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ok, totally new to the HD2 thing, and the ROM thing. i am a former blackberry guy, so i was always nuking and loading on new OS's, and i'm sure once i get the hang of this, it'll makde sense. i've seen the guide on how to do it, but what is the benefit of different ROMS? is that like a modded version of the OS to play with? can you restore all your contact/calendar info to it once your done?
sorry about the "noob-ness" of this question, but once you tell me, i'll run with it
thanks
Yes a ROM is basically a users take on what they would like the original OS to look/perform like. We also get updated packages from Microsoft thanks to some great people on these forums that keep us on the cutting edge of what's going on.
Basically, you unlock you phone and can flash ROM's whenever you want. You can always back up all your data and restore it all after a flash. You can also re-flash back to the original stock ROM your phone came with and restore the same info and never touch it again. Your prerogative.
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Yes a ROM is basically a users take on what they would like the original OS to look/perform like. We also get updated packages from Microsoft thanks to some great people on these forums that keep us on the cutting edge of what's going on.
Basically, you unlock you phone and can flash ROM's whenever you want. You can always back up all your data and restore it all after a flash. You can also re-flash back to the original stock ROM your phone came with and restore the same info and never touch it again. Your prerogative.
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so the phone has to be unlocked before you can start flashing and loading?
ryan7977 said:
so the phone has to be unlocked before you can start flashing and loading?
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Not a carrier unlock.
Yes, top of the page you will see the HSPL unlocker Leo 1024 thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
This is if you own a T-Mobile USA version HD2!
From what I have seen, the custom Roms usually are faster and have more add-ons than the stock software does. At least in the case of Energyroms
anyone have a suggested first rom for a first time noob with a tmo hd2?
Dutty's...it's a very basic/clean ROM and it works very well...
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1732
i honestly feel stupid looking at the instructions for this, and i am a real technical guy too. is there a really really dulled down instruction set for this somewhere? like, "hold the hand of a baby" easy?
ryan7977 said:
i honestly feel stupid looking at the instructions for this, and i am a real technical guy too. is there a really really dulled down instruction set for this somewhere? like, "hold the hand of a baby" easy?
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lol, I'm in the same boat! This is my first steps into the realm of WinMo. I've successfully loaded the Energy rom (pretty sweet too!) and just loaded the Kumar Rom last night. I really like the Kumar, it looks pretty close to stock and is really fast (plus I think I'm getting way better battery life with it).
The guide at the top of the page does a great job at explaining how to flash a rom imo, Except when it comes to backing up the data.
I (and you as well) would definitely benefit from a "Hand Holding" through backing up all the data and using sashimi or xda_uc to restore it.
I've tried both and I still don't quite get it. I just want to be able to restore my email accounts, my quick launch links, install the programs I want, and setup my facebook. I really wanna try Miri, it looks great! But I want to back up everything first.
Where are some good backing up step by step tutorials? So I don't skip/forget anything?
Thanks!
p.s. sorry if I hijacked your thread. I think you'll benefit from it greatly thou
I'm also gonna have to jump on the bandwagon and say I need my hand held.
I thought I was pretty technical but apparently not enough. ^^;;
Thanks for any help provided! =D
Actually found the installation process to be extremely easy. =D Just follow the instructions, the onboard menus will explain the rest.
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Dutty's...it's a very basic/clean ROM and it works very well...
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1732
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ok, but here is my thing. i just looked at dutty's, and it doesn't look any different from the stock. am i missing something?
That's the point, it is very close to stock. The performance is much better than stock though. You'll notice the more crap people start dumping in ROM's the worse they work. That's why i suggest using one that is close to stock so you don't have to worry about trouble shooting problems.
Ryan and Joe,
The instructions are pretty easy, but its the concept that bugged me at first. Keep this in mind and maybe it'll help you:
1) Our phones have the Firmware (OS) locked out so we can't load our own custom one. Therefore, we have to flash the HSPL to allow custom firmwares (ROMS). Once you flash the HSPL, you should be good to go with trying out all the compatible ROMS.
2) When you decided on a ROM (Energy for me), download the version you want. NRG has two versions with multiple variants of those versions. (I chose 23549 Cookie). Download that. There will be two files, one is an exe.
3) Whether you are flashing your HSPL or a ROM, ActiveSync MUST SEE YOUR PHONE. If it doesn't or if you have problems, try different USB ports. I know I had issues when using a hub.
4) Your phone's data will be wiped each time you flash. There are some alternatives (like putting cabs in the UC folder or using Sashimi).
PM me if you need some hand-holding. I don't mind. Everybody needs to start somewhere.
ok, well i did the first step fairly easy. now i'll explore flashing a new rom, and see how that goes....
here goes nothin
so is there any software or tutorial on backing up the phone's data ( like contacts,messages,..etc) before flashing any ROMs?
and if there is one...then how do i use it after flashing the ROMs?
If you're just worried about contacts/calender/texts then use Microsoft Myphone. Just download the program, sign in, and sync what you want. Then after you flash you install the program, sign in, and sync your info right back.
Hit me on gtalk...school's in session. It's easier than it looks JB. I'll help you if you havin' trouble. YEEEE!!
PLEASE MAKE SURE the ROM you're flashing is compatible with the US 1024MB version of the HD2!!
Also, some radio ROMs can brick your device if you don't use the correct version, so I suggest noobs don't flash their radio versions.
Some ROMs come with a RADIO flash and some don't (most don't) so make sure you read the ROM description carefully to MAKE SURE it explicitedly says it's compatible with the U.S. version of the HD2 - and if it doesn't.. DON'T FLASH, don't take the risk.
I'm very new to Android (just got an HTC G1 with Android 1.6 from Craigs List) and I was wandering if there is a way to safely upgrade to Android 2.1.
I truly appreciate your help.
It's perfectly safe if you read and understand all the instructions before you do anything. If there's any part where you aren't 100% sure what you're doing and what the aim of it is, do more research before you press a single key. All the information is in the wiki here (link up top) and the wiki at cyanogenmod.com
One must realize that NOT ALL INSTRUCTIONS are correct. SOME instructions can brick your phone.
Using this is brick-proof: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
HOWEVER, your phone needs to be set up to work with it (the setup is safer for preparing for this than most others).
Installation of 1.33.2005 SPL aka "DEATHSPL" is the most dangerous step anyone puts in their instructions. The above link DOES NOT require 1.33.2005. It works with all SPLs, including all of the "perfectly safe" SPLs -- 0.95.x000 and 1.33.2003.
Thank you for the great responses.
I read a couple of instructions and looks like I have a lot more learning to do before I can touch anything. For example there are terms like rooting, flashing and other terms that I have no idea where to start from.
Do you know of any video that shows all the process?
geora said:
Thank you for the great responses.
I read a couple of instructions and looks like I have a lot more learning to do before I can touch anything. For example there are terms like rooting, flashing and other terms that I have no idea where to start from.
Do you know of any video that shows all the process?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS9l2XVG0iY
i cant verify the files, as i just used the wiki and understood from past flashing experience =]
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1.33.2003.
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And to add if you use this SPL.. and then decide that (after more reading debugging ect.) it would be easier to use dangerSPL; its a simple mater of using fastboot to flash 1.33.2005 and any future radios without the risks in most peoples instructions.
Information on 1.33.2003 is in CONFIRMED!! BRICKS: Radio and SPL + New SAFETY theory read a few pages around that post to ensure you understand what you are doing and what you want to install.
The important thing is to understand the importance of compatibility between radio->SPL->recovery if you want to flash these without (most) of the risk..
The other thing is to keep focused when flashing a bootloader (spl) and don't get side tracked, of start flashing other things since you last verified the state of your phone. If you can't do this best stick with what works now.
geora said:
Thank you for the great responses.
I read a couple of instructions and looks like I have a lot more learning to do before I can touch anything. For example there are terms like rooting, flashing and other terms that I have no idea where to start from.
Do you know of any video that shows all the process?
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I absolutely DO NOT RECOMMEND videos.
The processes you need to follow are NOT CONDUCTIVE to being learned through videos and the PEOPLE who make the videos, by and large, are RETARDS.
Unfortunately there isn't a safe method to update G1 to 2.1 ROM. You will have to change SPL and propably a radio and when doing this you can brick phone. However, there is no chance to brick phone other way. You can try to flash as many ROMs as you want, you can do what you want, there is always recovery when you can just wipe and flash a new ROM.
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Unfortunately there isn't a safe method to update G1 to 2.1 ROM. You will have to change SPL and propably a radio and when doing this you can brick phone.
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1) while it may take more foot work you can flash a 2.1 rom without spl/radio changes
2) not safe well this depends.. is it safe to walk on a trail next to a cliff without a gaurd rail.. maybe not if you are blind but for most people it is... the problem is many people are blind in the android world.. and thus fall off the cliff.. frequently feeling they did everything correct without realizing they forgot the most important part..
I have a new Magic (32b Google/Vodafone Ed) and I am hoping this is an ok question to ask... Any help, is much appreciated!
I've been searching through forums and seeking help wherever I can and not getting anywhere fast with information I'd like.
Firstly, when I bought the phone (2nd hand) it came with Cyanogen on it.
But there were all sorts of issues and so I had to do some fast learning, to fix it.
I managed to find out how to flash the phone, and reinstall the Restore functionality on the phone......
Once that was done, I was loving it and started installing apps.
I thought I had it perfect, so decided to install a theme (I didn't know it was untested) so when I flashed it, it locked the phone into a boot loop.
I spent 24 hours trying to understand how to 'fix' it as I restored a NAND backup which wasn't mine, and ended up with the phone back to it's factory default Vodafone Android 1.6 version with the old owners picture lock code!!!
A friend ended up 'fixing' it, I believe by getting a good copy of the default OS and flashing it with the fastboot menu.
After he did that, Vodafone here released an over-air update, so the phone is now running the default HTC Android version, but on 2.2.1
What I would like to know, is before I embark on the rather terrifying task of trying to put Cyanogen back on, is what are the benefits to rooting the phone vs the risks?
I understand that the risk of 'bricking' the phone is very real, and if I screw it up, I could basically destroy the phone, but do the benefits outway the risk?
I now have been given the Goldcard, plus install files for Cyanogen the original owner used to root the phone, so I am reasonably confident that it will work fine - as it was running Cyanogen beautifully (other than a couple minor glitches) when I got the phone.
If I root the phone and install Cyanogen, what benefits do I get over the stock 2.2.1 install?
IMHO the real true benefits from rooting is the complete freedom and the ability to really make the phone your own.the question you asked has been asked so many times and truthfully the real reward comes with actually rooting the phone yourself.
1. itll free up ram on the phone allowing you to do things faster(this depend on what rom you get too)
2. you can put apps on a part of your sd card which will keep your phone going fast just dont over do it
3. overclocking and underclocking to speed it up even more
4. the themes! me personally i dont care too much for themes people complain so much about them but its whatever.
5. the customization is really endless
the real reward comes with finally exhaling that breath after you first start rooting your phone lol.
thisishoot said:
the real reward comes with finally exhaling that breath after you first start rooting your phone lol.
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Well... now that I know I'll get for sure!!! As I know how rough it was when I broke it hahaha
As for the rest, you aren't able to change things like themes without rooting??
Pretty girly I know, but that's one of the main things I really want to do with it!
Being faster would be a help too as I have found over the past few days, that sometimes it can be quite slow..... Would Cyanogen speed it up a bit?
thecharmed01 said:
Well... now that I know I'll get for sure!!! As I know how rough it was when I broke it hahaha
As for the rest, you aren't able to change things like themes without rooting??
Pretty girly I know, but that's one of the main things I really want to do with it!
Being faster would be a help too as I have found over the past few days, that sometimes it can be quite slow..... Would Cyanogen speed it up a bit?
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Most stable ROM's will help with performance, CyanogenMod being one of them. The myTouch has a CPU rated for 576 MHz(if I recall correctly), but it comes from the factory underclocked at 384 MHz. Most ROM's have an OC kernel in them and will just require that you install SetCPU to control the CPU speed. As for your worries about bricking your phone, nowadays you don't even have to have a Goldcard. You can simply root with one of the many one-click root programs, use ROM Manager to flash a custom recovery (I prefer Amon Ra, but you can also use ClockworkMod) and create a backup of your untouched ROM, and then flash a new ROM from there. It's really all quite simple now IMHO, unlike when I originally rooted my phone using the Goldcard method.
hmm, is there a tut for that somewhere? As the only tutorial I have atm is the Cyanogen one which requires a Goldcard, dropping back to an older version, then rooting the phone?
I'd love to see another way of doing it?
Here's one and there's also the z4root app. You used to be able to use Universal Androot, but the exploit it used was patched in that 2.2.1 update you got.
Do you have any idea if the HTC Magic is compatible with that? As if it is, it is looking most intriguing!
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Do you have any idea if the HTC Magic is compatible with that? As if it is, it is looking most intriguing!
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All three of the methods I mentioned will work for the Magic. The one I linked should work fine.
I`ve been searching all day for the steps I need to perform in order to update my Andoid version on my HTC G1.
I`s appreciate all the help in finding the topic if it does exist or to tell me all the steps and software I need to perform in order to get this done.
Thank`s
cangri12 said:
I`ve been searching all day for the steps I need to perform in order to update my Andoid version on my HTC G1.
I`s appreciate all the help in finding the topic if it does exist or to tell me all the steps and software I need to perform in order to get this done.
Thank`s
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So in other word you want to root your phone and install a custom rom, did I get that right?
First find a thread in g1 that explains rooting process, Then go to 'G1's android development' and pick a custom rom that you would like to try, and follow the instructions give in the first post of the custom rom, good luck and happy flashing!
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
I would like to add, do research on the ROM before you decide which one you will flash. See which one you like the best before you install the ROM. It will be a lot easier in the long run. But of course, you can try each one to see what you like best about them. And then go with the best one (That's a long way and a lot of flashing to do).
This is from my experience (even with the research I did), I currently have a ROM that I might not keep. But it suit me for now until I do more research on what will be the best one for my use.
azrash said:
So in other word you want to root your phone and install a custom rom, did I get that right?
First find a thread in g1 that explains rooting process, Then go to 'G1's android development' and pick a custom rom that you would like to try, and follow the instructions give in the first post of the custom rom, good luck and happy flashing!
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App
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rooted or non rooted I don`t care,as long as I can update the version.
i`ma take a look to see what I can do.
cangri12 said:
rooted or non rooted I don`t care,as long as I can update the version.
i`ma take a look to see what I can do.
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The only way is to rooted. Especially if you want to get the latest Android 2.x.
Hi! I had a few questions/concerns, whatever.
I looked through, about.. 19 pages of the General Discussion of "HD2 Android Q&A and General." and I can't find a thread about the risks of loading an Android Rom, onto my windows mobile device. (Also, this is coming from a person who has no idea what he's talking about. )
I have an HTC HD2 Windows Mobile Device.
I dislike windows, compared to my old android device. And I was wondering, are there any risks to running a "Android Rom" onto my phone? I've head it can "brick" it. Which from what I understand, sucks. So, can anyone confirm that? Or tell me, all/any risks to it? And also, if I did do this, could I play my angry birds? :3
It can brick if you are too hasty and don't follow directions. Otherwise, I feel confident that the tools developed on this forum will make unlocking your phone and installing Android a painless experience.
I think the only risk of flashing Android over wm is that you get Android addicted
Installing HSPL and magdlr or clk should be save, never heard, that someone bricked his device by installing these.
The only way to brick your device is flashing a wrong radio rom, or stop the flash progress of a radio rom.
1. An android HD2 is more likely to be stolen.
2. You are more likely to be losing some more friends, once you get playing the wonderful games in android.
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1. An android HD2 is more likely to be stolen.
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LOL : I'm not sure thiefs are checking the OS when they're about to commit their offense.
"Oh wait, that's a custom WinMo 6.5 ROM ? Sorry, here's your phone back !"
you can use an Android SD version, so you can keep your winmo.
The [SD] RAFDROID HD 4.2 bellow has a nice installation instructions. Just follow it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970731
So, wait, are there ANY risks then?
No, there are no risks if you follow instructions, and even fewer risks if you use an SD Android build. That way you are guaranteed to have a working phone if anything goes wrong with Android.
Itz_Wolfei- said:
Hi! I had a few questions/concerns, whatever.
I looked through, about.. 19 pages of the General Discussion of "HD2 Android Q&A and General." and I can't find a thread about the risks of loading an Android Rom, onto my windows mobile device. (Also, this is coming from a person who has no idea what he's talking about. )
I have an HTC HD2 Windows Mobile Device.
I dislike windows, compared to my old android device. And I was wondering, are there any risks to running a "Android Rom" onto my phone? I've head it can "brick" it. Which from what I understand, sucks. So, can anyone confirm that? Or tell me, all/any risks to it? And also, if I did do this, could I play my angry birds? :3
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I'm not too savvy when it comes to this stuff, but I helped a friend who isn't savvy at all with this stuff root his HD2 in IM. That's how reliable and easy it is. The absolute only true concern is the power going out to your PC while flashing your HD2. If you have a reliable power source...maybe a battery backup or just using a fully charged laptop...there is really no worry for anyone who can follow the simple directions.
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So, wait, are there ANY risks then?
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Hi,
The main risk is flashing the wrong radio or interupting a radio flash(power loss,screen saver,antivirus updating or autoscan etc.)
So make sure nothing will interupt it and you will be fine.
Best radio for Android Nand is
HERE
Also make sure you have a fully charged battery before starting.
As others have said, just use a SD build. I too was too paranoid to do the NAND, so I started installing SD build. So easy and so risks. You will love it!
Another SD build to try is the AmericanAndroid version of Gingerbread / Cyanogenmod 7.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
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As others have said, just use a SD build. I too was too paranoid to do the NAND, so I started installing SD build. So easy and so risks. You will love it!
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I cant see where this paranoia comes from, Flashing MAGLDR to your phone its exactly the same type of file and process as flashing a official or custom Winmo rom.
The only thing you need to worry about is if you have a US HD2 and flash the wrong radio to your device.
If you don't use Winmo there just isnt any need to have it on your nand any more. Also using Android on NAND can solve alot of problems over booting via SD.
Stop been a ***** and just flash magldr and a nand rom, Its even easier process for n00bs now there is a HD2 AIO Tool.
Right, so I have no idea what a rom/flash/radio is. I'm soo lost in all of this. >_>
And then, I can't figure out what to do. Like, I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136644
I've downloaded the files, but there are no directions? Im so lost on what to do. And I also had a question for him, but I can't post on his thread because I don't have more than 10 posts. Can someone find a simplier way of putting it on my phone? Or atleast help me out with his? Thanks.