Hey guys any questions and discussions you want to have keep them here.
Any questions you need to ask or any conversations that you want to have between each other leave it here and let Airbus360 do his work on his thread.
If mods feel this is a pointless thread by all means then go ahead and close it but rather than having hundred of posts and loads of pages of the same thing being asked over and over again in the Development section might as well keep it here where it is a General discussion thread and forum.
If anyone feels that there should be more info on this post feel free to let me know.
Thanks
The number of "I'll clean the forums by creating a grouping-thread and be a hero" is pretty high nowadays. I wonder what kind of threads should I start grouping .
"If you have problems with your telephone, post here!"
Don't mind me, just carry on!
TheSaw said:
The number of "I'll clean the forums by creating a grouping-thread and be a hero" is pretty high nowadays. I wonder what kind of threads should I start grouping .
"If you have problems with your telephone, post here!"
Don't mind me, just carry on!
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sorry my bad only trying to help might as well let someone close this thread
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sorry my bad only trying to help might as well let someone close this thread
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Don't be silly, it's a nice thread, really! I'm just lost a bit with all these discussions threads about ICS releases and updates and leaks and development threads, don't know which one is which.
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Don't be silly, it's a nice thread, really! I'm just lost a bit with all these discussions threads about ICS releases and updates and leaks and development threads, don't know which one is which.
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Well all honesty i am kinda lost as well. Hence why i thought i make this one and try and keep up to date with everything that is going on..
What really surprises me is that people forget that all builds that are out are alpha builds and not stable...i am still on my Gingerbread rom and still loving it as it is solid and stable....Why people get so excited about an alpha is beyond me...
The real buzz will be when devs will have actual sources to be able to upgrade their roms to ICS level..That is when all the fun really should be starting not now
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I wouldn't release anything if I was Airbus. After all the mud thrown on the other thread, sadly by other more "experienced" devs I wouldn't be surprised if he just cancelled the thread n disappeared.
I would.
To me it screams of jealousy on what Airbus has achieved the fact that people like Codeworkx and Paradoxxx are slamming him and all of a sudden made a complete u-turn on their earlier statement that they would release nothing until they had a stable build of CM9.
Airbus is trying to make a rom from scratch with inadequate tools, and he's not experienced. I think he's doing the best he can with the tools at his disposal.
I don't understand why so many people have their "panties in a wad" over Ice Cream Sandwich... I have been patiently trolling these forums and anxiously awaiting the day that a stable release is made. ANYthing made by a developer (that isn't garbage) I am thankful for, after all developers could say **** it and not give us anything. This rom was only released to help subdue those who are flaming over the release of CM9 anyhow...
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I don't understand why so many people have their "panties in a wad" over Ice Cream Sandwich... I have been patiently trolling these forums and anxiously awaiting the day that a stable release is made. ANYthing made by a developer (that isn't garbage) I am thankful for, after all developers could say **** it and not give us anything. This rom was only released to help subdue those who are flaming over the release of CM9 anyhow...
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good valid point...i am waiting for a stable version as well..and all honesty i might just wait for the stable official release itself from Samsung..As long as my phone works great as it is at the moment i am happy with that. If a stable leak comes first though and developers like Pulser, Checkrom team and Hyperdroid can get their hands on it then certainly that would be worth the jump. But at this moment of time when people are having a moan on someone who is trying to tweak a build that is already out and modify it to the way he wants that is disrespectful to him as he is not holding a gun to anyones head really and asking neither for help or money...
and last point people really need to chill out...more important stuff in life than a rom
I don't think that's a nice idea to put another thread on ICS.
Dev become more and more arrogant, people more and more stupid.
So why do you open this one? We already now the situation.
Forget about ICS, wait for a new firmware annoucement and then see if the new one is stable enought. If not, then forget again and repeat.
That thread is full of lulz, the dev should stop baiting users the way he's doing now.
So SGS+ won the ICS -poll on facebook. And DroidXDA promised to port ICS for our device. I am so glad there's finally some progress. I'll post the news here so don't be afraid to subscribe this thread
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didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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Its not on the blog... its on their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/DroidXDA)
Really looking forward to the port...
IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
-dedlxe
gonna build a kernel to test ICS for myself to see how it handles what is different beside CPU?
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IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
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So let me put this straight. We don't even have a dedicated subforum and now you are denying us even a single topic (which will be lost anyway) ?
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Looking forward on this. Hopefully it will be stable.
Any news ?
I dont think here will come anything useable...
Still, if it would work would be best
I feel like they just want to generate clicks on their ads.
Everyday I am reading preannouncemen. Mh, I clicked so often on those ads really thought they would try to make something happen.
value pack released
There is nothing much exciting. Samsung released a value pack for i9001. Installation instruction can be found in this very own forum.
Same crapWiz UI and additional face detection added.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources Nvidia just released images of Ics 4.0 for Tegra 2 based phones, do you think this can help our community?
Well this looks exciting - here's hoping it's of some use!
Wrong section folk. We already know of it, relax!
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I am so excited!!
Yeah, good for "Nvidea"
now if only "someone" gets a .39 or 3.x kernel to work for the atrix!
I just want to point out how easy a simple search can return results. All I did was enter "developer.nvidia" (from the link you posted) and I got back a fair amount of results that include:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21723572&postcount=726
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21696714&postcount=50
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21716186&postcount=59
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21699953&postcount=1
All of which were posted before you started this thread. Which I feel happens to be in the wrong section but that's not my job to decide that, I really wanted to emphasize the redundancy of your thread.
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http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources Nvidia just released images of Ics 4.0 for Tegra 2 based phones, do you think this can help our community?
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To all in this Forum...... The Forum has been Running Smooth and the Members in this forum have been extremely civil and helpful to each other......
WE Moderators really do notice and thank you all for being such a great group.
Going forward........ FYI The Vibrant is one of the few older devices that gets to sport ICS on it... it still is a great device.
Jelly Bean is just popping out now and I have talked with some of the devs, and they think it can and will make it to the Vibrant.... Soooo . . . that Original Galaxy Phone is still got some GET-UP still in it......
But, , , Do not expect for at least a month ... and to that please do not post a bunch of ETA threads as I will have to delete them a spam... Just be patient and realize how many other phones who do not have ICS yet......
Thanks All, ~~ oka1
Do you know when JB is coming out?
Just kidding, understood.
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Do you know when JB is coming out?
Just kidding, understood.
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To answer that question, The framework is very different and alot of things have changed. 1st they have to figure how to make the new framework fit older platform, then figure if memory size might be an issue.... and so on and so on...... Then when they got it right, then I would guess the Vibrant will be way down the priority list. That's the answer as good as it gets. :cyclops::cyclops:
I am out of thanks for the day on my tablet (I'll have to hop on my phone/tapatalk and hit you up) but thank you very much for posting this.
We are all excited for JB but I have to agree with Oka1, there are still very few devices running ICS let alone ports of Jelly Bean. In the RC forums, there are so many users who are still on Gingerbread and a few who are on Froyo with no hope at all from their hardware, manufactures or dev teams.
The Vibe is almost 2 years old and still blows the doors off many other devices. It is so easy to use, the bootloaders are unlocked and it has External_SD and removable battery (#noGNex or HTC ONE X/S) . It is because of these but also many other reasons that we are able to get working Gingerbread, ICS and now Jelly Bean ROMs for a device that was officially abandoned at Eclair and only got Froyo through a grassroots Twitter campaign.
Viva la Vibrant!!!
I wouldn't worry too much about JellyBean, since Cyanogen and AOKP supports the Vibrant.
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The more expensive the devices, the more elitist the fanboys become. So maybe here, but less at SIII and Nexus section.
THANKS:victory:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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markey97 said:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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First of all, i appreciate all the work of ivendor , skywalker, brood, xistance and arco and others who did an amazing job of porting major roms to our device. But i must honestly say, i agree on some points with the OP. It is amazing with what we achieved on our small but awesome community, but our phone is getting old and eventually we will be left behind. So now it is the best time to combine all of the knowledge that is hidden in our i9001 section to ensure the future.
In the past year i have been in this section i saw a lot of stuff that could be fixed faster if people would communicate more, like the well known cm9 camera problem (i dont know for sure there was miscommunication as i dont know what happened in the background). A dev team would be awesome.
But i am afraid that this won't work anymore. The glorious days of the i9001 are over. Many good devs left us.
But is is worth the shot. Would be so awesome! If you have any android knowledge, please join.
(I am to stupid. I cant join. I know how qtADB works but that is all).
Also i like the idea of combining the two devices and make a giant dev team for both so we can benefit from there knowledge and they from ours!
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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No i'm not, otherwise I couldn't have read the forum and written this here
(Just joking)
I know that we have a lot of ROMs, but there are some from 2 different developers because one of them hasn't updated very long or stopped the project and then a new dev took the work.
Thats your personal opinion and I accept it.
I mean this all because of the bugs that have to be fixed.
No its not that awesome, look at the dhd, they have a big dev team who solves most of the bugs there and they have fully functional Android 4.2 and MANY more ROMs than we have also have a look at some other 2 or more year old devices, most of them have big dev teams who do fast and great work.
I really appreciate the work of all our developers (!!we have a 3.4 kernel which even much newer and better devices don't have!!) but we can make this even better and faster.
Thanks i know this but in general section we couldn't get a team together and i also forgot about this section because i mostly (nearly only) use the developement section
Greets and regards,
markey
I seem to agree with xellar's view. Our I9001 forum is great as it is for a two year old device and development seems to be moving forward at a well-placed pace. I dont see any point in creating a ''dev team'' . Dont get me wrong , I'd love to see it happen. But Im comfortable with the pace here .
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I would also apreciate a dev. BUT the developement of the last 2 years was that good, that i can't comlpain on anything. It works very well the way it goes now. Maybe in the near future (~6 moths) when more importent (doesn't mean the other are unimportant) devs leave the s+ and 5.0 will be roll out, maybe then we need a dev-team.
But we have already s.t. like dev-teams:
Arco and Ivendor (CM9/10)
The kernel devs (Erik, castagna, Biagio, Christopher, ...)
Xistance and Doom (CM10.1)
They all share allready there knowledge and function.
So... No need to hurry in my opinion :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted
i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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I'd love to be in the team
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i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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As true as this is, I still don't like the fact that you say we just fork their work. Both arco and ivendor haven't even started doing any real work on 4.2, forget giving us anything. Camcory and I have brought 4.2 by ourselves, just using arco's kernel source(which is REALLY important so I'm saying nothing to arco).
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Only one thing to say:: does not make any sense at all...
What op asked is on team..wats happening here is just nonsense..if somebody interested to work with him pls do it..if u are not interested get the f** k out of here...its not must that each and everyone has to put their point of view..if u are ready to help then help..otherwise leave from this thread...simple....
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This thread needs to be closed. Its like a slap in the face for all of our developers. Shame on you! Show some respect to them. They sacrifiy a lot time to give us a better user experience for our phones but well, everyone is like "hurrdhurr dat fone is not even like a galaxy s3 now brah after flasching tis rom my fone suks bad ass".. Instead of saying thanks to the developers or donate some buck to them for a fresh beer or something.
Always remember this is a single core device, with a midrange chipset and it cant handle even close as much as a S3 or S2.
We have a fully working (vsync and tripple buffer are working and all ither stuff) Jellybean cm10. Not even the s2 or s3 have this because of the lack of sources for their exynos cpus.
I hate this unrepectless behavior.
Be happy with what you got here FOR FREE. And for a Non-flagship device like our i9001, we have A HELL OF A LOT roms and kernels!
Get your **** together people.
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Disrespectfull: YES understandeble: YES.
At our forum/development we got 1-person teams. Some ROMS are made with someone on the background (CM9/CM10/CM10.1).. But the other ROMS that are based on these are made and maintained by 1 person.
I got the feeling that some of us dont have PATIENCE..
And that is something what is very stupid.
Teams are working faster and fixing faster and better bugs in ROMS, that is true.
If the OP want to make a team just ask some developers for godssake. These topic are as disrespectfull as saying WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE OR FIXING THIS OR THAT in every goddamm topic.
Just my opnion..
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you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Alright, even through, I shouldn't have any comments here as you already screw things up really bad, I feel like I must do it to clear things up a bit around here.
First of all, you said yourself that you don't have any knowledge related to software development, so why are you messing with people that actually devote time to do it? If you have no ideea what development is, why are you talking about it in this manner? I mean, it is ok to ask or to make mistakes, everybody does, nobody is perfect but I consider this post offensive and I must defend myself here.
Second, as far as I'm consern, my GitHub is MINE and I and only I will decide when to push something there. I cannot be forced by anyone to do anything. So, your sentece "I didn's see anything going on on your github" so what?!? Tell me, why should I post anything just for you to see it? Ah, you think I lack activity? Again, so what? I or any other Open Source developer cannot be forced by anyone to publish something. We do this because we like it, we are not paid for it. Maybe if you would pay me to do these things, yeah you could have the right to judge my activity. This is open source, this is Android, the developers are bringing stuff to the end user but the end user is free to choose if he wants to use that piece of software or if he doesn't want to use that software. Same applies to you, you don't have to flash anything on your phone just because it's there online, if you don't like it, don't use it .
About my 3.4 kernel. I mentioned in the OP of the thread that it is an early "alpha" nothing more. I even used the word "preview". If the end user doesn't like the way the kernel is, than he wont use it.
Oh, and I'm not supposed to say this but I'll take this opportunity just for you to see that I'm not lacking activity and actually I want to develop that 3.4 kernel, also I'll explain why I didn't update anything on github.
I worked locally, and everytime I fixed something, 2 other errors came up, after I fixed those 2, another 3 came up and so on. That's why I choosed not to push anything to git until I get something concret. I said this a million times actually: I have no ideea when that kernel will be ready and if it will be ready, I am going to decide if it will be published to git and XDA or not. This is my personal decision, you can't influence me in any way to do anything.
Also, I'm not a full time developer, I'm still a beginer, I'm still learning things here and I choosed to share my work with others, here on XDA because I thought that my work could be usefull. If you or anyone else don't find it usefull, as I said, don't use it .
Also, ivendor won't quit either and there is nothing on me...again, you are trying to push me...this is hilarious...I choosed to start the 3.4 kernel project but that doesn't mean that I must finish it... I really hope you understood something from this post, if not please, just let it go and ignore it. Also, there is no need to apologise, you were wrong by trying to put pressure on me but I ignored it, as you probaly noticed.
Cheers,
Erik
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Insulting to our developers an absolutly not development related..
Cheers
Thread Closed:
This topic has turned to a flame war and no longer serves a purpose.
Appreciate the work the devs do, as they aren't required to do anything...
~ The-Captain