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I'm thinking of using another ROM
but first I want to know ur opinions about the one you're using or u think is the best, which one is the unbugiest & fastest one for xoom (wifi only)?
& what really makes the difference in xoom ROMs, cause I didn't see any difference in screen shots, like how u see a big difference between Cyanogen & stock one (in android phones)
mehras1991 said:
I'm thinking of using another ROM
but first I want to know ur opinions about the one you're using or u think is the best, which one is the unbugiest & fastest one for xoom (wifi only)?
& what really makes the difference in xoom ROMs, cause I didn't see any difference in screen shots, like how u see a big difference between Cyanogen & stock one (in android phones)
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There is really only one custom ROM for the Xoom, made by Team Tiamat, and one variation on that one.
Save for some specific tweaks and added features like overclocking, there is not a massive difference from the stock ROM since the HC source code has not and will not be released.
Therefore it is a little early to start the typical "I have no freaking idea what I am doing, please tell me what I should do and how I should feel so I don't need to think too much" posts, isn't it?
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There is really only one custom ROM for the Xoom, made by Team Tiamat, and one variation on that one.
Save for some specific tweaks and added features like overclocking, there is not a massive difference from the stock ROM since the HC source code has not and will not be released.
Therefore it is a little early to start the typical "I have no freaking idea what I am doing, please tell me what I should do and how I should feel so I don't need to think too much" posts, isn't it?
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That was a good answer, but the last part was a tiny bit harsh, no?
Honestly... the post above hit the nail on the head. Tiamat is the only core ROM for the Xoom as of current because no other teams will want to create a ROM that you cannot do too much with since the Honeycomb source is not out, as the post above said, and it won't be released. Wait for Ice cream sandwich. That's when they will be ready to release the new source. So, ICS should be rooted and custom ROM heaven!
okantomi said:
That was a good answer, but the last part was a tiny bit harsh, no?
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Perhaps, but if you look at other XDA forums such as the SGS forum, there are dozens of these posts a day. People who can't be bothered to read threads and do research but just keep asking what people think is the best, as if that has any real value.
Then when someone answers them, they will ask them to tell them how to flash the selected ROM, still seeing no need to educate themselves.
Next will be the frantic "I bricked my device...help me!" post.
A few days after someone walks them through getting back to stock, they will just post another "Which ROM is best" post.
It becomes an unending cycle. Sure I am probably being unfair to the OP to make a point, but they are being unfair to themselves by not doing their own investigation.
diablo2224 said:
Honestly... the post above hit the nail on the head. Tiamat is the only core ROM for the Xoom as of current because no other teams will want to create a ROM that you cannot do too much with since the Honeycomb source is not out, as the post above said, and it won't be released. Wait for Ice cream sandwich. That's when they will be ready to release the new source. So, ICS should be rooted and custom ROM heaven!
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And to give all due props to Team Tiamat, most of the people with the skills to make a ROM for the Xoom are already part of that team...and they have done about the best anyone could do with without sources.
Even if there are other Devs out there familiar with the Xoom, I doubt any other team will make a ROM since what is there for them to do that isn't already in the Tiamat ROM?
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And to give all due props to Team Tiamat, most of the people with the skills to make a ROM for the Xoom are already part of that team...and they have done about the best anyone could do with without sources.
Even if there are other Devs out there familiar with the Xoom, I doubt any other team will make a ROM since what is there for them to do that isn't already in the Tiamat ROM?
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My point exactly! What more would the devs be able to do or add without the source other than some themes?
Great point about all the best devs being on Team Tiamat. They are working together to make an awesome ROM!
rschenck said:
Perhaps, but if you look at other XDA forums such as the SGS forum, there are dozens of these posts a day. People who can't be bothered to read threads and do research but just keep asking what people think is the best, as if that has any real value.
Then when someone answers them, they will ask them to tell them how to flash the selected ROM, still seeing no need to educate themselves.
Next will be the frantic "I bricked my device...help me!" post.
A few days after someone walks them through getting back to stock, they will just post another "Which ROM is best" post.
It becomes an unending cycle. Sure I am probably being unfair to the OP to make a point, but they are being unfair to themselves by not doing their own investigation.
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You are always so helpful, I'm sorry that you are feeling a bit burnt on all the help you've been giving. I know that I feel a bit frustrated when people clearly don't research before they leap, but I thought the OP was just looking for some opinions.
Anyway, your replies and diablo2224's pretty much wrapped up that topic!
rschenck said:
Perhaps, but if you look at other XDA forums such as the SGS forum, there are dozens of these posts a day. People who can't be bothered to read threads and do research but just keep asking what people think is the best, as if that has any real value.
Then when someone answers them, they will ask them to tell them how to flash the selected ROM, still seeing no need to educate themselves.
Next will be the frantic "I bricked my device...help me!" post.
A few days after someone walks them through getting back to stock, they will just post another "Which ROM is best" post.
It becomes an unending cycle. Sure I am probably being unfair to the OP to make a point, but they are being unfair to themselves by not doing their own investigation.
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funny, but true answer, that's kind of what happened to me in the past month, but I finally broke the circle rules in the pas 3days, so now I'm on my own
diablo2224 said:
My point exactly! What more would the devs be able to do or add without the source other than some themes?
Great point about all the best devs being on Team Tiamat. They are working together to make an awesome ROM!
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without source code,
so all those tablet optimized apps are made by devs by playing with the right resolution & graphic effects for the screen!!?
& since xoom & the others have (almost) the same screen size, it won't be so difficult for developers
anyway, what's wrong with google!!
I just read on wiki that they'll release the source code with ice "cream sandwich" source code, & that's because "cream sandwich" will become an android version both for phones & tablets....
don't u think it's waste of time with doing that? I'm imagining a very boring future for android, think of it, u'll see the same version on all the android smartphones & tablets!!!
seriously, what a boring choice for google
mehras1991 said:
without source code,
so all those tablet optimized apps are made by devs by playing with the right resolution & graphic effects for the screen!!?
& since xoom & the others have (almost) the same screen size, it won't be so difficult for developers
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Umm... ok?
That my friend is for developing apps. Maybe you don't know anything about root or custom Roms? It doesn't work the same way when it comes to developing a custom Rom with special features such as system tweaks. Without the source, the Rom will not see things such as... every single tweak in CyanogenMod! No interface tweaks, multimedia tweaks, no tweaks of any kind! Check out CyanogenMod settings... there are a boat load of tweaks for everything you can think of. As of right now, nothing like that can happen with our Honeycomb tablets without the Honeycomb source code.
Without the source, you have a slighty modified stock Rom experience that can be themed pretty easily...
diablo2224 said:
Umm... ok?
That my friend is for developing apps. Maybe you don't know anything about root or custom Roms? It doesn't work the same way when it comes to developing a custom Rom with special features such as system tweaks. Without the source, the Rom will not see things such as... every single tweak in CyanogenMod! No interface tweaks, multimedia tweaks, no tweaks of any kind! Check out CyanogenMod settings... there are a boat load of tweaks for everything you can think of. As of right now, nothing like that can happen with our Honeycomb tablets without the Honeycomb source code.
Without the source, you have a slighty modified stock Rom experience that can be themed pretty easily...
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useful info,
thnx
so, do you think we'll have chance to see & try some cool stuffs when "ice cream sandwich" being released!?!?!? orrrr our xoom will be old for that time & we'll have to think of buying something new???
mehras1991 said:
useful info,
thnx
so, do you think we'll have chance to see & try some cool stuffs when "ice cream sandwich" being released!?!?!? orrrr our xoom will be old for that time & we'll have to think of buying something new???
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ICS will be ROM heaven for both root users and devs alike, no doubt about that. No one knows if it will make its way onto our current Xoom's though. Keeping in mind that at Google IO this year, they said something about a time frame for all new Android devices that will keep the selected devices up to date with the most current OS updates and releases. If that's the case, the Xoom was the first Honeycomb tablet/dev tablet... so one would think that the Xoom would be getting the ICS update according the what they said at IO. Again, no one really knows yet as it is still much too early for ICS to officially launch. We'll see if the OG Xoom gets it or else they will end up launching the Xoom 2 as the first ICS device no doubt, because by that time the Xoom will be nearing it's one year mark, meaning... time for a remodel!
Please someone really start porting ICS on galaxy s2. Too many fake port and fake people that say "i am start porting ics..".. but nothing.
I would develop a real porting with expert people that know very well android and develop android rom for galaxy s2.
I also need someone that know assembler or low level code, for the galaxy s2 driver in ICS.
Useless thread.. Can someone close this?
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please someone really start banning people for making yet more pointless bloody threads
you want ics on your phone? either be quiet and wait or port it yourself.
Take a wafer, put a dollop of ice cream on it then place phone onto the ice cream and finish off with another wafer, Voila!! ICS on your phone.
The reason there is no ICS threads is because its not ready yet, the time it took to write your thread a search just aslong would of given you the same result and you wouldn't have had sarcy comments like above
Ricey
Just to make sure you understand, Google haven't released source code for ICS and don't intend to until after devices running it are on sale. The SDK for creating apps for ICS is out, but that is little help for creating a fully functional ROM.
I think this is the closest port of ICS on Galaxy S II so far...
http://bit.ly/mzaHkg
zeitgeb3r said:
I think this is the closest port of ICS on Galaxy S II so far...
http://bit.ly/mzaHkg
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Nope, there is a much better one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565611
First of all this is a pointless thread, the best way to follow the progress of ICS for SGS2 is on http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/.
They are working on CyanogenMod 9 (ICS) and all that is left is to fix the mic during calls, expect it to be done during the next few weeks.
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First of all this is a pointless thread
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so why bump it after 4 weeks lol
You felt the need to bump a month old thread to let everyone know that the thread was pointless?
Net.silb said:
First of all this is a pointless thread, the best way to follow the progress of ICS for SGS2 is on http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/.
They are working on CyanogenMod 9 (ICS) and all that is left is to fix the mic during calls, expect it to be done during the next few weeks.
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You are really are stupid excuse my language....Yes there is the wordpress site from codeworkx but there is already a thread up in general with all the info already from the site you have provided...if you actually took the time to read what you just linked here everything is on the sticky and more...so just wait for the bloody thing to be released and Stylez or Conan delete this pointless thread
Hmm what is this... ANY topics created about ICS gets closed because of Matriak...??
If anyone else wants to try and port ICS then let them try??
Since when where you the boss of SGS2 forums?
Yes i have followed the progress and yes i know your role in the porting project, but acting like you control everything about ICS and SGS2, then why do we have a community here?
The way i see it right now: There is 1 sticky topic regarding SOME developers progress, the rest of us are banned from trying to port it, or in this case, speaking of it, because these guys are doing A port too.
If we do make a topic, you demand it closed and refers to the sticky topic.
NOTE: I'm not talking about just this topic alone.
Just my thoughts.
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I know ICS aint released yet, but still its getting really cold inhere
Please go work for google, and bring us Android Jelly Bean!!
Stop making threads about Ice Cream Sandwich, Yes we are all desperately waiting for the port, but we must not , and i repeat MUST NOT be a pain in the ass to the developers actually doing the PORT!
So SGS+ won the ICS -poll on facebook. And DroidXDA promised to port ICS for our device. I am so glad there's finally some progress. I'll post the news here so don't be afraid to subscribe this thread
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didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
sudec123 said:
didm't find it on the blog, but anyway. I hope this really will be ported.
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Its not on the blog... its on their Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/DroidXDA)
Really looking forward to the port...
IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
-dedlxe
gonna build a kernel to test ICS for myself to see how it handles what is different beside CPU?
rayiskon said:
IMO no need to open 100 threads about the same subject, and definitely not with such promising/euphoric titles. zack is still working on it and either he or FaqihCici will surely open a dev thread as soon an initial version release is available.
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So let me put this straight. We don't even have a dedicated subforum and now you are denying us even a single topic (which will be lost anyway) ?
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Looking forward on this. Hopefully it will be stable.
Any news ?
I dont think here will come anything useable...
Still, if it would work would be best
I feel like they just want to generate clicks on their ads.
Everyday I am reading preannouncemen. Mh, I clicked so often on those ads really thought they would try to make something happen.
value pack released
There is nothing much exciting. Samsung released a value pack for i9001. Installation instruction can be found in this very own forum.
Same crapWiz UI and additional face detection added.
My gt540 has ics since it was released we talking about 600mhz armv6 and 256mb ram.Atrix was last years Flagship imo!
We were waiting for drivers ...drivers realeased.
Waiting for moto ->canceled.
Just lazy developers and nothing more
mixlis said:
My gt540 has ics since it was released we talking about 600mhz armv6 and 256mb ram.Atrix was last years Flagship imo!
We were waiting for drivers ...drivers realeased.
Waiting for moto ->canceled.
Just lazy developers and nothing more
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What is the point in this thread? Why slate dev's they do all of this wonderful stuff for free and they have no reason to upload their creations other than because they are awesome people and they share it with us. SO DON'T EVER CALL DEVS LAZY AGAIN!!!
Anyway as far as I know the drivers are not supported by a 2.6 linux kernel. Dev's would have to make an entirely new 3.x kernel to make the drivers work. I'm not a dev but I'm certain it's a massive ball ache to do.
Reported
Reported this useless thread.
This has to be a bait thread. There's no way you're actually that stupid and arrogant.
Thread isn't here for constructive or relevant conversation. Closed.
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Wrong section you should post in the question/answers section.
Anyway to answer your question Qualcomm is pretty much open with their processors and I don't believe there would be any problems building kernels and porting roms.
This is going to be locked / moved.
Nexus devices get CM10 very fast as you only need too add Cyanogenmod source merges and compile it to the Nexus 4 AOSP source and its good to go.
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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It could of gone in either but I think it best suits the q&a section because you are specifically asking a question and you want an answer in return.
Wrong section, ib4tl
Edit: Also, just to put in something useful, this phone WILL be improved, if there are ANY software issues. This is the phone that will have the most dev support in years, with it's low price. In addition, CM isn't "ported", per say, it is built from source.
anirudh412 said:
'In retrospect, I think this belongs to the general section! Derp! Can someone move it there?'
This was going to be my next post :angel:
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I asked a mod to move it.
anirudh412 said:
Having owned the International GS3 i9300 and expecting so much from a phone with such powerful and capable hardware, it was a shame to see all the major devs abandoning it because of crapsung's stubbornness with giving out Exynos and other hardware sources. Since its safe to say almost everyone buys the Nexus for dev support, it would be good to see some devs voicing their opinion about how easy it would be to, say port CM10 (or 10.1) to it. How 'open' is the hardware on the Nexus 4? With all the recent 'less than stellar' reviews about the phone (I already know the reviewers had pre-release firmwares), it would be good to know if custom kernels and such can bring out the full potential of the beast that is S4 Pro.
I am a complete n00b, so apologies if this is inappropriate in any way.
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Since its a nexus device, the source tree is already in aosp so custom ROMs like cm10, aokp, etc will appear almost instantly. No need to do any major hacks get stuff fully working like other phones.. Same with kernels, the source will be available immediately, so there's no waiting for the new kernel sources (*COUGH COUGH * HTC)
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I think molesarecoming is planning to bring ParanoidAndroid over to the Nexus 4