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Hi all,
Firstly apologies for the long post, and thanks for all the info that is up here... however I have managed to get quite lost. I'll try to take you though the whole story as much as I understand it, but I woke up this morning and decided (after 8 months) to finally root my android.
That was 8am, it is now midnight, and I've had sandwiches while working at it, all day. It has been in various stages of bricked, and I think I might have just sent it back that way - should not be playing with it when tired.
Things I have
1 x UK Vodafone HTC Magic, doing return plus power = 32B, HBOOT-1.33.0009 (another story here).
1x 16GB SD-HC card
1x 1gb Card
1x cheap nokia I can use as a reader for the 1gig card, but it can't handle SD-HC
Anyway I started off with the 1 click root idea, which obviously doesn't work these days, so followed the next link, then the next, finding I need to do the 'goldcard' method.
theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/comment-page-3/
Anyway I'm not sure where all the time has gone (16 hours now), but I have learnt what an SPL was, flashed mine to an ‘imperfect’ one, managed to flash it to deteethed google, then cyanogen on top, but it would never boot, and just hangs saying HTC Magic, then managed to flash it using 'myhero' which gave me a Hero like phone.
However I now seem to have messed it up again as I'm determined to do the cyanogen mod - I really want to be able to tether, and lots of other bits and pieces.
The state at the moment therefore is I have it all working with fastboot, and can easily get the Amon_RA recovery image going, but the cm_recovery one makes it hang and do nothing. If I try and replace the recovery section using fastboot it tells me it has failed (I forget the exact message).
I can therefore upgrade things using the Amon_RA backup, but as I said things don't seem to entirely work, and at the moment my phone is hanging (I think as I'm tired I've overwritten my backup). I'm also not sure if this goldcard method is working – I asked a question in the thread and it seems that it might not be.
I guess I'm just looking for a few pointers, after 16 hours sat here I'm generally pretty frustrated and totally lost - there is a lot of information, but there are so many permutations of hardware, and a lot of the information is now out of date. Trying to take everything in as well as deal with a specific problem may actually be beyond me Which is something I hate- being the newbie needing help with a potentially simple problem (though I have had a good go at it).
I'm really not sure what stage the phone is at, have I rooted it? After all I can use the myhero rom, but on the other hand I can't do what I want to do, so therefore is there a problem? Exactly which step makes it ‘rooted?’ as every guide is obviously a chain of events to make it in to something else. I'm honestly not sure, but it isn't a fun feeling – I’m stressed and at the momentI have no phone just a brick that I can fastboot to recovery, and a bunch of backups as soon as I get it working again.
I really had no idea it would be this difficult, and am a big angry at Google/HTC for making it so - it is easier to get Hackintosh working than this! I’ve also managed to do hundreds of other similar things without any problem – Xbox Media Center (including soldering), and a few more spring to mind, all to use the hardware I already own! My hardware!
Anyway advice and pointers are appreciated, as although I've learnt a lot today, I'm still blundering about, and it is a matter of time until I cause serious damage in my attempts to make it better, al alternatively just throw in the towel, but then I don’t think I can go back as I have a horrible feeling that the restore I did didn’t work.
Again anything you can offer is appreciated, and if you need more detail, I’ll do what I can!
Anthony
Also just to add I've tried searching, which is partially how I've got myself in to this mess - solve one problem but make another!
Also I do have my APN settings, so when I get it installed, I can get my google account workign with it - I think i've had to do this about 6 times now! So if there is a way to get it in to 'myhero' which I think I can do again, and download an apk, then I should be able to do that.
Ant
There is a lot of information and everyone is recommended to do their research before rooting the phone.
That being said, it sounds like your phone is rooted if you can boot into recovery and load up a sense ROM. It'd been much easier to follow cyanogen's wiki instructions for non T-mobile 32B Magics. I also have a vodafone Magic and I rooted my phone successfully using the method.
Not having used the goldcard method, I don't exactly know where it went wrong. Have you done full wipes before applying a zip file? Stuff like that which might be easily overlooked?
Yeha I've been wiping it all before flashing, so that isn't the problem.
I also did as much reading as I could before starting (and watching the youtube guides before doing anything), but I guess a lot of the problems were unexpected (aren't they always?), for example I only found out half way through that I would need to flash the SPL, and it took me 40 minutes to figure out what SPL was, and what it did, then another 40 to work out how I was going to do it, then 40 to do so.
I have been following guides though - for the cyanogen one I get all the way down to flashing it with the detoothed google build, then cyanogen (obviously wiping before doing these). All the steps appear successful but then it doesn't boot.
The phone is also a rather strange one, a vodafone branded one that says 32B, but I'm sure it has more RAM.
Currently trying 'method 2' from here
android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting
to see if that works, but I'm not optimistic.
Yup 15 minutes laters same problem - it hangs on HTC magic screen, which is exactly what it does when I go for the Cyanogen one.
I'll goign to try and google for other roms, see if any of them work sucessfully (and might provide a bridghe to what I want to have.
Again however anybody knows good guides, sites or anythign else let me know.
As I said a big problem before is I'm reliant heavily on google, and a lot of the informaion out there is useless, as it is out of date in a big way. Also I don't know anyoen else who has doen this, so recommendations ofmethods/roms are dependent on my reading, not wword of mouth (which is generally better).
Ok I've tried the method 2, defiantely no sucess, went back to the myhero (which performs awfully, so much lag!), and have now tried flaskrec.apk on there.
It does not backup, but then bypassing that step, it gives me the error 'Flash failed'.
Really stuck now, and no idea what to try, any suggestions at all would be helpful. I'm almost at the stage of wishing I'd got an iphone :-(
Ok since I upgraded to the 2.1 myphone has been having major problems almost to the point where I cant use it anymore. I have done a factory reset 3 times and still hasnt fixed the problems. I did do the upgrade over the air, what I need to know is, is there anyway I can downgrade back to the 1.5 or manually re upload the 2.1 version to see if it fixes my problems. Thank you.
what is exactly wrong with your phone that is making it unusable?
There is no current way to downgrade 2.1 to 1.5, even with OTA update, unless you would like to flash the root image, then downgrade back to regular 1.5... Also we may be able to better assist you if you explain the issues you are having with your phone a little better.
The issues I am having are text app force closes all the time, mostly when the phone itself is charging. I dont receive texts a lot, I have to *228 frequently through out the day. When I am at the homescreen the pages will slide all the way to the left and stay there the only way I can get back to anywhere is to either do a soft reset or long press the home key to go to another app. The biggest problem though is the texting and like i said it mostly just happens when the phone is charging. But the keyboard will seriously lag, force close...the cursor jumps to the begining of whatever i am saying or just randomly go to the left and mix all my words up.
have you installed any apps or do you use any widgets? are you using the sense home launcher?
i have not installed any apps since the 3rd time i did the factory reset, and i have no idea about the other question.
It sounds to me like there was some corruption with your OTA update. I would venture to say that you have two options here:
1. Take your Eris into Verizon and have them replace it.
or
2. Root your Eris and enjoy the many available roms here.
*Standard disclaimer: I am not responsible for what you do to your device, it is your choice to do whatever you please...*
why don't you just go into the verizon wieless store and tell them what is happening and they will give you a replacement. i had slight wifi issues so i went there and they gave me a new phone on the dot! they might make you do some factory resets and such there also
yeah thats what i think too..but since i did the over the air update to the 2.1 i didnt think I could do any roots or whatever. I am not that knowledgable when it comes to the roots or any of that. I would like to do that so I can fix my phone and actually use it. Can you please provide me with step by step instructions on how to do that.
ok i am not responsible for this but here is the link to the instructions:http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/53963-guide-stock-1-5-latest-root-2-1-a.html
also this will void your warranty so you can't get a free replacement from verizon after you root
update: these are instructions for windows if you search around you can find instructions for linux and mac (i rooted on a mac so if you need help PM me and i will respond when i can (i am not an expert))
ok so once i dothe root or whatever will my contacts still sync with google?? I cant get a replacement phone anyhow because I bought this phone from a private owner, but I did not have problems with it until right after I did the upgrade a few weeks after I bought the phone.
naenaek22 said:
yeah thats what i think too..but since i did the over the air update to the 2.1 i didnt think I could do any roots or whatever. I am not that knowledgable when it comes to the roots or any of that. I would like to do that so I can fix my phone and actually use it. Can you please provide me with step by step instructions on how to do that.
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Here is a link to a thread that will take you through the root process. These guys, ECLIPS3 and Jamezelle, know their stuff! They even made an app to do the hard part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413
naenaek22 said:
ok so once i dothe root or whatever will my contacts still sync with google?? I cant get a replacement phone anyhow because I bought this phone from a private owner, but I did not have problems with it until right after I did the upgrade a few weeks after I bought the phone.
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Yes, you can still sync with Google. (Did someone say g00gl3?) Lolz
Anyhow, just do some research as you choose which rom to load. Every rom has it's own features and charateristics. Also, make sure to create Nandroid backups whenever flashing from rom to rom just in case of issues. Good luck!
ok since i am very illiterate about the whole rom thing and all that..can you please in your opionion tell me which way to go?? I wont hold anything against you I just want to be able to use my freakin phone. I dont really care about the techy stuff as long as i can use the apps and text and make calls I am good. I looked at the link you provided "google" lol..and i am not sure quite how to do it. I know i am being a big pain right now I just dont want to mess my phone up.
actually the jumpy screen while charging thing is pretty common I believe its a hardware issue though...its my belief the mini usb connecter on the eris is shoddy
plug in the charger and wiggle it you may notice the connetor is not properly fastened to the phone
fyi DO NOT hold the phone up or horizontial by the usb plug...my wife did that to both our phones and ever since then it will flake out
a quick fix would be to plug in wiggle it and unplug you want the mini usb connector back in alignment
naenaek22 said:
ok since i am very illiterate about the whole rom thing and all that..can you please in your opionion tell me which way to go?? I wont hold anything against you I just want to be able to use my freakin phone. I dont really care about the techy stuff as long as i can use the apps and text and make calls I am good. I looked at the link you provided "google" lol..and i am not sure quite how to do it. I know i am being a big pain right now I just dont want to mess my phone up.
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No worries - everyone is hesitant at first - no one wants to brick their phone...
What kind of computer do you use; Windows, Mac, or Linux? This is important for following the root procedure.
I still believe the EMA app that I linked is your best bet. It handles the tough command line tasks for you.
As for a rom, you can see by my signature that I prefer Sense-able 3.1 from Jamezelle. But I also really like Evil Eris 2.0.1 by Framework43.
I would probably suggest Sense-able 3.1 for you because it is based on an Eris build. I have found it to be very stable and doesn't really need any tweaks to run well.
*Just wanted to note that I am in no way knocking any other roms or devs on these boards. Thank you to all the talented devs out there for all the work you do!!!*
i downloaded the sensible rom..as far as the app goes how do I go about getting that or whatever?? I am running windows..but the sensible rom file is downloaded to my desk top i havent done anything with it yet beings that I dont have a clue as to what I am doing lol..
naenaek22 said:
ok since i am very illiterate about the whole rom thing and all that..can you please in your opionion tell me which way to go?? I wont hold anything against you I just want to be able to use my freakin phone. I dont really care about the techy stuff as long as i can use the apps and text and make calls I am good. I looked at the link you provided "google" lol..and i am not sure quite how to do it. I know i am being a big pain right now I just dont want to mess my phone up.
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use the app that jamezelle and i made. its super simple. were always on the irc server if you need help. chat.andirc.net
i am working on downloading it now, i am downloading the net 4 thing ..but i am going into this blind..
naenaek22 said:
i am working on downloading it now, i am downloading the net 4 thing ..but i am going into this blind..
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Just download the EMA app and use it. The thread has instructions to use it. Just read the part about pre-requisites to install the needed software. Then run EMA and follow the center column of 4 commands. Thats really all there is to it.
Like I said earlier, ECLIPS3 and Jamezelle do great work and are willing to provide help. As he said above...
hello folks,
I have seen some threads talking about some WM device freezing in bootup, and stick in the 1st screen when it says "stick together", I had the same problem, and I did contacted HTC for support, it seems they dont have a solution for that problem but to send the phone to them, whicj gonna take around 10 or 15 days to get back -if the warranty still in effect- and they probably gonna charge you something more than the shipping back fees, cause you flashed your device.
I was Planing to send my phone this monday, but i though lets try something and see what gonna happen, so what i did is :
1 - take you SIM card and your SD card, (don't connect your phone to your PC)
2 - While holding the VolUp press the Power button, you will see a screen with your device information
3 - Now connect your device to you PC, and use one of the Wm costume ROM, don't worry about the guide line, and about the winSync instruction, cause it do work without windows Sync
4 - follow the instruction on the costume ROM application, and just ignore the WmSync one.
your phone will reboot, and you probably gonna see your device radio and room information.
I just did the sameting to fix my device, I don't know if just got lucky
But I do have a problem now, I cant install android on my device, and when i try to lunch CLRCAD, it does not start, even when i lunch haret, the device reboot, if someone know a fix to that problem, so may help me.
dude, out of your three posts, two have been new threads that are strictly related to user-problems in a developmental sub-forum, which just isn't cool.
its like someone walking into your work meeting and asking about the lunch schedule (not the best analogy, but you get the point)
if you're really stuck in something, a hard reset always restores things nicely
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dude, out of your three posts, two have been new threads that are strictly related to user-problems in a developmental sub-forum, which just isn't cool.
its like someone walking into your work meeting and asking about the lunch schedule (not the best analogy, but you get the point)
if you're really stuck in something, a hard reset always restores things nicely
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i'm just trying to stay in the dark, waiting for the moment to say something useful, by the way hard reset does not work all the time
The only time a hard reset does not work is if there is something wrong with your phone or somehow you corrupted your ROM. In that case going into Bootloader and upping a new ROM does the trick. A Task29 will really fix things well.
As far as "launching" CLRCAD...it does nothing ANYWAY! You just tap it and that is it...it merely sets up the phone for Android to have sound, nothing more...no prompts, no hour glass nothing. (A SEARCH or reading the first post would have told you this.)
If you get resets in Haret then Android did not load correctly. Merely delete your data.img and start over. If that does not work then you likely corrupted your Android build....format your SD card and reload Android from scratch.
I personally have backed up my working daily build on a weekly basis so in case my Android gets hosed, I merely have to copy my entire backup (which is just a copy of my SD card on my computer) back to the SD card after a format (but have yet to really have a need for this except months ago).
hello all, first let me just say yeah im a noob and yeah i tried searching.
so like the rest of the world i hated win 6.5 more than anything. seriously. probably something like 1. hitler 2. win 6.5 3. snakes
finally i managed to install win 7, but however the battery is just way to short, some numbers wont be recognized, marketplace isnt open in my country, etc. frankly im ****ing tired of all of this. now i want to remove it and again try to install android on NAND. if not maybe just settle for win 6.5 i dont know.
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to clarify:
-basically ive searhed everywhere
-i have the offical rom and i want to install that
-i cant connect my phone to zune,
-so when i run the offical htc rom, it just says connect your phone
You need to either flash a stock ROM via sd card method or via bootloader (hold vol down key during power-on, then flash with normal exe from windows).
so, just to be clear,
you got a device with Win mobile on it which you seem to have a massive dislike for and wrongly make an assumption that everyone else doesnt like it, then in a hugely disrespectful manor you compare it to hitler, quite what you are thinking is anyones guess but it might be worth considering a change of manor is perhaps in need
Then attempted to install WP7 without fully reading everything.
Then try and install an original ROM without Fully reading everything
I think That about sums it up
So, in the intrest of sanity, go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074233
read it all, and if you have an issue reply in that thread
Couple of pointers to help your days on XDA dev out, if there is a thead open on an issue use it, dont make a new one because it makes it harder for people who actually search for things to find what they are loooking for and its a pain for people who try an help because we are forever repeating ourselves
Secondly, when you make a tread it gave you a list of threads already out here with a similar name, if you didnt see anything relivent its because your use of title is pretty poor, Its windows phone 7 or WP7, Noob isnt a word most of us use
Thirdly, if you can not use the XDA search then use google, (i find it much more accurate) i just searched google using this string
XDA DEV LEO WP7 FLASH ORIGINAL
and the third one down took me straight to that thread above
XDA DEV is pretty obvious, LEO is the listed device name thats on this site WP7 is the OS then FLASH ORIGINAL is the subject matter im searching for
Keep it short, like bullet points, not a long story
So, head over there an folk will be happy to help you out, including myself
I hope i didnt sound rude and off hand, im simply nudging you in the right direction
Neo84 You need to either flash a stock ROM via sd card method or via bootloader (hold vol down key during power-on, then flash with normal exe from windows).
ok, thanks for you reply. sorry to ask but what is a stock ROM? is that like an official ROM from HTC?
also tried to hold down the volume key, get the coloured screen, but then cant do anything. where would one find the "normal exe"? thanks for your willingness to help out someone not as experienced as yourself
and dazza, my good man i do appreciate the nugde, but do find it a bit harsh.
you got a device with Win mobile on it which you seem to have a massive dislike for and wrongly make an assumption that everyone else doesnt like it,
-everyone i spoke to agrees, including the guy who sold it to me for almost nothing (bought for 1100 US 6 months before) because he hated it like no other
then in a hugely disrespectful manor you compare it to hitler, quite what you are thinking is anyones guess but it might be worth considering a change of manor is perhaps in need
-well irony doenst work online my bad, haha seriously noone in ther right mind would compare the 2 and/or accuse someone of doing so
Then attempted to install WP7 without fully reading everything.
-i did, it works almost perfectly, reading on these forums ive seen plenty of ppl having issues, so yeah its close to perfect, except the battery drain (which still works for a full day so i can charge at night)
ive searched google, xda and god knows what. and after trying all, my good old hd2 still wont connect maybe in the end its not worth the time and effort, just leave WP7 on there (it is in fact pretty sweet) and buy an offical android next time! however i do feel i have the right to be a bit angry. winmo 6.5 isnt worthy of selling for a high price in 2010.
anyways, thanks for your help, i will check out those links and see where it takes me just remember that not everyone is as experienced as yourself, a friendly heads up works wonders sometimes
I appologise, it was not supposed to come across rude, harsh is perhaps an accurate way of putting it, remember that some of us take a lot of time out of our lives to go over these things, infact some have even added entries in to the Wiki for just such issues (check leo wiki section) and im sure you can imagin that repeating yourself over and over can be quite frustrating!
I completely agree that a "heads up" is always needed, which is why ive nudged (perhaps with a prod or two ) you in the right direction, those few tips can save you a lot of hassle in the future, the google one especially as i know only too well that the XDA search is crap
my s4 lcd cracked on its own, no dropping, no misuse, and i didnt have a chance to back up my files/contacts. I recently switched to android after five years with iphone. With the iphone i could simply plug into my pc and transfer files to itunes with no real knowledge. I figured in this day and age and with the level of tech on the galaxy s4 I could do the same.
my problem is i have 8 years of contacts and a few months of photos, videos, etc. I do not wish to lose. If I had to prioritize, the contacts are definitely paramount as I have them no other place. I know, i know, stupid for assuming recovery would be as simple as plugging into my pc.
My problem lies in that I had a lockcode on my phone, did NOT enable developers options prior to it crashing, and have ZERO experience with "crm flashing, and mounting, etc, etc" and really have no clue what they even are. I can follow instructions and learn pretty quickly, but cant write code or anything like that if that is what is required.
Can anyone provide me with any help or suggestions? I am even willing to take it somewhere to have it recovered if thats an option. I really am desperate for help here and would appreciate anything. Thanks. YOu can message me here or email at [email protected].
Thank you all.
BTw, i downloaded an app called drfone which came up in a google search under "recover dead/broken s4 data:". Well, i dont know who actually took the time to write that post out but it has detailed instructions on how to recover the data from a dead or broken phone, but contradicts itself at every turn since you need access to the touchscreen on the phone itself. That poster must of left their logic button unchecked that day.
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my s4 lcd cracked on its own, no dropping, no misuse, and i didnt have a chance to back up my files/contacts. I recently switched to android after five years with iphone. With the iphone i could simply plug into my pc and transfer files to itunes with no real knowledge. I figured in this day and age and with the level of tech on the galaxy s4 I could do the same.
my problem is i have 8 years of contacts and a few months of photos, videos, etc. I do not wish to lose. If I had to prioritize, the contacts are definitely paramount as I have them no other place. I know, i know, stupid for assuming recovery would be as simple as plugging into my pc.
My problem lies in that I had a lockcode on my phone, did NOT enable developers options prior to it crashing, and have ZERO experience with "crm flashing, and mounting, etc, etc" and really have no clue what they even are. I can follow instructions and learn pretty quickly, but cant write code or anything like that if that is what is required.
Can anyone provide me with any help or suggestions? I am even willing to take it somewhere to have it recovered if thats an option. I really am desperate for help here and would appreciate anything. Thanks. YOu can message me here or email at [email protected].
Thank you all.
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Do you have samsung kies installed on your pc?? Also can your phone be switched on? I mean does it power up?? If so I think you can backup your contacts n stuff....get kies on your pc