Hi! I had a few questions/concerns, whatever.
I looked through, about.. 19 pages of the General Discussion of "HD2 Android Q&A and General." and I can't find a thread about the risks of loading an Android Rom, onto my windows mobile device. (Also, this is coming from a person who has no idea what he's talking about. )
I have an HTC HD2 Windows Mobile Device.
I dislike windows, compared to my old android device. And I was wondering, are there any risks to running a "Android Rom" onto my phone? I've head it can "brick" it. Which from what I understand, sucks. So, can anyone confirm that? Or tell me, all/any risks to it? And also, if I did do this, could I play my angry birds? :3
It can brick if you are too hasty and don't follow directions. Otherwise, I feel confident that the tools developed on this forum will make unlocking your phone and installing Android a painless experience.
I think the only risk of flashing Android over wm is that you get Android addicted
Installing HSPL and magdlr or clk should be save, never heard, that someone bricked his device by installing these.
The only way to brick your device is flashing a wrong radio rom, or stop the flash progress of a radio rom.
1. An android HD2 is more likely to be stolen.
2. You are more likely to be losing some more friends, once you get playing the wonderful games in android.
flame10 said:
1. An android HD2 is more likely to be stolen.
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LOL : I'm not sure thiefs are checking the OS when they're about to commit their offense.
"Oh wait, that's a custom WinMo 6.5 ROM ? Sorry, here's your phone back !"
you can use an Android SD version, so you can keep your winmo.
The [SD] RAFDROID HD 4.2 bellow has a nice installation instructions. Just follow it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970731
So, wait, are there ANY risks then?
No, there are no risks if you follow instructions, and even fewer risks if you use an SD Android build. That way you are guaranteed to have a working phone if anything goes wrong with Android.
Itz_Wolfei- said:
Hi! I had a few questions/concerns, whatever.
I looked through, about.. 19 pages of the General Discussion of "HD2 Android Q&A and General." and I can't find a thread about the risks of loading an Android Rom, onto my windows mobile device. (Also, this is coming from a person who has no idea what he's talking about. )
I have an HTC HD2 Windows Mobile Device.
I dislike windows, compared to my old android device. And I was wondering, are there any risks to running a "Android Rom" onto my phone? I've head it can "brick" it. Which from what I understand, sucks. So, can anyone confirm that? Or tell me, all/any risks to it? And also, if I did do this, could I play my angry birds? :3
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I'm not too savvy when it comes to this stuff, but I helped a friend who isn't savvy at all with this stuff root his HD2 in IM. That's how reliable and easy it is. The absolute only true concern is the power going out to your PC while flashing your HD2. If you have a reliable power source...maybe a battery backup or just using a fully charged laptop...there is really no worry for anyone who can follow the simple directions.
Itz_Wolfei- said:
So, wait, are there ANY risks then?
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Hi,
The main risk is flashing the wrong radio or interupting a radio flash(power loss,screen saver,antivirus updating or autoscan etc.)
So make sure nothing will interupt it and you will be fine.
Best radio for Android Nand is
HERE
Also make sure you have a fully charged battery before starting.
As others have said, just use a SD build. I too was too paranoid to do the NAND, so I started installing SD build. So easy and so risks. You will love it!
Another SD build to try is the AmericanAndroid version of Gingerbread / Cyanogenmod 7.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
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As others have said, just use a SD build. I too was too paranoid to do the NAND, so I started installing SD build. So easy and so risks. You will love it!
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I cant see where this paranoia comes from, Flashing MAGLDR to your phone its exactly the same type of file and process as flashing a official or custom Winmo rom.
The only thing you need to worry about is if you have a US HD2 and flash the wrong radio to your device.
If you don't use Winmo there just isnt any need to have it on your nand any more. Also using Android on NAND can solve alot of problems over booting via SD.
Stop been a ***** and just flash magldr and a nand rom, Its even easier process for n00bs now there is a HD2 AIO Tool.
Right, so I have no idea what a rom/flash/radio is. I'm soo lost in all of this. >_>
And then, I can't figure out what to do. Like, I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136644
I've downloaded the files, but there are no directions? Im so lost on what to do. And I also had a question for him, but I can't post on his thread because I don't have more than 10 posts. Can someone find a simplier way of putting it on my phone? Or atleast help me out with his? Thanks.
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ok, totally new to the HD2 thing, and the ROM thing. i am a former blackberry guy, so i was always nuking and loading on new OS's, and i'm sure once i get the hang of this, it'll makde sense. i've seen the guide on how to do it, but what is the benefit of different ROMS? is that like a modded version of the OS to play with? can you restore all your contact/calendar info to it once your done?
sorry about the "noob-ness" of this question, but once you tell me, i'll run with it
thanks
Yes a ROM is basically a users take on what they would like the original OS to look/perform like. We also get updated packages from Microsoft thanks to some great people on these forums that keep us on the cutting edge of what's going on.
Basically, you unlock you phone and can flash ROM's whenever you want. You can always back up all your data and restore it all after a flash. You can also re-flash back to the original stock ROM your phone came with and restore the same info and never touch it again. Your prerogative.
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Yes a ROM is basically a users take on what they would like the original OS to look/perform like. We also get updated packages from Microsoft thanks to some great people on these forums that keep us on the cutting edge of what's going on.
Basically, you unlock you phone and can flash ROM's whenever you want. You can always back up all your data and restore it all after a flash. You can also re-flash back to the original stock ROM your phone came with and restore the same info and never touch it again. Your prerogative.
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so the phone has to be unlocked before you can start flashing and loading?
ryan7977 said:
so the phone has to be unlocked before you can start flashing and loading?
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Not a carrier unlock.
Yes, top of the page you will see the HSPL unlocker Leo 1024 thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
This is if you own a T-Mobile USA version HD2!
From what I have seen, the custom Roms usually are faster and have more add-ons than the stock software does. At least in the case of Energyroms
anyone have a suggested first rom for a first time noob with a tmo hd2?
Dutty's...it's a very basic/clean ROM and it works very well...
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1732
i honestly feel stupid looking at the instructions for this, and i am a real technical guy too. is there a really really dulled down instruction set for this somewhere? like, "hold the hand of a baby" easy?
ryan7977 said:
i honestly feel stupid looking at the instructions for this, and i am a real technical guy too. is there a really really dulled down instruction set for this somewhere? like, "hold the hand of a baby" easy?
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lol, I'm in the same boat! This is my first steps into the realm of WinMo. I've successfully loaded the Energy rom (pretty sweet too!) and just loaded the Kumar Rom last night. I really like the Kumar, it looks pretty close to stock and is really fast (plus I think I'm getting way better battery life with it).
The guide at the top of the page does a great job at explaining how to flash a rom imo, Except when it comes to backing up the data.
I (and you as well) would definitely benefit from a "Hand Holding" through backing up all the data and using sashimi or xda_uc to restore it.
I've tried both and I still don't quite get it. I just want to be able to restore my email accounts, my quick launch links, install the programs I want, and setup my facebook. I really wanna try Miri, it looks great! But I want to back up everything first.
Where are some good backing up step by step tutorials? So I don't skip/forget anything?
Thanks!
p.s. sorry if I hijacked your thread. I think you'll benefit from it greatly thou
I'm also gonna have to jump on the bandwagon and say I need my hand held.
I thought I was pretty technical but apparently not enough. ^^;;
Thanks for any help provided! =D
Actually found the installation process to be extremely easy. =D Just follow the instructions, the onboard menus will explain the rest.
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Dutty's...it's a very basic/clean ROM and it works very well...
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1732
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ok, but here is my thing. i just looked at dutty's, and it doesn't look any different from the stock. am i missing something?
That's the point, it is very close to stock. The performance is much better than stock though. You'll notice the more crap people start dumping in ROM's the worse they work. That's why i suggest using one that is close to stock so you don't have to worry about trouble shooting problems.
Ryan and Joe,
The instructions are pretty easy, but its the concept that bugged me at first. Keep this in mind and maybe it'll help you:
1) Our phones have the Firmware (OS) locked out so we can't load our own custom one. Therefore, we have to flash the HSPL to allow custom firmwares (ROMS). Once you flash the HSPL, you should be good to go with trying out all the compatible ROMS.
2) When you decided on a ROM (Energy for me), download the version you want. NRG has two versions with multiple variants of those versions. (I chose 23549 Cookie). Download that. There will be two files, one is an exe.
3) Whether you are flashing your HSPL or a ROM, ActiveSync MUST SEE YOUR PHONE. If it doesn't or if you have problems, try different USB ports. I know I had issues when using a hub.
4) Your phone's data will be wiped each time you flash. There are some alternatives (like putting cabs in the UC folder or using Sashimi).
PM me if you need some hand-holding. I don't mind. Everybody needs to start somewhere.
ok, well i did the first step fairly easy. now i'll explore flashing a new rom, and see how that goes....
here goes nothin
so is there any software or tutorial on backing up the phone's data ( like contacts,messages,..etc) before flashing any ROMs?
and if there is one...then how do i use it after flashing the ROMs?
If you're just worried about contacts/calender/texts then use Microsoft Myphone. Just download the program, sign in, and sync what you want. Then after you flash you install the program, sign in, and sync your info right back.
Hit me on gtalk...school's in session. It's easier than it looks JB. I'll help you if you havin' trouble. YEEEE!!
PLEASE MAKE SURE the ROM you're flashing is compatible with the US 1024MB version of the HD2!!
Also, some radio ROMs can brick your device if you don't use the correct version, so I suggest noobs don't flash their radio versions.
Some ROMs come with a RADIO flash and some don't (most don't) so make sure you read the ROM description carefully to MAKE SURE it explicitedly says it's compatible with the U.S. version of the HD2 - and if it doesn't.. DON'T FLASH, don't take the risk.
Is there OTA updates for the TMOUS HD2 or is there another way to do this? sorry im new to winmo so Im a little lost, could use some help. Any info would help thanks Ive searched in this thread but cant find anything
there are no updates from microsoft.updates for widows mobile were never implemented.
the only way to get updates is if tmo release a new rom.
.....or if you flash a custom ROM here.
heh, yea or that. by far the best option.
custom maybe???
thanks, Ill keep checking on this, Ive been thinkin about putting a custom rom but Im kinda eery about it, I dont want to brick my phone. Im new to the whole winmo thing, I comming from android and rooted so many phones, but still intimidated by winmo (completely different)
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thanks, Ill keep checking on this, Ive been thinkin about putting a custom rom but Im kinda eery about it, I dont want to brick my phone. Im new to the whole winmo thing, I comming from android and rooted so many phones, but still intimidated by winmo (completely different)
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I was like you about a month ago. Give it some time, and read carefully. It's not nearly as complicated as it seems.
HSPL via the HD2 is less complicated than rooting Android.
I'm very new to Android (just got an HTC G1 with Android 1.6 from Craigs List) and I was wandering if there is a way to safely upgrade to Android 2.1.
I truly appreciate your help.
It's perfectly safe if you read and understand all the instructions before you do anything. If there's any part where you aren't 100% sure what you're doing and what the aim of it is, do more research before you press a single key. All the information is in the wiki here (link up top) and the wiki at cyanogenmod.com
One must realize that NOT ALL INSTRUCTIONS are correct. SOME instructions can brick your phone.
Using this is brick-proof: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717874
HOWEVER, your phone needs to be set up to work with it (the setup is safer for preparing for this than most others).
Installation of 1.33.2005 SPL aka "DEATHSPL" is the most dangerous step anyone puts in their instructions. The above link DOES NOT require 1.33.2005. It works with all SPLs, including all of the "perfectly safe" SPLs -- 0.95.x000 and 1.33.2003.
Thank you for the great responses.
I read a couple of instructions and looks like I have a lot more learning to do before I can touch anything. For example there are terms like rooting, flashing and other terms that I have no idea where to start from.
Do you know of any video that shows all the process?
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Thank you for the great responses.
I read a couple of instructions and looks like I have a lot more learning to do before I can touch anything. For example there are terms like rooting, flashing and other terms that I have no idea where to start from.
Do you know of any video that shows all the process?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS9l2XVG0iY
i cant verify the files, as i just used the wiki and understood from past flashing experience =]
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1.33.2003.
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And to add if you use this SPL.. and then decide that (after more reading debugging ect.) it would be easier to use dangerSPL; its a simple mater of using fastboot to flash 1.33.2005 and any future radios without the risks in most peoples instructions.
Information on 1.33.2003 is in CONFIRMED!! BRICKS: Radio and SPL + New SAFETY theory read a few pages around that post to ensure you understand what you are doing and what you want to install.
The important thing is to understand the importance of compatibility between radio->SPL->recovery if you want to flash these without (most) of the risk..
The other thing is to keep focused when flashing a bootloader (spl) and don't get side tracked, of start flashing other things since you last verified the state of your phone. If you can't do this best stick with what works now.
geora said:
Thank you for the great responses.
I read a couple of instructions and looks like I have a lot more learning to do before I can touch anything. For example there are terms like rooting, flashing and other terms that I have no idea where to start from.
Do you know of any video that shows all the process?
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I absolutely DO NOT RECOMMEND videos.
The processes you need to follow are NOT CONDUCTIVE to being learned through videos and the PEOPLE who make the videos, by and large, are RETARDS.
Unfortunately there isn't a safe method to update G1 to 2.1 ROM. You will have to change SPL and propably a radio and when doing this you can brick phone. However, there is no chance to brick phone other way. You can try to flash as many ROMs as you want, you can do what you want, there is always recovery when you can just wipe and flash a new ROM.
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Unfortunately there isn't a safe method to update G1 to 2.1 ROM. You will have to change SPL and propably a radio and when doing this you can brick phone.
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1) while it may take more foot work you can flash a 2.1 rom without spl/radio changes
2) not safe well this depends.. is it safe to walk on a trail next to a cliff without a gaurd rail.. maybe not if you are blind but for most people it is... the problem is many people are blind in the android world.. and thus fall off the cliff.. frequently feeling they did everything correct without realizing they forgot the most important part..
I herd ppl say that they've made their phones strictly Android rooted with no WinMo rom that pulls up first. I want to know how is that possible to do and if so is it dangerous and also how can you possbily reboot the phone or whatever.
bigern17 said:
I herd ppl say that they've made their phones strictly Android rooted with no WinMo rom that pulls up first. I want to know how is that possible to do and if so is it dangerous and also how can you possbily reboot the phone or whatever.
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Wow, you should probably do some more reading before starting a new thread. Yes, this is perfectly possible and you can follow this guide to do so.
As long as you follow instructions properly, it is almost risk-free and Android is fully functional. If you want an even better experience, try using CLK, it gives a more authentic feel from what I've heard and supports charging when phone is off, reboot into bootloader and reboot into recovery.
Good luck
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I herd ppl say that they've made their phones strictly Android rooted with no WinMo rom that pulls up first. I want to know how is that possible to do and if so is it dangerous and also how can you possbily reboot the phone or whatever.
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download hd2 toolkit............does it all for u.........WORLD CLASS program
bigern17 said:
I herd ppl say that they've made their phones strictly Android rooted with no WinMo rom that pulls up first. I want to know how is that possible to do and if so is it dangerous and also how can you possbily reboot the phone or whatever.
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Read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209474
It is very useful. I have my HD2 running Android. Winmo it´s history
this is a video tutorial which guides you through every step of the process. It's very easy to understand, i've used this to flash android on my HD2 for the first time and it went very well.
a bit off-topic: i suggest the MIUI 10.14 rom, it's by far the fastest, most complete and easy to use rom i've used!
video tutorial: http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/08/15/how-to-install-cwm-nand-android-on-htc-hd2-video/
rom: http://en.miui.com/
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could help. I am using the sd method for android on the HTC HD2. Just put on ICS. The problem I have is that after awhile when the the screen turns off and I can not get it back on. The four lower keys light up when pushed but no image. I had the same problem with gingerbread and thought ICS would be the fix. The result is I have to reboot into Windows and then back into android.
Any ideas wold be much appreciated.
dave
dtl said:
Hi,
I was wondering if someone could help. I am using the sd method for android on the HTC HD2. Just put on ICS. The problem I have is that after awhile when the the screen turns off and I can not get it back on. The four lower keys light up when pushed but no image. I had the same problem with gingerbread and thought ICS would be the fix. The result is I have to reboot into Windows and then back into android.
Any ideas wold be much appreciated.
dave
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Hmm, I thought the SOD had been fixed? What you have is not uncommon (at least it used to be quite common) so it's unlikely that it's to do with your phone. I myself had it tonnes in the early stages of GB on the HD2 and it was pretty much the most annoying issue there was for me. One potential fix is to flash a custom Windows Mobile ROM which just involves flashing HSPL then the ROM. It's incredibly easy to do and it's unlikely to have any bad effects in any way, so I would try that if I were you. An alternative is to install NAND Android. If you want to do this follow this guide.
thank you
Thank you for your help!
actually
Can you point me to the protocol for flashing the rom?
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Hmm, I thought the SOD had been fixed? What you have is not uncommon (at least it used to be quite common) so it's unlikely that it's to do with your phone. I myself had it tonnes in the early stages of GB on the HD2 and it was pretty much the most annoying issue there was for me. One potential fix is to flash a custom Windows Mobile ROM which just involves flashing HSPL then the ROM. It's incredibly easy to do and it's unlikely to have any bad effects in any way, so I would try that if I were you. An alternative is to install NAND Android. If you want to do this follow this guide.
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I've already linked the Android flashing guide and here is the guide to flashing a custom ROM for EU HD2s. If you are in America and have a TMOUS HD2 follow this guide instead
Working
Thank you again.
I am in use with TMo. Have done the hpsl (found a video on how to) still SD. Will keep working.
dave
Nigeldg said:
I've already linked the Android flashing guide and here is the guide to flashing a custom ROM for EU HD2s. If you are in America and have a TMOUS HD2 follow this guide instead
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