Hi,
First of all, I don't have any ASUS Transformer tablet, and I have never seen nor used one.
But, I will buy the upcoming ASUS Transformer Prime.
So, my questions are related to the current keyboard dock.
Does the keyboard dock need power to function?
Probably yes. If it is not connected to a power source (like wall power outlet) and the dock's battery is empty, does it take the battery power of the tablet?
How good is the mechanical connection between the dock and the tablet?
I would imagine I will dock and undock quite often. So, I am afraid this dock/undock will loosen the dock?
I saw a trackpad in the dock, but can I use mouse (computer mouse)?
Thanks
gogol said:
Does the keyboard dock need power to function?
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On mine, the keyboard battery is drained first. When the keyboard battery hits 3% it then begins to drain the tablet battery. The keyboard remains functional even when on the tablet battery. The most recent update made it where even USB attachments function for me when the keyboard batter is drained. So, you only need wall power when both batteries are completely drained.
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How good is the mechanical connection between the dock and the tablet?
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It is surprisingly solid. There are two hook latches in addition to the charging port connector. The tablet is also inserted into a shallow tray which adds even more stability.
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can I use mouse (computer mouse)?
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Yes you can. I have used USB mice, trackballs and various video game controllers without issue.
Don
No the dock doesn't need power as such. It supplies power when charged, when discharged it works the same as a keyboard plugged into a PC. Yes you can use a normal mouse but why? You have a touch screen and a track pad so why plug something else in, why carry more crap round with you. No mouse or track pad will replicate what you get on windows as android doesn't work like that. Best advice I can give is go into a store and have a shot.
Thanks all, it is pretty clear and as exactly as I expected.
I don't plan to carry all this every where. Obviously, I will place the dock at my desk, and will use it as needed.
And it is good that it can take power from the tablet, because I don't like another power cable for the dock.
So, this is perfect!
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gogol said:
Thanks all, it is pretty clear and as exactly as I expected.
I don't plan to carry all this every where. Obviously, I will place the dock at my desk, and will use it as needed.
And it is good that it can take power from the tablet, because I don't like another power cable for the dock.
So, this is perfect!
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Not only can it take power from the tablet, but it can also provide power TO the tablet. In other words, if you have a fully charged keyboard and a nearly drained tablet, you can pop on the keyboard and it will start to charge the tablet from the keyboard's battery. And you never need more than one power cable -- if you plug in the cable to the dock with the tablet attached, they'll both charge (I'm not sure if they charge simultaneously or if one charges first and then the other).
Tab charges first then the dock.
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When the phone is charging, and i try to use touch, i notice the input is jittery- try pulling down the notification bar on the top, and holding it half way down the screen and looking closely. Scroll with lists and hold your finger in once place - does the list jump around slightly?
Is it just me or everyone?
Maybe I should not use my blackberry charger at work! I will test with the samsung charger at home (the output voltage is the same as the samsung so it shouldnt matter!)
I feel you man! Had the exact same problem with the original Galaxy (i7500) - my unofficial charger made it impossible to type anything: heavy jitter.
Ccl: find a charger with the exact same specs...or just use the official one / or usb cable.
No problems here. typing this using swype While charging and its faultless!
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Well it's better than my Desire which gives you a static charge or electric leak somewhere when charging and you touch the metal bezel.
i read something about this issue in the user manual, the PDF one somewhere in this forum
look it up, and read the battery or charging section
Have the same exact problem with my Original Galaxy S when using a "not-samsung" micro USB charger, with the obvious difference that my screen became completely unusable not just "jittery", it didn't respond to any touch when charging it with that charger.
Use official charger and it'll be fine !
Yup it is mentioned in the user manual, it said the touch screen may not function well due to an unstable power supply. I guess it applies to all touch screen phones.
thanks for the input guys and hopefully this will clear it up for anyone else confused by this.
Last question - am I damaging my phone by charging it on my blackberry charger?
Only one I have at work which is why I ask,
Thanks.
While I cannot confirm whether it will damage the SGS II or not, I can certainly say that when I used to use BB Chargers to charge my Motorola Razr among others that were Mini USB, they ended up ruining the battery life and giving me false readings about the percentage left.
Personaly I would not take the risk for my beloved 600€-phone
nickbarbs said:
Maybe I should not use my blackberry charger at work! I will test with the samsung charger at home (the output voltage is the same as the samsung so it shouldnt matter!)
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Yeah. But is the current the same? It may not be supply enough amperage for stability.
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When the phone is charging, and i try to use touch, i notice the input is jittery- try pulling down the notification bar on the top, and holding it half way down the screen and looking closely. Scroll with lists and hold your finger in once place - does the list jump around slightly?
Is it just me or everyone?
Maybe I should not use my blackberry charger at work! I will test with the samsung charger at home (the output voltage is the same as the samsung so it shouldnt matter!)
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Thats funny my iPhone 3GS does the same thing.
so much for standardising chargers...
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Yeah. But is the current the same? It may not be supply enough amperage for stability.
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I dont know - I just tested and the same thing happens with my old Samsung Galaxy S 1 charger . hmm.
(my phone works just fine.(only while charging via pc). it does jitter when you charge it through mains.
voltage converter?
Since I live in the US and ordered a UK model, will i need a voltage converter + plug adapter for my charger or will a simple plug adapter work just fine?
This phone has capacitative touch screen, and I believe this works on the principle of changes in electric field upon bringing a conductor(read "finger") near the charged display. I suppose during the charging process the leaked current is interfering with this electric field causing those above mentioned problems. Might be substandard charging adapters?
Same problem on my Dell Streak! A good thing to test it is Swype! The line your finger makes when typing goes all over the place!
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Since I live in the US and ordered a UK model, will i need a voltage converter + plug adapter for my charger or will a simple plug adapter work just fine?
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It'll charge over the usb lead from a PC or mains adapter just fine.
I always use pc to charge my phone is it ok ? will it be better charging from AC ?
So my 16gb Asus Transformer has a very strange problem. I have not seen it mentioned anywhere. When I plug my unit into the supplied charger there is NO indication on the device that it is charging. It takes about 10 hours to fully charge.
Here is the really strange part... When I put the device into the keyboard dock, I get a charge symbol on the battery and it says charging. To make things even more strange the cable and wall wart provided with the tablet quick charges the keyboard dock, light is red then turns green when fully charged (no longer then 2 hours so far).
How could the charger charge the dock no problem but not charge the unit itself? My thoughts were that the dock may seat farther into the tablet then the cord does so I took a small file and took off a little of the plastic on the eee pad connector side, that did not help at all. Any ideas?
I have flashed the latest software update, and I have done a "Factory Data Reset" and it will still not "quick charge" from the supplied charger, only from the dock.
ThePCTech
I got the same problem,i don't have the dock.I see a hole next to the camera but when i charge it there is no light,WTF
sj408 said:
I got the same problem,i don't have the dock.I see a hole next to the camera but when i charge it there is no light,WTF
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I must admit that I expected to see a charging light on the pad itself, I think the hole you mention may be the light sensor.
When I use the official charger, I get a lightning bolt symbol and it charges fairly quickly. When I used my Kindle charger or an HTC one and plugged the USB into them, I had no indication it was charging and it was really REALLY slow...
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When I use the official charger, I get a lightning bolt symbol and it charges fairly quickly. When I used my Kindle charger or an HTC one and plugged the USB into them, I had no indication it was charging and it was really REALLY slow...
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The ASUS charger is rated @ 15V 1.2A. Most USB chargers are 5V. USB itself is rated @ 5V. So I donno how it can use 15V via USB. I tried several different chargers with much higher amperage but no luck at all. Quite strange I must say.
Let me clarify, The ASUS Eee Pad has no charging lite on the unit itself. The only indication is in the taskbar on Android 3.0.1. The battery will change from a green battery symbol to a green battery symbol with a lightning bolt on it when it is "Quick Charging".
There are two ways that the device charges, the first is a quick charge (with lightning bolt on batt. symbol), the second is a slower trickle charge (no indication). A quick charge should take about 2 - 3 hours to fully charge. The trickle charge will take up to 12hrs. The ONLY two ways to get a "Quick Charge" is 1. To use the provided charger (came with the unit), and 2. Is to put it in the dock. A trickle charge can be done with ANY other USB port (ie. laptop, desktop, iPod AC adapter, ect.).
My ASUS Eee Pad Transformer will ONLY "Quick Charge" with the dock. The cable provided with the unit will NOT "Quick Charge" my device.
Anyone else have this? If so do you have a fix?
ThePCTech
FIXED!
Ok, so here is the deal...
I ordered a 32gb version and I'm givving the 16 version to my wife. I tried the new plug in the old tablet and the same thing happened. So I thought it MUST be the tablet and NOT the charger as I thought it was.
Looking into the bottom of the tablet I noticed a pin that looked like it was bent. If you look into the socket with the screen facing up. The 4th or 5th pin was bent up and not sitting in the track like it should have been. I compaired this to the new 32gb version. I used a needle to gently move it into place and tried again and it charged as it should with both cables. Newegg offered to replace the unit, but everything else works great on it and, now it chages just fine. I'll just keep it.
ThePCTech
If anyone else is having a problem take a look into the socket of the tablet, it could be a quick fix.
i fixed my charging problem by doing a factory reset.........wow...
Same problem
I have the exact same problem, but mine didn't start until I applied an update from asus.
I think I may have *had* the same problem. I returned my transformer to sears after it would not charge. After my return a clearance sticker was placed on it and now after reading this thread I am considering repurchasing the transformer and getting a new adapter. But I am concerned that it may be something wrong with the tablet itself. This thread leads me to conclude it is the former. But what do you think?
I was not able to charge through the adapter - however, when connected through the USB cord my laptop did recognize it. I did not leave it connected for longer than 10minutes -I guess if i left it in for 12hrs plus I would have a conclusive answer - but to late for that now..
I got the tablet today -it had 5% battery and after trying three outlets it shutdown- it would restart and not get past the homescreen (which had the time and stated to connect the charger and the lock) it would then shutdown.
In the 20 minutes I was able to use my transformer it worked great
sj408 said:
I got the same problem,i don't have the dock.I see a hole next to the camera but when i charge it there is no light,WTF
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The "hole" next to the camera is the light sensor.
thepctech said:
So my 16gb Asus Transformer has a very strange problem. I have not seen it mentioned anywhere. When I plug my unit into the supplied charger there is NO indication on the device that it is charging. It takes about 10 hours to fully charge.
Here is the really strange part... When I put the device into the keyboard dock, I get a charge symbol on the battery and it says charging. To make things even more strange the cable and wall wart provided with the tablet quick charges the keyboard dock, light is red then turns green when fully charged (no longer then 2 hours so far).
How could the charger charge the dock no problem but not charge the unit itself? My thoughts were that the dock may seat farther into the tablet then the cord does so I took a small file and took off a little of the plastic on the eee pad connector side, that did not help at all. Any ideas?
I have flashed the latest software update, and I have done a "Factory Data Reset" and it will still not "quick charge" from the supplied charger, only from the dock.
ThePCTech
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Your unit is working correctly. There is no charging indicator on the tablet only on the dock. The tablet show charge status via software in the lower right corner of the display or in setup which will show percentage.
When you connect the unit to the dock, the tablet is charged via the batteries in the dock. The goal is to ensure that tablet is as charged as possible so you can undock and go knowing the tablet is charged. The charging from the dock to the tablet will only occur if the tablet is below 97%. The indicator light on the dock only refers to the charge status of the battery on the dock, not the tablet.
Someone referenced the little light on the front next to the camera, that is not a light. It is an ambient light sensor for the tablet.
The colors for the charge light indicator on the dock are documented in the manual. As I remember it they are <10% quickly flashing orange, 10-50% slowly flashing orange, 50-95% orange, 95%+ green.
I am also having charging problems with my Transformer.
Everything seems to work fine when I used the supplied charger and the USB plug, both with dock and with just the transformer itself.
However I'm presently away and only took the USB cable with me. I've plugged the USB cable into my travel multiplug, which has a usb slot as well and I'm getting no charge at all, either on the dock or the transformer itself. Also the battery is showing that it is actually draining, even while connected to the multiplug. I've also tried connecting both the dock and the transformer to my juicepack (rated at 3.7V, 4,800mAh), but no luck with that as well.
Anyone else had these problems?
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The Transformer will only charge by USB using the supplied wall adapter. Not sure why that is, but that's been my experience.
my problem too.. I got mine yesterday and updated the software straight away. it charged all night and charging worked on both the pad itself and the keyboard.
today it doeasnt..
the cable and the sockets are fine (my pc sees it and did some file transfers) so hardware seems ok. the charger gets quite hot though. does anybody experience the same? maybe its the charger? I wonder if factory reset would help...
browngeek said:
I am also having charging problems with my Transformer.
Everything seems to work fine when I used the supplied charger and the USB plug, both with dock and with just the transformer itself.
However I'm presently away and only took the USB cable with me. I've plugged the USB cable into my travel multiplug, which has a usb slot as well and I'm getting no charge at all, either on the dock or the transformer itself. Also the battery is showing that it is actually draining, even while connected to the multiplug. I've also tried connecting both the dock and the transformer to my juicepack (rated at 3.7V, 4,800mAh), but no luck with that as well.
Anyone else had these problems?
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the wall plug that came with the TF is rated for 5V-15V, 2-12A. This is a lot higher than normal USB, which is 5V,1A max. When you plug it into a normal USB jack, you are only in trickle charge mode, and i think it's only with the screen off.
Finally was able to get the dock today for my TF.
So... how do I tell how much battery is remaining in the dock? I was hoping it would show them separately.
Also, is there instructions anywhere for this thing? ie. why the number 1 and number 6 keys are solid white circles?
Anything else I need to know?
Thanks.
The 1/6 cirlces are standard ASUS keyboard labeling. It allows a quick refererence point for keys.
My battery monitor widget shows an estimate of 10h46min on a full charge. Shouldn't it be 16 hours? I guess it's not recognizing the dock battery too? Anything I need to change?
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My battery monitor widget shows an estimate of 10h46min on a full charge. Shouldn't it be 16 hours? I guess it's not recognizing the dock battery too? Anything I need to change?
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Actually the battery for the Dock is rated at 9.5 hours. Your 16 hours is when you COMBINE the tablet and dock together......THEN you MIGHT get 16 hours depending on what you do.
Sorry, the dock wasn't fully charged yet when I typed that. I wonder if that widget shows the combined dock & TF battery time together.
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Sorry, the dock wasn't fully charged yet when I typed that. I wonder if that widget shows the combined dock & TF battery time together.
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Just got my keyboard about 2 hours ago. I am charging it per the instructions but have a question. How do you know how much charge is on the keyboard? Does the battery widget on the TF show one for keyboard and one for pad? Also how important is it to charge for 8 hours before even hooking the keyboard up? Any and all help and info and input is greatly appreciated.
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Just got my keyboard about 2 hours ago. I am charging it per the instructions but have a question. How do you know how much charge is on the keyboard? Does the battery widget on the TF show one for keyboard and one for pad? Also how important is it to charge for 8 hours before even hooking the keyboard up? Any and all help and info and input is greatly appreciated.
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I docked it right away and it's still charging. I never heard of charging it without the TF attached. Does it matter??? :S
From what I can tell, the only way of seeing how much of a charge there is on the dock, is by the little light by the 40pin connecter slot. Orange = not full. Green is good to go. And I'm wondering about the battery widget myself.
I've got some similar confusion. I had the keyboard plugged up by itself for a few hours assuming it would charge, but when I unplug the power and plug in the tablet, it won't charge it.
There is no way to tell how much juice the dock has in it.
Asus should fix this.
-bZj
just to ask you-now i have 7% battery ,when the dock will begin to work...i've to put the pad in the dock and wait till the battery slow down full,ok?
I've noticed now that the dock battery charges the tablet when the tablet is below 97%. I guess that's how it works. Would be nice if Asus would give us some sort of information instead of having to trying to figure it out ourselves. Jeez.
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I docked it right away and it's still charging. I never heard of charging it without the TF attached. Does it matter??? :S
From what I can tell, the only way of seeing how much of a charge there is on the dock, is by the little light by the 40pin connecter slot. Orange = not full. Green is good to go. And I'm wondering about the battery widget myself.
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I let it charge (just the dock) for about 14 hours and it evidently charged to the max as the green light came on. I then connected the TF and all seems to be working smoothly. Hard for me to believe that Asus would put out a product(keyboard dock) which appears to have great quality and leave out something as important(to me) as a battery indicator. I did receive the update for the keyboard as soon as I plugged the TF in this morning so that is a plus. I am not fond of the lagging when typing on the keybosrd, I would hope that they will fix this.
I purchased my transformer this evening, along with the keyboard dock. I took both out of the box and plugged in the transformer to the dock and proceeded along with my business. I plugged it in to charge a bit later, and for some reason when the dock is plugged in now after about 1 minute it stops working(both keyboard and touch pad) and the battery icon on the transformer turns into a ?
Should I return the keyboard dock? Does the battery just need to charge up? I am not quite sure but I was quite dissapointed.
Make sure both are charged and then check for updates under about tablet. The old docking firmware used to stop the dock from responding all the time. The latest dock version should be 0209. If you still can't get it to behave then maybe a duff unit and you need to take it back.
I purchased the keyboard dock and if the tablet is on the dock it drains battery quickly. I have to shut off the tablet to save battery.
Does anyone have any suggestion....
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I purchased the keyboard dock and if the tablet is on the dock it drains battery quickly. I have to shut off the tablet to save battery.
Does anyone have any suggestion....
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I have not had mine for too long so I cannot comment about the battery life in the dock. Personally I do boot use the dock unless I need to type a long document.
Do you have anything plugged in to the dock? I wouldn't think the usb ports would be pulling any power without something plugged in.
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I have not had mine for too long so I cannot comment about the battery life in the dock. Personally I do boot use the dock unless I need to type a long document.
Do you have anything plugged in to the dock? I wouldn't think the usb ports would be pulling any power without something plugged in.
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No, nothing plugged into the dock. Just placing it with the lid closed in my case. The blue power light on the keyboard and tablet both stay lit when connected and these must be drawing power
Hmmmm
I haven't seen this on mine. It could be a connections issue, which would mean you could have a defective dock, or tablet. I haven't kept mine in the dock for a long time, but I do use it a bit. Just so happens I left in on the dock all day Saturday as I was busy and unable to use it. I found it to have normal battery drain, that is why I say you might have something going on with connection, or a drain from something else. Sorry, hope it gets worked out for you.