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Cyanogenmod 7 Development Thread - Take 2

DEVS! Would it be possible to use a FroYo Kernel for CM7 like the Droid X Developers did?
DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!
As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.
Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.
They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.
4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.
From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).
Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.
Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.
And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.
Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.

Original Android <3ers! said:
DON'T TROLL! IF YOU DO, THE MODS WILL SEE IT AND BAN YOU!
As we all know, the last Thread that involved CM7 Development for the Epic was closed because people got Off-Topic, so I decided to start this one just so we know where developing is going. This is just for those people who don't know how to read Github or don't want to check it every 3 seconds, and are okay with waiting a week for getting an update.
Please PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT ASK FOR ETA'S! I know that someone will ask, but seriously. DO NOT ASK. It's annoying as hell. If the developers know when a release would happen, they'd tell us. Trust me, they would. But developing for our phone is difficult.
They can't Port something from the Vibrant or the Captivate because their GSM Phones and we're CDMA, meaning we use different signals or some crap like that. But I think it means that 3G and Calls and all of that would be hard to work on, not to mention 4G.
4G is an issue because it's something not many phones have, especially in the Galaxy S line. Remember that we're one of the original Galaxy S Phones, so we have it, and the Captivate, Vibrant, and Fascinate don't. This makes stuff even harder because then the developers have one more thing on their list to work on, that they never had before.
From what I saw last time, nullghost was trying to port the Nexus S 4G .35 Kernel. This is a Gingerbread Kernel. Remember that the Nexus S 4G is a STOCK GINGERBREAD phone, with no TouchWiz. The Kernel is just the thing that connects the software with the hardware, so this might also be hard because we have a keyboard and most other phones don't (I don't know if this really effects it, but from my prior experiences from Android, it does).
Lets say the Kernel gets Ported. The NS4G has 4G (no kidding). Don't quote me, but I think that'd get the camera working because obviously the camera is a piece of hardware, that should get 4G working because the the NS4G has it. GPS should probably work, although I'm sure that works if you use the GPS Status Method, and I'm not too sure about MMS and what the issue is with that.
Now, when I check Github, it appears as if the developers have stopped working? I mean, props to them for all they've done for us, but if I'm reading github properly, it seems as if they've taken a break (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Really. The only big problem we have is with people who won't stop asking for ETA's. Please, just don't ask. You'll cause more problems then you will help if you do get a reply.
And if anybody has any questions about the CM7-A4, feel free to ask them here. You should however check the closed Thread. It might be locked, but there's a reason it's not deleted, you can still read it, so please do.
Remember, no asking for ETA's. Just don't do it. Any questions, check the older Thread and in a few days or weeks what should be this Thread. Also check Github. No ETA's. Keep this on task, no gangster stuff. Kthnxbye.
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i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.
I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.
People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...
While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.

There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.

daddy_droid said:
i disagree with the dont ask about ETA.
I think that if you announce that you are working on something then people have a right to ask for an eta.
People should be informed as to what is going on both good and bad...
While it can get to be like are we their yet thing... but then i would say you should have never announced something to begin with.
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In other news....
I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.
With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.

And queue take 3... omfg, when will people learn, this is not to debate ETA.

Original Android <3ers! said:
There's a reason I made that rule. If you look at every other CM7 Thread for the Epic, their closed because of ETA's. Don't even attempt to question what I have posted, it's based on fact.
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really not allowed to talk about that? Since when can someone else take away my free speech rights to ask when something is gonna to be released? If you dont want to answer a question for eta then just dont reply to it. After all no one is making you reply to anything.

If you HAVE NOTHING TO SHARE DONT POST IN DEVELOPMENT.

I'm trying to be honest with you and save you from being flamed. Did you even read the first post? The devs don't have the kernel source for the Epic 2.3.3 or beyond, nor do they have it for the Nexus S 4G, so until then, they have to stop developing because they cannot do ANYTHING without it. So an answer to an ETA is never.

lynyrd65 said:
In other news....
I heard the Droid X has Cyanogenmod mostly working with it's stock 2.2 kernel. I wonder what all the Droid X devs had to do to make it work.
With the 2.3 kernel source being so close to fruition, it probably isn't worth it to give their method a try but if samsung can't get gingerbread working in the next couple of months it might be worth a shot.
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I think this would be a good idea while we wait for the Kernel source actually...

nullghost mentioned that CM6 would be in the same state as CM 7. Idk why, but yea.

No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!

Original Android <3ers! said:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
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Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?

Darkshneider said:
Oh damn it, reading comprehension! My bad, my bad, continue the thread. Devs: could this also be possible?
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No.
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Original Android <3ers! said:
No no, we're saying use the FroYo Kernel for CM7!
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Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.
We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.
We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.
If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.
Why?
Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.
In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.
That's that.

The reason being? I dont get how theres source for 2.2 and we cant get CM6, how would 2.3 source help us get CM7 working?
And I got my answer while typing because of Deca. Thnx!

Decad3nce said:
Fail. We've attempted this. A lot of the updated proprietary modules from gb and necessary for gb require updated kernel drivers which are present in .35 and would require more work to backport than what we're doing now.
We also do have NS4G source, we kanged everything we could from it.
We are lacking proper regulator sauce along with the branched victory gpio assignments which we can only fire blanks at right now since they have a completely new naming scheme in the aries(.35) tree.
If you want to know why these threads are closed, it's because I send requests that they be closed.
Why?
Because the participants in the threads usually spend more time speculating about possible scenarios rather than reading or asking 'good' questions.
In short, we're waiting on .35 release; then we'll either A) merge the victory bits to the unified aries tree or B) merge cm specific bits from aries to our victory sauce.
That's that.
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So you don't like me?

Original Android <3ers! said:
So you don't like me?
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I don't mind you, your motives are good, but this environment fosters redundant and pointless poo flingin'. Which usually leads to us responding with the same information, over and over.

Original Android <3ers! said:
So you don't like me?
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Great way to lose another Dev.
Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.
Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.

lynyrd65 said:
Great way to lose another Dev. Remember Konane? I really liked him. It's such a pitty.
Decadence, I appreciate your hard work. I'm sorry for causing this. I know you have done what you can and are working as hard as is possible, please don't be deterred by these threads. Some of us really do appreciate your work.
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I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|

Decad3nce said:
I'm not deterred. Far from it. Maybe bored since I only have one summer class and way too much free time to stare at proprietary bits :|
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Developers tend to support developers.
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[OFF] - A proposal for the dev's and cookers!

Hello friends! I created this thread to make a proposal to the dev's and cookers ...
Well, what I mean is that we have bright developers of ROMs for our XPERIA X8
I think most of them work on your own ROMs, without the assistance of anyone (I'm NOT saying they are not able to cook a ROM)
What I mean is that I think that all the dev's of X8 ROM's (as racht, doixanh or AnDyX), cookers (like ME!) and designers (like AChep) come together and form a team, so to create an all-new custom ROM with the help and idea of ​​all users of the Xperia X8!
The forum is for everyone to share their ideas and how they can help in the development of custom ROMs for our devices, and I believe that together we can create a perfect ROM!
That's the idea and proposed to you all, developers of ROMs of our Xperia X8 ...
I think it's a good idea!
Who agrees with me?
Remember: In unity is strength!

It sounds good in theory but I doubt they will work on a single rom. As far as I see it, racht likes gingerbread and has abandoned his floyo rom, but dx likes froyo so he started adding things from gingerbread for users to have a better experience while using it. One thing that I know for certain, if someone manages to find a fix for a problem in any rom I am sure they will share their work with others, because that's why they use these forums.
As for jerpelea he seems to focus more on the X10, which will get official gingerbread update, instead on X8 and that saddens me abit, but is his time to spend and he can do whatever he wants with it... AnDyX has done 2 modules but no rom so maybe ask him to make a rom from scratch by using knowledge gained from other devs.

I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...

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I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
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Hehe this is best idea i ever see on this forum ! Come one devs! Xda rocks! !! Sent from xgin 5.4
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I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...

great idea, but... We only need to know if our devs agree with that..

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I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
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I feel the same way. It is very difficult to work with multiple people at the same project, each in a different place. Everyone should have from time to time the exact same code and this would necessarily mean working in shifts and not in a team.
What I see much more easy to do is try to understand what features should have the "perfect rom", such as it is doing doixanh for froyobread, posting polls and seeing what the majority prefers.
We could start with topics such as: 1) froyo base vs. gingerbread base, 2) favorite launcher, 3) basic applications preinstalled .. etc etc. ..
Then we might ask a developer to take charge of the project and prepare the ROM. As an incentive we can provide some donation, if at the end of the project will be many users of the forum to participate, there won't be too hard to put together a little cash I think.
What do you think? Could it be possible?

While I won't downplay this idea, because it does have its merit, this would be VERY hard to achieve. Devs would need to communicate everything they did to eachother, which could prove difficult. However what we COULD do is designate assignments for a specific dev. For example:
Doixanh - Porting Gingerbread features to Froyo and performance
Jerpelea & Blagus - Cracking the bootloader
And so on, so forth. Publish all the work in Google Code or Github to make easily accessible for the whole community.
This to me seems the only really viable way to go...

well I hope so !! really they are the betters and could pass something nice

So typical.
All i see are random members saying that it can't be done or that it is so hard to achieve.
Why can't you wait for devs to answer for themselves?

...I agree with all that this is difficult but... I think that the are already work in a team... xda devs' team... they already help each other enought.

First of all, this thread belongs to Genreal section.
Now on-topic:
I don't see any usefullness from this idea.
1st Devs are helping each other anyway for sure
2nd.. 2nddd?!?!?! :O
Oh, yeah... there's no second.
Point is:
Example: doixanh is stuck at something when making froyobread.. he will ask someone for tip...
racht hackdroid has camera disabled... kuya will fix it (altough he's a cooker, not dev I suppose)
You got it??
Apps preistalled, default launcher... install your favorites by yourself you lazyasses

if OP want it like cyanogenmod,
than it is freexperia project.
I don't see it working.
btw, yes, I'm not a "dev", I like and always be a newbie

Theres already a project like that, it is FreeXperia project, i suppose everyone already know that.
The point is, we should just continue that project, if someone already have a well programming knowledge, then they should just help that project, creating the libs for X8 to be used for 2.3+ Android version later.

that's good idea,newbie like me very happy to hear it

That's a good idea, but i think that we'll have more progress about a Cyanogen 7 rom soon enough.

KeiranFTW appreciation thread (please arco?)

Hey People
I have been following the ICS port by KieranFTW since it began, and to be blunt, I don't think he is getting enough credit for the work he has done. Considering the age of the Wildfire, the fact that he managed to take a port and get it booting in the first place is amazing enough, but to then get full touchscreen, calls, and messaging working as well is more than most people could expect.
From what I understand, arco has managed to get wifi and sound working in this ICS port, and I would like to ask him if he would consider sharing his knowledge with KieranFTW to enable him to complete the port. I understand that arco has CM9 to work on, but in recognition of the work that KieranFTW has done I think it would be a nice thing to do. What do other people think?
Also a big thankyou from me if KieranFTW is reading this. I can't believe I can get an almost fully functioning ICS on my Wildfire; I never thought I would see 2.3!

I would say that is entirely up to arco
He is also spending his free time on this and maybe he just doesn't have the time or willingness to spare explaining a lot of complicated stuff to someone else,
I wouldn't think any less of arco if that is the case
It would be nice for keiranFTW and a good opportunity maybe to learn a few things, but I would understand arco as well if he isn't inclined to help.
everyone is free to ask, but arco is also to refuse

builtonRock said:
Hey People
I have been following the ICS port by KieranFTW since it began, and to be blunt, I don't think he is getting enough credit for the work he has done. Considering the age of the Wildfire, the fact that he managed to take a port and get it booting in the first place is amazing enough, but to then get full touchscreen, calls, and messaging working as well is more than most people could expect.
From what I understand, arco has managed to get wifi and sound working in this ICS port, and I would like to ask him if he would consider sharing his knowledge with KieranFTW to enable him to complete the port. I understand that arco has CM9 to work on, but in recognition of the work that KieranFTW has done I think it would be a nice thing to do. What do other people think?
Also a big thankyou from me if KieranFTW is reading this. I can't believe I can get an almost fully functioning ICS on my Wildfire; I never thought I would see 2.3!
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Sorry to tell you, but, everything that he has done was following tutorials. Everyone with some free time could have done that. I do appreciate the time he spent though, but, that is it.
Smokzye

smokzye said:
Sorry to tell you, but, everything that he has done was following tutorials. Everyone with some free time could have done that. I do appreciate the time he spent though, but, that is it.
Smokzye
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That may be true, but how many other people would be willing to give up that amount of time? Isn't the point of XDA to encourage would-be devs like Kieran? Of course arco is free to say no, and obviously I wouldn't think any less of him if he did, I just think it would be a nice gesture.

While I completely agree with your point on appreciating Keiran's efforts, sorry, I don't agree with the other parts of your "request". It's entirely upto Arco to release the sources (Which will be put up sooner or later in any case - it's pretty much guaranteed. In all probability, he does not want to release half working / half baked sources), but, to make threads and trying to garner public support for stuff like this - Sorry,I don't agree with it. It's not exactly portraying his true picture.

Hmmm... It might be coming across that I just want a fully working ICS, which isn't the case. I'm quite happy with the port that's available now. Even if it happens behind the scenes with nobody else knowing, I think it would be nice if arco shared how he managed to get Wifi and sound working with Kieran. I think it would encourage him to continue in his development skills.
Of course that's just my opinion...

While keirans efforts are pretty good. I think a thread trying to persuade a developer already known to be porting ICS is a bit far.
While its great that you want to support a dev, it may be a pain for Arco to read pages of requests while he's working, in the long run if you want a ICS rom, you should probably stay quiet.
Just my thoughts.
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Justice™ said:
While keirans efforts are pretty good. I think a thread trying to persuade a developer already known to be porting ICS is a bit far.
While its great that you want to support a dev, it may be a pain for Arco to read pages of requests while he's working, in the long run if you want a ICS rom, you should probably stay quiet.
Just my thoughts.
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I'm not sure you fully understand what I am saying. I am quite happy with the port that Kieran has done. I can always use mobile data so the Wi-fi issue is OK with me, I never use BT, and I am prepared to put up with no sound so I can have ICS on my Wildfire. I use this ROM as my daily driver and I think it's great. I am trying to draw attention to Kieran's work; I am not trying to get anything for myself. Saying that, of course when arco releases his version of ICS I will be using that... Nobody else has to know if arco PM's Kieran with some tips. I know he is very busy though.

I don't see much point in this thread, helping or not helping Keiran is completely up to Arco and if it was me this thread would be a bit insulting.
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Second thing, I remember Arco posted that this port will not be able to achieve working wifi etc... Why? Because it's a port, it's not ROM built from source.
Do you even know the difference from what is Arco doing and what KeiranFTW is doing? Maybe Arco is not able to help KeiranFTW since he's porting rom from another device, thought of that?
ICS source is quite different from GB, and to get somethings working it has to be built from source.
And to close my thoughts, to KeiranFTW respect for time spent. I'm sure he learned a lot and will be able to use it.
Instead of pushing Arco, leave him do his bit and accept Keiran's work for what it is. Somewhat functioning port from which you get a glimpse of what maybe can be done for wildfire.
I'm really pissed at what this section has become lately
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Well obviously I have really offended some people, which was not my intention.
I'm sorry. I was not trying to push arco. As I said, I realise he is very busy. I was only trying to gather appreciation for Kierans efforts.
We should try to encourage developers, shouldn't we?

builtonRock said:
Well obviously I have really offended some people, which was not my intention.
I'm sorry. I was not trying to push arco. As I said, I realise he is very busy. I was only trying to gather appreciation for Kierans efforts.
We should try to encourage developers, shouldn't we?
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In a way i agree with everyone here, i understand the frustration with having to wait for a fully working ics rom but these things take time and we should also be thankful that arco is even working on this rom at all as he has a new phone and will probably be developing more for that than the wildfire in future.
Keiran did a great job with the port (much better than some others that tried, myself included) I managed to fix the network issues myself but the touchscreen drivers really had me stumped until he fixed it. I have a lot of respect for him now for proving to us all that ICS can run on the wildfire, yes it's a real shame that he couldn't get it fully working but he's only a young developer who still has many things to learn which i'm sure he will as time goes by and i wish him all the luck in the future.
I don't think arco should help him finish that rom as he has enough on his plate running cm7 and now developing ICS, I think we should all be patient and wait for him to finish it completely as i don't want a half ass rom that isn't fully working and i'm sure arco won't want to release one either.
Who knows after we have a fully working ICS rom maybe then keiran can look through the coding to finish his rom.

Ironically, I only just seen this today, been fiddling with my new phone a bit to much.
I did initially ask Arco for help at first, he explained that getting everything working on a port would be almost impossible.
I could portray myself to be some great developer with a PHD in computer science, but I am not that at all, I am a fifteen year old with a grade B at GCSE level.
I respect that anyone could have done what I did, but I saw the touchscreen fix topic and because no one else was doing it for wildfire I decided that I would.
I thought for a brief moment I was a developer, but realised the truth when xda rejected my recognized developer request.
I realised that the people who found the touchscreen fix, the people who compiled the Rom for the Eris are the developers.
The only true "development" I have done is trying to fix the synaptic touchscreen driver for ICS.
I will probably loose interest in android when I get an iPhone 5 when it is released, but as I said, my efforts don't count for much.
I have my own forum to run, and development time is less and less.
The reason I don't have a donation link is because, I am not a developer.
By the way, the latest ICS Rom is like 99.99% work of schiznik, only my kernel with touchscreen fixes are the changes.
Sorry if I have been a nuisance, I didn't mean any harm.
Will leave stuff to devs in future.
Keiran
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I can think of many who are more of a nuisance than you've ever been or ever will be. You did great with your kernel and what you did with the ICS rom, damn we would still be waiting at Xmas for ICS if it was left to kassaus seens as he is so "busy" all the time.
You did great mate and I'm sure you'll have a great future developing too, just keep at it and good luck with the latest phone, I'm not too sure about the iPhone 5 though man, Yeh it'll be an astonishing phone but it's still an apple at the end of the day and probably won't be that much different from the 4s underneath.
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Our phone is not dead!!!!

*Please no one delete this thread! It is really important!*
Hi everyone!
I am here to tell you guys about our phone.
Yes, the title says everything; our phone is not dead!
What do you think? Just because Huawei is not supporting this phone anymore doesn't mean that our phone is dead!
Look! We have achieved great things with our knowledge! We have already have Android that wasn't given to us by Huawei:
- CM 7.2
- Aurora ICS
- MIUI
- Oxygen
- JokerROM
- and lots of others!
(Thanks to all those developers that have contributed their efforts for the sake of our phone!)
Huawei is not supporting us, but every person in our community is supporting each other.
I know we are lacking developers, but we still have great developers: DZO (he's a bit sleepy), forumber2, Blefish, MosTERRA, ezet, and anyone else I have missed!
We still have developers, but not once have I read anyone commenting anything positive about our phone. Not once anyone has told someone else that our phone is dying/dead. Always, everyone here has said our phone is finished.
Come on guys! Don't say this! Always try to say good things about our phone. By saying bad things about our phone, you are discouraging other people, and most importantly the Developers, from keeping the phone.
Please stop discouraging Developers and others! Instead, encourage others to gather knowledge and start building some ROMs!
Yes, I would encourage all of you here to start gathering knowledge about android and start building some MODs, Themes, ROMs, etc, for our phone!
NEVER AGAIN I WOULD WANT TO SEE A COMMENT THAT SAYS NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR PHONE!!!!

You're right and in general I agree with you but this sub-forum is only to post ROM's preferably tested and without bugs. You should move this to General section or ask to mods to do that. Blefish is working on CM 10 and we (non-developers) need to wait.
Cheers.

to say our phone is "dead" is not negative as i perceive it.. its just a plain fact..
in this fast-changing technology world, our phone already did its job very well..
my u8800 has just passed its 2-year mark, and though its just become my second-line support phone in this month, its still of great value to me..
(big compliment to our great developers!)
HOWEVER, the phones is already over 2 years old, and this is a very old age in technology world (and also considering its lack of official support)..
if everyone just refuses to proceed forward, we are probably still playing/flashing mods for our beloved transistor radio (if thats even possible)!
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with the above said, i do not mean to discourage any further development effort on this phone..
i actually welcome such activities very much honestly..
its just that ppl should also recognise those of us who try to move forward with newer and more powerful phones..

rqmok said:
*Please no one delete this thread! It is really important!*
Hi everyone!
I am here to tell you guys about our phone.
Yes, the title says everything; our phone is not dead!
What do you think? Just because Huawei is not supporting this phone anymore doesn't mean that our phone is dead!
Look! We have achieved great things with our knowledge! We have already have Android that wasn't given to us by Huawei:
- CM 7.2
- Aurora ICS
- MIUI
- Oxygen
- JokerROM
- and lots of others!
(Thanks to all those developers that have contributed their efforts for the sake of our phone!)
Huawei is not supporting us, but every person in our community is supporting each other.
I know we are lacking developers, but we still have great developers: DZO (he's a bit sleepy), forumber2, Blefish, MosTERRA ezet, possibly me, and anyone else I have missed!
We still have developers, but not once have I read anyone commenting anything positive about our phone. Not once anyone has told someone else that our phone is dying/dead. Always, everyone here has said our phone is finished.
Come on guys! Don't say this! Always try to say good things about our phone. By saying bad things about our phone, you are discouraging other people, and most importantly the Developers, from keeping the phone.
Please stop discouraging Developers and others! Instead, encourage others to gather knowledge and start building some ROMs!
Yes, I would encourage all of you here to start gathering knowledge about android and start building some MODs, Themes, ROMs, etc, for our phone!
NEVER AGAIN I WOULD WANT TO SEE A COMMENT THAT SAYS NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT OUR PHONE!!!!
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So why don't you make Jelly bean ?

iamelton said:
to say our phone is "dead" is not negative as i perceive it.. its just a plain fact..
in this fast-changing technology world, our phone already did its job very well..
my u8800 has just passed its 2-year mark, and though its just become my second-line support phone in this month, its still of great value to me..
(big compliment to our great developers!)
HOWEVER, the phones is already over 2 years old, and this is a very old age in technology world (and also considering its lack of official support)..
if everyone just refuses to proceed forward, we are probably still playing/flashing mods for our beloved transistor radio (if thats even possible)
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Our main problem is the just the lack of developers as I already said before, because saying our phones is old fashioned it ain't true, for an example the Huawei Ascend G300, imo that phone is not that far away from our phone in hardware and capability (and also it was release in May of 2012), but still it already has CM9, CM10, CM10.1, thats my point of view, we can't all have the same opinion. I just don't have the skill to do such things in the Android area, if I had I would work on this awesome device.

It's not dead, but it's been on life support for a very long time, now. Blefish is the only active, transparent developer this device has going for, and even he doesn't have public releases yet and encounters numerous issues. There is no real Jellybean for this device, regardless of the fact that the hardware is capable, and so for all intents and purposes it is dead, for the time being. But that could change.
Regardless, this is a terrible thread and if you want to help you shouldn't spam this forum. There are specific forums for this sort of inane garbage.

I think it's dead anymore since we can't go through jellybean. There are only 2 person as i know who have coding knowledge;dzo and blefish.Besides we haven't seen a working wifi for jellybean both of them;so this makes the phone dead,in my view.

i think the points are quite clear now.. in android world, a phone is "dead" if there is not much active development/support for the latest updates going around (either officially or from individuals)..
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OP, just did a search and found out that u ported a xperia style rom to our phone, so that makes u a developer of this phone.. thx for the work..
(though another GB rom does not interest me that much.. )

I'd like to point out that just because I haven't released a rom does not mean I am not working on it. Just hang on as there is awesome stuff coming up!
I know I am not the fastest developer around, but I always try to do things "properly". Of which I mean I try to provide good code that would be reusable in the future.
Sent from my U8800

Would just like to clarify something
No. Our phone will never be dead, as long as we have devs working on it.
I would also like to point out something:
Just because I ported Xperia Style GB ROM, doesn't mean I have become a developer. BUT at least I am trying to build JB for our device. Yes, I have downloaded the CM10 source and have started building it. Since this is the first ever ROM I will build, which is why I am getting help from Blefish (thanks a lot Blefish. I really appreciate your efforts).
I am trying my best to keep this project going, but I have my studies and other important things (won't mention because they are personal). It is my second last year in High School, so I don't get much time (i'm sorry).
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GATHER KNOWLEDGE AND START BUILDING FOR OUR DEVICE. WE NEED AS MUCH DEVELOPERS AS POSSIBLE WORKING ON THIS DEVICE!
I know gathering the knowledge is hard, but we have the Q&A section where you can ask something whenever you are stuck. Please step forward and start working!
Thanks for understanding.:good:

rqmok said:
No. Our phone will never be dead, as long as we have devs working on it.
I would also like to point out something:
Just because I ported Xperia Style GB ROM, doesn't mean I have become a developer. BUT at least I am trying to build JB for our device. Yes, I have downloaded the CM10 source and have started building it. Since this is the first ever ROM I will build, which is why I am getting help from Blefish (thanks a lot Blefish. I really appreciate your efforts).
I am trying my best to keep this project going, but I have my studies and other important things (won't mention because they are personal). It is my second last year in High School, so I don't get much time (i'm sorry).
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GATHER KNOWLEDGE AND START BUILDING FOR OUR DEVICE. WE NEED AS MUCH DEVELOPERS AS POSSIBLE WORKING ON THIS DEVICE!
I know gathering the knowledge is hard, but we have the Q&A section where you can ask something whenever you are stuck. Please step forward and start working!
Thanks for understanding.:good:
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HD2 is dead and it still has developers.
It's not developing, it's passed on. This phone is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late phone. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If we haven't bought it , it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-phone. Capisci?

rqmok said:
No. Our phone will never be dead, as long as we have devs working on it.
I would also like to point out something:
Just because I ported Xperia Style GB ROM, doesn't mean I have become a developer. BUT at least I am trying to build JB for our device. Yes, I have downloaded the CM10 source and have started building it. Since this is the first ever ROM I will build, which is why I am getting help from Blefish (thanks a lot Blefish. I really appreciate your efforts).
I am trying my best to keep this project going, but I have my studies and other important things (won't mention because they are personal). It is my second last year in High School, so I don't get much time (i'm sorry).
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GATHER KNOWLEDGE AND START BUILDING FOR OUR DEVICE. WE NEED AS MUCH DEVELOPERS AS POSSIBLE WORKING ON THIS DEVICE!
I know gathering the knowledge is hard, but we have the Q&A section where you can ask something whenever you are stuck. Please step forward and start working!
Thanks for understanding.:good:
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ok i take back my previous recognition of u as a developer.. now you are a developer-to-be for this great phone.. (honestly, no sarcasm attached.. )
and while i think u8800 is dead, u see it as a living pal.. no problem.. case closed.. (no sarcasm, again..)
now back to business.. i would very much be happy to see a jb rom created and surely would give it a try in my u8800..
i just hope u can keep this enthusiasm and keep working on this jb-rom-to-come..
honestly speaking, having enthusiasm on something and start working on it are not that difficult.. its the persistence and patience (in dealing with obstacles) that make the difference..
good luck and hope to hear from u soon.. :good:

Blefish said:
I'd like to point out that just because I haven't released a rom does not mean I am not working on it. Just hang on as there is awesome stuff coming up!
I know I am not the fastest developer around, but I always try to do things "properly". Of which I mean I try to provide good code that would be reusable in the future.
Sent from my U8800
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Hey,
I just don't understand something so i want to ask you. I am following you on twitter and see that it is really not easy making kernel 3.4. I just want to know, wouldn't it be easier if you just use the 3.0.8 kernel that we already have and maybe tweak it a bit? 3.0.8 should work with CM10. I just don't see the point of triing so hard to make the new kernel for CM10. Let's look in the future and if you release your rom in 2 months for now there will not be so many people that would find it usefull because many of U8800 users are already switching to new devices. And in may there is coming KLP.
Thanks for clarification! :good:

rastek said:
Hey,
I just don't understand something so i want to ask you. I am following you on twitter and see that it is really not easy making kernel 3.4. I just want to know, wouldn't it be easier if you just use the 3.0.8 kernel that we already have and maybe tweak it a bit? 3.0.8 should work with CM10. I just don't see the point of triing so hard to make the new kernel for CM10. Let's look in the future and if you release your rom in 2 months for now there will not be so many people that would find it usefull because many of U8800 users are already switching to new devices. And in may there is coming KLP.
Thanks for clarification! :good:
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I understand what you are trying to say to Blefish.
I'll tell you. May it be 3.0.8 or 3.1 kernel, the story is the same: no Bluetooth and no WiFi. The 3.0.8 will need to be made compatible with CM10, but making WiFi and Bluetooth work will still won't be easy. That's why it is better to work on 3.1 kernel when you know that both kernels have the same story.
I hope you understand.

My phone is not dead!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok i understand that wifi and bt do not work with 3.0.8 and cm10, but blefish said in one thread that it is just a matter of configuration and is not nearly as hard as making a new kernel. I think blefish could make it work with 3.0.8.
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alexmbra said:
My phone is not dead!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's the spirit!!
rastek said:
Ok i understand that wifi and bt do not work with 3.0.8 and cm10, but blefish said in one thread that it is just a matter of configuration and is not nearly as hard as making a new kernel. I think blefish could make it work with 3.0.8.
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Yes, it is a matter of configuration.
All we have right now are the drivers from Aurora and the drivers from official Huawei ROMs. To make CM10, the drivers need to be taken from an older ROM and put into CM10. Now, it is not just a matter of copy-pasting. Our current drivers are not compatible with JB. Blefish has made some things working. The biggest problem is the WiFi. The old WiFi drivers need to be made compatible with CM10, and this is the hardest part. This is why there has been no one, yet, who has been able to do this.
No matter what kernel it is, may it be 3.0.8 or 3.1, the WiFi drivers need to be made compatible with CM10.
I think oguzhan mobile was able to fix the WiFi to the extent where it actually turned on, but it wouldn't scan. I don't know why he stopped development. I am not sure what kernel oguzhan mobile was using, but I think it was 3.0.8. I think you might be right that it would be easier for our phone to use the 3.0.8 kernel, but I think the 3.1 kernel would run better with CM10.1.
If you really want to know why Blefish wouldn't use 3.0.8 kernel, then you would need to Blefish himself. I have already said what I think, but I am not sure if I am right.
I am going to give it a try with 3.0.8 kernel. It might be easier than 3.1 kernel. I'll just have to find out

I like the way you talk....
Waiting for JB...
Sent from my U8800 using Tapatalk 2

Just follow @rtammekivi on Twitter if you want to know what's going on.

Phone is dead

Who Supports A New Kernel Multiboot!!

Hello Friends From XDA!
The Intension Of This Post,
is collecting signatures (or orders) to know how many users want to have a multiboot kernel (GB / ICS / JB)
as the current and (Turbo Kernel 3.1) but more stable and with better performance ..
Users who want to, and they would like a kernel so ..
please do so knowing in this post ..
if possible then we'll ask the developers,
to see if any are encouraged, or have time to continue with the development of (turbo kernel 3.1)
which still has some bugs and lacks optmizar a little more for performance ..
PS: I think we can have (GB / ICS / JB) installed simultaneously is one of the most brilliant things we've had for our device, not it???

Really, do you think that the multiboot thing that is not developed for months will be restarted only because you do a poll and ask to someone else to do the work?
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No one will do what you want, if you want to get this problems fixed, just learn C and kernel programming and do it for yourself, don't forget that people have a real life...

Wow this thread didnt go as the op intended lol but people need to be realistic. Im sure evryone would like to see a kernel like this. Anyways my play seems to have finally died (i think its the flex cable) so until im back in the usa i cant fix it and by then i might just not bother

@gangstermartorell & @[email protected] , I think you have no right to make that kind of comment, if someone does not like the idea, or do not sign the petition and ready .. the only ones who have the right to complain if the developers do not like the idea .. or sorry! you are developers?? no ... lol.
ah! and @ abdel12345, thanks for your comment. and sorry about your Xplay .. : (.. I just came a few days you thinking of buying a flex, to have spare just in case, and now with this that happened to you .. and I am convinced ..
I keep my Xplay much longer .. and now I see PPSSPP progress, and future NDS emulator (DRASTIC) even better ..

And do you have any right to demanding such thing to people? I think that these threads have to be deleted because are extremely contained with SPAM.

gangstermartorell said:
And do you have any right to demanding such thing to people? I think that these threads have to be deleted because are extremely contained with SPAM.
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I think you did not understand the intention of the post .. the intention of the post.'s collecting signatures to see if people would like a kernel multiboot .. and then if people support the idea.
Please ask the developers .. and if you do not want any problems .. no .. this all more than good. no intension to demand anything from anyone .. is more, the developer (DiKeJ) .. very kindly said he'd be happy, (when I have free time) to support this idea .. and what's more, they also help to several developers would ask as (extremetempz & Wegdess)

Wedgess already said that he will not work to the multiboot things months ago cause this is the work of cosmicDan, so it is also a form of respect for him.
Extremetempz, really I will not start any flame, but looking his thread (not haved time to look his github, maybe I am wrong) seems to me more a user that recompile sources and add some overclock than a kernel developer, so I don't think that he can/will pick up this work.
Sorry if I say something that you don't like, but what we are saying sadly is the reality, our board haven't a lot of skilled developers, we have only some ports from the mogami board, so don't expect so much
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We don't need a multiboot kernel, we just need a 3.x.x kernel, which would allow us to have a working and smooth android 4.3 on our xperia plays