Does the Desire Z have any contacts for charging & data. Looking at the pictures it seems that the usb connection is on the side which is a bit awkward in a car holder arrangement.
It would be great to drop it into a cradle (car or desk) without having to fiddle about plugging bits in, but it seems that decent manufacturer's accessories are a thing of the past..?
With the navigation a prominent feature, it really would make sense to have a proper accessory to mount the phone correctly.
I really would like to know this as well. I also want to know if you can route audio through micro-usb port. It works out really good in my G1 right now, I only have to plug in 1 cord for both audio and charging. I would hate to have to plug in 2 cords, micro-usb for charging and 3.5mm for audio, especially since they are on different sides of the phone.
I have the nexus one stand and its amazing. I hope there is some sort of dock. I hate trying to plug it in.
This is my concern - I don't think the regular Desire has any docking contacts (not certain on this though)
The TMo G2 has no dock contacts.
Use these car docks
I've been using the pro clip car docking systems for over 5 years now ... changed 2 cars and on my 3rd phone ...
good solid build, easy install and especially uninstall without damage to vehicle, etc.
I'm buying hte HTC desire Z as soon as it's available from bell in Canada (will unlock it and use it on Fido) but I already ordered the proclip mount for it (the one with car cigarette lighter plug charger) - it supports the phone both vertically and horizontally with or without the keyboard exposed (slide in from the side into the usb plug for charging). see proclipusa dot com and look for the desire z
Ok, I just got my holder
luciantm said:
I've been using the pro clip car docking systems for over 5 years now ... changed 2 cars and on my 3rd phone ...
good solid build, easy install and especially uninstall without damage to vehicle, etc.
I'm buying hte HTC desire Z as soon as it's available from bell in Canada (will unlock it and use it on Fido) but I already ordered the proclip mount for it (the one with car cigarette lighter plug charger) - it supports the phone both vertically and horizontally with or without the keyboard exposed (slide in from the side into the usb plug for charging). see proclipusa dot com and look for the desire z
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took a bit to get used to the side slide-in (due to usb on the side instead of on the bottom) but it really works great - got the one with cigarette lighter charger - this way I can use navigation without draining the battery
luciantm said:
took a bit to get used to the side slide-in (due to usb on the side instead of on the bottom) but it really works great - got the one with cigarette lighter charger - this way I can use navigation without draining the battery
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It makes sense having the usb on the side of the phone on slider designs. With a bottom mounted usb connector the usb cable gets in the way of your hand when charging the phone when you're typing on the keyboard.
brodit.se are making a car dock to the DZ . And I hope that's with a charger .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799621
Correction bordit.se have made 3 car docks 2 with USB Charger.
http://twitpic.com/34p7xl http://twitpic.com/34p7zi http://twitpic.com/34p7vv
I purchased my transformer this evening, along with the keyboard dock. I took both out of the box and plugged in the transformer to the dock and proceeded along with my business. I plugged it in to charge a bit later, and for some reason when the dock is plugged in now after about 1 minute it stops working(both keyboard and touch pad) and the battery icon on the transformer turns into a ?
Should I return the keyboard dock? Does the battery just need to charge up? I am not quite sure but I was quite dissapointed.
Make sure both are charged and then check for updates under about tablet. The old docking firmware used to stop the dock from responding all the time. The latest dock version should be 0209. If you still can't get it to behave then maybe a duff unit and you need to take it back.
hi
fresh implanted a goflex slim 320go in dock
but its a little bit too high the keyboard curves a little and the transformer don't close exact (the hdd is 7mm)
removed battery
maybe is better with a 1,8 inches hdd
don't know if half battery works i will make tests an post in a few days
hdd is not showing on win 7 , how to see it like microsd (folder)? or howto access it through the ccomputer?
(WORKING ON HC3.2!!!!)
thanks for relplies
Niceeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my Transformer TF101
That's cool.
You can't access the drive because it's mounted on the OS while the "SD Card" internal storage is treated as an MDP by your PC not a Mass Storage Device.
Looks like you should try a Seagate Momentus Thin drive (7mm height). The 320GB one is USD$80.
http://google.com/search?q=Seagate+Momentus+st320lt007
Can you post a few pics with everything put back together, I wanna see how much the HD makes the keyboard bow up.
Wow, Love the Idea
you know what makes it better use SSD 120gb drive with now risk and less space needed
Wonderful, OP! Imagine the possibilities if we could boot from HDD in the near future... it shouldn't be too hard assuming we can now boot from microSD, right?
hi thank for advices an replies
i have no idea about android boot etc.....
waiting for windows 8!!!!
finally i removed entire battery i dont know if its working or not! and recenter the hard drive
it fits better and less keyboard deformation
452 grams (battery removed and front weight metal piece) total 1240g
added usb hub 4 port (microhub) for future implementations
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hdd is not showing on win 7 , how to see it like microsd (folder)? or howto access it through the ccomputer?
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It appears that windows won't see anything connected to the keyboard. I had the same trouble because windows won't see an SD card in the keyboard. I have a thread on it with some work arounds. I don't know if the problem is Asus or Android. Hopefully they will fix it. I will talk to the Asus service repair center about it next time I go. If you find a solution, please let me know.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168855
Check here for ways to move data from your computer to the harddrive in your transformer's dock.
Also, do you mind elaborating on how exactly you hooked up your hardrive?
It looks like you added some wires to one of the existing USB ports, but I can't tell exactly what is going on.
hi thanks for the link
hooked with strong adhesive tape
wired the usb microhub to board contacts cutted pins of the usb connector and rewired to it
Thanks for the pictures.
Maybe it's also possible to add a 3g Stick permanently into the dock!
If i understood you right you "added" a USB-Port to an existing. Is it now possible to plug in 3 USB devices? (Your ssd, and 2 other)?
@markolino72
Did you get a clue which pins of the connector are used for usb host?
thanks
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Looks like you should try a Seagate Momentus Thin drive (7mm height). The 320GB one is USD$80.
http://google.com/search?q=Seagate+Momentus+st320lt007
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It *is* a Momentus Thin. The GoFlex Slim 320GB is based around that drive, it just ships in a 9mm external housing (but it looks like the OP has removed that.) A better fit would need a drive less than 7mm thick...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4261/seagate-goflex-slim-320gb-the-worlds-thinnest-external-hdd
I'm curious what a rotating drive does to the dock/tablet's battery life...
4 cables for usb red gren white black
red and black for power
green and white for data
there are two more ports aviable on the added microhub
maybe a usb drive is a better option and keep battery inside dock
(f***ing missed usb port on tablet....grrrrr) this will be a nice mod adding a usb port and 3g dongle on tablet!!!!
markolino72 said:
hi
fresh implanted a goflex slim 320go in dock
but its a little bit too high the keyboard curves a little and the transformer don't close exact (the hdd is 7mm)
removed battery
maybe is better with a 1,8 inches hdd
don't know if half battery works i will make tests an post in a few days
hdd is not showing on win 7 , how to see it like microsd (folder)? or howto access it through the ccomputer?
thanks for relplies
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Cool! but be careful with harddrive. Don't use it in the shaky environments.
That's how I killed my laptop's harddrive once. Also, half of the battery(one cell I assume) might not work if they were connected in serial, but if they were in parallel then it should just decrease capacity.
If you detach all of the cells there is a chance that you will erase controller's memory. So, you won't be able to use dock's battery at all. Battery makers are clever these days, they don't want people replacing old cells with new ones.
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It *is* a Momentus Thin. The GoFlex Slim 320GB is based around that drive, it just ships in a 9mm external housing (but it looks like the OP has removed that.) A better fit would need a drive less than 7mm thick...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4261/seagate-goflex-slim-320gb-the-worlds-thinnest-external-hdd
I'm curious what a rotating drive does to the dock/tablet's battery life...
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I'm guessing the rotating drive isn't nearly as bad for the dock's battery life as completely removing the battery is
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I'm guessing the rotating drive isn't nearly as bad for the dock's battery life as completely removing the battery is
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Yeah, I didn't catch that when I glanced at the pics, thought from the way the dock bowed upwards that he'd put it on top of the battery. A rotating drive that's (presumably) powered on all the time, plus the keyboard and touchpad, USB and card readers, etc. all piggybacked on only the tablet's battery must put a serious hurting on battery life. I'd be amazed if it gets past 3-4 hours -- at which point, why not just buy a netbook? Plenty of them will manage that long or more, with a warranty, an unbowed keyboard, and a heck of a lot more versatility.
I can't see this as being useful beyond the geek "Well, I did it and it worked" value.
well,
I was thinking this for travelling, when i realised that the dock is too heavy to take it arround for only autonomie ,9.5h is pretty enough for me, i haven't make test already but i intent too use the dock plugged if possible
in 320go i can store my music collection,flacs apes i'm a meloman ancd copy the wanted music to the tablet etc...etc when needed and TF souns good!!!!
i thing you are right Aligatro seems my battery d'ont worked anymore tried to resold half and nothing tried to brige "serial" and nothing so maybe DON'T DISCONNECT THE BATTERY
finally I curved the dock by hand gently and its almost flat and closes well
I feel that the keyboard sucks, too heavy ,the best functionality of the dock is too stand the tablet , the mouse sucks too with stupid colors for a mouse pointer
i had to buy a dock for connecting a usb drive......!!!!!
but result is too heavy
the hdd stops frequently with the screen so is not always on only on demand so its nice for copy content to sdcard for use.......anyway you always can unmount it too preseve battery power
i will make a test tomorrow for battery
hi begin battery test
playing music from hdd with wifi and gps off autobacklight
~2h30 for 33% battery ussage so we can expect 7h30 not bad
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Yeah, I didn't catch that when I glanced at the pics, thought from the way the dock bowed upwards that he'd put it on top of the battery. A rotating drive that's (presumably) powered on all the time, plus the keyboard and touchpad, USB and card readers, etc. all piggybacked on only the tablet's battery must put a serious hurting on battery life. I'd be amazed if it gets past 3-4 hours -- at which point, why not just buy a netbook? Plenty of them will manage that long or more, with a warranty, an unbowed keyboard, and a heck of a lot more versatility.
I can't see this as being useful beyond the geek "Well, I did it and it worked" value.
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Well neither do I, except for the 3g-dongel built in.
Maybe I'll give a shot in a bit with that operation...
That is nuts !
Anyway you can stick a 63 inches flat panel also together with a 5.1 all of that with shinny duct tape ?
Hi,
First of all, I don't have any ASUS Transformer tablet, and I have never seen nor used one.
But, I will buy the upcoming ASUS Transformer Prime.
So, my questions are related to the current keyboard dock.
Does the keyboard dock need power to function?
Probably yes. If it is not connected to a power source (like wall power outlet) and the dock's battery is empty, does it take the battery power of the tablet?
How good is the mechanical connection between the dock and the tablet?
I would imagine I will dock and undock quite often. So, I am afraid this dock/undock will loosen the dock?
I saw a trackpad in the dock, but can I use mouse (computer mouse)?
Thanks
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Does the keyboard dock need power to function?
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On mine, the keyboard battery is drained first. When the keyboard battery hits 3% it then begins to drain the tablet battery. The keyboard remains functional even when on the tablet battery. The most recent update made it where even USB attachments function for me when the keyboard batter is drained. So, you only need wall power when both batteries are completely drained.
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How good is the mechanical connection between the dock and the tablet?
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It is surprisingly solid. There are two hook latches in addition to the charging port connector. The tablet is also inserted into a shallow tray which adds even more stability.
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can I use mouse (computer mouse)?
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Yes you can. I have used USB mice, trackballs and various video game controllers without issue.
Don
No the dock doesn't need power as such. It supplies power when charged, when discharged it works the same as a keyboard plugged into a PC. Yes you can use a normal mouse but why? You have a touch screen and a track pad so why plug something else in, why carry more crap round with you. No mouse or track pad will replicate what you get on windows as android doesn't work like that. Best advice I can give is go into a store and have a shot.
Thanks all, it is pretty clear and as exactly as I expected.
I don't plan to carry all this every where. Obviously, I will place the dock at my desk, and will use it as needed.
And it is good that it can take power from the tablet, because I don't like another power cable for the dock.
So, this is perfect!
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gogol said:
Thanks all, it is pretty clear and as exactly as I expected.
I don't plan to carry all this every where. Obviously, I will place the dock at my desk, and will use it as needed.
And it is good that it can take power from the tablet, because I don't like another power cable for the dock.
So, this is perfect!
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Not only can it take power from the tablet, but it can also provide power TO the tablet. In other words, if you have a fully charged keyboard and a nearly drained tablet, you can pop on the keyboard and it will start to charge the tablet from the keyboard's battery. And you never need more than one power cable -- if you plug in the cable to the dock with the tablet attached, they'll both charge (I'm not sure if they charge simultaneously or if one charges first and then the other).
Tab charges first then the dock.
Just ordered a Rearth case from here: http://www.amazon.com/-Rearth-Ringke-Google-Feeling-Premium/dp/B00A81O6D8
Curious if anyone has this case (or a similar type that does not obstruct the top/bottom) and uses a microUSB desktop charger?
I know, I know, this phone supports wireless charging.... but some of us want to 1) charge as fast as possible and 2) have our phone upright on our desk while charging.
I heard that the N4 fits in the GSIII desktop chargers but I doubt they do with any type of case on. Anyone have recommendations for a "universal" or otherwise desktop charger that will work with this phone/case combo? Quick search on eBay turned up this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cellet-Universal-Micro-USB-Desktop-Cradle-Charger-with-Data-Cable-Black-/380531711620
Any thoughts or recommendations?
Might give this a try....
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Multimedia-Music-Phones/dp/B0089VO71U/
Looks like it could be fairly universal and work with smaller cases.
I bought a 'universal ' dock like the one in your eBay Link and I returned it... when docked, the phone balanced on the micro USB connection and wasn't very sturdy as it was top heavy... the slightest movement and it would have fallen sideways