[Q] N7 3G - Cellular call / text msg - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im hoping someone can give me an answer please.
I've recently bought the N7 3G.
Is it capable of being hooked up to a cellular provider and used as a phone would be?
Or can it only be hooked up to a data plan?
My device is unlocked and rooted and i've been plaing with a few roms but there is never a phone app. wtf??

There's never a phone app because it's not a phone. It doesn't have the proper connectivity to make actual calls and text messages. It has HSPA+ but that's for data, not phone/texts...

Zeropoint9 said:
Im hoping someone can give me an answer please.
I've recently bought the N7 3G.
Is it capable of being hooked up to a cellular provider and used as a phone would be?
Or can it only be hooked up to a data plan?
My device is unlocked and rooted and i've been plaing with a few roms but there is never a phone app. wtf??
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There's a separate Forum for the 3G Nexus 7, where devs are currently working on attempting to get the tablet to work the way you're asking.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2022

Mac of York said:
There's never a phone app because it's not a phone. It doesn't have the proper connectivity to make actual calls and text messages. It has HSPA+ but that's for data, not phone/texts...
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Actually, you are incorrect. It does indeed have the hardware. It is the software that the devs are working on. Wont be long before they get it.
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rebel1699 said:
Actually, you are incorrect. It does indeed have the hardware. It is the software that the devs are working on. Wont be long before they get it.
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[Q] Wifi Hotspot Problems
I cant turn on the Portable Wifi hotspot on the Nexus S. It always says error. Is someone else having the same problem? BTW im on Tmobile.
aliminator said:
I cant turn on the Portable Wifi hotspot on the Nexus S. It always says error. Is someone else having the same problem? BTW im on Tmobile.
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Reboot. Turn off your Wifi first, then enable wifi hotspot tethering.
I tried that and it didn't work.
I don't have data connection but I tried to turn it on and it worked fine.
Hmmmm. Looks like i need to pay 15$ extra to get the service enabled on Tmobile. Strange how i never had to do that with my Nexus One.
I had the same problem, but I kept trying and it eventually worked.
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aliminator said:
Hmmmm. Looks like i need to pay 15$ extra to get the service enabled on Tmobile. Strange how i never had to do that with my Nexus One.
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Do you have some really old and cheap data plan?
They can detect it if you don't pay right?
zachthemaster said:
They can detect it if you don't pay right?
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no, that would be illegal to monitor your network traffic without a warrant
slowz3r said:
no, that would be illegal to monitor your network traffic without a warrant
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LOL wut? Course they can detect it. How else do they know if you're over your limit or not. LOL. And no that's not illegal.
One of the things advertised with the NS is no charge for wifi teathering. I think they only require a fee on the 4g devices.
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Slapinfunk said:
One of the things advertised with the NS is no charge for wifi teathering. I think they only require a fee on the 4g devices.
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That's why I asked the OP if he/she had an old cheap data plan. You have to have a current data plan.
Can they detect if you have an old plan? Yes. Can they detect if you're using the tethering/hotspot feature? Probably. Can they detect how much bandwidth you're using? Definately.
Must have an Android plan. Some got away with using a lesser plan but not all apps work. Visual voicemail etc....
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slowz3r said:
no, that would be illegal to monitor your network traffic without a warrant
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So on an EM+ plan with unlimited data, i could use tethering.. right?
nxt said:
LOL wut? Course they can detect it. How else do they know if you're over your limit or not. LOL. And no that's not illegal.
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Huh? Like they know when you've gone over the limit when X surpasses Y, i.e, 210mbs(X)>200mbs(Y)
zachthemaster said:
So on an EM+ plan with unlimited data, i could use tethering.. right?
Huh? Like they know when you've gone over the limit when X surpasses Y, i.e, 210mbs(X)>200mbs(Y)
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Yes EM+ with unlimited data is fine.
I was replying to slowz3r cuz he said it was illegal if they can "detect it".
And yes, they can detect if you've gone over the limit, or overusing data plan, etc.
nxt said:
Yes EM+ with unlimited data is fine.
I was replying to slowz3r cuz he said it was illegal if they can "detect it".
And yes, they can detect if you've gone over the limit, or overusing data plan, etc.
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Oh cool. So what you're saying is that I don't need to buy tethering?
[Q] Wifi problem?
I unlocked and rooted today and thought everything was fine. However, after the phone was factory reset, all of my apps didn't auto update like before after signings in and Im having a wierd wifi issue.
I can connect to access points but now I can't actually use wifi. The 2 or 3g sign will still be on. Even if I have full bars on wifi I can't use wifi. I went into recovery and fixed permissions and the problem still persists. I have no idea how to fix it short of a factory reset. Could rooting have anything to do with it?
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WifI probs after new update
I've seen the Mobile network problem but this is different . My WiFi signal sits in white and not green until I manually forget network and re apply the SSID.
Worked perfect before update , would walk into my home and it would pick up and connect .
Anyone else having this problem or no of a cure ?
wardy said:
I've seen the Mobile network problem but this is different . My WiFi signal sits in white and not green until I manually forget network and re apply the SSID.
Worked perfect before update , would walk into my home and it would pick up and connect .
Anyone else having this problem or no of a cure ?
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I've had problems with three different handsets (iPhone 3G, Vibrant, Nexus) on different Wi-Fi routers. Believe it or not, what usually fixes the problem is updating the router to it's latest available firmware. I haven't kept up with all of the varieties of WPA2 or 802.11N, but it's helped me...
cheers , I was looking at a new router after Xmas . Thing is it worked flawlessly before the update .
I will do a hard reset and see if that helps
Thanks

[Q] Wifi and talk

When your phone is rooted and you are able to use your phone as a Wifi hot spot, can you surf the web and talk at the same time? Thanks!
I believe that would only be possible when you are connected with 4G. Otherwise you can only tether and surf.
You can do that whether you're rooted or not. Same with 4g
We're comin from a pure power source.
metalfan78 said:
You can do that whether you're rooted or not. Same with 4g
We're comin from a pure power source.
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I have Sprint. I have never used my Evo as a hot spot but I have a friend that has. She states she can't use it as wifi and talk on the phone. Meaning surf the web while on a call...
im0rtalz said:
I believe that would only be possible when you are connected with 4G. Otherwise you can only tether and surf.
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Correct, CDMA networks don't allow communication and data transfer at the same time i believe... some GSM's with sim cards can though. T-Mobile i believe.
So why is it while on 4g watching a streaming movie through HDMI, I can get a call, answer it, have a convo, and the movie is never interrupted? I thought the 4g radio was seperate from the mobile/3g radios?
Not trying to discredit anyone just a question.
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[Q] Nexus 7 32GB + HSPA+

Hey,
i waited till the release of the 32GB version of the Nexus 7.On the official Google Blog i have read: "Nexus 7 with 32GB and mobile data: $299 and unlocked, on sale 11/13 in the Google Play store in the U.S., U.K., Australia, France, Germany, Spain and Canada."
Now my question is, what do they mean with "unlocked"? Fully rooted? That would be awesome!
Hope you can help me!
Greetz
I'm sure they mean, not carrier specific. its compatible with 200+ carriers worldwide.
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You think so?
But what do you mean with carrier specific? Could you explain a bit more?
It is NOT carrier specific... meaning it isn't LOCKED to any specific carrier... aka it isn't branded... and it doesn't require 2yr contracts to get it for that price.
It means you pay $300 and can pop in any SIM card from any GSM carrier and go to town.
warpig12 said:
You think so?
But what do you mean with carrier specific? Could you explain a bit more?
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They mean unlocked as in you can use it with whatever SIM card you wanted on whatever network. As long as it is GSM of course. (LTE uses SIM even though some are CDMA based)
If it were "locked" we had to buy it from a mobile carrier as Vodafone, T-Mobile etc including a contract for 1-2 years.
Can you make calls with this or are you limited to data only? I'm also assuming this is penta band.
Data only, but there's so many ways to make voice calls online.
Thanks for every answer.Hope they will get it on amazon.de early as possible.:fingers-crossed:
Does this HSPA+ support Dual Carrier 4G?
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kitsunisan said:
Data only, but there's so many ways to make voice calls online.
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Yeah, but easiest way, like a smartphone, would be fine ?
We now have in France, for less than 20€, full plans (3Gb fair use, unlimited MMS/SMS and unlimited phone calls). The right plan to put in a Nexus7 HSDPA !
If the Nexus7 HSDPA has capability to phonecalls like the former GalaxyTab7" or 7,7", i would replace one of my Note1 with this one !
luminouche said:
Yeah, but easiest way, like a smartphone, would be fine ?
We now have in France, for less than 20€, full plans (3Gb fair use, unlimited MMS/SMS and unlimited phone calls). The right plan to put in a Nexus7 HSDPA !
If the Nexus7 HSDPA has capability to phonecalls like the former GalaxyTab7" or 7,7", i would replace one of my Note1 with this one !
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According to everything I've found, the Nexus 7 is NOT a telephone. If you want to make voice calls you will need to use a voip service like Skype. Jellybean does have a phone app hidden away (for the Nexus 4) But I'm pretty sure if you brought it up on a Nexus 7 and tried to use it, it would either hang or make an error.
You know those portable 3g/4G routers you can buy and put a sim in? It's just like having that built in to your tablet.
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My biggest question is how accessable the SIM card is....
I read in a Verge posting that it will ship with your choice of T-MO or AT&T SIM preinstalled (for USA)- does this mean we won't be able to (easily) change it?
T-MO has simple and flexible monthly 4G plan options, for cheap. I don't know what AT&T has in comparison, but the only reason I personally would go with AT&T is wider coverage.
Kearkan said:
According to everything I've found, the Nexus 7 is NOT a telephone. If you want to make voice calls you will need to use a voip service like Skype. Jellybean does have a phone app hidden away (for the Nexus 4) But I'm pretty sure if you brought it up on a Nexus 7 and tried to use it, it would either hang or make an error.
You know those portable 3g/4G routers you can buy and put a sim in? It's just like having that built in to your tablet.
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The new Nexus 7 coming out DOES work as a phone. Welcome to the thread.
iso1600 said:
My biggest question is how accessable the SIM card is....
I read in a Verge posting that it will ship with your choice of T-MO or AT&T SIM preinstalled (for USA)- does this mean we won't be able to (easily) change it?
T-MO has simple and flexible monthly 4G plan options, for cheap. I don't know what AT&T has in comparison, but the only reason I personally would go with AT&T is wider coverage.
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The radio isn't 4G compatible; more of a "3.5G". It will work with 3G stuff, but not 4G apparently. Kinda strange Google didn't just jump right to 4G, if they were gonna do this at all... still, pretty awesome.
Kearkan said:
According to everything I've found, the Nexus 7 is NOT a telephone. If you want to make voice calls you will need to use a voip service like Skype. Jellybean does have a phone app hidden away (for the Nexus 4) But I'm pretty sure if you brought it up on a Nexus 7 and tried to use it, it would either hang or make an error.
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Yeah, but it still would be a great hack !
Hi, would it be possible to use it to receive and send text messages (SMS) ? I live in France and have a full unlimited plan too.
Derjyn said:
The new Nexus 7 coming out DOES work as a phone. Welcome to the thread.
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How sure are you of this and where did you get the information? I am really curios as i am considering using the NEXUS7 as a phone IF the HSPA version supports it.
Derjyn said:
The new Nexus 7 coming out DOES work as a phone. Welcome to the thread.
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Curious to know... Source please ?
Can't wait to get me hands on one of these... we're still chugging along with a mix of 2G and 3G here in India. So this would be perfect. Our data plans are pretty cheap and contacts with cellular companies are almost unheard of...
Wonder is this will work with all the 3G carriers in India?
So, to repop the question...Can anyone confirm or deny if the Nexus7 HSPA version has the capability of being used as a phone for making regular voice calls?

Since T-Mo is carrying the Nexus 4...no tethering without the proper plan?

Right now I have no problem tethering off my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile with an unlimited plan, whether on my tablet, laptop, or desktop. The Nexus 4 looks pretty nice, but my concern - since T-Mobile is also carrying it, does that mean it'll have the capability to block tethering without the proper plan, even using the Play unlocked version? Does the T-Mobile one even have anything confirmed other than a higher price? Apparently 42Mbps speeds are confirmed on the Play version through the Google press release and the Play Store specs are wrong.
I know its all speculation at this point since nobody has the phone, but that'd be a huge factor as to whether I sell my Galaxy Nexus now and go back to my HTC G2 until I get the Nexus 4 (while I can still get a decent amount for it), or just get my high-performance fix with the Nexus 10 (which I'd be planning to get regardless after selling my Toshiba Thrive).
If you can root it, you can tether w/o being charged a fee. True story.
WiredPirate said:
If you can root it, you can tether w/o being charged a fee. True story.
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If you buy it from T-Mobile, they will have the IMEI and can track it. Better get it from the PlayStore.
WiredPirate said:
If you can root it, you can tether w/o being charged a fee. True story.
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Except I've had issues tethering with a rooted/ROM'd G2 occasionally, and have had friends having issues with tethering on rooted devices, so I can't say that's entirely true.
eksasol said:
If you buy it from T-Mobile, they will have the IMEI and can track it. Better get it from the PlayStore.
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But if T-Mobile ends up carrying the same unlocked version (just upcharging for whatever reason), then wouldn't they be able to track the IMEI or whatever of the unlocked version too?
magus57 said:
Except I've had issues tethering with a rooted/ROM'd G2 occasionally, and have had friends having issues with tethering on rooted devices, so I can't say that's entirely true.
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I can say it's entirely true. No problems tethering with root on ATT or VZW with my Captivate, Atrix or Gnex using either WiFi Tether free app or built in AP via AOKP or CM for 3+ years in at least 2 states. So if you are having problems, you are doing it wrong.
magus57 said:
But if T-Mobile ends up carrying the same unlocked version (just upcharging for whatever reason), then wouldn't they be able to track the IMEI or whatever of the unlocked version too?
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T-Mobile only knows the imei of the phones they sell. They can't and don't have access (unless it's currently connected to their network) of any other imei.
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WiredPirate said:
I can say it's entirely true. No problems tethering with root on ATT or VZW with my Captivate, Atrix or Gnex using either WiFi Tether free app or built in AP via AOKP or CM for 3+ years in at least 2 states. So if you are having problems, you are doing it wrong.
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How exactly can you root "wrong" like you're saying? Fact is, I've gotten the "get a hotspot plan" pages when tethering to my laptop/desktop numerous times while I had my G2, running both CM7 and CM9. Maybe T-Mobile is just more stringent about sniffing out tethering?
magus57 said:
How exactly can you root "wrong" like you're saying? Fact is, I've gotten the "get a hotspot plan" pages when tethering to my laptop/desktop numerous times while I had my G2, running both CM7 and CM9. Maybe T-Mobile is just more stringent about sniffing out tethering?
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No one said you were rooting wrong, they said if you're having tethering issues then you're tethering wrong. But it just depends on the current tower you're on as well as traffic at the time, as well as luck.
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geoffcorey said:
No one said you were rooting wrong, they said if you're having tethering issues then you're tethering wrong. But it just depends on the current tower you're on as well as traffic at the time, as well as luck.
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Exactly. So while tethering is possible on rooted devices, its not guaranteed to work 100% of the time, which is what I'm trying to get at.
magus57 said:
Exactly. So while tethering is possible on rooted devices, its not guaranteed to work 100% of the time, which is what I'm trying to get at.
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No, no. My VZW LTE tethered from my Gnex is more reliable than my Charter cable internet, in fact I use it as a backup when Charter goes out. (which is a few time a month.) If you don't have data it is because of your carrier. And when I said doing it wrong I meant tethering not rooting. There are many many threads on how to properly tether. When done properly tethering works 100% of the time, not having data to tether is a different issue altogether.
WiredPirate said:
No, no. My VZW LTE tethered from my Gnex is more reliable than my Charter cable internet, in fact I use it as a backup when Charter goes out. (which is a few time a month.) If you don't have data it is because of your carrier. And when I said doing it wrong I meant tethering not rooting. There are many many threads on how to properly tether. When done properly tethering works 100% of the time, not having data to tether is a different issue altogether.
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Ah, I'll have to look into it then, thanks.
If you have any specific questions or errors tell me. I'm not sure why you've had a less than stable experience with tethering, but if you can note specific issues we can try and help you troubleshoot to get it working properly.:good:
I wonder how much they will sell it at a T-Mobile store off contract 350$ I hope
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Jasonhunterx said:
I wonder how much they will sell it at a T-Mobile store off contract 350$ I hope
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Way more than what Google selling it for
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raymond4 said:
Way more than what Google selling it for
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That's what I'm thinking just don't like using me credit card and shipping charges
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It seems to be pretty well established that T-Mobile is packet-sniffing to detect unauthorized tethering. It appears that they detect the User Agent string if you are using Internet Explorer or Chrome (but apparently not Firefox, I imagine because Android Firefox is able to pretend to be the desktop version with one tap). Changing the User Agent string for your browser or using a VPN tunnel circumvents the detection, and non-browser access (SSH, SMTP, etc.) is not checked, either. All that's independent of whether you are rooted or not.
just install a user agent add on or extention on your laptop. Firefox and chrome both have them, i set mine to nexus 7 user agent and the tether blocking pages go away for good.
FREEE
basementalism said:
just install a user agent add on or extention on your laptop. Firefox and chrome both have them, i set mine to nexus 7 user agent and the tether blocking pages go away for good.
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it works with out root or any app im using it right now on my comp with my nexus 4 free i have tmobile truly unlimited plan
mrot978 said:
it works with out root or any app im using it right now on my comp with my nexus 4 free i have tmobile truly unlimited plan
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Very good to know. Thanks
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geoffcorey said:
T-Mobile only knows the imei of the phones they sell. They can't and don't have access (unless it's currently connected to their network) of any other imei.
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IMEIs are assigned in blocks. Even if they don't have access to the info from the manufacturer, (they almost certainly do), they can still figure it out. If, for example, they've sold Nexus 4s with IMEIs 1001 and 1003, and you log onto their network with 1002, they can draw a pretty solid conclusion.
The hard part is figuring out if you're tethering or not, which requires invasive packet sniffing if the phone itself doesn't report tethering (that's how they track tethering with branded devices). I don't believe, based on my quick research, that T-Mo is sniffing everyone's packets. Which means they probably aren't watching you unless you are streaming 20GB a month. They are tracking user agents on branded phones, it seems.

Talk and use data connection?

Why cant I talk and use data at the same time? Is there anyway to fix this? Currently using 4g...
Worked perfectly on my HTC One X....
riceboiler said:
Why cant I talk and use data at the same time? Is there anyway to fix this? Currently using 4g...
Worked perfectly on my HTC One X....
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What carrier, what version of the S4?
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riceboiler said:
Why cant I talk and use data at the same time? Is there anyway to fix this? Currently using 4g...
Worked perfectly on my HTC One X....
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No.
4G/LTE is at the moment on most carriers in the world I believe a data only service. If you make a call, the phone will look for a 3g or 2g network to make a voice call on. If it goes to 3G then some carriers allow data and voice simultaneously, others dont.
At some point, some carriers will enable VoLTE (Voice over LTE) which should mean you can do Voice and Data at the same time.
As far as I am aware, the HTC One X isnt an LTE phone, so you were using 3G and the explanation lies above.
Mine is s4 non LTE version. And i cant talk with data connection at same time.
Can someone give the advice?
jcheng said:
Mine is s4 non LTE version. And i cant talk with data connection at same time.
Can someone give the advice?
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As above, your carrier may not support it. It may even be down to different configurations on the bts your connected too. Depending on the amount of backhaul to it, it may not be allowed. Some bts in a different area may be configured differently, or, as mentioned yor network doesn't support it at all.
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Tomo1971 said:
As above, your carrier may not support it. It may even be down to different configurations on the bts your connected too. Depending on the amount of backhaul to it, it may not be allowed. Some bts in a different area may be configured differently, or, as mentioned yor network doesn't support it at all.
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I were using other phone with same simcard connection, and im able to do that multitasking (data and call with same time).
Just wondering is there any setting on s4, as i dont believe it because of my bts connection doesnt allow.
Btw Tomo, thanks for your advice.
My s4 i9505 on Three UK allows it. I often send whatsapp messages while on a call.
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Mine on tmobile uk allows it sometimes but not all the time. That maybe down to differences in the Orange network that tmobile share.
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