbroken i suppose) just the same tried nd true iphone with a faeclift and some hardware changes from time to time some for the better, some for the worse lol. I love their PC's nd laptops but i will NEVER own an iphone.
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And yet, i agree with this. While i would never own an iphone willingly, i do have a macbook and i couldn't be happier with it. I can do anything i want on it and it never fails me. No crashes, no freezing, no viruses. Nothing. Its solid.
But at the same time, i don't carry it around with me everywhere so everyone can see my macbook. I don't go sit in coffee shops just to surf the internet. I chose a macbook not cause it's the cool thing to have, but because I believed it was the best choice i could make. So I'm not an apple hater, I just think that if I'm spending a considerable amount of money on a tech device, it better work to its complete and full potential.
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If anyone here really has that big of a boner for the Iphone4 I'd be really suprised. It's not a bad phone but I just hate apple, and it doesn't do anything that the EVO or any other phone coming out can't do. I'd take an EVO over that any day. I'm android from here on out.
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i used to hate android when it first came out, that's when winmo was the hot seller back in 2007-2008. yes it is the most popular os out there "right now" but im sure something will trump android in the near future. what im waiting to see is the next webos device.
If the iPhone was available for Sprint.... I would buy it. The only reason I didn't get one in the first place is because AT&T makes you pay out the ass every month. The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now. The only downside to iPhone is that you can't customize it as well as Android, but... you can put Android on the iPhone! Again, the iPhone is the best phone you can buy right now.
The way it looks now, HTC, Motorola, and maybe even Samsung and LG are going to all be putting out phones that will be directly competing with not only the iPhone, but each other also. That's cool that Apple busts out hardware that puts all these companies in there place for a minute, but on the software sides of things, I'll take Android any day. The nonstop onslaught of Android phones coming out makes me think the Iphone4 won't be on top hardware wise for very long. They seem to be up against almost every phone manufacturer now.
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If the iPhone was available for Sprint.... I would buy it. The only reason I didn't get one in the first place is because AT&T makes you pay out the ass every month. The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now. The only downside to iPhone is that you can't customize it as well as Android, but... you can put Android on the iPhone! Again, the iPhone is the best phone you can buy right now.
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i wouldn't buy one but id take one for free. verizon is pretty expensive too when it comes to it's plans.
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Didn't think I've EVER see anyone say this on xda forums. But to each his own.
Still, !!
I just saw on the news that Andriod has surpassed iOS and blackberry's OS for most used OS on smartphones.
Congrats to google and all of the awesome devs that made me want to get an android phone!
Edit: My news channel sucks, after reading up on it, the report that was released showed Android as being the most popular purchased in the last six months. While not quite as impressive, it looks like we're making headway on Apple and Blackberry.
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I just saw on the news that Andriod has surpassed iOS and blackberry's OS for most used OS on smartphones.
Congrats to google and all of the awesome devs that made me want to get an android phone!
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Not really. It just became the most bought. Blackberry/iPhone is still #1/#2 in the US by about 10-12% (~31/28/19% - BB/iPhone/Android). Internationally (where the iPhone is available on multiple carriers) the gap is bigger. It's definitely growing though.
Edit: Just to be clearer, the numbers show that in the US people are leaving Blackberry, the iPhone is staying pretty constant, and Android is growing. So it looks like Blackberry (probably from Verizon/Sprint/T-Mo) users are moving to Android. And if Verizon gets the rumored CDMA iPhone (which is available in China now), it'll probably change the dynamics (Verizon Blackberry/Android users => iPhone) since iPhone retention among users is really, really high.
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Ok, so if it is the most bought, then doesn't that mean that more people have it than any other OS????
Cuz I'm pretty sure that's what I said and what you said.....
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The iPhone has been selling like crazy for years now. It's base of users are much larger than Androids. Right now the iPhone stands at 28% of the US market share, Android is at 19%. People have recently started buying more Android phones than any other type of phone, so it's still less but it's growing. Get it?
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Not necessarily, being most bought doesn't make it the most used, it just means it's growing. You can have 2 million BB users, 1 million iOS users and 500K Android users. Android is selling 3/day, iOS 2/day and BB 1/day. While Android is growing the quickest, it's still third in the smart phone market.
And if Verizon gets the rumored CDMA iPhone (which is available in China now) said:
Like most Apple products, they lock you into their ecosystem and sink their teeth into your wallet. Once you sell your soul to Stevie, it's tough to get it back.
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Like most Apple products, they lock you into their ecosystem and sink their teeth into your wallet. Once you sell your soul to Stevie, it's tough to get it back.
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Oh so you mean I can transfer my Android apps to a iPhone/WebOS/Blackberry? Nice!!
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Like most Apple products, they lock you into their ecosystem and sink their teeth into your wallet. Once you sell your soul to Stevie, it's tough to get it back.
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+1. Steve jobs and apple are really good at raping the customers in the wallet yet they willingly let it happen. I don't call their customers fanboys anymore, I prefer the term mindless zombie.
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Oh so you mean I can transfer my Android apps to a iPhone/WebOS/Blackberry? Nice!!
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Good luck trying to transfer anything non-apple to an iphone without having to use itunes at least once. I highly doubt android apps would be allowed onto an iphone let alone work correctly.
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Good luck trying to transfer anything non-apple to an iphone without having to use itunes at least once. I highly doubt android apps would be allowed onto an iphone let alone work correctly.
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Ever heard of Doubletwist? That's my point, use one platform and you get locked in unless you want to abandon all your paid apps.
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Oh so you mean I can transfer my Android apps to a iPhone/WebOS/Blackberry? Nice!!
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Well no, (yes) but you can transfer it to a wide variety of hardware manufacturers and carriers.
For instance, here is an incomplete list of where you can take your apps either now, or in the future.
Acer
Alcatel
Apple (oh right, android works on the iphone too)
ARCHOS
ASUS
Dell
Garmin
HP
HTC
Kyocera
Lenovo
LG
Motorola
MSI
Nokia
Panasonic
Philips
Samsung
Sharp
Sony Ericsson
ZTE
Or you can take your iOS apps to the following places:
Apple
Award Tour said:
Oh so you mean I can transfer my Android apps to a iPhone/WebOS/Blackberry? Nice!!
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that made no sense based off what you quoted him from
Award Tour said:
Ever heard of Doubletwist? That's my point, use one platform and you get locked in unless you want to abandon all your paid apps.
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I still prefer android over anything apple even considering the paid apps. The android market is still growing and eventually there will be some sort of quality control much like how apple does their market.
As for paid apps, it's no different than buying games on an old phone and then not being able to use them anymore after getting a different phone.
Also, you can't beat the 24 hour refund period. I don't backup paid apps and then refund but it has saved me money refunding apps that did something I could already do. Bettercut is a recent example. My wife wanted to use some icons from the market but it couldn't be used without bettercut. The icons were free but not the app. I just hit refund and showed her how to use custom icons through launcherpro.
Apple doesn't do that. In fact, I remember when the apple market first came out an app was sold for $5+ and it was nothing more than a red button that did nothing. People literally got robbed on that one.
Yay another thread about how Apple does everything wrong and Android does everything right./s
mastermarc said:
Well no, (yes) but you can transfer it to a wide variety of hardware manufacturers and carriers.
For instance, here is an incomplete list of where you can take your apps either now, or in the future.
Acer
Alcatel
Apple (oh right, android works on the iphone too)
ARCHOS
ASUS
Dell
Garmin
HP
HTC
Kyocera
Lenovo
LG
Motorola
MSI
Nokia
Panasonic
Philips
Samsung
Sharp
Sony Ericsson
ZTE
Or you can take your iOS apps to the following places:
Apple
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It's still the same ecosystem. My point is that you'll still be locked into Android. Its the way things work.
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You must be referring to this article:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/05/android-is-numero-uno-among-us-phone-buyers-over-the-last-six-mo/
This is just for the last 6 months by the way.
lovethyEVO said:
I still prefer android over anything apple even considering the paid apps. The android market is still growing and eventually there will be some sort of quality control much like how apple does their market.
As for paid apps, it's no different than buying games on an old phone and then not being able to use them anymore after getting a different phone.
Also, you can't beat the 24 hour refund period. I don't backup paid apps and then refund but it has saved me money refunding apps that did something I could already do. Bettercut is a recent example. My wife wanted to use some icons from the market but it couldn't be used without bettercut. The icons were free but not the app. I just hit refund and showed her how to use custom icons through launcherpro.
Apple doesn't do that. In fact, I remember when the apple market first came out an app was sold for $5+ and it was nothing more than a red button that did nothing. People literally got robbed on that one.
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you mean this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/08/iphone-i-am-ric.html
werxen said:
Yay another thread about how Apple does everything wrong and Android does everything right./s
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Yes, you are in an android forum.
And if you don't like it, then quit trolling and move on.
akarol said:
You must be referring to this article:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/05/android-is-numero-uno-among-us-phone-buyers-over-the-last-six-mo/
This is just for the last 6 months by the way.
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Read the OP all of the way.
Last-Chance said:
you mean this:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/08/iphone-i-am-ric.html
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That's the one. I didn't want to quote the actual price since spending more than $5 on a useless app is dumb enough, I tried to downplay it a bit. But that is the one I was referring to. Thanks for the link.
Award Tour said:
It's still the same ecosystem. My point is that you'll still be locked into Android. Its the way things work.
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It might be the same OS but the selection is HUGE compared to Apples. Like the guy was saying, you have 10+ carriers with android; motorola, HTC, and samsung all use custom UI's. The processors, internal memory, ram and other hardware features can all be changed over different makers on the changeable OS.
For the iOS you have Apple, old version with an old UI and one with a slightly new UI. Which will probably stay the same over the coming years. There is no other company making the phone so what it comes with is what you get and the OS wont come any different (customized) then the other Apple phones being released. That is until they release another version.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-stephen-elop-rallies-troops-in-brutally-honest-burnin/
so it appears that Nokia is no longer staying idle as their company loses huge margins in the cell phone arena. According to the above article there is a chance that they might join the android team!
IMO that would be awesome. Nokia "still imo" the best phone manufacturer out there. Faaaar superior to Motorola, HTC and Samsung combined. Their phones are always aesthetically pleasing and much more thought out than the *cough* dual screen phones coming.
While Motorola, Htc and samsung are decent phone manufacturers, I think if Nokia jumped ship then android would really be an unstoppable force.
EDIT
WE LOSE ):
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/exclusive-nokias-windows-phone-7-concept-revealed/
that is one sexy ass looking phone!
It could also be wp7 though. I believe one of their technology officers used to be a high up at microsoft before he went to work at nokia.
elegantai said:
It could also be wp7 though. I believe one of their technology officers used to be a high up at microsoft before he went to work at nokia.
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yeah I know... That would give wp7 a lot of leverage in the game since they came in late... I'm still hoping the at least get into the high end android game. I just love their phones soooo much. They do everything right except for the software.
Their 8mp cameras from 2 years ago are far superior to our 8 and 5mp's today...
If they do go android, even with part of their lineup, it would definitely push android over the top in os distribution! So that is who I am rooting for Don't they have some sort of shareholder conference or something this week?
I'd buy day one...best cameras, though their phones have been kind of ugly recently.
elegantai said:
If they do go android, even with part of their lineup, it would definitely push android over the top in os distribution! So that is who I am rooting for Don't they have some sort of shareholder conference or something this week?
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I'm not sure about that, but I know that the article I posted says that they will be talking about their new game plan February 11th. I'm assuming by then we may get a hint as if they will try and catalyze their own OS or jump on board with android/wp7...
The most recent nokia phone that I got to play with was the N8 and holy cow was that phone amazing. It was by far the most solid feeling phone that I ever held and the touch screen was superb. The software itself wasn't too shabby neither....
I really think that Nokia can utilize android to its fullest potential. The extent at which they polish their devices is remarkable.
a dual core nokia phone would be my dream come true.
I use to like nokia (minus the garbage battery locks), then they had to shut down all their factories in the us and move to china.
Screw them.
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they were great... over 10yrs ago...
but...
W7 needs help to get a jump start
nokia needs a huge savior...
looks like ...
microsoft will love to get an experienced mgfr to back them.
Nokia needs a new OS to plan thier future on...
both will most likely do anything to get love for the other....
match made in heaven!
but if they do get android.. that would be so great!!!
And they chose microsoft, go figure. lol