I find myself either on wifi or 3g 99% of the time and I rarely even turn on the 4g radio. Does anyone actually use 4G more than wifi and 3G? I don't like that I have to turn it on and off, if I could leave it on all of the time and not destroy my battery it would be great.
Sure. When I'm sitting down out of the house and know I'm going to be doing some serious browsing.
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I would definitely use it if I lived in an area that had 4g but it would be a toggle thing like wifi if I did use it
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Works great in Dallas.....
Is the premise that the 4G radio draws more battery power than 3G a solid assumption? Subjectively, I find that 3G is a battery hog. But I have not tested rigorously to compare 3G and 4G.
I do whenever I want to use my iPad and I'm away from home.
I get better battery with 4G
I think there are some drawbacks to using 4G. Pictures messages don't come in and sometimes the market is a little bit slow to do anything. But I have had 4G on for the last week, and can make it through the day with juice to spare (I get to work at 7:30am and plug it in at 10PM.)
It seems like the 4G sleep mode does what it is supposed to. I am running Baked Snack 1.3.
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durhamite said:
I find myself either on wifi or 3g 99% of the time and I rarely even turn on the 4g radio. Does anyone actually use 4G more than wifi and 3G? I don't like that I have to turn it on and off, if I could leave it on all of the time and not destroy my battery it would be great.
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I'm with you... really, I find myself finding excuses to use 4g just because I should since I'm paying the 10 dollar fee... mostly i just use it when i have very large downloads or if i'm plugged in and receiving a good signal ill kick it on while doing some browsing... but really i haven't found much real use for it consistently... in part because its such a battery hog (which i don't understand why it hogs so much more battery than 3g but w/e) and in part because wimax isn't Officially released in nyc yet... so my 4g coverage is spotty and minimal at best.
I disable 3G 95% of the time for the massive battery savings. I just use 4G and wifi when the need for data comes up. 4G turns on faster than re-enabling 3G via the Quick Settings app.
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I disable 3G 95% of the time for the massive battery savings. I just use 4G and wifi when the need for data comes up. 4G turns on faster than re-enabling 3G via the Quick Settings app.
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So you have found 4G is less of a battery hog then 3G? I won't have 4G till Dec so I don't know. I found on AT&T 3G was a hog and I would turn it off it I wasn't on the net.
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I disable 3G 95% of the time for the massive battery savings. I just use 4G and wifi when the need for data comes up. 4G turns on faster than re-enabling 3G via the Quick Settings app.
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itsmebryan said:
So you have found 4G is less of a battery hog then 3G? I won't have 4G till Dec so I don't know. I found on AT&T 3G was a hog and I would turn it off it I wasn't on the net.
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how does one cut off 3g, unless you talking about airplane mode, which is difficult to do when u get a lot of call and texts, ... i need my device fully functioning as far as phone services go...
but if there is a way to disable 3g (data only and still have operational phone services, id love to know how to do that.
I use 4g all the time. That is my main source of internet. I don't have a wifi connection so 4g is my lifeline.
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how does one cut off 3g, unless you talking about airplane mode, which is difficult to do when u get a lot of call and texts, ... i need my device fully functioning as far as phone services go...
but if there is a way to disable 3g (data only and still have operational phone services, id love to know how to do that.
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That's another feature that I miss from WMs modded roms. I could turn off 3G and just run on AT&T edge network. You may need a modded rom or root you phone to turn off 3G on this phone.
Well, the Switchpro widget has a data connection toggle that cuts off 3g, but I'm unsure of how to do it manually through menus.
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3g what is 3g? I for one never had a 3g phone and I don't plan on using it. Why would I use 3g when I have 4g and pay extra for it? 4g coverage in Boston and outside of Boston is very good, so I'm not sure why I would ever use 3g.
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3g what is 3g? I for one never had a 3g phone and I don't plan on using it. Why would I use 3g when I have 4g and pay extra for it? 4g coverage in Boston and outside of Boston is very good, so I'm not sure why I would ever use 3g.
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3G is a older and slower connection than 4G. We all don't have 4G yet. Some have said that 4G uses more battery then 3G. Alot are trying to get the most out of their battery and try different things.
I use it to download psx roms , movies, kernels, epic roms etc. Its useful.
I live in DC, and I have always leave 4G in auto on. I barely notice the diffeence between 4G and my wifi. Now, that's pretty cool. 4G is WAY faster than 3G in my area.
4G use to be a big drain, but with the latest update I find my phone always lasting the whole day. My Palm Pre would always struggle by 8PM, and it would get less use than my EPIC 4G.
I use it all the time in Atlanta, and even get a good signal in my house.
well I am giving spirnt one yr for 4g in my area which I am pretty sure it will not happen, so my next upgrade I will be going back down to 3g. 3g phones by then should have either a 4.0 or 4.3 screen which I want anyway and a 1ghz would be nice to 8) .
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything
This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.
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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.
I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.
Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.
What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.
IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.
interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.
I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.
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Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.
If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.
that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.
From day one, I have had isues with signal strength. It will be 6 bars one second and then no bars the next while in the same spot. Is there yet a solution?
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Same here. I get the infinite sms and send failed all the time. Messed up thing is the only rom this doesn't happen to me in is stock. Go figure.
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Mine has always been stock no mods running froyo
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I have the same problem. Mine will go from perfect signal to the damn 1x icon with no bars and be so slow. Even though on in the same spot when I had full signal. It pisses me off.
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Same here
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I have the same problem too.It's even worse when i'm 4G.it sucks
If you install roam control from the market, it will force your phone to roam and in the process turn your phone into a verizon phone since you will be using there towers It solved all my reception issues, just be sure to check allow data roaming and you most likely will not have another problem with reception. Oh also you must be rooted for it to work
Yeah but when using roam control the internet speed isn't 3g
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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The 3g icon is displayed on my phone and actively in use since i enabled data roaming, so i dont see your point? Data is fast and reception is good, dont be a debbie downer
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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try testing your speed. just because the 3g icon is displayed doesn't mean you're getting it. and the contract between sprint and verizon stipulates that sprint customers roaming on verizons network are restricted to 1x speeds.
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Thank you. That is my point. Your not on 3g
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Im on wifi most of the time anyways, and when Im not (If I remember) I turn on 4g, so thats probably why I never noticed 3g being any different As far as signal strength, roam control does make you have excellent service for making calls, there is no denying that.
I have 3g or 3.5g permanently enabled because three is a 3g network and when you click use only 2g network you lose signal and.connection completely, i know they use the 2g signal off vodaphone is there anyway to disable 3g to save battery because 3g is a huge battery drain without losing all connection? Android phone.
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I have 3g or 3.5g permanently enabled because three is a 3g network and when you click use only 2g network you lose signal and.connection completely, i know they use the 2g signal off vodaphone is there anyway to disable 3g to save battery because 3g is a huge battery drain without losing all connection? Android phone.
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I'm really quite late on this one I know so apologises for that!
Three only have a 3G network. They currently share Orange's 2G signal as a backup. Recently, they started turning off that 2G backup in areas they thought their own 3G was good enough, so, if you disable 3G and you're in one of those areas then you will get no signal at all. Maybe Three weren't the best network to choose if you only wanted to use 2G!
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I'm really quite late on this one I know so apologises for that!
Three only have a 3G network. They currently share Orange's 2G signal as a backup. Recently, they started turning off that 2G backup in areas they thought their own 3G was good enough, so, if you disable 3G and you're in one of those areas then you will get no signal at all. Maybe Three weren't the best network to choose if you only wanted to use 2G!
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I didn't say i only wanted to use 3g i said i wanted a way to save some battery by turning it off when i don't need it. 3G uses battery like leaving wifi permanently enabled.
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Hellow awesome people
I was just really curious, is it possible to turn off 4G, and have the mytouch 4G running on 3G, because the 4G really kills my battery, and only lasts for about 8 hours on average use, 5-6 on high usage.
Any comments accepted
THanks
On MT4G, there is no "3G" and "4G", they're the same. HSPA+ that can run higher d/l speeds is called "4G", though it actually doesn't really qualify. The phone can't even differentiate between the high-speed and regular HSDPA modes.
Shortly - what you're seeing is an illusion, and your battery drains for some other reason.
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Hellow awesome people
I was just really curious, is it possible to turn off 4G, and have the mytouch 4G running on 3G, because the 4G really kills my battery, and only lasts for about 8 hours on average use, 5-6 on high usage.
Any comments accepted
THanks
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I found this posted in another thread maybe it will help
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Someone once gave me this code you could input on the dial pad and it would take you to some secret advanced settings of some sort that let you control what type of towers to use, I wish I could remember what it was. It should be in a comment SOMEWHERE in one of the ICS threads... hopefully the guy who gave it to me comments on here too.
EDIT: I found it! Type this in the dialer *#*#4636#*#* This will take you to "Testing" from there, click on "Phone information" and scroll down til you see the option to change whether you want CDMA, GSM, etc. etc.
Hope it works!
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Like jack said, you can't switch 4g to 3g, they are both the same for our network. You can only switch from 4g/3g to edge.
Sprint is able to switch from 4g to 3g because sprint doesn't have real 4g, ha!
I came from a gnexus and on that phone it use to be when on wifi at home it would turn off 3g/4g, with the G2 I notice 4G is always on?
I would prefer to turn off 4G at home since my 4G is not the best and probably using more battery? I know it not using 4G for data but why is the 4G still on when it using wifi?
Thanks
Just aesthetics. I modded mine to remove icons when on Wi-Fi connection. Mods are around forums. As far as I have seen, on the Verizon variant at least, there is no 3G only switch. :/. I've only seen it on international version.
tannor said:
I came from a gnexus and on that phone it use to be when on wifi at home it would turn off 3g/4g, with the G2 I notice 4G is always on?
I would prefer to turn off 4G at home since my 4G is not the best and probably using more battery? I know it not using 4G for data but why is the 4G still on when it using wifi?
Thanks
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Are you sure that 4G is on when on WiFi? Because if you go to System Status, it usually shows Mobile Network State as "disconnected" when on WiFi.
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Are you sure that 4G is on when on WiFi? Because if you go to System Status, it usually shows Mobile Network State as "disconnected" when on WiFi.
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oh you are correct, I just checked shows disconnected and I guess what steamer said it just aesthetics and kind of confused me thanks!