Hi all! as the subject says I'd like to know if there's any difference between the GT 10.1 and 10.1v? How many different models exist (10" from Samsung) ? AFAIK there's only one that's going to be released in the next days, but I may be wrong.
TIA!
Have you searched from the internet?
Not to be rude, but there are loads of information there.
Please do, and come back if you want something more specific.
The 10.1v is the "old" model, sold by Vodafone in Europe also Australia.
Hi
I have one 10.1v I bought a few days ago.from Vodafone, mine its not locked no Vodafone.
I believe from what I gave read that the 10.1v is a build from Samsung with some requirements from Vodafone....from the 10.1v runs stock honeycomb while I believe the 10.1 will run the Samsung touch wiz or something like that.
The 10.1v also doesn't have SD card, at least mine doesn't.....
For now that's what I know
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gogol said:
Have you searched from the internet?
Not to be rude, but there are loads of information there.
Please do, and come back if you want something more specific.
The 10.1v is the "old" model, sold by Vodafone in Europe also Australia.
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OK thanks! I'll try to find some more info googling... (like: are there HW differences between them?)
I know one of the biggest differences is that the 10v is thick like the xoom and the 10.1 is thinner than the ipad2
Uplinked through my mind
Though one sacrifice the newer 10.1 had to make seems to be with the camera. The back camera is only 3.0MP, while the older 10.1V has an 8MP camera.
Also not sure if the 10.1V is using a PLS display like the newer 10.1 is.
Both have Tegra 2 processors with 1GB RAM.
Mine has 8.6mm how much is the new one?
Thanks
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According to Samsung, the new model has exactly the same thickness as yours, check: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab
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Both have Tegra 2 processors with 1GB RAM.
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So YOU say! ;-) or do you have an actual source to back this claim up?
galtom said:
So YOU say! ;-) or do you have an actual source to back this claim up?
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Nvidia CEO is praising the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Many Galaxy Tab 10.1 Google IO edition owners shown Quadrant shots showing Tegra 2 inside.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt it's Tegra 2. I thought this was put to rest a long time ago.
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Nvidia CEO is praising the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Many Galaxy Tab 10.1 Google IO edition owners shown Quadrant shots showing Tegra 2 inside.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no doubt it's Tegra 2. I thought this was put to rest a long time ago.
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yes, but galtom has been holding hope for exynos longer than anyone in the world. also, the engadget post on 7310gt rekindles my hope too.
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The way I see it (I know it is unlikely but... it gives me hope ) is that White GT 10.1 is wi-fi only.
Because Samsung has to compete with Apple and will want to be seen as cheaper this model will not feature Exynos, no sd card support or any other extras but nice price tag.
Black GT 10.1 will be a 3G and as such is competing in a bit different price class where price itself is secondary to extras and features. So even if pad with them will be a bit more expensive than iPad2 it is not that important. In mind of general public it will be settled that GT 10.1 is cheaper, thinner and lighter... once you want more from your device you pay extra but you get a lot more than from competitive product.
Another reasons for me to have hope are....
1. Why would you spend thousands of $ to develop a chip if you will only use it in some of you phones? It would be OK if Exynos was bad, but it is not... so first you pay to make it and than you buy from Nvidia??? Where is logic in this?
2. Since Samsung know already for a while about how good Exynos is I would think that with every passing day they will want to volume needed/produced to grow/improve. Wouldn't you?
3. It seems to me that it would be smarter for Samsung to use as little Tegra chips as necessary. Would you want to give money to your competitor instead of improving you EXISTING design and production unit. For me that looks like acting against myself?
4. It is steel a while before we will see 3G model, look at my point no 2.
5. If all units do come with Tegra 2 inside why so much secrecy in the subject? Isn't it not similar as to Galaxy S II story?
5. If not Exynos than - it still might be a divix certified device - questions is... will "add on" to tegra design from Samsung help with mkv and in general High Profile playback?
6. It seems to me that it would be funny if flagship computer tablet would be less capable than a phone or in some ways even as the tablet of previous generation. This would mean that if you would add a docking station to Galaxy S II in form of the 10.1 screen it would be the best tablet on the market ;-) (sort of recent ASUS idea).
If any one has a sensible explanation to points above... please share.
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1. Why would you spend thousands of $ to develop a chip if you will only use it in some of you phones? It would be OK if Exynos was bad, but it is not... so first you pay to make it and than you buy from Nvidia??? Where is logic in this?
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This covers all 3 of your first points in fact;
Samsung's internal business structure is not as monolithic or homogenous as you might expect. The mobile division does not just walk down the corridor to the semi-conductor business and say "hey we're building a new device, we want your best SoC for it.", from what I hear (and according to Engadget or ThisIsMyNext, can't remember which one) Samsung makes its own business units (and there are a LOT of business units) compete with external bidders for inclusion in their hardware / project (I hear LG operate in a similiar fashion as well). So it's not a given that Samsung will go with their own gear, just because it is in the family.
Also, considering the Galaxy S2 will be using both Exynos and Tegra 2 hints at difficulties producing enough Exynos units to fulfil the expected demand for the Galaxy S2. This makes me believe there will be no supply to use in the 10.1
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_galaxy_s2#Launch
I honestly believe that Samsung will put priority for Exynos to be made available to the Galaxy S2. I'm sure Samsung would love to deploy the Exynos to as many devices as possible, but they may not be able to meet demand.
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5. If all units do come with Tegra 2 inside why so much secrecy in the subject? Isn't it not similar as to Galaxy S II story?
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You cannot take silence & secrecy to mean that they are being silent because they want to surprise everyone with something amazing like this being the first non Tegra 2 Honeycomb tablet.
It would be amazing for Samsung (or anyone for that matter) to release a tablet with an SoC better than Tegra 2, but I doubt that will happen with the 10.1. Of course, no one knows for sure and Samsung might be able to pull it together for the 10.1 3G launch, but I'd be more pessimistic than optimistic at this stage.
Hope you don't get too disappointed if it doesn't work out
I am already as much disappointed as it is possible.
And there is a tablet with better soc out there (ipad2) but because of stupid iOS all this potential is lost :-(
I was in app store yesterday to have a look at it...I would not hesitate and buy it but iOS and iTunes (itunes everywhere, for everything do put me of). + I do have a NAS drive ith over 800Gb of tv shows and movies that I do want to watch.
So both tegra 2 and iPad are no go :-(
Yes discounting the iPad 2 of course - I did mean a Honeycomb tablet
I also remembered that Samsung will be using the new Qualcomm Dual Core Snapdragon in their 4.5" "Hercules":
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/17/exclusive-samsung-hercules-t-mobile-dual-core-infuse-4g/
This seems to further strengthen the claims of Samsung's cut-throat internal business unit policies and also the Exynos supply limitations. Maybe.
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How many different models exist (10" from Samsung)?
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As far as I know, there's 3 major versions of the 10.1" from Samsung.
1. Galaxy Tab 10.1V (this is the original 10.1 tab announced at MWC).
2. Galaxy Tab 10.1 (this is the revised design of the 10.1 tab announced at CTIA).
3. Galaxy Tab 10.1 IO (this is the limited edition Tab 10.1 given to attendees at Google I/O 2011, very slightly different spec to the normal Tab 10.1).
The variants of each type as far as I know is as follows:
The 10.1V comes in 2 variants:
1. 16GB or 32GB built-in storage (WiFi+3G)
The 10.1 IO comes in a single variant:
1. 32GB built-in storage (WiFi only)
The 10.1 comes in a variety of specs
1. 16GB, 32GB or 64GB built-in storage
2. WiFi only or WiFi+3G
3. Black or white
(Although, every combination of spec may not be possible e.g. I vaguely recall the 64GB model was not available for the WiFi only versions).
I've collated this info from various posts I've read so happy to be corrected if I've got anything wrong.
only correction here is the IO comes in Wifi only but Google gave you a 4G Mifi unit to go with it
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As far as I know, there's 3 major versions of the 10.1" from Samsung.
1. Galaxy Tab 10.1V (this is the original 10.1 tab announced at MWC).
2. Galaxy Tab 10.1 (this is the revised design of the 10.1 tab announced at CTIA).
3. Galaxy Tab 10.1 IO (this is the limited edition Tab 10.1 given to attendees at Google I/O 2011, very slightly different spec to the normal Tab 10.1).
The variants of each type as far as I know is as follows:
The 10.1V comes in 2 variants:
1. 16GB or 32GB built-in storage (WiFi+3G)
The 10.1 IO comes in a single variant:
1. 32GB built-in storage (WiFi+3G)
The 10.1 comes in a variety of specs
1. 16GB, 32GB or 64GB built-in storage
2. WiFi only or WiFi+3G
3. Black or white
(Although, every combination of spec may not be possible e.g. I vaguely recall the 64GB model was not available for the WiFi only versions).
I've collated this info from various posts I've read so happy to be corrected if I've got anything wrong.
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only correction here is the IO comes in Wifi only but Google gave you a 4G Mifi unit to go with it
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Right, but that's only 90 days of service and has nothing to do with the tablet
the biggest difference is that 10.1v comes with only 512MB of RAM
I have 16GB, from Australia.
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Really like Samsung.. Have the Galaxy s2 skyrocket.. love it. and was thinking of getting the 10.1 tab , but heard the Asus prime is "the tab"..
Have heard issues with qc with asus and with the quad core being the first just alittle skiddish about it..
Im sure Best Buy will put the Galaxy stuff on sale soon..
I have heard great things of the Galaxy tabs..
What do you want? If you really want a quad-core, wait for new tablets first. If you don't need/want quad-core, get the GTab.
Just get the prime, seriously.
Here's what I would do:
1) post questions in the Q+A forum
2) read the forum and find the other thread ON THE SAME PAGE that asked the EXACT SAME QUESTION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383993
3) make up my own damn mind.
There are like three other threads discussing this same question.
If you have to have a tablet now, then yes, the Prime is the one to buy (assuming you want Wi-Fi only). But, like you said, Asus is a low to mid-level manufacturer and they had problems with the first Transformer and that was a much less complex device. If you read what's going on over at the Prime forum there's potential issues with Wi-Fi strength/range and some question as to just how many units will actually be made available this year. A ton of pre-orders were canceled and Amazon no longer has it listed for sale.
CES is January 11. There have been leaks about both Acer and Lenovo quad-core tablets. Both are supposed to have more RAM (2GB) and higher res displays (1900x1200) then the Prime. I wouldn't be surprised to see them announced in almost production-ready form at CES. Other than being the first Teg3 and having a dock, there's really nothing remarkable about the Prime. It's larger than the G-Tab, iPad2, and new Toshiba Excite. It has the same 1280x800 screen resolution and 1GB of RAM as all the first gen tablets. It also has mono-speakers (they're on one side) and only supports the 2.4GHz Wi-Fi band. I think all the people racing to buy a Prime that already have an existing tablet are going to be disappointed when better featured next-gen tablets start to be released.
If you can wait until February-ish I think either the Lenovo or Acer are probably going to be better choices if for no other reason than having higher-res displays. They'll also ship with ICS pre-installed. But for now, solely because of the Teg3 processor (and keyboard dock if you care), the Prime's the best available choice. You're other choice could be to watch for refurb deals on the G-Tab. They've been as low as $329 shipped for the holidays. You could use it for a few months to see what your options are and then sell it on eBay/CL for close to what you paid for it.
Get the gtab. There is nothing revolutionary about the prime. If you got a little patience, you'll wait two three months and get some of the real next generation tablets.
The galaxy tablet handles everything except 1080p, if you do have a huge collection of that, get something else.
You get one awesome screen, very nice stereo speakers and solid build quality.
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Here's what I would do:
1) post questions in the Q+A forum
2) read the forum and find the other thread ON THE SAME PAGE that asked the EXACT SAME QUESTION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383993
3) make up my own damn mind.
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Nice.. thank you for your informative post
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Nice.. thank you for your informative post
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If you're still in the remorse period for your Skyrocket you have another option. AT&T's got a deal going where you buy a G-Tab 8.9 and get a Skyrocket free. So if you paid either $149 or $249 for the Skyrocket you'd end up spending either $330 or $230 for the Tab. It's also got a Qualcomm chip which is faster/better then the Teg2 in the Wi-Fi version. You don't have to keep the data plan on the Tab either. If you want to sell it down the road it should also hold its value better than a Wi-Fi Tab.
I would say Asus based on the specs but based on their past history I'd avoid them and go with the Samsung Tab....
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If you're still in the remorse period for your Skyrocket you have another option. AT&T's got a deal going where you buy a G-Tab 8.9 and get a Skyrocket free. So if you paid either $149 or $249 for the Skyrocket you'd end up spending either $330 or $230 for the Tab. It's also got a Qualcomm chip which is faster/better then the Teg2 in the Wi-Fi version. You don't have to keep the data plan on the Tab either. If you want to sell it down the road it should also hold its value better than a Wi-Fi Tab.
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I saw that deal.. I have had my SR for about 6 weeks now..
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I would say Asus based on the specs but based on their past history I'd avoid them and go with the Samsung Tab....
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That is what I am thinking.. I will just use my tablet for fun really.. root it, custom roms.. customize it.. not for work or anything..
I mean , does anybody need 4 cores?
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I would say Asus based on the specs but based on their past history I'd avoid them and go with the Samsung Tab....
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I would avoid Asus too who needs updates, micro sd slot, hdmi port etc,etc,........ Look at Samsung they never roll out updates....They barely got 3.2 and 4.0 is just around the corner.
I cant tell if you guys are being sarcastic, but serious advice, i got my tab about 6 weeks ago and Im having tablet envy because the prime has more storage for the same money and its faster. I've had to do a lot of customization to mine for it to feel fast.
And if you plan on listening to music or watch any kind of movies on your tab then you will want to have 32gb minimum with MORE storage if you like to watch in 720p.
Having a usb flash sticking out the bottom of my tab doesnt feel right and im always paranoid im going to snap it
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I would avoid Asus too who needs updates, micro sd slot, hdmi port etc,etc,........
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They aren't the only one that has tablets with ports. The quality of the TF1 was questionable and the Prime either has or had Wi-Fi issues and it's not even released yet.
Look at Samsung they never roll out updates....They barely got 3.2 and 4.0 is just around the corner.
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I have a SGS2 and it's been updated like a dozen times. I don't know why they're so slow with tablets. They regionalize their products and offer 3G versions which Asus doesn't so that could explain some of the delay. As Google's platform partner for ICS, the Tab should get ICS faster and better then other brands. Samsung UK announced the SGS2 will get ICS next month. Let's hope the Tab's right behind it. It makes sense for Samsung to get ICS on the Tab quickly to extend its selling life in the face of competition that's supposed to be announced next month at ICS. The Toshiba Excite, a direct competitor to the G-Tab, will ship with ICS when it launches in February so hopefully Samsung will respond before then.
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I would avoid Asus too who needs updates, micro sd slot, hdmi port etc,etc,........ Look at Samsung they never roll out updates....They barely got 3.2 and 4.0 is just around the corner.
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I agree with the updates comment but Samsung has gotten a little better in that area...
I don't need usb or hdmi slots... Some do, some don't but I'm in the don't department..
Not a good sign when a manufacturer with a questionable quality history has to delay its product before its even released because of quality issues....
My $.02
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Not a good sign when a manufacturer with a questionable quality history has to delay its product before its even released because of quality issues....
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And not even agree internally on whether or not the problem exists. Asus Canada notified resellers that shipments were delayed indefinitely while a fix for poor Wi-Fi range was implemented. Asus U.S. said the launch is occuring as announced on 12/19. The Prime forum should be entertaining once people have them in their hands.
You can't accuse Asus of a delay when, in fact, they are expected to meet their US ship dates (and we'll find out in two days, won't we?). Out of *all* of the reviewers and websites who reviewed pre-pro and production models of the Transformer Prime, precisely ONE reported any sort of Wi-fi issue at all (anandtech). Hard to believe that, if there was a widespread issue, only one reviewer ever encountered it.
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You can't accuse Asus of a delay when, in fact, they are expected to meet their US ship dates (and we'll find out in two days, won't we?). Out of *all* of the reviewers and websites who reviewed pre-pro and production models of the Transformer Prime, precisely ONE reported any sort of Wi-fi issue at all (anandtech). Hard to believe that, if there was a widespread issue, only one reviewer ever encountered it.
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Then you should run out and be one of the first to get one. Asus had a poor track record for h/w on the TF1 and the Prime's a more complicated device. It may be the second coming of Christ but like many here I'll wait to see what Acer, Lenovo, and Samsung announce at CES on January 11. The Prime's the first quad-core, it won't be the only quad-core and with a G-Tab I love I'm in no rush and don't feel like being part of Asus' QC process.
Actually, yes, I ordered one weeks ago from Best Buy, so hopefully I will be the first one to get one. Having played with a Samsung, I'm certainly not interested in anything they'll be crowing about in January.
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Having played with a Samsung, I'm certainly not interested in anything they'll be crowing about in January.
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I know I should not feed a troll.... BUT....
Highly disappointed with the Samsung offerings from MWC..
A Galaxy Tab 2 that's almost identical to our current Tab
The Galaxy Note Tab did not impress me
The Galaxy Tab 11.6 was a no show..
Also, no Galaxy Note phone on Sprint..
I'd have to give Samsung an F grade for MWC...
The Note 10.1 was pretty impressive - if it doesn't have that ****ty closed-source-driver AR6000 wifi chip the Tab 7 Plus has I'm going to get it.
1.0 GHz to 1.4 GHz may not seem like much at first - but remember you're going (I'm fairly certain) from Tegra2 to Exynos. There's only one quadcore CPU on the market, and it's a Tegra. Nvidia is always the first to up their core count, but they typically deliver poor performance per core.
For example, the old Samsung Hummingbird could beat Tegra2 in many workloads despite being only single-core. (Infuse 4G utterly smoked the Atrix.)
Tab 2 10.1 was epic fail
I get the feeling they're not done with this year's announcements yet. There's no way they're going to leave the ipad 3 on its throne for long.
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I get the feeling they're not done with this year's announcements yet. There's no way they're going to leave the ipad 3 on its throne for long.
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If the 11.6 packs the specs its rumored to have, it will smoke the iPad3.. I really hope the 11.6 comes soon as I have been drooling over it since it was 1st rumored..
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I get the feeling they're not done with this year's announcements yet. There's no way they're going to leave the ipad 3 on its throne for long.
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It's already been announced that some of their "big" announcements (like the SGS3) will be separate.
However, announcing two tabs at MWC doesn't leave much room for non-MWC announcements.
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The Note 10.1 was pretty impressive - if it doesn't have that ****ty closed-source-driver AR6000 wifi chip the Tab 7 Plus has I'm going to get it.
1.0 GHz to 1.4 GHz may not seem like much at first - but remember you're going (I'm fairly certain) from Tegra2 to Exynos. There's only one quadcore CPU on the market, and it's a Tegra. Nvidia is always the first to up their core count, but they typically deliver poor performance per core.
For example, the old Samsung Hummingbird could beat Tegra2 in many workloads despite being only single-core. (Infuse 4G utterly smoked the Atrix.)
Tab 2 10.1 was epic fail
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I think it's too early to say what 2012's going to look like for Samsung’s tablets. Here's a quote from an interview...
"One reason for any confusion might be the multiple versions of the Galaxy Tab that have been released in the last year - from the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 to the Galaxy Tab 8.9 to the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus. Packingham said that Samsung was basically experimenting with what worked best. "2011 was the big introductory year for Samsung on the tablet side," he said. But "I think we've kind of reached a point where we understand what the market looks like, and we're now optimizing the tablet portfolio to go after the segments where we can be successful."
So if you think about it, the Tab 2 (7 and 10) replace their original equivalents and are probably going to be Samsung's low-end devices. The Note 10.1 is a specialty device that I'm guessing they'll also push hard via their commercial division. The 7 Plus could end up being replaced by a Note 7. The AMOLED 7.7 is kind of its own unique beast. The 8.9, if it doesn't get a "2" version, I'd imagine will fade in to the sunset. And the upcoming 11.6 is going to be a high-end monster (and probably priced that way) to take on the iPad3. Hopefully, based on their "optimizing" their portfolio, it'll start to make more sense later in the year.
I think Samsung has something up their sleeves and MWC is only showing what they have currently built and going to sell in the meantime. I doubt Samsung is going to let Crapple beat them with their Rumored and I quote Rumored specs on the Ipad3. Most people don't even know what the Ipad3 has in fact if it even has a higher pixel count. The rumor also says they might do away with the mechanical home button, umm.... capacitive like the rest if not most android phones how passe. Anyways getting back to Samsung I honestly think they are keeping things under wraps simply because Crapple is waiting to find something to sue about again.
( •_•) 10.1 showed up instead of 11.6? Guess they forgot to...
( •_•)>⌐■-■ "Alt tab"..
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the upcoming 11.6 is going to be a high-end monster (and probably priced that way) to take on the iPad3.
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As long as it priced the same as the iPad 3 they should not have a problem.. If it's priced higher, then most normal consumers will opt for the iPad 3..
In response to entropy512s comment about there being only one quadcore out
What about the quadcore in the HTC one x
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It's already been announced that some of their "big" announcements (like the SGS3) will be separate.
However, announcing two tabs at MWC doesn't leave much room for non-MWC announcements.
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Remember the galaxy tab last year. They announced it then when the ipad came out they rereleased it
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Don't know why anyone would expect much from Samsung once they pulled out of having their own press conference. I was way more interested in other companies at MWC once Samsung announced that.
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raqball said:
Highly disappointed with the Samsung offerings from MWC..
A Galaxy Tab 2 that's almost identical to our current Tab
The Galaxy Note Tab did not impress me
The Galaxy Tab 11.6 was a no show..
Also, no Galaxy Note phone on Sprint..
I'd have to give Samsung an F grade for MWC...
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The way look at it is: Samsung needs to change their game plan because they have so mnay prodcts out there it has become impossie for consumers to differntiate one from the other and make a desicion to buy one of the Tablets!
I think each line of Tablets should have something unique to offer and with each release they should improve specs as well as provide some new and attractive feature which makes it better than the previous release .................... But alas, samsung's prodect frenzy is not only hurting their own business but also samsung tablet/phone users who have to wait months before Samsung can push ot an update but then it already time for another version of Android release!
Samsung can make good products but its about time they should sober up and invest time and money into specific product lines which would be benficial to both them and us users.
They have their own event scheduled for March 9
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Don't worry I'm sure Samsung will copy the new iPad in a few months. They already preordered a few to get started on the R&D.
alex2792 said:
Don't worry I'm sure Samsung will copy the new iPad in a few months. They already preordered a few to get started on the R&D.
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I have ZERO interest in the iPad... Now the rumored 11.6? Bring on that iPad smoker Samsung and my cash shall belong to you...
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I have ZERO interest in the iPad... Now the rumored 11.6? Bring on that iPad smoker Samsung and my cash shall belong to you...
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Why stop at 11.6 go straight to the 50.1 Galaxy Tab Note.
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Why stop at 11.6 go straight to the 50.1 Galaxy Tab Note.
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Do you have anything meaningful to add or are you just trolling for Apple?
In a couple of weeks the Galaxy S III (i9300) is going to be launched with a quad core 1.5Ghz processor.
Given how slow Samsung have been to actively market the 7.7 does this mean the tablet is going to become redundant even before it's gained any sales traction?
While I love my 7.7 I'm realistic in that it's not been a sales success (mostly due to Sammies "too many products...no focus" current marketing strategy).
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I think samsung is trying to find a niche in the mobile market. Almost anything that is 'successful' to them, they will make revisions of them.
like samsung galaxy tab p1000 -> becomes 7.0 plus
or samsung s -> s2
and the 7.7, and 5.3 note was like test for them .. but it seems note was more successful.. and that 7.7 seems to release late, maybe due to the law suite with apple?
Personally i do like to see note 2
As for the sgs3, i will only consider it if it have sdcard slot + removable battery.
quad core means little for me.
Galaxy Tab 7.7
I changed from Galaxy S2 to Galaxy Tab 7.7.
I dont know why the Galaxy Tab 7.7 should become no sale success. if you compare it to other tabs you can see that the Hardware (beside the camera module) is very good.
I am satisfied with this tablet. If there will be the ICS update i think the android sofware will work much better than Honeycomb.
If you compare it to the Galaxy Note and the upcoming Galaxy S3 you will notice that the tab ist still another formfactor with its 7.7.
After using my tab for 2 weeks i dont want to miss ist, especially for media and internet. Besides this i am using it as cellphone too to telephone.
If i think of the 4,x inch Display of my S2 or the Note display i think the tab is still the better choice.
And due to its size it is still mobile enough to take it for everyday use.
Hope the 7.7 will get the ics update soon and find some more devs here in forum...
Id also like to see a Galaxy Note 2 and a Tab 2 7.7 but the new SuperAMOLED manufacturing and a bigger battery life. Probably the next Tab 7.7 will come with a quadcore A15.
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Probably the next Tab 7.7 will come with a quadcore A15.
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if only
Samsung makes a **** ton of Galaxy products in every size. Don't worry.
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In a couple of weeks the Galaxy S III (i9300) is going to be launched with a quad core 1.5Ghz processor.
Given how slow Samsung have been to actively market the 7.7 does this mean the tablet is going to become redundant even before it's gained any sales traction?
While I love my 7.7 I'm realistic in that it's not been a sales success (mostly due to Sammies "too many products...no focus" current marketing strategy).
Discuss
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How do you know that the GSIII is going to have a quad core chip in it? Until it is officially announced, any specs we may think we know or expect the GSIII to have are nothing more than rumors, speculations, and theories.
Don't get ahead of yourself here.
Until then, this conversation is pointless.
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How do you know that the GSIII is going to have a quad core chip in it? Until it is officially announced, any specs we may think we know or expect the GSIII to have are nothing more than rumors, speculations, and theories.
Don't get ahead of yourself here.
Until then, this conversation is pointless.
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Errr....
Already confirmed by a Samsung exec last month.
http://www.gsmarena.com/quadcore_cp...d_for_the_samsung_galaxy_s_iii_-news-3990.php
patronising much?
I heard the new sg3 will have duel quad core CPU and gpu.
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How do you know that the GSIII is going to have a quad core chip in it? Until it is officially announced, any specs we may think we know or expect the GSIII to have are nothing more than rumors, speculations, and theories.
Don't get ahead of yourself here.
Until then, this conversation is pointless.
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So get that tin foil hat off?
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I still don't have any idea what this thread is about. Are you worried that the 7.7 won't be top dog or something? It's yesterday's news. Get the shiniest thing you can.
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that I should sell my tablet 7.7 and sgs2 and buy a phone sgs3? doesnt so logic to me
maysider said:
that I should sell my tablet 7.7 and sgs2 and buy a phone sgs3? doesnt so logic to me
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Well, I was joking. This kind of thread is rather useless so I should refrain from reading or commenting, really.
Cripes chaps it's not that difficult to follow.......
The 7.7 was announced almost 8 months ago and in many markets the 3G version is still not even available.
As Sammie themselves (and other manufacturers) are now starting to announce quad core products it'll set expectation in the marketplace that quad core is now the base level.
This discourages buyers from buying dual core products.
Fewer sales means developers less inclined to work on a product that's perceived as out of date.
We, as owners of 7.7 devices get fewer ROM options.
Nottin' really... galaxy tab 2 is coming here at Singapore last time I heard they're also putting quad core in there...
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Correct me if I'm wrong ... would a quad core chip even present much of an upgrade over a dual core, considering the application? Seems like overkill to me.
Maybe you have a point there... but its a matter of adopting to the newest tech, soon most apps would be so heavy that you'd req a quadcore processor...
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buzzmcfly said:
Maybe you have a point there... but its a matter of adopting to the newest tech, soon most apps would be so heavy that you'd req a quadcore processor...
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Except for new games and other niche programs, I suspect that won't be the case for several more years to come.
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Correct me if I'm wrong ... would a quad core chip even present much of an upgrade over a dual core, considering the application? Seems like overkill to me.
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exactly, I am not even sure if programs in windows take advantage of dual or quad cores.
I'd rather take a A15 dual core than quad A9.
pinsb said:
Cripes chaps it's not that difficult to follow.......
The 7.7 was announced almost 8 months ago and in many markets the 3G version is still not even available.
As Sammie themselves (and other manufacturers) are now starting to announce quad core products it'll set expectation in the marketplace that quad core is now the base level.
This discourages buyers from buying dual core products.
Fewer sales means developers less inclined to work on a product that's perceived as out of date.
We, as owners of 7.7 devices get fewer ROM options.
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That's why I still haven't purchased it and sticking with my Overclocked original Tab. Hopefully Samsung will come with a 7.7 (2) that will be popular enough
But definitely at this point with little custom ROM available, no CM, and ICS not yet there it makes little sense to upgrade (I might for the battery life since my Tab after 18months starts to show signs of tiredness)
On top of it there is not even a GSM LTE version available (Actually there s in Korea but with different bands form the "usual" ones used in Europe and US)
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/23/new-samsung-tablets-sm-t535-sm-t531-and-sm-t530-uncovered/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...d-SM-T530-might-be-new-Galaxy-tablets_id51702
Two 8 inch tablets and one 10.1. Maybe they are Super Amoled versions or maybe even Google Play Editions. Man, the choices! Sometimes good and sometimes just sucks, I'd hate to have buyer's remorse.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/23/new-samsung-tablets-sm-t535-sm-t531-and-sm-t530-uncovered/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...d-SM-T530-might-be-new-Galaxy-tablets_id51702
Two 8 inch tablets and one 10.1. Maybe they are Super Amoled versions or maybe even Google Play Editions. Man, the choices! Sometimes good and sometimes just sucks, I'd hate to have buyer's remorse.
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Note's (so far) are "SM-P." The Tab|Pro 10.1 is "SM-T520."
I bet those are: Note Pro 8.4 wifi, Note Pro 8.4 LTE and Note Pro 10.1 WiFi (S-AMOLED)
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Can we even know if these are Android tablets and not Windows?
AcostaJA said:
I bet those are: Note Pro 8.4 wifi, Note Pro 8.4 LTE and Note Pro 10.1 WiFi (S-AMOLED)
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The Note|Pro 12 is "SM-P905" and the Tab|Pro 12 is "SM-T905" so whatever they are those aren't Note's. Why do you guys assume those are high-end devices? The Tab|Pro 10.1 (based on European pricing) is already touching iPad Air pricing and Samsung just announced their 2014 premium tablet line. I'm assuming redone mid-range or even value devices.
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The Note|Pro 12 is "SM-P905" and the Tab|Pro 12 is "SM-T905" so whatever they are those aren't Note's. Why do you guys assume those are high-end devices? The Tab|Pro 10.1 (based on European pricing) is already touching iPad Air pricing and Samsung just announced their 2014 premium tablet line. I'm assuming redone mid-range or even value devices.
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I think you're right, these can't be Note devices, but there are already 8 inch Tabs. So worst case they are just mid-range Tabs, best case they are Google Play Editions.
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I think you're right, these can't be Note devices, but there are already 8 inch Tabs. So worst case they are just mid-range Tabs, best case they are Google Play Editions.
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The (non-Note) Wi-Fi Tab|Pro 8.4 is €389 while its nearest Android competitor, the LG G Pad 8.3, is €285 on Amazon DE. The iPad Mini is the exact same price at €389. The Wi-Fi Tab|Pro 10.1 is €479 while the iPad Air is also €479. So the high-end is covered and Samsung would have to be suicidal to price an Android tablet above iPad pricing even with a carbon fiber body and an AMOLED display. So with the max price point already hit it's probably safe to assume future 2014 devices will be aiming lower; in some cases significantly lower.
I thought this info already came out during CES. These are Galaxy Tabs not Notes.
Good thing we have Berry here to shoot threads like this down.
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Good thing we have Berry here to shoot threads like this down.
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You've been in the threads where people are freaking out about the N10.1-14 being replaced by a Note|Pro 10.1 at some point. I personally think that's a lot less likely to happen now that M-UX appeared as a feature on the N10.1-14 global microsite. As Smoky Bear says, "the best fire is one you can prevent." And also "only you can prevent forest fires."
P.S. - If I was pushing for click-throughs like Phone Arena and SamMobile my spin would probably be different and laced with !!!! and inflammatory baseless opinion also.
People are freaking out because everyone here is afraid their shiny new toy might be obsolete (replaced by a better shiny new toy) after a mere 3 months
Russbad said:
Best case they are Google Play Editions.
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Or, what if they are the long rumored Nexus 10 replacement and recently rumored Nexus 8? The Nexus 10 had a Samsung model number (GT-P8110) so if Samsung's making the newer Nexi it would stand to reason they would too. The last tablet Samsung made with a "GT" moniker was the G-Tab 3 (GT-P5210) so the N10 fit with the then current naming convention. I wouldn't think Samsung would be interested in Google's contract Nexus business because of the lower margins but if they're looking to build up scale to drive down overall production costs (including for their own tablets and components) it could make sense.
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People are freaking out because everyone here is afraid their shiny new toy might be obsolete (replaced by a better shiny new toy) after a mere 3 months
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which is dumb cause they released a bunch of tablets and none of them had better specs than ours. At best, they matched our specs. People need to calm down. All of them different in either screen size or spen and that's it.
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You've been in the threads where people are freaking out about the N10.1-14 being replaced by a Note|Pro 10.1 at some point. I personally think that's a lot less likely to happen now that M-UX appeared as a feature on the N10.1-14 global microsite. As Smoky Bear says, "the best fire is one you can prevent." And also "only you can prevent forest fires."
P.S. - If I was pushing for click-throughs like Phone Arena and SamMobile my spin would probably be different and laced with !!!! and inflammatory baseless opinion also.
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That's the reason why I post here, because I haven't seen any discussion about these new rumored devices and I like getting input from all the smart people at XDA. So far I have heard all good info from here and am grateful for people with more insight than I have.
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which is dumb cause they released a bunch of tablets and none of them had better specs than ours. At best, they matched our specs. People need to calm down. All of them different in either screen size or spen and that's it.
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Yup. But to be fair I would be a little annoyed too if I found out that better versions of our tablets got announced 3 months later.
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Or, what if they are the long rumored Nexus 10 replacement and recently rumored Nexus 8? The Nexus 10 had a Samsung model number (GT-P8110) so if Samsung's making the newer Nexi it would stand to reason they would too. The last tablet Samsung made with a "GT" moniker was the G-Tab 3 (GT-P5210) so the N10 fit with the then current naming convention. I wouldn't think Samsung would be interested in Google's contract Nexus business because of the lower margins but if they're looking to build up scale to drive down overall production costs (including for their own tablets and components) it could make sense.
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Samsung won't be making those.
I sure wish there were a google edition 10.1 ROM available...
Samsung has shown their new hi spec line-10.si and 8.4 inches but no new Note tablet. Does anyone think that they are done with the note line? Seems crazy but???
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Samsung has shown their new hi spec line-10.si and 8.4 inches but no new Note tablet. Does anyone think that they are done with the note line? Seems crazy but???
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That 8.4 tab did look sweet.. but without the pen, no thanks..
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I don't expect to see a successor to the Note 8, which is really a shame because, as we all know, it's a great size for portability and s-pen use. I've been quite happy with mine. Especially after the S Tab announcement, for what ever reason, I think the 8.4 S Tab is the unofficial Note 8 successor.
However, I'm (possibly) in a different situation than most in that I have a Note 3 so I've got my S-pen there. The only thing I don't like about the Note series is I always feel like I'm limited to TW-based ROMS so that I don't lose s-pen functionality. I flashed an AOSP ROM once, but it just didn't feel right on the Note (at the time at least) since the s-pen and probably other features were unusable so I restored a nandroid of Civato's before long.
This is probably heretical to say here, but the S Tabs are exactly what I was hoping they would be (actually I was disappointed that the Tab Pro 8.4 didn't have those specs). I'm lusting after the new 8.4 hardcore... I've been considering a tablet upgrade for a while. Hardware-wise it's exactly what I had been wanting, including the lack of a pen, as I often feel sort of "limited" when browsing the development forums... however I definitely understand the disappointment of all those without another device with an s-pen to play with
Lastly, I've seen the new tabs dinged a mark because they have the S5 back. I haven't used an S5, but however the back feels, as long as it's solid and stays on, the texture just isn't a factor. My Note 3 has the nicest backplate that I've seen on a Samsung device... and it's covered by a case 100% of the time. I've got no gripes with the back of my Note 8 that I can recall, as it's covered by a case 100% of the time. I wonder what percent of users of these high-end devices use them caseless? I guess it's good to mention something like that in a review, but considering it a con (independent of overall build-quality) in a pros / cons list just seems totally irrelevant to the majority of users.
Has anyone heard anything about the different iterations of the new Tab S? The ones they're showing now are wifi only, but its mentioned that an LTE version is coming later. In the past, Samsung has always made a version of their tablets with telephony capability (though they were never released in the US). I use an N5100 as my primary cellphone, so I'm particularly interested in whether there will be a Tab S with phone functionality. I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the articles I've read.
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Has anyone heard anything about the different iterations of the new Tab S? The ones they're showing now are wifi only, but its mentioned that an LTE version is coming later. In the past, Samsung has always made a version of their tablets with telephony capability (though they were never released in the US). I use an N5100 as my primary cellphone, so I'm particularly interested in whether there will be a Tab S with phone functionality. I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the articles I've read.
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Yes, we will get a Tab S with phone functionality. Saw it in a video by Android Authority on YouTube.
On phone, can't paste link...
Are you referring to SideSync? If so, that requires having a Samsung phone in addition to the tablet. I'm interested in using the Tab S solely as a smartphone. In other words, is the Tab S going to be like the Note i467 or the Note n5100?
We are closing this thread in favor of the 19 page thread already in progress here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455872&page=19