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kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/...pdate-now-rolling-out-across-europe/#comments
kinda sad that a phone thats been out for almost a year is getting gingerbread before the atrix. i think its ATT's fault. they seem to delay OS updates, at least they did for the captivate. both rogers and bell got froyo months before att. maybe ATT wants to make sure all the features it wants disabled are in working like wifi hotspot?
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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Magic_Bunny said:
True. Im already regretting buying my Atrix, too late to return it though. But also Motorola was asking for beta testers to sign up to test 2.3.
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motorola is getting beta testers for gingerbread? did they put up a sign up like for the update or just announce it?
Motor is asking for beta testers? If so...then GB will be released
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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Motorola isnt beta testing 2.3
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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it makes sense that the phone that's been out for a year gets it first....
since google released the 2.3 source code, the company has been doing nothing but preparing an update most likely. motorola however, needed to iron out kinks in their initial 2.2 release before they can consider developing a 2.3 OS, and then allowing carriers to modify it to your liking.
obviously you didn't think about what has to be done to come up with a polished 2.3 update before it can be released as an official OTA update. you really can't fault motorola for this not being out yet. it takes a lot of time, testing, and effort to release a finished product.
Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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Raybond, I agree with everything you said, but its hard to cut Motorola any slack for this when the phone should have come with 2.3 in the first place. On top of that they lock the bootloader so we cant get 2.3 working on our own either....
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well, the problem is that they probably started dev for the atrix's OS before 2.3 was released, so it would have been even more work, and probably would have caused delays in their release of the phone if they had shipped it with 2.3
I know locked bootloader is a massive drag for 3rd party dev, but you really can't fault moto for any decisions they've made with this phone other than that.
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Looks like this is for unbranded galaxy s phones though. In the US it takes longer cause the carriers are modding the OS to add all their useless bloatware crappola an it's usually the carrier that pushes the updates not the manufacturer. But hopefully with the update to enable hsupa we get a couple of extra goodies.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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I guess this is the price we pay for having a subsidized drvice. Unfortunately... although we pay double for it in years of service.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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not really, you are going to be paying a carrier either way just without a contract. the cost of the subsidy doesnt get added to your bill. either this or buy a phone for full price like in europe.
i read that google is going to be releasing ice cream sandwich sometime this summer. maybe motorola is going to skip gingerbread? i wouldnt mind waiting until the end of the year if it means we get 2.4.
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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+1.
I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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EDIT:
My fault!!!! Sorry guys!!!
I didn't read the whole post from moto forum. At the end of that post there is an edit, that says it was about the 1.5.7 update we already got! My mistake, my fault, sorry
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You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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actually you're not skipping honeycomb....
honeycomb is a totally different series in Android OS, tablet-specific series to be precise (3.0)
So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
ccrows said:
You would have to skip over "Gingerbread" AND "Honeycomb" to get to ICS.
That's not gonna happen...
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
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So, gingerbread is 2.3, and ICS is 2.4. Also, rumour has it that ICS will have full dual-core support, so it would make logical sense for Moto to not waste any time with 2.3 and go straight for dev in 2.4
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i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
Paschalis said:
Yes moto does.
I read it on moto official forum.
And you need to fill a form or something before a date...
I would if my phone wasn't unlocked..
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link please?
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ice creme sandwich is a blend features of both gingerbread and honeycomb made specifically for phones. you will not be seeing honeycomb on an android phone backed by google. that one reason google is not releasing honeycomb source yet, they dont want to have honeycomb phones out there.
i thought gingerbread is suppost to be optimized for dual cores too.
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i believe that it has some modicum of support for dual core, but is not completely optimized for it as 2.4 will be.
that's just my understanding, if someone could provide a link to prove me wrong then i'd freely accept it.
Gingerbread as currently released for SGS has some glitches but guess what Samsung just released the source code! So we should be seeing fixes and tricked out kernels/ROMS/system apps very soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12992329&posted=1#post12992329
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I'll believe it when I see it myself!
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I saw the signup sheet too. It never hurts to waste a little time each day looking through these forums. I swear I saw a link for it. I looked at it and saw some sign up thingy on Motorola's website.
Gingerbread sources out
http://opensource.samsung.com/
Yes, yes, YES!!!
**Simply Honey 3.0, Voodoo GB hack, JVE modem**
Is it really out? Is this one it GT-I9000_OpenSource_GB.zip ??
Don't mind me saying, but that's fast! Very good news indeed.
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So early... wow samsung
Samsung galaxy s
And now comes supercurio and hardcore ;D awesome news!
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Awesome!
I'm actually curious, what other manufacturers release source code and how promptly do they do it?
It comes really fast, I'm impressed and big thanks to Samsung, custom kernels in the way !
Nice, cant wait to see the kernels start rolling in
Dear Samsung, Thanks.
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Awesome!
I'm actually curious, what other manufacturers release source code and how promptly do they do it?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe all manufacturers are bound by the GPL license of the Linux-derived kernel to publish the source code every time they release a new kernel to the public (i.e., their users). In practice, this means they will publish a new kernel source code with each new phone and each new version of Android (2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc.). Also, if there are any critical updates that they have to apply to the kernel, they will publish that too, but such situations aren't that common. Most of the big manufacturers will publish their source code within a week of releasing their latest Android upgrade or phone.
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Wow, Go Samsung, freaking awesome, can't wait, this is going to be an amazing week!
err am i blind? i cant see anything there. ???
edit: oops, forgot to log in. my bad sorry..
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err am i blind? i cant see anything there. ???
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Yeah, you are blind. Like in that song: "stop and stare".
Chedburn said:
Yeah, you are blind. Like in that song: "stop and stare".
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"I think I'm moving but I go no whereee"
cashyftw said:
"I think I'm moving but I go no whereee"
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yeah,i know that everyone gets scared
Samsung know the problems will be fixed quickly once sources released....
Galaxy s has an awesome dev team.
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thanks samsung...
come on XDA kernel developers..
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Samsung know the problems will be fixed quickly once sources released....
Galaxy s has an awesome dev team.
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and we are indebted to you -thank you Tricky. Cant what to see what you can make of SGS GB, if its anything like what Froyo has evolved to, then good things will come
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In practice, this means they will publish a new kernel source code with each new phone and each new version of Android (2.1, 2.2, 2.3, etc.).
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Correct me if I'm wrong as well, but, at 125MB, this seems like more than kernel source code. The kernel patches are GPL'd, but the rest of Android is released by Google under the Apache License, meaning (as we've seen) manufacturers don't have to release any source code of customizations like blur, or sense. (see wikipedia for android, under licensing -- I had a link here, but I'm not allowed to post it until I reach 8 posts)
And if this is a 125mb kernel source download, just ignore this post...
Edit: After taking a look inside, there's both kernel source and some platform source code (I'm seeing things like webkit, bluetooth, email...), so at least some of this looks to be optionally-released stuff.
Urgent!! Android Honeycomb 3.0 Kernel Needed! Kenia and Chile in i9000 forums have done it. Actual Android 3.0 on galaxy S. We need a compatible kernel. Anyone interested?
Link to the New Honeycomb 3.0 Thread!! It's Real!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116161
All I see in that forum is Sense 3.0 being ported over to the galaxy S... not Android 3.0... besides, no source for Android 3.0 has been outed yet because "its not ready yet" according to Google.
Considering that there is no Honeycomb sources, they're probably just using my kernel to boot it (same as they are doing for the sense roms).
Kenia1234 said:
I see HONEYCOMB in the air guys!!!!
Maybe tonight!!
by K&C!!
STAY TUNED and LOOK AT THE NEW THREAD tonight before going to bed...
PS K&C stands for Kenia and Chile!! LOL
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Kenia1234 said:
I already did it...
testing and uploading right now...
PS Thanks to the powerful kernel of Chile of course!!
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From the mouth of the Creators themselves!!
Escapist! I think its time to work your serious magic tonight. hahah.
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I thought Honeycomb was for tablets? ... why would we want it on our Captivates?
redeuxx said:
I thought Honeycomb was for tablets? ... why would we want it on our Captivates?
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This is android man. The answer to all "why" questions is because we can!
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Link to their honeycomb thread in Original Post.
insaneturbo13 said:
This is android man. The answer to all "why" questions is because we can!
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But it would be pointless since none of the phone functions work. Now if I can get Honeycomb with working phone functions then I'll take that, but until then -- not interested.
Ice Cream > Honeycomb
Kyuta Syuko said:
But it would be pointless since none of the phone functions work. Now if I can get Honeycomb with working phone functions then I'll take that, but until then -- not interested.
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Im pretty sure once they figure out data on their sense rom then theyll be that much closer to data on honeycomb also.
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Ice Cream > Honeycomb
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haha well once you begin to port Ice Cream to captivate then go and talk all the crap you want about honeycomb. Until that time has come, we should sit back and enjoy this year old device's constant development. The grass is always greener!
C'mon guys... Yeah, this'll probably never be a usable ROM, just like the Sense port, but it's cool as hell that they can even get it to boot. Let us nerds enjoy it .
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C'mon guys... Yeah, this'll probably never be a usable ROM, just like the Sense port, but it's cool as hell that they can even get it to boot. Let us nerds enjoy it .
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plus, the sgs touch rom makers may think this is pretty neat, make voodoo run on this and make it into a honeycomb mp3 player
+1 for the honeycomb player
You don't need a kernel. Everything is broken anyway.. the i9000 kernel will do for now.
any news for captivate?
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any news for captivate?
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Yes, Honeycomb is designed for tablets. Enjoy the hard work the devs have put into the Froyo/Gingerbread ROMS and wait patiently for Ice Cream Sandwich sometime in the future.
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/20/android-3-2-detailed-supports-7-inch-displays-qualcomm-cpus/
That's good news it will support smaller displays 7 is a lot closer to 4.3 then before
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its funny how everyone was b**ching about froyo taking too long....then people couldn't wait for GB. Now that its been leaked and is working for our phone, people want honeycomb.
can anyone be happy with what they have? just curious - lol
What do you guys think? can it run on the G2/DZ?
i think it might be able to. looking at the code, it might be able to run some things. plus, the galaxy nexus has only a 5mp camera. the G2 has a 5mp camera as well, so it could be capable of some ICS camera features, maybe all of it. i am keeping my fingers cross that ICS can work on this phone!
If it can run on both Nexus S and Nexus One, i don't see why not on G2?
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If it can run on both Nexus S and Nexus One, i don't see why not on G2?
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Where did you get this info?
there was a basic honeycomb port a while back, and thats before we had a real source for honeycomb. Now that we'll have the ICS source, we should be able to run it. It'll just take time to get developers (and google) to have a working release.
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Where did you get this info?
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Its already been shown running on the Nexus S.
If it can run on the Nexus S, it will definitely run on here. I'm ready for it.
honestly from looking at it id be willing to run just stock rooted ICS, without any sort of special ROM on top, it looks fantastic and if it happens ill at least make it one of my boots in boot manager, looks to be top notch and im so excited for devs to get it working on the G2! they have all of my support!
of course it can run on our visions and it will...........soon!!!!
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honestly from looking at it id be willing to run just stock rooted ICS, without any sort of special ROM on top, it looks fantastic and if it happens ill at least make it one of my boots in boot manager, looks to be top notch and im so excited for devs to get it working on the G2! they have all of my support!
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Stock would just be fine with me! My guess is anything above stock, like a sense version of ICS, it will take up too much memory and perhaps slow the phone down.
I hope whoever (cyanogen? ) can get it running. That would be a great thing! I want my G2 to last one more year with the latest software. After that, the next nexus is what I will be aiming for
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c00ller said:
Where did you get this info?
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There were browser comparisons during the presentation that showed Nexus S with 2.3 and 4.0, compared to Galaxy Nexus on 4.0
who is waiting for a sdk port
where would we go to follow the progress on it being ported for DZ???
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where would we go to follow the progress on it being ported for DZ???
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Guess you'll see if any threads pop up in the coming weeks.
martonikaj said:
Its already been shown running on the Nexus S.
If it can run on the Nexus S, it will definitely run on here. I'm ready for it.
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its confirmed that nexus s is going to get it. also, according to Cohen and Engadget who asked him, any 2.3 device can run it (theoretically).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/
if that is true, then for sure the G2/DZ will have it working!! dont want to get my hopes up though
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Its already been shown running on the Nexus S.
If it can run on the Nexus S, it will definitely run on here. I'm ready for it.
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C.Flat said:
There were browser comparisons during the presentation that showed Nexus S with 2.3 and 4.0, compared to Galaxy Nexus on 4.0
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OK, I knew about the Nexus S, but Hawon also said it can run on the Nexus One. I was wondering where he heard that.
Unfortunately, we're all going to have to wait until sometime after the source code is released and the CM team can get it working. As far as an official update, I don't think so unless HTC itself posts an update.
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Unfortunately, we're all going to have to wait until sometime after the source code is released and the CM team can get it working. As far as an official update, I don't think so unless HTC itself posts an update.
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source code is released!!
and damn who needs sense anymore LOL.... i only used sense cos of the auto contacts linking...but now that ICS has it already....
btw...what is bootmanager that someone mentioned above?
deaththeorist said:
source code is released!!
and damn who needs sense anymore LOL.... i only used sense cos of the auto contacts linking...but now that ICS has it already....
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I think you may be confusing the source code with the SDK. The SDK for ICS is out now, but the source code is not.
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steviewevie said:
I think you may be confusing the source code with the SDK. The SDK for ICS is out now, but the source code is not.
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my bad
*hides head in hole
ohcanada said:
who is waiting for a sdk port
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Well, SDK ports always blow but it will be fun to tinker with. That's the point of it though
sino8r said:
Well, SDK ports always blow but it will be fun to tinker with. That's the point of it though
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Oh crud...I thought the sdk was what is used to the build the rom. Looks like, based on what everyone said, it will take awhile before we see a ics rom out
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I have spoke with some people from motorola and asked some questions related to general business but also for upgrading Atrix with ICS.
I'm pasting here some answers without mentioning names, I think that this may show that motorola is doing more than they are ready to publicly say in this moment. To be on safe side You can think about this as rumor.
On Software upgrades, I wasn't aware of an announcement regarding ICS and ATRIX. Although Motorola tends to announce what it will do, not what it won't do, it doesn't mean it won't happen. You may be right, but I don't know the current status... The challenge we have with ATRIX however is Webtop, the full linux OS which sits within Froyo/Gingerbread... I imagine this has delayed any comment. The ideal scenario would be to upgrade all phones to the latest software, and I see that almost all high-end (non web top) phones have had ICS upgrade confirmed.
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Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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Official ics would probably suck too. Motorola would probably put blur on top of it.
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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Agreed, but..... If they actually release a version of ICS for the atrix, it can be DEblurred and retain the webtop. So if one carrier actually releases ICS for the atrix we would be set..
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What we need are drivers, webtop and kernels, and they will give us these if this is true
thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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Us GB members JUST got the 2.3 update...
If we think optimisticly, then MAYBE 2014 could be a safe bet.
But ONLY if... - If Motorola are faster than usual
Son of a *****. I got really excited.
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somebody should move this thread away from this section and/or append "-RUMOR" to its name . I was having an heart attack.
Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
drvon said:
Its been stated by Nivida that they will be releasing the ics drivers and binarys for there terga 2 and 3 chip sets in the new year. That thread was in the general section awhile ago. So we will get ics through other channels.
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are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
damn, i almost having a heart attack after reading this thread's title
da fuq
munchy_cool said:
are we talking about 2011 or 2012 ?
OP,
wrong place dude, but who depends on Moto for ICS when you have some awesome devs in here ..
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They had sad early 2012
Here's the post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371486
I'm not sure that drivers are anymore issue since we saw from google ICS
for xoom which is same platform as atrix.
guidoido004 said:
thats a lie dude ;D
Motorola's problem in releasing ICS is not WebTop's fault, is nvidia's! they will not release ICS drivers and sources, not until motorola pays them some good money.
So, our hope for now is that motorola pays for ics on xoom and then make a "hacked driver" of it to the phones with tegra2....
Please close or more the thread to general.
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What a tease!
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Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
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Sorry for tease it was not my intention, I just wanted to share some inside knowledge which I gain trough unofficial channels, anyway I will try to make it up for that
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Perfectly acceptable titles:
- Unofficial information from Motorla regarding ICS for the Atrix
- I contacted Motorola regarding ICS for the Atrix, here's the answer
- If you were wondering about Motorola's stand on ICS for the Atrix, here it is
- So I decided to contact Motorola about ICS for the Atrix
Do you understand how the title is misleading enough for it to pass as obvious trolling? Don't apologize, just change the god damned title so people won't read it and get excited over some unofficial comments that do not really say ANYTHING at all about current development for the Atrix.
Thank you and have a good one.
hoodlikegaza said:
This does not belong in dev you IDIOT.
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I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
dicksteele said:
I gave you a thanks for this post for being an outstanding contribution to humanity. If there were only more like you in the world, what a wonderful place it would be.
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Why don't you give me thanks you idiot!?
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Since motorola needs to upgrade RAZR to ICS (they publicly committed that they will do it) it means that webtop will be rewrite for ICS so it's possible that they will
user webtop for RAZR in ICS for atrix.
Only after Google's control.