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I find myself either on wifi or 3g 99% of the time and I rarely even turn on the 4g radio. Does anyone actually use 4G more than wifi and 3G? I don't like that I have to turn it on and off, if I could leave it on all of the time and not destroy my battery it would be great.
Sure. When I'm sitting down out of the house and know I'm going to be doing some serious browsing.
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I would definitely use it if I lived in an area that had 4g but it would be a toggle thing like wifi if I did use it
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Works great in Dallas.....
Is the premise that the 4G radio draws more battery power than 3G a solid assumption? Subjectively, I find that 3G is a battery hog. But I have not tested rigorously to compare 3G and 4G.
I do whenever I want to use my iPad and I'm away from home.
I get better battery with 4G
I think there are some drawbacks to using 4G. Pictures messages don't come in and sometimes the market is a little bit slow to do anything. But I have had 4G on for the last week, and can make it through the day with juice to spare (I get to work at 7:30am and plug it in at 10PM.)
It seems like the 4G sleep mode does what it is supposed to. I am running Baked Snack 1.3.
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durhamite said:
I find myself either on wifi or 3g 99% of the time and I rarely even turn on the 4g radio. Does anyone actually use 4G more than wifi and 3G? I don't like that I have to turn it on and off, if I could leave it on all of the time and not destroy my battery it would be great.
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I'm with you... really, I find myself finding excuses to use 4g just because I should since I'm paying the 10 dollar fee... mostly i just use it when i have very large downloads or if i'm plugged in and receiving a good signal ill kick it on while doing some browsing... but really i haven't found much real use for it consistently... in part because its such a battery hog (which i don't understand why it hogs so much more battery than 3g but w/e) and in part because wimax isn't Officially released in nyc yet... so my 4g coverage is spotty and minimal at best.
I disable 3G 95% of the time for the massive battery savings. I just use 4G and wifi when the need for data comes up. 4G turns on faster than re-enabling 3G via the Quick Settings app.
BrianFX said:
I disable 3G 95% of the time for the massive battery savings. I just use 4G and wifi when the need for data comes up. 4G turns on faster than re-enabling 3G via the Quick Settings app.
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So you have found 4G is less of a battery hog then 3G? I won't have 4G till Dec so I don't know. I found on AT&T 3G was a hog and I would turn it off it I wasn't on the net.
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I disable 3G 95% of the time for the massive battery savings. I just use 4G and wifi when the need for data comes up. 4G turns on faster than re-enabling 3G via the Quick Settings app.
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itsmebryan said:
So you have found 4G is less of a battery hog then 3G? I won't have 4G till Dec so I don't know. I found on AT&T 3G was a hog and I would turn it off it I wasn't on the net.
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how does one cut off 3g, unless you talking about airplane mode, which is difficult to do when u get a lot of call and texts, ... i need my device fully functioning as far as phone services go...
but if there is a way to disable 3g (data only and still have operational phone services, id love to know how to do that.
I use 4g all the time. That is my main source of internet. I don't have a wifi connection so 4g is my lifeline.
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how does one cut off 3g, unless you talking about airplane mode, which is difficult to do when u get a lot of call and texts, ... i need my device fully functioning as far as phone services go...
but if there is a way to disable 3g (data only and still have operational phone services, id love to know how to do that.
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That's another feature that I miss from WMs modded roms. I could turn off 3G and just run on AT&T edge network. You may need a modded rom or root you phone to turn off 3G on this phone.
Well, the Switchpro widget has a data connection toggle that cuts off 3g, but I'm unsure of how to do it manually through menus.
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3g what is 3g? I for one never had a 3g phone and I don't plan on using it. Why would I use 3g when I have 4g and pay extra for it? 4g coverage in Boston and outside of Boston is very good, so I'm not sure why I would ever use 3g.
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3g what is 3g? I for one never had a 3g phone and I don't plan on using it. Why would I use 3g when I have 4g and pay extra for it? 4g coverage in Boston and outside of Boston is very good, so I'm not sure why I would ever use 3g.
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3G is a older and slower connection than 4G. We all don't have 4G yet. Some have said that 4G uses more battery then 3G. Alot are trying to get the most out of their battery and try different things.
I use it to download psx roms , movies, kernels, epic roms etc. Its useful.
I live in DC, and I have always leave 4G in auto on. I barely notice the diffeence between 4G and my wifi. Now, that's pretty cool. 4G is WAY faster than 3G in my area.
4G use to be a big drain, but with the latest update I find my phone always lasting the whole day. My Palm Pre would always struggle by 8PM, and it would get less use than my EPIC 4G.
I use it all the time in Atlanta, and even get a good signal in my house.
well I am giving spirnt one yr for 4g in my area which I am pretty sure it will not happen, so my next upgrade I will be going back down to 3g. 3g phones by then should have either a 4.0 or 4.3 screen which I want anyway and a 1ghz would be nice to 8) .
From day one, I have had isues with signal strength. It will be 6 bars one second and then no bars the next while in the same spot. Is there yet a solution?
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Same here. I get the infinite sms and send failed all the time. Messed up thing is the only rom this doesn't happen to me in is stock. Go figure.
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Mine has always been stock no mods running froyo
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I have the same problem. Mine will go from perfect signal to the damn 1x icon with no bars and be so slow. Even though on in the same spot when I had full signal. It pisses me off.
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I have the same problem too.It's even worse when i'm 4G.it sucks
If you install roam control from the market, it will force your phone to roam and in the process turn your phone into a verizon phone since you will be using there towers It solved all my reception issues, just be sure to check allow data roaming and you most likely will not have another problem with reception. Oh also you must be rooted for it to work
Yeah but when using roam control the internet speed isn't 3g
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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Thank you. That is my point. Your not on 3g
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Im on wifi most of the time anyways, and when Im not (If I remember) I turn on 4g, so thats probably why I never noticed 3g being any different As far as signal strength, roam control does make you have excellent service for making calls, there is no denying that.
I thought I had seen something about radio issues one time but now I can't find the thread. I've noticed that in places that my evo would have great reception the nexus goes between 3g and 1x alot. Also the wifi is a little strange every once and a while I have to reset the router so the nexus will see my network. All computers connect fine but the nexus doesn't even show my network in the list.
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Where you using a sense rom?
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I thought I had seen something about radio issues one time but now I can't find the thread. I've noticed that in places that my evo would have great reception the nexus goes between 3g and 1x alot. Also the wifi is a little strange every once and a while I have to reset the router so the nexus will see my network. All computers connect fine but the nexus doesn't even show my network in the list.
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I noticed the same thing. I had both a Evo which was on stock HTC Sense, and I also had a Dell Netbook with built in WiMax. Both the Netbook and the Evo had 2-3 bars for 4G WiMax. 3 being full signal.
On the Nexus in the same locations, I only see 1 bar for WiMax 4G. I never loose connection though just the signal appears to be weaker then the Evo / Dell Netbook.
No was on cm7 on the evo. Also when I do the *#*#4636#*#* I see that unknown network is selected.
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I have a sprint tower not more than 300 feet from my shop and inside it goes 3g to 1x Constantly. I go outside and I can get 3 bars 3g. Maybe this radio just doesn't play nice.
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i have the same problem too. Also came from evo running cm7. had great reception everywhere. now i notice a lot of 1x and roaming, i never roamed on the evo.
Same I came from an Epic and signal strength was much better. Not just an indicator. Have you noticed when you are on 4G and run wifi hotspot it knocks you back to a 3G conn?
Haven't been around 4g yet so I haven't seen what that does
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Paleryder said:
Same I came from an Epic and signal strength was much better. Not just an indicator. Have you noticed when you are on 4G and run wifi hotspot it knocks you back to a 3G conn?
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4g is a 20 minute drive away. i'll see if i can confirm this later today.
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No was on cm7 on the evo. Also when I do the *#*#4636#*#* I see that unknown network is selected.
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Yup noticed that too. It should be set to cdma auto prl. There is no way to change the setting. I also notice when i update my profile i get no phone calls or acess to rhe net until i restart the network connection. I hope a dev can figure out a fix.
wow really odd, i have amazing signal.. -65 to -78 at all times are you guys looking at the bars or at the numbers?
Yeah I noticed Having to reset the data connection too. i spent an hour on the phone with sprint trying to figure it out and they had no clue about it. They were confused why # codes don't work. Lol had been put on hold numerous times so the tech could call someone else for info.
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fixxxer2008 said:
Yup noticed that too. It should be set to cdma auto prl. There is no way to change the setting. I also notice when i update my profile i get no phone calls or acess to rhe net until i restart the network connection. I hope a dev can figure out a fix.
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If you watch the "unknown", it goes to WCDMA preferred. Back and forth.
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snandlal said:
If you watch the "unknown", it goes to WCDMA preferred. Back and forth.
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Yeah noticed that too. My evo was set to cdma prl.
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Getting anywhere from. -96 to -101 indoors and -86 outside looking right at a sprint tower.
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Same I came from an Epic and signal strength was much better. Not just an indicator. Have you noticed when you are on 4G and run wifi hotspot it knocks you back to a 3G conn?
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I have the same problem. I can see the sprint tower from my house and can't connect to 4g.
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wow really odd, i have amazing signal.. -65 to -78 at all times are you guys looking at the bars or at the numbers?
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It is weird I have very strong signal hovering around -65 to -76 but my data transfer speeds on 3g and 4g are about half of what they were on my Evo running CM7.
Anyone know the other *#*# codes that work on the nexus that allow u to actually edit the settings
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Yeah same thing here came from the evo just activated the ns4g today and I was on 1x at work where I'm normally 3g. But I would not sweat it the phone just came out maybe a sw update will fix it. On the other hand my 4g also seems to have a lower signal also but the speed is good.
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Yeah, I think this is causing battery drain for me as well. I'm pretty disappointed but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to a software issue.
I'm on T-Mobile and my nexus 4 is constantly switching to hspa only when data is needed. Thats fine and all but data doesnt work when 3g is showing only the "H"... is this normal?
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I'm on T-Mobile and my nexus 4 is constantly switching to hspa only when data is needed. Thats fine and all but data doesnt work when 3g is showing only the "H"... is this normal?
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Mines doing the same, I called yesterday the rep had me download speed test. I'm getting 16mbs down so I'm definitely getting the right speed in the Chicago area,weird
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Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
Ok this 3g H thing makes better sense now but it seems in my area it takes a while to reconnect the H so the internet works I wish it would just stay on the H full blast as i have it plugged in so don't care about battery.
And I would love to have the option to shut off 2 g, not just 2g only, i but i will figure it out.
Otherwise this phone has a strong signal where i am but i wish it would just stuggle on HSPA+, even if it drops out rather than switch to edge on me.
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Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
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Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
kelmar13 said:
Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
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Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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El Daddy said:
Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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Gotcha! Coming from VZW and my last GSM phone was before LTE/HSPA.
Thx for the info!
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android88 said:
Yes, that's normal. Your phone should switch to HSPA when you NEED data, but otherwise, it's going to be on 3G.
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This is correct. The phone will sit on UMTS until data is actively being transferred.
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Ok this 3g H thing makes better sense now but it seems in my area it takes a while to reconnect the H so the internet works I wish it would just stay on the H full blast as i have it plugged in so don't care about battery.
And I would love to have the option to shut off 2 g, not just 2g only, i but i will figure it out.
Otherwise this phone has a strong signal where i am but i wish it would just stuggle on HSPA+, even if it drops out rather than switch to edge on me.
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No point in turning off 2G as the phone will never use it unless absolutely necessary.
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Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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This. If you look at a One S it will only ever show "4G" or "2G".
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joshnichols189 said:
This is correct. The phone will sit on UMTS until data is actively being transferred.
No point in turning off 2G as the phone will never use it unless absolutely necessary.
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Where I live there is a pretty crappy signal, on my blackberry, i have it on "3g only" now i get a steady internet but at like 2 bars. I wish I could do this on my nexus so i can tell the phone HSPA+ only, that way it will stay connected to that only, when it lost the signal it does switch over to GSM/EDGE
In other words, at home I have a strong GSM signal and weak HSPA+, it wants to drop to 2 g all the time, that sucks. My blackberry just struggles and keeps reconnecting to the 3 g, this is much better for me.
I just wonder isn't there a way to have all the available radios listed, a app better than "phone info" as it doesn't do this so it is like
GSM/EDGE
3G
HSPA+
UMA
LTE
and you can check a box and you phone stay on that network ?
I notice in a network monitor app that my phone says it uses
WHSPA
UMA
GSM
and
UNKNOWN
so it is flipping threw radios because of the weak signals, maybe the phone is faulty i don't know
When my nexus is on HSPA+, even with no bars it is crazy fast compared to waht i am used to, even if the signal comes and goes it take to long between
changing radios or whatever to get back on the 4g
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Is this a Nexus thing, a tmobile thing or ...??
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Its an every gsm phone thing. Branded phones don't show the change in the status bar. They don't want to confuse the consumers...
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Not sure about that, but I could be wrong my Nexus One stayed with the HSPA, my SGS2 Did the same thing However, this Nexus 4 toggles a lot back and forth from 3g to HSPA.
Lamar720 said:
Not sure about that, but I could be wrong my Nexus One stayed with the HSPA, my SGS2 Did the same thing However, this Nexus 4 toggles a lot back and forth from 3g to HSPA.
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Every T-Mobile phone I've owned has done this. Including the nexus one.
Initially the nexus one didn't show the change in the status bar. CM added the change and I'm not sure if stock did that later.
The sgs2 doesn't show the change in the status bar. But its happening. T-Mobile just leaves it showing "4G" for marketing and to not confuse people. Because it obviously does. I can't tell ya how many times I have answered this question between the galaxy nexus and nexus 4.
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El Daddy said:
Every T-Mobile phone I've owned has done this. Including the nexus one.
Initially the nexus one didn't show the change in the status bar. CM added the change and I'm not sure if stock did that later.
The sgs2 doesn't show the change in the status bar. But its happening. T-Mobile just leaves it showing "4G" for marketing and to not confuse people. Because it obviously does. I can't tell ya how many times I have answered this question between the galaxy nexus and nexus 4.
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Thanks for the heads up, I guess they need to keep it on 4g for Marketing reasons, I use my phone for Marketing reasons to promote the 4g service but, now that I have a consistent toggle between the 3g and H showing It's not that good of a marketing tool. Sooooo, CM I need a mod lol. Thanks again EL
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Thanks for the heads up, I guess they need to keep it on 4g for Marketing reasons, I use my phone for Marketing reasons to promote the 4g service but, now that I have a consistent toggle between the 3g and H showing It's not that good of a marketing tool. Sooooo, CM I need a mod lol. Thanks again EL
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A user created a mod to change the H to 4g. If you are running CM or PA you can use it. Its at the end of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103171
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A user created a mod to change the H to 4g. If you are running CM or PA you can use it. Its at the end of the thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103171
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Cool, the H is fine I just think it shows the toggle to 3g to much. SGS2 never did that.
Lamar720 said:
Cool, the H is fine I just think it shows the toggle to 3g to much. SGS2 never did that.
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Alternatively you can change the 3g icon to an H or 4g as well. Just extract the systemui.apk. copy the H icon and rename it to whatever the 3g icon is called. Wrap the apk back up and push it back.
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This happens to me and it causes a problem. It is a brand new Nexus 4 and I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.
The 3G/H switch actually causes me problems - every time I go to use my phone's data, it takes maybe... 15 seconds and a few attempts before I can get online. It happens every time I go to use my data.
It's extremely annoying as you can imagine - what can I do? Is there any way to force my phone to remain on H all the time?
I am running stock 4.2.2
thanks
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This happens to me and it causes a problem. It is a brand new Nexus 4 and I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.
The 3G/H switch actually causes me problems - every time I go to use my phone's data, it takes maybe... 15 seconds and a few attempts before I can get online. It happens every time I go to use my data.
It's extremely annoying as you can imagine - what can I do? Is there any way to force my phone to remain on H all the time?
I am running stock 4.2.2
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I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with Telus in Canada and I experience the same thing. Except for me the network always sits on HSPA, and when I go to use the data (in any form - IM, reddit, browsing) it switches to HSPA+ before loading the page. And that transition takes several attempts and 15 seconds sometimes. I've been searching for a solution ever since I got this phone. Glad to see it's not just me (or even Telus it seems)...
I used to have an HTC Desire, and the same sim and APN settings on that phone did not have this delay. And the only difference I can think of is that the Desire stays on regular HSPA, whereas the nexus switches to HSPA+ when a data connection is attempted. I have read some posts for Samsung devices that allow you to force it to use only HSPA. It was like typing *#30179# or something and getting a menu, but that combination does nothing on the Nexus4. Will keep searching, collectively I'm sure we can figure this out!
My phone never shows 3G.. only H or E.. goes straight to E from H. Weird.
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I think I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with Telus in Canada and I experience the same thing. Except for me the network always sits on HSPA, and when I go to use the data (in any form - IM, reddit, browsing) it switches to HSPA+ before loading the page. And that transition takes several attempts and 15 seconds sometimes. I've been searching for a solution ever since I got this phone. Glad to see it's not just me (or even Telus it seems)...
I used to have an HTC Desire, and the same sim and APN settings on that phone did not have this delay. And the only difference I can think of is that the Desire stays on regular HSPA, whereas the nexus switches to HSPA+ when a data connection is attempted. I have read some posts for Samsung devices that allow you to force it to use only HSPA. It was like typing *#30179# or something and getting a menu, but that combination does nothing on the Nexus4. Will keep searching, collectively I'm sure we can figure this out!
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OMG I'm so glad I found your posts. I'm on Fido (Montreal) and I'm having the same issues. It takes a while to switch from 3G to H sometimes, and sometimes it just seems to not switch at all! For example, if I'm in WhatsApp and I send a message, sometimes it'll just stay there waiting for a good long time before it's actually sent. It's like the phone doesn't "realize" that there's an app requesting to send/receive data! Super annoying, and definitely an issue that can be reproduced. It happens to me in WhatsApp, Twitter, Facebook and even the Gmail app.
same issue here... it takes almost a min to transition from 3g to H and visversa
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I just got the S4 upgrading from the Epic (still a good phone) and it is phenomenal. I live in a part of Austin that has Sprint's new 4G LTE area so I am able to get on the network. I have seen that it is able to connect to the network, but I am unable to recieve data or send data even though it shows it is an active working system. Anyone else??
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I just got the S4 upgrading from the Epic (still a good phone) and it is phenomenal. I live in a part of Austin that has Sprint's new 4G LTE area so I am able to get on the network. I have seen that it is able to connect to the network, but I am unable to recieve data or send data even though it shows it is an active working system. Anyone else??
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Are you completely stock? Have you done anything to your phone that may affect it?
And are you getting multiple bars? I remember when I was in SF and I'd be right at the edge of the network, so I was connecting to 4G but I was hardly doing it, and I wouldn't be able to use data.
You might have a faulty radio? Check to make sure your within range, and does 3G work fine for you?
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inlineboy said:
Are you completely stock? Have you done anything to your phone that may affect it?
And are you getting multiple bars? I remember when I was in SF and I'd be right at the edge of the network, so I was connecting to 4G but I was hardly doing it, and I wouldn't be able to use data.
You might have a faulty radio? Check to make sure your within range, and does 3G work fine for you?
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If you are stock, I would also try updating your profile and PRL. Menu>Settings>More>System Update>Update Profile and then the same for PRL.
remember lte is still being worked on and you could easily be trying to connect to a tower that isn't fully operational yet.