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Some new Galaxy variants

First, a Galaxy with a keyboard: the new Sprint Epic 4G
Second, a Galaxy media player: the Galaxy S PMP
And last but not least, not really "hot of the press": the Galaxy Tab
I think that Samsung is following a very interesting marketing strategy here. Instead of developing a new kind of device for each type of usage, they create variants of one type. Maybe this is the only answer to the iPhone/iPod/iPad ...

holy crap that is huge! for a phone, but too small for a tablet
the other 2 we knew about already

It's just right for a tablet, the iPad is too big.

Croak said:
It's just right for a tablet, the iPad is too big.
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Ah, cool. Finaly a phone-like tablet that can be actualy be used as a computer (no, Ipad has nothing to do with what a tablet should do).Wonder if it's SAMOLED.

Now there is a dual band (CDMA/GSM) version coming out in China. Lucky bastards.
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/08/16/samsung-i909-galaxy-s-gsmcdma-android-smartphone-shows-up/
The Galaxy S line up is truly a global and platform independent product portfolio.
50% of Samsung's smartphone line up will consist of Android based devices the rest will be segregated to Win Mobile 7 and Bada.

[Q] Noob question: difference between 10.1 & 10.1v?

Hi all! as the subject says I'd like to know if there's any difference between the GT 10.1 and 10.1v? How many different models exist (10" from Samsung) ? AFAIK there's only one that's going to be released in the next days, but I may be wrong.
TIA!

Have you searched from the internet?
Not to be rude, but there are loads of information there.
Please do, and come back if you want something more specific.
The 10.1v is the "old" model, sold by Vodafone in Europe also Australia.

Hi
I have one 10.1v I bought a few days ago.from Vodafone, mine its not locked no Vodafone.
I believe from what I gave read that the 10.1v is a build from Samsung with some requirements from Vodafone....from the 10.1v runs stock honeycomb while I believe the 10.1 will run the Samsung touch wiz or something like that.
The 10.1v also doesn't have SD card, at least mine doesn't.....
For now that's what I know
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gogol said:
Have you searched from the internet?
Not to be rude, but there are loads of information there.
Please do, and come back if you want something more specific.
The 10.1v is the "old" model, sold by Vodafone in Europe also Australia.
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OK thanks! I'll try to find some more info googling... (like: are there HW differences between them?)

I know one of the biggest differences is that the 10v is thick like the xoom and the 10.1 is thinner than the ipad2
Uplinked through my mind

Though one sacrifice the newer 10.1 had to make seems to be with the camera. The back camera is only 3.0MP, while the older 10.1V has an 8MP camera.
Also not sure if the 10.1V is using a PLS display like the newer 10.1 is.
Both have Tegra 2 processors with 1GB RAM.

Mine has 8.6mm how much is the new one?
Thanks
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According to Samsung, the new model has exactly the same thickness as yours, check: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab

Ravynmagi said:
Both have Tegra 2 processors with 1GB RAM.
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So YOU say! ;-) or do you have an actual source to back this claim up?

galtom said:
So YOU say! ;-) or do you have an actual source to back this claim up?
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Nvidia CEO is praising the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Many Galaxy Tab 10.1 Google IO edition owners shown Quadrant shots showing Tegra 2 inside.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt it's Tegra 2. I thought this was put to rest a long time ago.

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Nvidia CEO is praising the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Many Galaxy Tab 10.1 Google IO edition owners shown Quadrant shots showing Tegra 2 inside.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt it's Tegra 2. I thought this was put to rest a long time ago.
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yes, but galtom has been holding hope for exynos longer than anyone in the world. also, the engadget post on 7310gt rekindles my hope too.
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The way I see it (I know it is unlikely but... it gives me hope ) is that White GT 10.1 is wi-fi only.
Because Samsung has to compete with Apple and will want to be seen as cheaper this model will not feature Exynos, no sd card support or any other extras but nice price tag.
Black GT 10.1 will be a 3G and as such is competing in a bit different price class where price itself is secondary to extras and features. So even if pad with them will be a bit more expensive than iPad2 it is not that important. In mind of general public it will be settled that GT 10.1 is cheaper, thinner and lighter... once you want more from your device you pay extra but you get a lot more than from competitive product.
Another reasons for me to have hope are....
1. Why would you spend thousands of $ to develop a chip if you will only use it in some of you phones? It would be OK if Exynos was bad, but it is not... so first you pay to make it and than you buy from Nvidia??? Where is logic in this?
2. Since Samsung know already for a while about how good Exynos is I would think that with every passing day they will want to volume needed/produced to grow/improve. Wouldn't you?
3. It seems to me that it would be smarter for Samsung to use as little Tegra chips as necessary. Would you want to give money to your competitor instead of improving you EXISTING design and production unit. For me that looks like acting against myself?
4. It is steel a while before we will see 3G model, look at my point no 2.
5. If all units do come with Tegra 2 inside why so much secrecy in the subject? Isn't it not similar as to Galaxy S II story?
5. If not Exynos than - it still might be a divix certified device - questions is... will "add on" to tegra design from Samsung help with mkv and in general High Profile playback?
6. It seems to me that it would be funny if flagship computer tablet would be less capable than a phone or in some ways even as the tablet of previous generation. This would mean that if you would add a docking station to Galaxy S II in form of the 10.1 screen it would be the best tablet on the market ;-) (sort of recent ASUS idea).
If any one has a sensible explanation to points above... please share.

galtom said:
1. Why would you spend thousands of $ to develop a chip if you will only use it in some of you phones? It would be OK if Exynos was bad, but it is not... so first you pay to make it and than you buy from Nvidia??? Where is logic in this?
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This covers all 3 of your first points in fact;
Samsung's internal business structure is not as monolithic or homogenous as you might expect. The mobile division does not just walk down the corridor to the semi-conductor business and say "hey we're building a new device, we want your best SoC for it.", from what I hear (and according to Engadget or ThisIsMyNext, can't remember which one) Samsung makes its own business units (and there are a LOT of business units) compete with external bidders for inclusion in their hardware / project (I hear LG operate in a similiar fashion as well). So it's not a given that Samsung will go with their own gear, just because it is in the family.
Also, considering the Galaxy S2 will be using both Exynos and Tegra 2 hints at difficulties producing enough Exynos units to fulfil the expected demand for the Galaxy S2. This makes me believe there will be no supply to use in the 10.1
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_galaxy_s2#Launch
I honestly believe that Samsung will put priority for Exynos to be made available to the Galaxy S2. I'm sure Samsung would love to deploy the Exynos to as many devices as possible, but they may not be able to meet demand.
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5. If all units do come with Tegra 2 inside why so much secrecy in the subject? Isn't it not similar as to Galaxy S II story?
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You cannot take silence & secrecy to mean that they are being silent because they want to surprise everyone with something amazing like this being the first non Tegra 2 Honeycomb tablet.
It would be amazing for Samsung (or anyone for that matter) to release a tablet with an SoC better than Tegra 2, but I doubt that will happen with the 10.1. Of course, no one knows for sure and Samsung might be able to pull it together for the 10.1 3G launch, but I'd be more pessimistic than optimistic at this stage.
Hope you don't get too disappointed if it doesn't work out

I am already as much disappointed as it is possible.
And there is a tablet with better soc out there (ipad2) but because of stupid iOS all this potential is lost :-(
I was in app store yesterday to have a look at it...I would not hesitate and buy it but iOS and iTunes (itunes everywhere, for everything do put me of). + I do have a NAS drive ith over 800Gb of tv shows and movies that I do want to watch.
So both tegra 2 and iPad are no go :-(

Yes discounting the iPad 2 of course - I did mean a Honeycomb tablet
I also remembered that Samsung will be using the new Qualcomm Dual Core Snapdragon in their 4.5" "Hercules":
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/17/exclusive-samsung-hercules-t-mobile-dual-core-infuse-4g/
This seems to further strengthen the claims of Samsung's cut-throat internal business unit policies and also the Exynos supply limitations. Maybe.

limaunion said:
How many different models exist (10" from Samsung)?
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As far as I know, there's 3 major versions of the 10.1" from Samsung.
1. Galaxy Tab 10.1V (this is the original 10.1 tab announced at MWC).
2. Galaxy Tab 10.1 (this is the revised design of the 10.1 tab announced at CTIA).
3. Galaxy Tab 10.1 IO (this is the limited edition Tab 10.1 given to attendees at Google I/O 2011, very slightly different spec to the normal Tab 10.1).
The variants of each type as far as I know is as follows:
The 10.1V comes in 2 variants:
1. 16GB or 32GB built-in storage (WiFi+3G)
The 10.1 IO comes in a single variant:
1. 32GB built-in storage (WiFi only)
The 10.1 comes in a variety of specs
1. 16GB, 32GB or 64GB built-in storage
2. WiFi only or WiFi+3G
3. Black or white
(Although, every combination of spec may not be possible e.g. I vaguely recall the 64GB model was not available for the WiFi only versions).
I've collated this info from various posts I've read so happy to be corrected if I've got anything wrong.

only correction here is the IO comes in Wifi only but Google gave you a 4G Mifi unit to go with it
Techno79 said:
As far as I know, there's 3 major versions of the 10.1" from Samsung.
1. Galaxy Tab 10.1V (this is the original 10.1 tab announced at MWC).
2. Galaxy Tab 10.1 (this is the revised design of the 10.1 tab announced at CTIA).
3. Galaxy Tab 10.1 IO (this is the limited edition Tab 10.1 given to attendees at Google I/O 2011, very slightly different spec to the normal Tab 10.1).
The variants of each type as far as I know is as follows:
The 10.1V comes in 2 variants:
1. 16GB or 32GB built-in storage (WiFi+3G)
The 10.1 IO comes in a single variant:
1. 32GB built-in storage (WiFi+3G)
The 10.1 comes in a variety of specs
1. 16GB, 32GB or 64GB built-in storage
2. WiFi only or WiFi+3G
3. Black or white
(Although, every combination of spec may not be possible e.g. I vaguely recall the 64GB model was not available for the WiFi only versions).
I've collated this info from various posts I've read so happy to be corrected if I've got anything wrong.
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animatechnica said:
only correction here is the IO comes in Wifi only but Google gave you a 4G Mifi unit to go with it
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Right, but that's only 90 days of service and has nothing to do with the tablet

the biggest difference is that 10.1v comes with only 512MB of RAM
I have 16GB, from Australia.

Differentiation between the three Galaxy Tabs

We now have three different Galaxy Tabs.
The 10.1 Galaxy Tab is being referred to as simply the "Galaxy Tab," which is what the 7" Galaxy Tab has been referred to since the beginning. The 8.9" is coming out. How can we simply, and in a unified way, create an acronym, or other delimiter, to express the three sizes and encourage the usage outside of XDA for everyone to describe the three different tablets? It was a mistake on Samsung for not making them more unique.
Do we refer to them as GT7, GT8, and GT10?
Thoughts?

conchchowder said:
Do we refer to them as GT7, GT8, and GT10?
Thoughts?
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...erm, yeah.

I'd say:
GT
GT8
GT10 (or 10.1)
Also don't see what this has to do with our Tab though
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GANJDROID said:
I'd say:
GT
GT8
GT10 (or 10.1)
Also don't see what this has to do with our Tab though
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Sorry if you don't see.

We are the galaxy tab! Everything else is something else!

Actually there are 4 different Tabs. 7 inch Wifi Tab is nothing like the GSM/CDMA Tab. All it shares is a name and screen size. Inside it is completely different hardware (TI OMAP instead of Samsung Hummingbird SoC). So you cannot use ROMs, kernels, even most libraries from one on another.
8.9 and 10 inch Tabs have much more in common since both are based on Tegra2.
I think it could be prudent to add separate subforums or thread tag requirements for different Tabs, especially in dev section so people don't flash wrong stuff.

Technomancer said:
Actually there are 4 different Tabs. 7 inch Wifi Tab is nothing like the GSM/CDMA Tab. All it shares is a name and screen size. Inside it is completely different hardware (TI OMAP instead of Samsung Hummingbird SoC). So you cannot use ROMs, kernels, even most libraries from one on another.
8.9 and 10 inch Tabs have much more in common since both are based on Tegra2.
I think it could be prudent to add separate subforums or thread tag requirements for different Tabs, especially in dev section so people don't flash wrong stuff.
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Yes. Sorry for forgetting that...this even furthers the need for differentiation, somehow,

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Sorry if you don't see.
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Could you enlighten me then?
I don't understand what relevance this has to our forum as its specifically for the 7"
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GANJDROID said:
Could you enlighten me then?
I don't understand what relevance this has to our forum as its specifically for the 7"
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I'm looking at the bigger picture and how the 7 versions fit in

Aye, worth having this discussion. People with the newer tabs will probably be ending up here by default.
So...
GT7
GT7(tmo/att/whatever local telco is)
GT7wifi
GT8
GT10v (GT10fat?)
GT10
And F/G/H for Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb (+ version)
So I'd be;
GT7TmoG2.3
As a rough shorthand.

Not to mention the fact that even amongst the 3G enable Tabs, there's differences. The CDMA Tab is a different animal than the GSM Tab.

GT7Tmo?
or
GT7GSM?

Oh my god... where did we end up if GT7gsmG2.3 is a "short" description... but seems to me as a needed thing as well as it will save devs from to many questions from users/noobs that bricked their GT with wrong Firmwares...
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What's wrong with Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 8.9 and Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Of course these are not bad at all:
GT7, GT8 and GT10

How about the model number, seeing how each country also had their own versions.
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Jyveafk said:
Aye, worth having this discussion. People with the newer tabs will probably be ending up here by default.
So...
GT7
GT7(tmo/att/whatever local telco is)
GT7wifi
GT8
GT10v (GT10fat?)
GT10
And F/G/H for Froyo/Gingerbread/Honeycomb (+ version)
So I'd be;
GT7TmoG2.3
As a rough shorthand.
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rofl, seriously!?
So i have a GT7telGCM7

natious said:
rofl, seriously!?
So i have a GT7telGCM7
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GT7GSMGBCM7 here
I genuinely don't get why GT, GT8 and GT10 isn't enough. If you want specifics tthen list them. All these abbreviations will just confuse people.
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My fellow korean dweller has got a point. You yanks dont get SGS dmb satelite and terristial tv chips in you models do you? Your custom roms break my viewing pleasure so all 8 inch tabs are not apples for apples. There is another three carrier korean models, wifi, umts, wibro 10.1 etc? I'm using a 2.5g EVDO edition of the tab. There are going to be custom orders for samsung junk so let's just refer to it by the proper model # its not pretty but puts the whole world user base and the manufacturer using the same convention. That's just the hardware. GT(M180L) if 삼성의 initials are too much to swallow as well.
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Yeah, they really confused people with these names.. They should name them differently, uniquely.. I was really confused at first, actually still are xD
GT7, GT8, and GT10 bit better lol

hojuruku said:
My fellow korean dweller has got a point. You yanks dont get SGS dmb satelite and terristial tv chips in you models do you? Your custom roms break my viewing pleasure so all 8 inch tabs are not apples for apples. There is another three carrier korean models, wifi, umts, wibro 10.1 etc? I'm using a 2.5g EVDO edition of the tab. There are going to be custom orders for samsung junk so let's just refer to it by the proper model # its not pretty but puts the whole world user base and the manufacturer using the same convention. That's just the hardware. GT(M180L) if 삼성의 initials are too much to swallow as well.
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+1 This actually makes the most sense... not going to say if its good enough for Sammy, its good ..... cause obviously HoneyComb isn't grrrrrrr!!!!

[Q] galaxy tab 10.1 or ipad 3 ??

hello every body,i would like to buy a tablet,i'm confused, wich one should buy the galaxy tab or the ipad 3?
please helpe.............sorry for my english

yahya2110 said:
hello every body,i would like to buy a tablet,i'm confused, wich one should buy the galaxy tab or the ipad 3?
please helpe.............sorry for my english
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Go fore galaxy note 10.1
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yahya2110 said:
hello every body,i would like to buy a tablet,i'm confused, wich one should buy the galaxy tab or the ipad 3?
please helpe.............sorry for my english
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it depends, if you like to customize your tab along with using all its feature go for galaxy tab note. if you want to use what the device offers then go for ipad 3

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Go fore galaxy note 10.1
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thanks bro, do you mean galaxy tab or galaxy not?...i wold lik a 10.1 tablet

Get Asus tablet. They are getting more updates.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 is the latest Samsung device, much better than the Galaxy Tab 10.1
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yahya2110 said:
hello every body,i would like to buy a tablet,i'm confused, wich one should buy the galaxy tab or the ipad 3?
please helpe.............sorry for my english
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Neither one of them.
About the iPad, I don't even want to talk about it or any other iBullshett from Crapple. If you are one of the Apple fanboys, by all means please buy it and get out of here.
And now the Galaxy Tab. I have one and I wouldn't recommend anyone else to buy it. Talk about specs, Galaxy Tab isn't the best tablet out there, in fact it only has a dual-core 1 GHz processor, 1 GB RAM and very poor screen resolution which lead to poor performances and speed.
But all that still doesn't annoy me as much as Samsung's lack of proper support for 3rd party development. ICS has been release to the public almost a year ago and here we are still desperately waiting. Sure you can flash some custom ROMs to have a taste of it, but thing is, none of those ROMs has a fully functional camera due to the lack of the required driver which Samsung doesn't want to release. The same thing is happening to the Galaxy S3 now, it might take years before S3 users can get the Project Butter (which has already been launched) to their phone. But this is kinda offtopic so I don't want to talk much about it. All I want to say is: due to Samsung's crappy support, stay away from its products.
What I'd recommend you for now is Google's Nexus 7. It's Google's very own tablet so you can be sure that you'll always be up to date.

I'll advice you to go with ipad 3.
I've my tab and my friend has ipad.
Comparing both.... Ipad is way better than 10.1
Incase you want android, go for nexus 7,note 10.1, or Asus infinity pad
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i have a galaxy note 10.1 and i am able to work wonders with the device. has this new feature that u can milti task which i expect everyone knows. i am loving the device
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thanks my friends

I don't know what some of these guys are talking about but my tab 10.1 works great for me, even being almost 2 year old technology. I love this tab almost as much as my s3, almost
Anyway, here's a video breakdown of the 2 side by side to give you an idea of what you're looking at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BG8A5shlP0
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In my opinion, iPads are toys. Great for entertainment but if you want something that is close to a lap or desktop replacement get a Tab. Ignore Browy. The Tab 10.1 does NOT have "very poor resolution" or performance. I updated to ICS and it's plenty speedy, and there are lots of custom ROMs and tweeks to enhance it even more. something iPads will never have.

Listen to Kishorsidu and Browy. I agree with what they say. Don't buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 it's too old. It was a good tablet when it was first released, but technology has moved on, and there are much better devices out there whether you want Android or Apple.

If you ask it this way, ipad 3, for sure! 10.1 is ****ing slow and old, and fw support is weak(official and xda)
I know there are android fanboys around that will argue against any apple product no matter what. I find this stupid and fanboyant!
I've been through Symbian, Symbian UIQ, windows mobile 5, 6, 6.5 , iOS, android, dos3.3- dos6, windows 3.11, NT, 95, 98, XP, 7, beos, os/2, all sorts of linuxes starting with slackware 3.2.
What you learn in the end is: there is no best, superior super duper ultra os. It all depends on your needs, what you expect and like!
So, go to the store and compare, read reviews and decide.
Also note, android like any linux product is a beta( even the "stable" versions). Its for people that like fiddling with stuff. This is not a bad thing! I like doing this from time to time.
If, on the other hand, you need something that just works, without being constantly kicked, pushed, rushed and fixed you might like the ipad. I dont say that iOS has no flaws and bugs, what I say is that in general, the things that apple promised, work.
Also, note that all apple devices get at least 3 years of official updates. Most android devices get forgotten in oblivion by their makers in about an year and your only hope is xda!
P.S. This is not anti-android, anti xda post! I respect all xda devs for what they are doing and I like android as a concept! I'm just expressing my view on the current situation!
regards

samsung galaxy tab 10.1 is still good unlike everyone says. you just have to make sure you don't screw with it too much installing custom roms and whatnot. i have had mine for a year and it's still amazing fast considering the fact that it's loaded with a pile of apps. don't exclude it from your choices.

BretonGirl said:
In my opinion, iPads are toys. Great for entertainment but if you want something that is close to a lap or desktop replacement get a Tab. Ignore Browy. The Tab 10.1 does NOT have "very poor resolution" or performance. I updated to ICS and it's plenty speedy, and there are lots of custom ROMs and tweeks to enhance it even more. something iPads will never have.
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what rom do you recommend?

patterns said:
what rom do you recommend?
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this rom is amazing. get it.

The right device depends largely on what you want to do with it, and whether you're invested in either ecosystem. If you've already got a library of music/books/movies, etc. via iTunes, then the iPad is the choice. The same is true if you're invested in Google's ecosystem.
However, in terms of Android tablets, I wouldn't recommend the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (unless you're on a tight budget, because one can be had fairly cheaply)...and I say that as someone who owns one. Its not that I dislike it. On the contrary, it really does everything I need it to do. The problem is there are several newer, better tablets out now.
Probably the top 3 I'd consider (not in any order):
ASUS Transformer - Quad core Tegra 3, 1920 x 1200 resolution
Nexus 10 - 1.7 GHz Exynos, 2560 x 1600 resolution, Google reference device will be among the 1st to get updates
Galaxy Note 10.1 - S-Pen functionality is awesome and it has some other great features
You may also want to consider a MS Surface or other Windows 8 tablet.

New Tablets no Note

Samsung has shown their new hi spec line-10.si and 8.4 inches but no new Note tablet. Does anyone think that they are done with the note line? Seems crazy but???

Shofar1 said:
Samsung has shown their new hi spec line-10.si and 8.4 inches but no new Note tablet. Does anyone think that they are done with the note line? Seems crazy but???
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That 8.4 tab did look sweet.. but without the pen, no thanks..
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I don't expect to see a successor to the Note 8, which is really a shame because, as we all know, it's a great size for portability and s-pen use. I've been quite happy with mine. Especially after the S Tab announcement, for what ever reason, I think the 8.4 S Tab is the unofficial Note 8 successor.
However, I'm (possibly) in a different situation than most in that I have a Note 3 so I've got my S-pen there. The only thing I don't like about the Note series is I always feel like I'm limited to TW-based ROMS so that I don't lose s-pen functionality. I flashed an AOSP ROM once, but it just didn't feel right on the Note (at the time at least) since the s-pen and probably other features were unusable so I restored a nandroid of Civato's before long.
This is probably heretical to say here, but the S Tabs are exactly what I was hoping they would be (actually I was disappointed that the Tab Pro 8.4 didn't have those specs). I'm lusting after the new 8.4 hardcore... I've been considering a tablet upgrade for a while. Hardware-wise it's exactly what I had been wanting, including the lack of a pen, as I often feel sort of "limited" when browsing the development forums... however I definitely understand the disappointment of all those without another device with an s-pen to play with
Lastly, I've seen the new tabs dinged a mark because they have the S5 back. I haven't used an S5, but however the back feels, as long as it's solid and stays on, the texture just isn't a factor. My Note 3 has the nicest backplate that I've seen on a Samsung device... and it's covered by a case 100% of the time. I've got no gripes with the back of my Note 8 that I can recall, as it's covered by a case 100% of the time. I wonder what percent of users of these high-end devices use them caseless? I guess it's good to mention something like that in a review, but considering it a con (independent of overall build-quality) in a pros / cons list just seems totally irrelevant to the majority of users.

Has anyone heard anything about the different iterations of the new Tab S? The ones they're showing now are wifi only, but its mentioned that an LTE version is coming later. In the past, Samsung has always made a version of their tablets with telephony capability (though they were never released in the US). I use an N5100 as my primary cellphone, so I'm particularly interested in whether there will be a Tab S with phone functionality. I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the articles I've read.

afblangley said:
Has anyone heard anything about the different iterations of the new Tab S? The ones they're showing now are wifi only, but its mentioned that an LTE version is coming later. In the past, Samsung has always made a version of their tablets with telephony capability (though they were never released in the US). I use an N5100 as my primary cellphone, so I'm particularly interested in whether there will be a Tab S with phone functionality. I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the articles I've read.
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Yes, we will get a Tab S with phone functionality. Saw it in a video by Android Authority on YouTube.
On phone, can't paste link...

Are you referring to SideSync? If so, that requires having a Samsung phone in addition to the tablet. I'm interested in using the Tab S solely as a smartphone. In other words, is the Tab S going to be like the Note i467 or the Note n5100?

We are closing this thread in favor of the 19 page thread already in progress here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455872&page=19