[Q] Wifi and talk - EVO 4G General

When your phone is rooted and you are able to use your phone as a Wifi hot spot, can you surf the web and talk at the same time? Thanks!

I believe that would only be possible when you are connected with 4G. Otherwise you can only tether and surf.

You can do that whether you're rooted or not. Same with 4g
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metalfan78 said:
You can do that whether you're rooted or not. Same with 4g
We're comin from a pure power source.
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I have Sprint. I have never used my Evo as a hot spot but I have a friend that has. She states she can't use it as wifi and talk on the phone. Meaning surf the web while on a call...

im0rtalz said:
I believe that would only be possible when you are connected with 4G. Otherwise you can only tether and surf.
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Correct, CDMA networks don't allow communication and data transfer at the same time i believe... some GSM's with sim cards can though. T-Mobile i believe.

So why is it while on 4g watching a streaming movie through HDMI, I can get a call, answer it, have a convo, and the movie is never interrupted? I thought the 4g radio was seperate from the mobile/3g radios?
Not trying to discredit anyone just a question.
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[Q] Is it possible to use data on the phone while on a voice call?

Long time AT&T customer probably switching to Sprint, been eyeing the Epic..
If I get a voice call, is it possible (if I'm using a BT headset or speakerphone) to fire up a web browser on it and use that while I'm in-call? To look things up, or whatever?
If it can't do that, are there any other Sprint phones that can (EVO, for example?)
Thanks!
if i remember right, you can use data and voice only when you are connected onto 4G and WIFI, but not 3G. i have not tested this out yet to confirm but i remember reading that somewhere if i read it right. i also came from att (iphone) and being able to use data (3G) and voice at the same time was a major plus. ill have to try it out though later on my epic.
Yes u can use data while on a call only if you are on WiFi or 4g. Tested and verified.
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Well, drat. Thanks fellas. Not that I do that very often, but it does come in handy. I checked and EVO "suffers" from the same problem.
Again, thanks, that's handy to know.
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
Aridon said:
Its a cdma limitation, not a device one. Both sprint and verizon have this issue.
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Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
yeah, i experience the same thing. it's becoming pretty much a deal breaker for me, as often i am on the phone for an hour or more and am trying to look things up at the same time. no joy. plus the abysmal battery life has me glad that i am still in the 30 day window ?; i like the phone a lot otherwise. wish i could get it for ATT. i have never had problems with their service, and would love to be able to talk and surf at the same time.
On 3g only voice.
On 4g voice n data simultaneous
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remedy22 said:
Some might say it is a "limitation", however is it the reason why cdma networks do not suffer from dropped calls like gsm networks do.
For more information, you can check out this rather lengthy post about why cdma is better than gsm.
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+1 you can thank the iPhone and this great "feature" for the ****ty network over at ATT

HTC Thunderbolt Voice/Data simultaneously over 3G?

what!!!!?!?!!?
Thunderbolt review
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/htc-thunderbolt-review/
The HTC ThunderBolt is able to send and receive data and carry voice calls simultaneously. It the first of many Verizon Wireless smartphones that will be able to carry voice calls while moving data, and it can do so over Verizon’s new 4G LTE network as well as its older 3G EVDO network. I tested this capability a great deal over the past week, and it has worked flawlessly for me. Whether connected to 3G or 4G, apps and web pages on the ThunderBolt continue to hustle along while voice calls are being made. I’m not sure if this new technology plays a role in the noticeably degraded audio quality I noted above, but the functionality is there so and many users will be elated.
either i am miss understanding this part or verizon enabled something to allow voice/data over their 3g cdma network
IceCreaMan said:
what!!!!?!?!!?
Thunderbolt review
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/28/htc-thunderbolt-review/
The HTC ThunderBolt is able to send and receive data and carry voice calls simultaneously. It the first of many Verizon Wireless smartphones that will be able to carry voice calls while moving data, and it can do so over Verizon’s new 4G LTE network as well as its older 3G EVDO network. I tested this capability a great deal over the past week, and it has worked flawlessly for me. Whether connected to 3G or 4G, apps and web pages on the ThunderBolt continue to hustle along while voice calls are being made. I’m not sure if this new technology plays a role in the noticeably degraded audio quality I noted above, but the functionality is there so and many users will be elated.
either i am miss understanding this part or verizon enabled something to allow voice/data over their 3g cdma network
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Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
Happy to hear it...just ordered my tbolt. Should be here tomorrow. I never used the feature but since i can now....im sure i will use it alot.
Thats pretty neat....but it sucks that you cant turn off 4g....and battery life using LTE and the Thunderbolt seems to be on par with Wimax and the Evo.
TonyArmstrong said:
Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
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My touch, pro 2 had svdo
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skillzo1 said:
Happy to hear it...just ordered my tbolt. Should be here tomorrow. I never used the feature but since i can now....im sure i will use it alot.
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You canceled your sprint account?
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TonyArmstrong said:
Verizon is implementing SVDO which allows voice and data simultaneously. Its an evolution of EVDO.
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Ahh sweet! Come on Sprint
DarkManX4lf said:
Thats pretty neat....but it sucks that you cant turn off 4g....and battery life using LTE and the Thunderbolt seems to be on par with Wimax and the Evo.
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Most ppl have been using the app "Phone Info" from the market to force the phone to use CDMA/EvDO data which turns of the 4g radio
Later today i am...waiting for my tbolt in the mail. Im tired of sprints data issues.
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You canceled your sprint account?
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It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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You can do the same with wifi
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JUST2SUAVE said:
You can do the same with wifi
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Werd.....
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Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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Except that you can find ways of turning off LTE and using just EVDO, saving battery and the annoyance of having to constantly turn on WiMax.
Sean-El said:
It's the same as turning on your 4G, getting on the internet and the talking on the phone. Come one use your common sense.
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JUST2SUAVE said:
You can do the same with wifi
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Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
IceCreaMan said:
Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
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You might need to check that boat schedule, yourself. The 3G and LTE antennas/radios are separate, just like Sprint's 3G and 4G. So, if you live on a market that Verizon has yet to light up their LTE and you'll be in the same boat.
I would hazard a guess that the reason you've not seen either Verizon or Sprint actually promote simultanious voice/data as AT&T does is that it's limited to markets where they've lit up LTE/4G.
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Vegasden said:
You might need to check that boat schedule, yourself. The 3G and LTE antennas/radios are separate, just like Sprint's 3G and 4G. So, if you live on a market that Verizon has yet to light up their LTE and you'll be in the same boat.
I would hazard a guess that the reason you've not seen either Verizon or Sprint actually promote simultanious voice/data as AT&T does is that it's limited to markets where they've lit up LTE/4G.
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That's assuming that this isn't SVDO which is 3G/EVDO and completely unrelated to LTE.
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Award Tour said:
That's assuming that this isn't SVDO which is 3G/EVDO and completely unrelated to LTE.
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This is exactly what's going on.
Verizon is rolling out SVDO, as I mentioned earlier. Proof comes from the following link: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/simultaneous-voice-data-coming-to-cdma
It can be -- and is apparently being -- done.
IceCreaMan said:
Both of you missed the boat...duh try voice and data at the sametime in an area where there is no 4g or WiFi and see if it works for ya. The answer is no but apparently Verizon is learning that users want this feature and has been enabling it on certain devices. Now we just need sprint to follow
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Area with no wifi? If I'm in my house I have it. or in any cafe also
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JUST2SUAVE said:
Area with no wifi? If I'm in my house I have it. or in any cafe also
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A whole two places? Amazing.
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Award Tour said:
A whole two places? Amazing.
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Every where in my city has wifi, you must live in a cave or the mountains.
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Loving SII wi fi hot spot

My wife has my old galaxy s with no data plan, I on the other hand do, when we're together I start my portable wifi hot spot, and hey presto she has internet connection !, I assume this is perfectly legal ?
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Yup as long as you are willing to pay for it.
So do you have too pay for data accessed via tethering ?
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leeboy22001 said:
So do you have too pay for data accessed via tethering ?
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Depends on your plan. If you,have the standard plan then once you go over your limit and if att catches you they will force you to get a teathering plan.
On the other hand I'm on a cheapest dumphone plan and run my SGS2 off my old Evo Sprint Wimax hotspot. Fast fast fast! No data accumulated on Att.
Isn't the WiFi tethering only available with your 3G?
Can you connect to WiFi on your phone and tether it to some other phone?
Sure.....s'what I been doing. Running my Samsung sg2 on sprints Wimax. No way I can live with ATT speeds. To gooda phone far that.
The pending Att GS2 will of course access a little better speeds on Att but I'll be hopefully back to Sprint using the Within... Or...Possibly T-Mobile Samsung Hercules. This all of course only til the Nexus Prime breaks lol!
rockky said:
Sure.....s'what I been doing. Running my Samsung sg2 on sprints Wimax. No way I can live with ATT speeds. To gooda phone far that.
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No you're connecting with data (3G) and tethering it on.
I mean, can the phone connect to a WiFi network, then make a WiFi hotspot and let other phones connect to that? I think not.
gaui said:
No you're connecting with data (3G) and tethering it on.
I mean, can the phone connect to a WiFi network, then make a WiFi hotspot and let other phones connect to that? I think not.
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I know I'm missing something here!... But my samsung is using wifi, (with network off) and connected to Spring Wimax...often with ITS data off.
I still make and receive calls on the Samsung.
So your phone becomes a hotspot or is an ad hoc connection to only one device?
rockky said:
I know I'm missing something here!... But my samsung is using wifi, (with network off) and connected to Spring Wimax...often with ITS data off.
I still make and receive calls on the Samsung.
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Okay, but when I'm connected to WiFi network and go to "Tether and hotspot" in the phone it wants to disconnect me from the WiFi network.
gaui said:
Okay, but when I'm connected to WiFi network and go to "Tether and hotspot" in the phone it wants to disconnect me from the WiFi network.
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Yeah gottcha. Same on the Evo. When Hotspotting (to my Samsung), the wifi is disengaged. Yes.
Yeh I have a 500MB data plan, and understand I'd get charged if I go over. Is great for my wife to get internet access when we're out and about without having to pay for her own data plan .
You can only create a portable hot spot with wi-fi turned off, so internet connection is only via mobile data 3G etc.. so the tethered device/s (upto 8 devices at any one time) can only access mobile data.
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[Q] N7 3G - Cellular call / text msg

Im hoping someone can give me an answer please.
I've recently bought the N7 3G.
Is it capable of being hooked up to a cellular provider and used as a phone would be?
Or can it only be hooked up to a data plan?
My device is unlocked and rooted and i've been plaing with a few roms but there is never a phone app. wtf??
There's never a phone app because it's not a phone. It doesn't have the proper connectivity to make actual calls and text messages. It has HSPA+ but that's for data, not phone/texts...
Zeropoint9 said:
Im hoping someone can give me an answer please.
I've recently bought the N7 3G.
Is it capable of being hooked up to a cellular provider and used as a phone would be?
Or can it only be hooked up to a data plan?
My device is unlocked and rooted and i've been plaing with a few roms but there is never a phone app. wtf??
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There's a separate Forum for the 3G Nexus 7, where devs are currently working on attempting to get the tablet to work the way you're asking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2022
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There's never a phone app because it's not a phone. It doesn't have the proper connectivity to make actual calls and text messages. It has HSPA+ but that's for data, not phone/texts...
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Actually, you are incorrect. It does indeed have the hardware. It is the software that the devs are working on. Wont be long before they get it.
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rebel1699 said:
Actually, you are incorrect. It does indeed have the hardware. It is the software that the devs are working on. Wont be long before they get it.
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Oh Sorry

Wifi + 4G on at same time?

I came from a gnexus and on that phone it use to be when on wifi at home it would turn off 3g/4g, with the G2 I notice 4G is always on?
I would prefer to turn off 4G at home since my 4G is not the best and probably using more battery? I know it not using 4G for data but why is the 4G still on when it using wifi?
Thanks
Just aesthetics. I modded mine to remove icons when on Wi-Fi connection. Mods are around forums. As far as I have seen, on the Verizon variant at least, there is no 3G only switch. :/. I've only seen it on international version.
tannor said:
I came from a gnexus and on that phone it use to be when on wifi at home it would turn off 3g/4g, with the G2 I notice 4G is always on?
I would prefer to turn off 4G at home since my 4G is not the best and probably using more battery? I know it not using 4G for data but why is the 4G still on when it using wifi?
Thanks
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Are you sure that 4G is on when on WiFi? Because if you go to System Status, it usually shows Mobile Network State as "disconnected" when on WiFi.
LordLugard said:
Are you sure that 4G is on when on WiFi? Because if you go to System Status, it usually shows Mobile Network State as "disconnected" when on WiFi.
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oh you are correct, I just checked shows disconnected and I guess what steamer said it just aesthetics and kind of confused me thanks!

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