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[Q][Sarcasm] NOT another useless thread..ok it is.

Without a doubt the Epic 4g is definitely the most impressive piece of hand-held hardware I have owned to date. I am a long time HTC user and I can promise I will [probably] never go back. There is no other phone on the market that I would rather have for the uses that I use it for. I made my decision wisely after a lot of research. So with that being said, why in the world is so many people so up in arms and worked up over not getting a 2.2 update? Do you really need flash that bad on your phone? If you're spending that much time using flash sites then why not man up and buy yourself a decent netbook? Seriously I don't understand. The only reason I have ever been upset that I didn't have flash was when I was unable to masturbate to my normal free porn site, and instead had to find a mobile version. An inconvenience, yes, but not to the extreme that I cursed samsung. Besides it's much better to have two hands free (for some of us anyway).
So what is it? You want to brag to the girls at the bar that your Epic can do more mflops than a Amsterdam prostitute? Someone please enlighten me here. My experience with 2.1 has been super smooth, responsive, and no app I can throw at will slow it down. In real world use what is the benefit of 2.2? Oh yeah it would be nice to have the new gmail app with the return/forward at the top instead of the bottom, true, but what else?
If you weren't tied to your phone's benchmark like it was the size of your peni$, what seriously is the Epic 2.1 lacking that a 2.2 update would fix?
edit: Keep an eye out for my new rom: Better than froyo. Completely Stock with madthumbs mobile bookmark baked in.

You want to brag to the girls at the bar that your Epic can do more mflops than a Amsterdam prostitute?
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People gotz to get their porn. You know, put all 4 inches to their full potential.

cuz the roll out of fR0yo promises 20% less sticky screen after a session of mobile masturbation and a online myspace gf!

plapczyn said:
People gotz to get their porn. You know, put all 4 inches to their full potential.
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Ha!

Mikandi works on eclair and froyo )
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I wondered the same thing for a long time. If you need flash so bad then download the adobe flash app.
Now most of us are on the leaked froyo I'm seeing crap about gingerbread. What's so special about that is what I really wanna know.

I get mad lag on my stock 2.1 phone. This is my second Epic since launch and both lagged after about 12 hours of uptime.
I brought this phone in to Sprint and of course it decides to be all snappy for them. >:-| So my only hope is for the better task management FroYo offers will remedy the lag. That said, sure the lack of an update sucks, but I'm not sweating it.
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Fine, but seriously... lack of 2.2 is not what kills it for me on this phone... it's the damn screen that's calibrated like ass. Being a photographer, I just have to ask myself... who the f wants to stare at a screen that calibrated to a very cool temp?

2.2 won't help you there, but this will: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-universal-version-takes-aim-at-more-phones/#
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OMG! THANKS! If I was into man-love, I'd offer you free blowjob, but I'm not, so for now a simple thanks still suffice.
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Hmmm.... wonder if any Devs know if theres a way to adjust more advanced settings than RGB... thats great, but It would be nice to be able to ISF calibrate this thing, it does have amazing image potential. May even be able to set up profiles for outside, movie, the retarded 'sports' one, oh wait, think its on that... Set up to work well with the lighting at a Sprint store I would assume...

I'd like to be able to use the audio-out function of the expensive factory dock I bought. I'd also appreciate full voice command support.

There is more to Flash than just websites and video. Froyo also gives you the ability to run Adobe Air applications as well as run Flash content. I already have two Air apps that I've been working on that I will be putting on the market once I've got 2.2 on my Epic and can test them myself.
Not to mention that Google has been updating their core apps and some will now require 2.2. I, for one, don't relish the fact that a phone I bought 2 months ago can't run the latest apps.
And please don't tell me to install a custom ROM. I'm new to Android and this is my primary communication device for personal and business use. I'm not really ready to risk screwing it up just yet.
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ungovernable1977 said:
Hmmm.... wonder if any Devs know if theres a way to adjust more advanced settings than RGB... thats great, but It would be nice to be able to ISF calibrate this thing, it does have amazing image potential. May even be able to set up profiles for outside, movie, the retarded 'sports' one, oh wait, think its on that... Set up to work well with the lighting at a Sprint store I would assume...
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I have an i1. We can't calibrate the phone..but I might be able to run the software via vnc to get a color temp.
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nicholishen said:
Besides it's much better to have two hands free (for some of us anyway).
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It should be noted that OP has very small hands.

greezestain said:
It should be noted that OP has very small hands.
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That's what scared me about upgrading to this massive phone. You ever seen that burger king commercial with the tiny hands? Kinda like that.
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themirthfulswami said:
There is more to Flash than just websites and video. Froyo also gives you the ability to run Adobe Air applications as well as run Flash content. I already have two Air apps that I've been working on that I will be putting on the market once I've got 2.2 on my Epic and can test them myself.
Not to mention that Google has been updating their core apps and some will now require 2.2. I, for one, don't relish the fact that a phone I bought 2 months ago can't run the latest apps.
And please don't tell me to install a custom ROM. I'm new to Android and this is my primary communication device for personal and business use. I'm not really ready to risk screwing it up just yet.
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I can see how it would be frustrating if you are using the epic as your only android device to develop on, but don't they have emulators?
I guess my op q was directed more at real world use. Personal and business uses. I've flashed several 2.2 Roms an Always end up back at baked snack for smoothness, reliability, and battery life. I punish this phone as an account executive. I just have never had a smooth experience with any of the 2.2
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No more adobe flash for mobile?

I thought this was interesting, and super lame. Dont know if its old news, buts its the first I heard of it.
No more adobe flash support for mobile?
http://www.slashgear.com/adobe-slam...over-mobile-flash-cut-stock-plunges-09194410/
Lemme know what this means to you all.
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I just received an update on Flash 11. So It might be the last

Hmm, I wonder if Google might change it's mind about flash now, they might go back with Apple and Microsoft and replace flash
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Flash is old hat though....
Technology is moving forward. We have things like HTML5 replacing the need for flash.
Flash is slow, clunky, and a battery and resource hog. Good riddance!

I dunno, I personally love having flash. I like my web pages to render exactly like a desktop, cuz my phone IS my desktop.
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I have always hated Flash but it's the best we have and everyone uses it unfortunately. Losing this ability on our phones is a bad thing no matter how you slice it. If we had something better that was more universal that's a different story but we don't.

OstrichSak said:
I have always hated Flash but it's the best we have and everyone uses it unfortunately. Losing this ability on our phones is a bad thing no matter how you slice it. If we had something better that was more universal that's a different story but we don't.
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Do u think its possible Google has something up their sleeve. They have to realize how many people bought android because of flash. I would hope so at least

revol.epic said:
it means the iphone wins and android is in the dust. people only dropped apple for android for flash... now no difference...
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It does not....No one I know bought an Android for the sole reason that it plays Flash, and if anyone did, they're an idiot. I bought one because I could customize it, root it, and a boatload of other things that I can't do with an iPhone. HTML5 is way better than Flash anyway. We'll all be better off because of this.

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Ummm, actually, Flash is one of the main things I was excited about when I moved to android on June 4th 2010 (evo launch).
I came from WinMo. The skyfire browser on WinMo supported flash, and finally provided a desktop experience on my phone.
Reading the comments on the article I linked to seemed to support the argument that HTML5 could be great, if it was developed a lot further than its current state. Which means, as OstrichSak said, what until then?
And hopefully google DOES have something up their sleeve
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scottspa74 said:
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Ummm, actually, Flash is one of the main things I was excited about when I moved to android on June 4th 2010 (evo launch).
I came from WinMo. The skyfire browser on WinMo supported flash, and finally provided a desktop experience on my phone.
Reading the comments on the article I linked to seemed to support the argument that HTML5 could be great, if it was developed a lot further than its current state. Which means, as OstrichSak said, what until then?
And hopefully google DOES have something up their sleeve
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It's not like it's disappearing out of thin air tomorrow.....They'll still use it until HTML5 becomes the standard.

Evo4gLI said:
It's not like it's disappearing out of thin air tomorrow.....They'll still use it until HTML5 becomes the standard.
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Funny choice of words because they will still be using AIR. lol
They aren't supporting mobile flash "in browser". But they are still supporting flash on mobile devices via AIR.

Evo4gLI said:
It's not like it's disappearing out of thin air tomorrow.....They'll still use it until HTML5 becomes the standard.
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Right, true. I guess I was just really shocked to see it no longer be supported. Anyhow, thanks for everyones comments and observations here

ICS already on Xoom! Why don't we have it yet???

Check it out! Forward to 12:00 to see it in action

This has already been posted twice... and the most obvious answer is that it isn't ready yet. Just because you see ICS running and one feature demonstrated doesn't mean the entire thing is ready yet.

Nice to see it running on a Xoom...

Surprised we don't have a leaked beta version of ICS for Xoom.

I'd rather wait for a proper version from the Tiamat guys than have a half working leaked version.

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I'd rather wait for a proper version from the Tiamat guys than have a half working leaked version.
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Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the Tiamat ROM, I just would love to see some in depth ICS videos or be able to play around with it myself on the Xoom. Just to get a taste, even if it is an early build

I ain't trippin' 'bout waitin' for this update. My XOOM runs as I expected it to back in February (and it's about time, too.) The only things that ICS offers that I care about are resizeable Widgets (I hope they mean it this time) and the ability to take screenshots and hide apps without root access.
I can get almost everything done on my XOOM that I planned to do when I bought it. It will be nice to have as long as they don't screw it up. I don't care if it comes.
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omac_ranger said:
Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the Tiamat ROM, I just would love to see some in depth ICS videos or be able to play around with it myself on the Xoom. Just to get a taste, even if it is an early build
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If you want a taste of ICS, then DL the latest version of ADW Launcher EX. It is just like the ICS launcher (from what I've seen) and it takes a bit of getting used to. A bit too easy to create folders IMO as you move app icons around. Resizable widgets, of course (not new for ADW). Lots of customizations possible.

sodaboy581 said:
This has already been posted twice... and the most obvious answer is that it isn't ready yet. Just because you see ICS running and one feature demonstrated doesn't mean the entire thing is ready yet.
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Yea, we wouldn't want another rushed for the Xoom like honeycomb was with 3.0, 3.0.1, etc. lol
So, yea I don't mind waiting a bit til they get some of the bugs out.

okantomi said:
If you want a taste of ICS, then DL the latest version of ADW Launcher EX. It is just like the ICS launcher (from what I've seen) and it takes a bit of getting used to. A bit too easy to create folders IMO as you move app icons around. Resizable widgets, of course (not new for ADW). Lots of customizations possible.
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Scrollable widgets kinda suck on ADW launcher EX on my xoom. It's hard to flick and scroll my gmail widget. It's worse when I set gestures to open/close the dock. Everytime I try to scroll widgets up or down, the dock opens or close and I can't even scroll the widget properly.

Not everyone has the time or will to dig through the thread list to check whether or not a particular topic has been discussed already before starting a new thread on the same topic. Besides, let the mods moderate reposts of essentially the same topic. That is why they exist, after all (among many other responsibilities, of course)!
With that out of the way, I share in the OP's eagerness for an ICS port and find it a bit disconcerting that there's no port for my tablet the Xoom, of course nor my phone, the T-Mob GSII. I applaud the devs who are currently toiling away to bring ICS to the Xoom and would definitely buy one of them a round of beer for their hard work with the only catch being since I don't have Paypal (long story) they'd have to be in the NYC area

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find it a bit disconcerting that there's no port for my tablet the Xoom, of course nor my phone, the T-Mob GSII.
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Motorola already confirmed it will come, just give them time. Those things don't happen overnight, as they have to take the source code, add the hardware drivers (different interface with the kernel than previous versions), add their branded software, and then test everything to ensure it works. It will come, both from the community AND Motorola.

jaekidd1012 said:
Not everyone has the time or will to dig through the thread list to check whether or not a particular topic has been discussed already before starting a new thread on the same topic. Besides, let the mods moderate reposts of essentially the same topic. That is why they exist, after all (among many other responsibilities, of course)!...
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Blah, what a cop-out.
Rule #1 from Forum & Marketplace Rules says:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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If you don't have the "time or will" to search before you post, then don't post...IMO.

RMerlin said:
Motorola already confirmed it will come, just give them time. Those things don't happen overnight, as they have to take the source code, add the hardware drivers (different interface with the kernel than previous versions), add their branded software, and then test everything to ensure it works. It will come, both from the community AND Motorola.
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I agree. When Motorola puts out their update, it will be even easier for xda development to make something nice. I am not going to get on people who aren't getting anything out of it. I don't expect free stuff just because someone is working on it anyway.
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If you don't have the "time or will" to search before you post, then don't post...IMO.
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If we're going to start telling people how to post, why not tell people how to reply?
-If you only want to dress someone down in public, keep scrolling.-
The evil city-state of 3devious is such a harsh place that even I don't measure up. You don't want to suck as badly as me, do you?
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3devious said:
If we're going to start telling people how to post, why not tell people how to reply?
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When I made my initial post about the OP posting this when it was already mentioned twice, both threads where the ICS video were posted were on page 1. Wasn't a lot of searching to be done to see them... I can understand if a related thread is deep or a few pages away, but page one reeks of laziness.

3devious said:
If we're going to start telling people how to post...
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I think everyone here knows "how to post." You hit the reply, quote, or new thread button. Pretty simple. What you post is a different story. The rules are there for a reason.
As for the other stuff in your reply, I have no clue as to what you were trying to say, but one thing I do know, is that I will never suck as bad as you....
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...but page one reeks of laziness.
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I agree.
/10char

I will poach elephants and club baby seals for ICS on my Xoom before Christmas. Any big game hunters interested, just get in touch.
Oh wait, we're talking about posting on forums

looks like they got the nexus s one ready as ics is available for download on that device. I'd imagine the xoom isn't that far down the line seeing how everyone who works at google owns one.

Are we FINALLY going to be able to WRITE to our SD Cards like EVERY other Android Tablet out there? This whole GED BULL**** has really held back Our Xoom's to there full potential. GED has been a Big Headache and WORTHLESS. It has NOT given us any cool stuff over other Android Tablets. I believe GED has hindered our devices. This will be the LAST GED device I buy as it does NOTHING Special.

[Q] wanting to buy the TF.....

SO I had a nook tablet and I loved having an android tablet. I put CM9 on it and for the most part it worked just fine. I ended up getting rid of my NT because I wanted a full tablet and not something that pretended to be one. I am having issues deciding one what I want to get now.
I love the TF for the price. But I am concerned about not having flash with ICS anymore. Has there been any work around with the custom ROMS out? I kinda feel like if I can't have flash then I might just get an Ipad2 while they are still around. If there was a way for flash I would be sold.....gotta be able to watch my porn. lol..jk jk jk

on andriod 4.04 and i have flash. I have no idea what you are talking about.

tweaked said:
on andriod 4.04 and i have flash. I have no idea what you are talking about.
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I read that ICS doesn't have flash. I could be wrong...my wife reminds me all the time that I usually am wrong.

rbellis said:
I read that ICS doesn't have flash. I could be wrong...my wife reminds me all the time that I usually am wrong.
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New browsers will not have flash. So, the new chrome browser does not have it, however the old stand by browser, as well as dolphin and some other browser still have flash.
It works fine on the tf.

Yup, Flash works fine on the stock browser.
If you go to a page thats built up with 90% flash adds, it can be a bit slow with loading the page. But it works just fine. (ICS 4.0.4)

Goatshocker said:
Yup, Flash works fine on the stock browser.
If you go to a page thats built up with 90% flash adds, it can be a bit slow with loading the page. But it works just fine. (ICS 4.0.4)
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New browsers will not have flash. So, the new chrome browser does not have it, however the old stand by browser, as well as dolphin and some other browser still have flash.
It works fine on the tf.
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I think that just made my decision for me. Thanks guys! Are you guys using stock ICS or a flashed ROM

Im using team EOS nightly build 19, as stated in my signature
But official asus 4.0.3 works fine with flash as well.

My recommendation if you decide to get it is to also get the keyboard. I didn't think that I would really use it but with the extra input ports and battery its great.
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I bought one from NewEgg today for $289, includes docking keyboard! It's refurbished with 1 year warranty. So, don't buy if refurb scares you, but it's fine for me.
(I can't post a link here because I haven't made enough posts yet, but you should check it out!)

FYI, the Newegg deal with the keyboard dock is 389 (refurbished) -- you have to select the special deal when you go to add the TF101 to your cart. It's 289 for the tablet alone.
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230172

I wouldn't worry about all the idiot idiotic "tech" sites claiming flash is dead etc etc.
They are clueless cretins. I wouldn't trust them to polish my shoes. Flash just got updated to 11.2 a couple of days back.
The Register, BBC News, Tech Radar, Gizmodo, Engadget and more all look like idiots.

the more I look into things...I am considering the Ipad. I know that is just pure evil to mention here! Please forgive me!

rbellis said:
the more I look into things...I am considering the Ipad. I know that is just pure evil to mention here! Please forgive me!
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Ok so complaining about flash on the tf.......
I can watch the youtube website 720p and be quite happy.
The ipad cant use the website no flash the ipad has to rely on an app slow buffer times
If you want me to make a massive list I don't mind helping somebody not choose an apple.
Don't get me wrong I owned probably 7 ipods and when the iphone first came out i loved it and gave it a try. Over the years though they have stopped innovation lacked things and there new hardware is actually dated hardware now. Guess I would be classed as a convert lol
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wingzero2085 said:
FYI, the Newegg deal with the keyboard dock is 389 (refurbished) -- you have to select the special deal when you go to add the TF101 to your cart. It's 289 for the tablet alone.
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230172
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Wow - that sure is mis-leading!! They make it look like it's $289 for tab and dock, when it's really just the tab... Deceiving, at the least...
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rbellis said:
the more I look into things...I am considering the Ipad. I know that is just pure evil to mention here! Please forgive me!
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Then you truly won't have flash... Among other things. Apple products are good for people who don't care for customization or versatility. My TF can do anything that an iPad can do... The inverse can not be said. My TF with dock is without a doubt the closest thing to a laptop replacement available.
The iPads sure look cool though and sleek... Beyond that, their limited versatility has no use for me.
Apple is made to be idiot proof... They are like safety scissors... You use then with no fear of injury, but beyond play time they lack true use.
P.s. I was an idevice user until the iPhone 4. I've had the og iPhone, 3g, 3gs, 4, iPad 1 and iPad 2. They are good devices, but like others have said, apple has lost all innovation and opted to keep almost the exact phone since the beginning. Many others like myself desired change a well as free will of our content and devices.
Either way you should be happy with what you choose, we are lucky to have these options, we didn't have so many options a few years back.
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I keep going back and forth and honestly don't know what I am going to do. What I will use it for is some book reading....the internet....taking notes at work.....and watching movies. Some movies will be loaded on the sd card. Others...like tv series that I will watch in bed I would like to stream them from my pc if I candindafast way to do that
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rbellis said:
I keep going back and forth and honestly don't know what I am going to do. What I will use it for is some book reading....the internet....taking notes at work.....and watching movies. Some movies will be loaded on the sd card. Others...like tv series that I will watch in bed I would like to stream them from my pc if I candindafast way to do that
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IPads don't have sd compatibility
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Yeah...I am aware. Just laying out what I am going to use a tablet for.....will use the sd cardif it is there.
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Who cares? Let this guy buy an iPad if he thinks that's what he wants. Spare us all another "versus iPad" thread, or go to one of the existing "versus iPad" threads if that must be rehashed.

Its not that I want the ipad.....from what I understand. The ipad2 and even the new ipad uses outdated technologies. And the tf101 is already a better machine. I just want to make sure it can do everything....that is all.
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Adobe pulling Flash from Google Play

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19267140
Boooooo!!!!!!!!
Better not uninstall Flash then, or getting it back will be difficult (for stock users).
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shaggydabbydo said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19267140
Boooooo!!!!!!!!
Better not uninstall Flash then, or getting it back will be difficult (for stock users).
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you won't need flash... most will start using html5 which I'm told is a lot more reliable.

Why can't we have both till HTML 5 becomes as common as Flash!
We've been hearing the same thing from years.

I've copies of the APKs in my Dropbox should I ever need them. No big deal it'll be obsolete in most handsets soon.

eggman89 said:
Why can't we have both till HTML 5 becomes as common as Flash!
We've been hearing the same thing from years.
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The reason we've been hearing it for years is because the web developers have been lazy and just stuck to flash, there was no incentive to use HTML5, but now since flash is being phased out of android they will have more incentive to use HTML5 seeing that more and more people are accessing the internet via mobile devices and as we know the iPhone has no flash and now android too.
I say good riddance.
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This sucks.
I personally don't use flash, but a lot of educational software children use is flash based. Sure it will transition to HTML5, but in the meanwhile is will inconvenience many users more than provide incentive for developers.

onmike said:
This sucks.
I personally don't use flash, but a lot of educational software children use is flash based. Sure it will transition to HTML5, but in the meanwhile is will inconvenience many users more than provide incentive for developers.
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How many kids are using android phones to use educational software that is web based?
I think that is mostly done on a computer.
Seriously.
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nodstuff said:
How many kids are using android phones to use educational software that is web based?
I think that is mostly done on a computer.
Seriously.
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Many actually, you'd be surprised. Not so much phones, but definitely tablets.

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Many actually, you'd be surprised. Not so much phones, but definitely tablets.
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Ya but a lot of the tablets out there today won't get Jellybean so they don't need to worry, and think of it this way, the iPad is massively popular and has NEVER had flash.
I don't see it being a prioblem, tbh, any educational website that is worth anything is already using HTML5 to cater for their iPad and iPhone customers, and if they aren't already using it then they are bad business people because they are neglecting a huge market.
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nodstuff said:
Ya but a lot of the tablets out there today won't get Jellybean so they don't need to worry, and think of it this way, the iPad is massively popular and has NEVER had flash.
I don't see it being a prioblem, tbh, any educational website that is worth anything is already using HTML5 to cater for their iPad and iPhone customers, and if they aren't already using it then they are bad business people because they are neglecting a huge market.
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Gotta say, what's available/not available for iThing users does not concern me. I'm concerned with what's available/not available for non-iThings.
I'm not happy with the pulling of this app. I think it should be been left up, with warnings that it's no longer supported.

He is dead now so no good complaining to SJ the man that kill flash .
jje

shaggydabbydo said:
Gotta say, what's available/not available for iThing users does not concern me. I'm concerned with what's available/not available for non-iThings.
I'm not happy with the pulling of this app. I think it should be been left up, with warnings that it's no longer supported.
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With it being gone we will have more content in HTML5, why don't people get that?
Flash is crap, good riddance to buggy, slow crappy flash.
I don't care about isheep either but I do care about getting the best experience possible on my devices and flash isn't that.
If its such a big deal to you then put a copy of the apk on dropbox or your SD card.
Stop complaining about something you can't change.
JJEgan said:
He is dead now so no good complaining to SJ the man that kill flash .
jje
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Ya, he may have been a knobhead but he was right about flash, here's a piece he wrote about it.
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
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nodstuff said:
With it being gone we will have more content in HTML5, why don't people get that?
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Well I for one, get it. I would just like the ability to download the Flash app from the Play Store if I wanted to play flash on my Android device, do you get that?
Flash is crap, good riddance to buggy, slow crappy flash.
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Flash can be crap, it can also be good, and yes it can be buggy sometimes, other times I have not seen any bugginess.
I don't care about isheep either but I do care about getting the best experience possible on my devices and flash isn't that.
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I care about getting experiences on my device, and pulling the app means I could lose the ability to experience Flash. Let me put it this way; imagine if you lost the ability to flash <pun intended> ROM's because of they contain bugs/some third party decided you were not getting the best possible experience.
If its such a big deal to you then put a copy of the apk on dropbox or your SD card.
Stop complaining about something you can't change.
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I reserve my right to moan about what I want too moan about :laugh:[/QUOTE]

The best reason to have titanium back up!
But really I use chrome on this and it doesn't support flash anyways!
Not a big deal too!
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I get that this move will push HTML5 sooner, but the point is that the mobile internet is not ready for this and a lot of android users need flash as things stand today.
I use the BBC iPlayer a lot on my phone. The live coverage of the Olympics app was also flash dependent. It is not a case of a lot of small websites that have been slow to adapt to HTML5, some VERY big sites are also stuck. I actually dumped chrome in favor of dolphin on my phone because I wanted to use flash.
I know that XDAers will be finding various ways to keep flash available or workarounds to access HTML5 versions of sites that usually try and call flash. Like it or not though, many many users are not aware of how to do this on their phones.
The adoption of HTML5 is already being forced by some mobile browsers no longer supporting it, JB not supporting it iThings not supporting it. I'm also happy to keep flash even if i don't get the "very best user experience". Frankly flash being rubbish by comparison to HTML5 sites will also force the issue. All I want is the option to have flash for those occasions I need it, and I am sure thats what the majority of android users want. Even those who run stock roms, never visit XDA and don't know what HTML5 or flash is.

I wonder what adobe is gonna do now
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nodstuff said:
The reason we've been hearing it for years is because the web developers have been lazy and just stuck to flash, there was no incentive to use HTML5, but now since flash is being phased out of android they will have more incentive to use HTML5 seeing that more and more people are accessing the internet via mobile devices and as we know the iPhone has no flash and now android too.
I say good riddance.
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I agree.
Come to think of it you seem to speak a lot of sense because I find myself agreeing with you all the time

The earlier we start using modern standards, the more efficient our phones will be.
I'm not sad to see it go, all it did was drain my battery on several occasions, and not even play the video.
if you are on xda i don't see why this should bother you, getting the apk is as simple as using the search button.

Once html5 is adopted fully and standardized fully, im absolutely sure it will be great. Hoever, in the mean time, this is ****.
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As long as the ICS version of flash works just as well on jelly bean then all is good. Almost all the sites i use require flash so if the Ics Apk doesnt work well then i will have to stick to ics