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Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

**** turpin said:
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

giopirolli said:
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

giopirolli said:
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

Hi, i'm new here!

Hello all,
i've scoured this webpage for the past few days to try and make some sense of this phone!
i've just upgraded to the HD2 after nearly 2 years of iphone and finding the transition very hard!
i did read the "Questions & Answers" section but the obvious questions weren't there...probably as they're obvious and it's just me...
i know some of you will take offense from me asking questions, and if you do, please don't reply i'm after help, not a laugh
Why is the phone refered to as Leo? Is this the actual model of the phone rather than the HD2?
Why would you upgrade your ROM? What can these upgrades do?
The current ROM on my phone shows as 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE and on the HTC website it shows as there is an available upgrade but upon entering my serial number it says this isnt applicable!
A few other things the facebook app doesnt work? Just stays on "Getting User ID.." and doesnt go past that and the Messenger application doesnt allow (or doesnt seem to) none hotmail or msn addresses!? for example, my email address is from a domain i own that is already set up on .passport and works fine on msn through the PC but not on the phone?!
Any help would much be appreciated and thanks in advance

b3nje said:
Hello all,
i've scoured this webpage for the past few days to try and make some sense of this phone!
i've just upgraded to the HD2 after nearly 2 years of iphone and finding the transition very hard!
i did read the "Questions & Answers" section but the obvious questions weren't there...probably as they're obvious and it's just me...
i know some of you will take offense from me asking questions, and if you do, please don't reply i'm after help, not a laugh
Why is the phone refered to as Leo? Is this the actual model of the phone rather than the HD2?
Why would you upgrade your ROM? What can these upgrades do?
The current ROM on my phone shows as 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE and on the HTC website it shows as there is an available upgrade but upon entering my serial number it says this isnt applicable!
A few other things the facebook app doesnt work? Just stays on "Getting User ID.." and doesnt go past that and the Messenger application doesnt allow (or doesnt seem to) none hotmail or msn addresses!? for example, my email address is from a domain i own that is already set up on .passport and works fine on msn through the PC but not on the phone?!
Any help would much be appreciated and thanks in advance
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Hi mate, and welcome to the forum. I hope we can help your transition from your iPhone to a windows phone easier for you - they're very different beasts aren't they?
First off, the name Leo is the "codename" for the HD2. The original HD was called the "Blackstone" as well. We refer to it as the HD2, as that's what it's really called, but you can call it Leo if you like. I call mine Gemma, but that's a different story
The ROM is basically the core of the phone's software. Upgrading this is usually done to make a lot of small changes happen at once, rather than installing lots of niggly little hotfixes. ROMs are made available for different phone types at different times. By this, I mean that the ones currently on the HTC site are for unbranded phones. They may later include ROM upgrades from service providers. If your phone is T-Mobile, for example, then you can only use T-Mobile ROMs. (That's the official line, anyway. There is something called HSPL which allows you to put any ROM on your phone, regardless).
As far as your problems with Facebook and Windows Live go, I can't really comment as they've worked flawlessly for me. I do have a hotmail.com account though, which may well explain why Live worked so easily for me.
I'm sure others will come by to say hello and, hopefully, answer your questions some more.
If you've got any questions, do search first, and don't give up just because you haven't found results in the first 5 posts listed. This is a MASSIVE forum, and stuff does get lost easily. After that, ask away, and just ignore anyone (like me) who tells you to search first. Just tell us you already have in the original post and we won't have a leg to stand on
Good luck mate - I hope you enjoy it

I use googlemail and Live worked for me too with no problems....
Have you played with any of the settings on the phone since you got it?
Have you tried turning it off then back on? Maybe that will fix it.

spot on! cleared the majority of things up for me there!
yeah, they certainly are totally different phones! the iphone feels and looks dated after using the "leo" . The camera is the thing that stands out for me by far, i'm used to using dslr's and after getting the iphone, having to carry a normal compact due to the camera being so sh*t! hopefully i'll be able to get away with using just the phone!
my contract is with O2 and after speaking with their technical department about the little issues i have, i must say, they do not have a clue! the first person hadn't even heard of the phone!
i'll have a look into upgrading the ROM as the version i have seems to be quite out of date compared to the ones available now!
thanks again for the help, much appreciated!

hi pkchips,
i've deleted it and reinstalled it, but still not working - its been sat next to me for the past 20mins saying "Getting User ID.." but for some reason i can sync my contacts with phonebook from my address book but not log on to the application....strange!?

b3nje said:
spot on! cleared the majority of things up for me there!
yeah, they certainly are totally different phones! the iphone feels and looks dated after using the "leo" . The camera is the thing that stands out for me by far, i'm used to using dslr's and after getting the iphone, having to carry a normal compact due to the camera being so sh*t! hopefully i'll be able to get away with using just the phone!
my contract is with O2 and after speaking with their technical department about the little issues i have, i must say, they do not have a clue! the first person hadn't even heard of the phone!
i'll have a look into upgrading the ROM as the version i have seems to be quite out of date compared to the ones available now!
thanks again for the help, much appreciated!
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You're welcome mate.
I'd definitely recommend the ROM upgrade as 1.66 is really smooth and fast compared to 1.43 and 1.48, despite them being fast anyway! Just make sure to spend some time reading the stickied threads in the ROM forum. They've got all the information you need from noob to expert in there, so it's highly recommended reading before you do any flashing.
As far as the camera goes, there's a lot of differing opinions about that on here. Personally, I think it's great, but I don't expect to take shots that are as good as something like a DSLR. There's been some really good example and some really bad ones. I guess it's a taste thing, and how you take pics too, so good luck with that

Welcome,
b3nje said:
Hello all,
The current ROM on my phone shows as 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE and on the HTC website it shows as there is an available upgrade but upon entering my serial number it says this isnt applicable!
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Id say this means you have a provider locked phone, Eg/ O2, TMobile, whatever. These phones are expected to be updated by the provider, so the serial wont work on the HTC website.
Sadly our providers tend to blow, so don't expect any updates all that quickly, however a little trick called HSPL will get around that. (Bit like jailbreaking an iphone, only different)
EDIT - scratch teh T Mobile stuff, since yr on O2!

i think the ability to control the focus from a tap of the finger is what does it for me
i'll do some more research now i've got a weekend in my favour and see how i get on!
ta

Re: camera...cover 3 quaters of the led flash with some electrical tape and it'll be fine...well it'll be slightly less blinding lol

harrow!
i've HSPL and updated my rom, everything seems sweeter and working fine, BUT , once i've taken a picture, the thumbnail in the gallary is ridiculously distorted and appears purple/pink! when i click the picture its absolutely fine though!

i've given up gun! its going back and i'm getting a 3gs!
i didnt want to go back to the iphone after my 3g as the 3gs isnt a big enough of a step up but the HD2 is slow, the keyboard is no where near as good as the iphone, the user interface of the iphone is much neater and simpler and i dont have to mess around with this rom radio hspl flash upgrade shizzle - i just plug my phone in, press a button and its jail broken
thanks for the help guys, just not too sure what you see in the phone besides the nice camera!

sorry, that sounded a bit rude!
i appreciated the help when i asked, many thanks - just a shame it didnt live up to my expectations after the raving reviews i read!

Getting my HD2 - What to do first?

Ok awaiting delivery of my HD2, what should I do with it first?
What must have software should I download for it?

The first thing you should do is charche the phone
After that find yourself a good rom .
And aply tweaks that are suitable for you .

chrism_scotland said:
Ok awaiting delivery of my HD2, what should I do with it first?
What must have software should I download for it?
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first search about bsb tweaks it is the most useful app for hd2 and keep away from using flash light applications as it may damage your camera flash with continous using ,finally upgrade to the official 1.66 roms from htc site it is better than any coocked rom till now and more stable. best wishes with your new device ,it is really a good device

Read <<THIS>> first as this will enable you to tap into the great work of the chefs who have redefined how the device should truely work....faster and better!

check this thread and read post #5 by rzasharp:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632285
very useful read with all you need to know in a nicely structured manner

The HD2 I've bought is a brand new T-Mobile upgrade being sold off, does anyone know if T-Mobile HD2's come with a pouch?

chrism_scotland said:
The HD2 I've bought is a brand new T-Mobile upgrade being sold off, does anyone know if T-Mobile HD2's come with a pouch?
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I recall hearing that TMO don't supply the pouch (I'm only going off memory so I could be wrong).

charge phone then check if your phone has the latest Rom version , if not then upgrade.
After that read the tips and tricks thread

Actually, it works great out of the box.

Should I buy the Telstra HD2?

I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&Ts network. I have been checking out the forums and it seems there are a ton of issues with the HD2 regarding touch screen failures, data connection issues, and other nags that make the experience more frustrating than enjoyable.
Would love to know from experienced users opinions on whether or not I should buy the HD2. I am a very experienced BlackBerry user but I have gotten bored with the UI and want to try something new.
Also to note: I plan to use my next ATT upgrade to get the WP7 phone but that is too long a wait to stick it out on the BB. I am not going to switch to TMob as I think I am the only ATT user that is satisfied with ATT.
Really any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.

king_fish said:
I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&Ts network. I have been checking out the forums and it seems there are a ton of issues with the HD2 regarding touch screen failures, data connection issues, and other nags that make the experience more frustrating than enjoyable.
Would love to know from experienced users opinions on whether or not I should buy the HD2. I am a very experienced BlackBerry user but I have gotten bored with the UI and want to try something new.
Also to note: I plan to use my next ATT upgrade to get the WP7 phone but that is too long a wait to stick it out on the BB. I am not going to switch to TMob as I think I am the only ATT user that is satisfied with ATT.
Really any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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The HD2 had ALOT of complaints from users when it first came out and all the problems it had was due to the terrible rom that it came with. The latest official Rom v1.66 and any custom rom from the rom development forum have fixed all these problems and after owning an HD2 for 2 1/2 months I can say hand on heart that it is the best phone I have ever seen or used. No freezes, no problems with the screen, no data connection problems and a pleasure to use. Everytime I look at it I still think WOW!!
Even the camera and video capture which has always been dismal at best on HTC phones is now fantastic and stunningly fast.
With the tweaks and mods available on xda you wont find a better phone.
I advised a friend to get one a few weeks ago and after he got his HD2 he thanked me for recommending it so my advise to you would be to get one as you will not be disapointed.
The only thing I will say is that once you get it be prepared to put HardSPL on it and flash either the 1.66 stock rom or one of the custom roms available to make sure it runs at its best.
Mark.

king_fish said:
I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&T's network. ...any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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I purchased one Telstra HD2 for myself, flashed the ROM (to XannyTech's), and have had no problems except a bug related to screen rotation during phone calls causing the dialpad to reposition itself annoyingly (there's a simple work-around). My boss was so impressed with the phone that he bought one and I've prepped it the same way.
I have no reservations about the purchases. Worrying about WP7 upgrade possibilities is silly since we all know so very little about what might happen. You're right not to listen to the Chicken Littles who want to sue HTC or see the price come down because an upgrade never offered now may only be possible instead of probable.

mskip said:
The HD2 had ALOT of complaints from users when it first came out and all the problems it had was due to the terrible rom that it came with. The latest official Rom v1.66 and any custom rom from the rom development forum have fixed all these problems and after owning an HD2 for 2 1/2 months I can say hand on heart that it is the best phone I have ever seen or used. No freezes, no problems with the screen, no data connection problems and a pleasure to use. Everytime I look at it I still think WOW!!
Even the camera and video capture which has always been dismal at best on HTC phones is now fantastic and stunningly fast.
With the tweaks and mods available on xda you wont find a better phone.
I advised a friend to get one a few weeks ago and after he got his HD2 he thanked me for recommending it so my advise to you would be to get one as you will not be disapointed.
The only thing I will say is that once you get it be prepared to put HardSPL on it and flash either the 1.66 stock rom or one of the custom roms available to make sure it runs at its best.
Mark.
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Awesome and thanks for the input. I am sold. My buddy in Perth grabbed one for me today and it is on the way to me. I was debating whether or not to sell it but I want to keep it. Your explanation of flashing the ROM was one of the first links I bookmarked from this site.
I am definitely going to have to HardSPL the device - what I understand is that the Telstra ROM will not allow me to access ATT's 3G bands. I have been on a BlackBerry for 5 years so this is all new to me but I am looking forward to getting the HD2.

king_fish said:
Awesome and thanks for the input. I am sold. My buddy in Perth grabbed one for me today and it is on the way to me. I was debating whether or not to sell it but I want to keep it. Your explanation of flashing the ROM was one of the first links I bookmarked from this site.
I am definitely going to have to HardSPL the device - what I understand is that the Telstra ROM will not allow me to access ATT's 3G bands. I have been on a BlackBerry for 5 years so this is all new to me but I am looking forward to getting the HD2.
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When you get it make sure you check the SPL in the bootloader screen to make sure you can put HardSPL on it. The requirements are SPL 1.42. I dont think any phones are being sold with a higher SPL version but you really want to check that first before you start drooling over the sheer beauty of it
Once you are ready to start flashing it please post in my flashing for noobs thread if you have any more observations or questions.
Mark.

manicotti said:
I purchased one Telstra HD2 for myself, flashed the ROM (to XannyTech's), and have had no problems except a bug related to screen rotation during phone calls causing the dialpad to reposition itself annoyingly (there's a simple work-around). My boss was so impressed with the phone that he bought one and I've prepped it the same way.
I have no reservations about the purchases. Worrying about WP7 upgrade possibilities is silly since we all know so very little about what might happen. You're right not to listen to the Chicken Littles who want to sue HTC or see the price come down because an upgrade never offered now may only be possible instead of probable.
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Theres an even better replacement than the rotate fix, there's a dll fix now too

I think it's an excellent phone, but the standard Telstra ROM is terrible, I'm using the latest Energy ROM and the phone is AMAZING now

I agree in that it is an excellent phone. I am using it on AT&T here in the US.
I have tried several of the ROMs cooked here and can say they all offer great alternatives. Go for it!

I also have the T9193 setup with ATT. I went for the safe sea wwe 1.66 rom. The only problem I had was with the data freezing on me a couple times a day. But once I got the right bands setup and installed the 2.08.50.08_2 radio the phone has been flawless for weeks. Not one issue. I have had no problems with the touchscreen at all.

mazzarin said:
Theres an even better replacement than the rotate fix, there's a dll fix now too
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Not the right thread maybe, but what is the link to this fix? Only thing that annoys me sometimes. Thanks.
Concerning this thread, MSKip recommended me the HD2 (he came from a TyTn II) just like me, and I can only repeat every word he said. Even camera is quite nice. Used in a trip with my kids, and it did its job when I needed quite nicely.
I also bought my Telstra to use in the same band as AT&T in Brazil. It's been working with no problem. I don't keep it connected all the time, so can not say about stability of connection, but whenever I need I connect HSPA right away and connection is quite fast and it is quite OK to browse the web with it. And thing is no lag! I use Miri 6.5.x, great, there is a fix for the registry to select correct bands or auto... My 2 cents.
PS: I was only missing a little bit hardware keyboard and media keys. Now I'm getting used to on-screen keyboard and typing is getting closer in speed and accuracy to a hard keyboard. Media keys, well, I use my bluetooth headphone's, still miss them sometimes, though, but nothing is perfect, is it?

I have been happy with ATT, but the price of the import is too steep so I cannot stay if I want the HD2
If you dont mind the price importing shouldnt be too bad, I know someone who did and has been very happy with it.

mbernstein said:
Not the right thread maybe, but what is the link to this fix? Only thing that annoys me sometimes. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5768112&postcount=3

mazzarin said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5768112&postcount=3
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Thanks. Trying it.
Yes, not cheap. I've got my HD2 Telstra from Australia to the US for around U$ 800 total.

[Q] [28 Mar] HTC HD2 US version + non-US roms

Im thinking of buying HTC HD2 again (had one, sold it, regret it) from eBay.
Im had an EU/UK version, im thinking of getting US version with more (1024MB on T-Mobile US version)
Do all the Roms with Android, WP7 etc, that are made for non-us version will work with T-Mobile US version ?
is there any resone i shuld no get US version ?
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Sorry for noob question, but im at work and shuld not be google'ing too much

Android and wp7 work on both types of hd2.

Do Android roms that made for HD2 512 vsersion will work on HD2 1024 US-version ?
US version will work on 3G, HSDPA in UK ?

Depends, most do, read the instructions for that rom.

er,WARNING...you will brick your hd2 if you are not VERY sure.
most EU roms will brick us t-mob phone,and other way round.
read up very carefully before you even think about trying.
search posts from bahakahn,he just bricked his trying.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium

nice one Sam,your advice is crap,just read posts from bahakhan.
unless you actually know what your talking about don't advice noobs how to brick their phone.
you are doing more harm than helping,just show folk how to find forum/thread and tell them to read,this is a 5 year old phone,these problems where sorted years ago.
try reading.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium

tleaf100 said:
nice one Sam,your advice is crap,just read posts from bahakhan.
unless you actually know what your talking about don't advice noobs how to brick their phone.
you are doing more harm than helping,just show folk how to find forum/thread and tell them to read,this is a 5 year old phone,these problems where sorted years ago.
try reading.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium
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noob is a strong word, i been flashing phones since HTC Magician days, never had a pleasure to work with Region specific models tho... and better safe the sorry so id rather ask this then spend time unbricking a phone

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tleaf100 said:
er,WARNING...you will brick your hd2 if you are not VERY sure.
most EU roms will brick us t-mob phone,
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Only stock winmo roms, (i.e roms containing a regular radio, its the radio that kills tmouses, not the rom) the op asked about android and wp7, both of which work on either,
and the other way round
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Wrong, tmous roms will not brick a regular hd2
Check your facts.
tleaf100 said:
nice one Sam,your advice is crap,just read posts from bahakhan.
unless you actually know what your talking about don't advice noobs how to brick their phone.
you are doing more harm than helping,just show folk how to find forum/thread and tell them to read,this is a 5 year old phone,these problems where sorted years ago.
try reading.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium
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Lol, its a three n half year old phone, autumn 2009, I know cos I got mine just a few months after release., and there's nothing I said that was wrong, but feel free to point out what you think I got wrong, and I'll explain your noob error.
The OP asked about android and wp7 roms, and i said yes they're fine, because they ARE fine, , the worst that could happen is the phone wont boot the rom and you need to reflash (hence the post saying to read that roms first posts, if it says tmous only, don't flash it to an EU, , simple)
What you think i SHOULD have said was '' yes the roms you asked about will all work fine on a tmous, however EU winmo roms will not work on a tmous.'' Even though the OP didn't ask about winmo, but did ask specifically about two other OS's, you seem to think i should pre-empt his question by answering more than he asked for.
The facts are
1 - All stock roms contain radios - If you flash a regular radio (regular radios are 2.xx.51, tmous radios are 2.xx.50) either as part of a stock rom, or as a separate radio.img, to a tmous, the tmous will be bricked.
That's it, that's all, you can flash anything to a regular hd2, and you can flash any android or WP7 ROM to either tmous or regular, no danger. Some android roms may be specific to tmous but this is ONLY to do with the size of the internal storage, you will NOT brick your phone flashing a tmous specific android rom to a regular hd2. (or the other way around)
2 - this is not supposed to be a newb forum, otherwise it would be called 'xda-noobswhoneedhandholding.com' If teh op asks about android and wp7, and i answer about android and wp7, what's wrong with that? He didn't ask about ubuntu on hd2 either, should i have mentioned that too? If he'd said simply 'will regular roms work on a tmous' i would have answered explaining about the winmo roms as well as the wp7 and android,,, but he didn't, so i didn't.
Scaremongering **** whit.

tleaf100 said:
nice one Sam,your advice is crap,just read posts from bahakhan.
unless you actually know what your talking about don't advice noobs how to brick their phone.
you are doing more harm than helping,just show folk how to find forum/thread and tell them to read,this is a 5 year old phone,these problems where sorted years ago.
try reading.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda premium
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Ok I had to jump in here, Sam has been posting here in the HD2 forums for a very long time now. I personally have much respect for him as his post taught me much of what I low about the HD2. If he tells you something about the HD2 you can trust his information. Plus I learned the hard way that anyone that comes to XDA to mod their device has to take full responsibility for any bad action that happens because of something they did to their device. It is the end users responsiblity to research and confirm the actions they are taking is safe.
Oh and mods please remove the thanks I gave tleaf100 as that was a total mistake on my part. I hit the thanks button on accident when I was trying to touch the quote button.

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