Hello everyone, I have been reading a lot about people experiencing a random 10% battery drop after charging they're phones. some people have said duh! your not using an SBC kernel. well i'm not using an SBC kernel and i have found a solution to this problem. i will post my solution as well as two other solutions i have found but i personally do not use:
when you charge your battery mainly over night, by the time you wake up you battery says 100% and then shortly after it starts dropping until it hits 85% - 90% battery.
My solution - after your phone has dropped, reboot your phone. after you reboot it charge it again until it's at 100%. now you should be good to go.
if you are not good to go here are some other solutions that might work.
1 - charge your phone while it's turned off
2 - charge your phone to 100% while it's on then turn it off until you see a green light. once you have seen a green light turn it back on and charge it again until it's at 100% battery.
if none of these work calibrate your phone and try any of these steps again. i use an app called Battery Calibrator. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.liteup.calibratebattery&feature=search_result
I could be wrong, but I thought that your battery stops charging once you reach 100%.. and then lets the battery drop down to 90% before it kicks in and starts charging again.
jplowamn said:
I could be wrong, but I thought that your battery stops charging once you reach 100%.. and then lets the battery drop down to 90% before it kicks in and starts charging again.
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You are correct. There a hundreds of posts with dozens of fixes for this. What he is stating has been talked about for months, just not recently as everybody knows about it already.
thanks for the advice
I have a question regarding this issue, hopefully someones got an answer. If I dont use an sbc kernel, I get 10-11% drop in the first 10 minutes off charge. I put my phone on charge at about midnight and take it off at about 5-6 am. If my phone takes 2 hours to charge fully then how in the hell does it drop 10% in that extra 3-4 hours while the screen is off and its still plugged in? I understand that it stops at 100% and then drops to 90%, but why does it drop to 90% so fast?
Yep, when I wake up in the morning I take my phone of of the charger. Then I check my messages, look at my tweets and plug it back in. I go eat breakfast, get ready for work, and by that time my phone has charged back up to 100%. I then take my phone off of the charger and it has a full charge with no drop.
xcpefrmreality said:
I have a question regarding this issue, hopefully someones got an answer. If I dont use an sbc kernel, I get 10-11% drop in the first 10 minutes off charge. I put my phone on charge at about midnight and take it off at about 5-6 am. If my phone takes 2 hours to charge fully then how in the hell does it drop 10% in that extra 3-4 hours while the screen is off and its still plugged in? I understand that it stops at 100% and then drops to 90%, but why does it drop to 90% so fast?
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I think its the natural discharge rate of the lithium ion battery. Even though its not being used by the EVO, the battery is still discharging because of the internal circuitry and how batteries operate. I'm probably wrong though lol.
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I have a question regarding this issue, hopefully someones got an answer. If I dont use an sbc kernel, I get 10-11% drop in the first 10 minutes off charge. I put my phone on charge at about midnight and take it off at about 5-6 am. If my phone takes 2 hours to charge fully then how in the hell does it drop 10% in that extra 3-4 hours while the screen is off and its still plugged in? I understand that it stops at 100% and then drops to 90%, but why does it drop to 90% so fast?
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if you use an sbc kernel then your phone charges to the full 100%, however that is not good for the battery. it can kill your battery really fast or it can last a while so without sbc when you charge your phone to 100% it really isn't charged to the full 100%. which is the diff between sbc and non-sbc
Green_Arrow said:
if you use an sbc kernel then your phone charges to the full 100%, however that is not good for the battery. it can kill your battery really fast or it can last a while so without sbc when you charge your phone to 100% it really isn't charged to the full 100%. which is the diff between sbc and non-sbc
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Not really. With a stock kernel, the phone will charge to 100% then will stop charging and will let the battery drop to 90% and then start charging again. But, the actual phone doesn't show the drops back down to 90%, it will always show 100%. On an SBC kernel, the phone charges to 100% and then trickle charges to keep it at 100%.
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tgruendler said:
Not really. With a stock kernel, the phone will charge to 100% then will stop charging and will let the battery drop to 90% and then start charging again. But, the actual phone doesn't show the drops back down to 90%, it will always show 100%. On an SBC kernel, the phone charges to 100% and then trickle charges to keep it at 100%.
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but i've also heard on a stock phone when you'r low on batt. like 30% below your batt. begins to drop semi-faster than normal so would that be the same as the 10% drop? just the for us we see it immediately?
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but i've also heard on a stock phone when you'r low on batt. like 30% below your batt. begins to drop semi-faster than normal so would that be the same as the 10% drop? just the for us we see it immediately?
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Not the same from what I have read. I had the same issue with stock on my EVO 4G where the last 20-30 percent of battery was horrific. I rooted and did a battery calibration and it corrected my issue.
I will try this out
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Not the same from what I have read. I had the same issue with stock on my EVO 4G where the last 20-30 percent of battery was horrific. I rooted and did a battery calibration and it corrected my issue.
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exactly but w/o rooting and calibrating it, it sucked in the last 30%
Blaster0007 said:
I will try this out
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let me know how it goes ^_^
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if you use an sbc kernel then your phone charges to the full 100%, however that is not good for the battery. it can kill your battery really fast or it can last a while so without sbc when you charge your phone to 100% it really isn't charged to the full 100%. which is the diff between sbc and non-sbc
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That's total bull. It does not harm the battery or the phone at all ever. Also, your miracle solution is a year an half old, welcome to late June 2010...
MCL1981 said:
That's total bull. It does not harm the battery or the phone at all ever. Also, your miracle solution is a year an half old, welcome to late June 2010...
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From an electronic standpoint, you can't say it doesn't hurt the battery but making it retain a charge it was designed to drop. But yes, there really isn't need for the "scare" that was associated with sbc long ago, as the methods have been refined, and haven't heard an 'sbc war story' in some time now.
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From an electronic standpoint, you can't say it doesn't hurt the battery but making it retain a charge it was designed to drop.
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And you can't say it does hurt the battery either. And given there is no evidence whatsoever of it hurting it.....
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From an electronic standpoint, you can't say it doesn't hurt the battery but making it retain a charge it was designed to drop. But yes, there really isn't need for the "scare" that was associated with sbc long ago, as the methods have been refined, and haven't heard an 'sbc war story' in some time now.
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so is there no downside now to using sbc?
I have been using sbc on my seidio 3500 battery since it was introduced. Except for a month when I started using Synergy. No drop in usage time at first but over that month my battery went to ****.
I have since installed boot manager and have Synergy as my main ROM, and at night i switch to Warm 2.2 rls5 with a netarchy sbc kernel and charge using that. Which is now every other day. My battery is still going strong and lasting as long as ever.
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so is there no downside now to using sbc?
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Nope. None that I'm aware of or have experienced.
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Whats the best program to see what had been eating up your battery?
The Android operating system.
Settings >> About Phone >> Battery >> Battery Use
Everything is normal in there yet in an hour by battery went from 100% to 84% on regaw 1.3.1
DirtyShroomz said:
Everything is normal in there yet in an hour by battery went from 100% to 84% on regaw 1.3.1
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My batter seems to go from 100% to 85% every day in a very quick manner. However, after that, it slows down. Maybe it is just the behavior of this battery (or the software that measures it).
Regardless, even with that, I get 12-14 hours (with moderate usage) before I get the 15% warning.
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My batter seems to go from 100% to 85% every day in a very quick manner. However, after that, it slows down. Maybe it is just the behavior of this battery (or the software that measures it).
Regardless, even with that, I get 12-14 hours (with moderate usage) before I get the 15% warning.
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this is EXACTLY how my batt performs
revlayle said:
My batter seems to go from 100% to 85% every day in a very quick manner. However, after that, it slows down. Maybe it is just the behavior of this battery (or the software that measures it).
Regardless, even with that, I get 12-14 hours (with moderate usage) before I get the 15% warning.
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I noticed that as well, ill keep a close eye on it again today, i do have very heavy use
spare parts is helpful as well
If you're running a 2.1 ROM:
Don't forget to change the Network Mode to "CDMA Auto (PRL)". Do this by dialing "*#*#4636#*#*", and then pressing Phone Information. Even if it is already set to CDMA Auto (PRL), press it anyway.
Try using a 2.1 with a tweaked memkiller. It'll help to kill off apps that are still running and using battery. I usually get about 2 days of battery out of my phone while using TrevE's MOD.
I think the battery discharge curve that dictates battery level is off in the 85-100% range on these phones.
why dont people buy a 2000mah battery?
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why dont people buy a 2000mah battery?
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chicks dig it
if you charge over night first thing in the morning do something to get it down to 99% then plug in charger again, i find my phone will charge for a good 15-20 minutes and the battery drops much slower
DirtyShroomz said:
Everything is normal in there yet in an hour by battery went from 100% to 84% on regaw 1.3.1
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i had the same issue. download spare parts (as was mentioned earlier) and check 'partial wake usage'. sprint's voicemail was keeping my phone awake for some reason. i ditched it and have great battery life now. google voice all the way...
What is this TrevE Mod?
Just want to share my experience of 'best' charging method that can maximize the battery life of my Nexus one.
Firstly, let me introduce my equip:
- Machine: Nexus one
- Rom: FRF91 Stock, Deodexed, rooted, busybox... (Geo411m)
- Kernel: intersectRaven's 2.6.35_AVS-925mV_CFS_20100802_1056.zip
- Control: SetCPU, Interactive: 245-960Mhz when on, and 245-245 when screen off
The key method of obtaining max. battery life is the 'GOLDEN' time from 100% drop down to 99%. Once the battery shows dropping from 100 to 99%, the dropping speed is quite stably fast onwards
So, how to retain 100% longer before dropping to 99%? Below are the steps that really work for me:
1) Charge the phone to green light, some where between 90% and 100% (say: 95%)
2) Disconnect USB charging cable
3) Turn off the phone
4) Connect USB charging cable and charge the phone, it should show orange light
5) Set a timer, remember to *ONLY charge the phone for around 20-25mins*
6) The concept is NOT to charge the phone until you get green light. In order words, you need to charge the phone from 95% for 20-25mins where the light is kept ORANGE with the phone turned off!!!
7) After 20-25mins, disconnect USB cable and power on your nexus phone
8) You are done and the battery should last longer before dropping to 99%
9) Time in step (5) depends, you need to trial-&-error
For my experience, I normally charge the phone before I sleep and disconnect the charger. In the morning when I get up, it usually shows around 95% of battery. Then, I power off the phone and charge it. And then I take breakfast, bla bla bla ~ and after around 20mins, disconnect the charger and go to work. The battery can retain 100% for around 30mins of continuous web browsing, facebooking... and when I reach my office, sometimes, the battery still shows 100% !!!
So, above is my experience of how to maximize the 100% retaining time.
Please feel free to try and share with us whether it really works for you
Great advice.
Personally, I can't really be bothered with going out of my way to be overly concerned about battery life. I don't play games on my phone -- that will change when Angry Birds is released for Android -- nor do I watch movies, and I don't really do too much web browsing. Sometimes I listen to music, but not often.
I can go 12-14 hours of normal use (mostly Twitter and text messaging) and that will put me around 45-50%. I'm never somewhere that I can't charge the phone if I need to; USB at work, regular charge at home, and a charger in the car.
All of these tips and tricks for extending battery life are neat, but why bother?
^ Well looking at your usage, and the plenty charging points, of course you dont care. However, some ppl browse a lot, play games, so every last inch of battery life means something.
I just keep spare batteries in my pockets =D
I will try your golden tips.. then I will write my thoughts.
I thank you for sharing.
Screwing up the battery meter does not get you more battery life, period, and I suspect your shenanigans here is doing that. The battery has a set capacity, it's not going to charge more than that.
The Nexus One and a lot of other modern phones with modern batteries DO NOT trickle charge, they charge to 100% and STOP charging. When the phone drops to a certain limit, it charges more. Repeat as long as it's on the charger. This is why you might see it "drop a few percent" when you pull the charger.
Yea this sounds like a huge placebo effect.
Well I just did this, been off charger for over an hour.. still 100% after over an hour and two reboots.
At 1378mAh right now, didn't get a reading straight after first reboot unfortunately.
I'm also trialing autorun killer. Disabled a free services I don't use.. seemingly increased startup time.
heya,
Don't you mean decreased startup time?
Cheers,
Victor
Yeah, that's what I mean.
victorhooi said:
heya,
Don't you mean decreased startup time?
Cheers,
Victor
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Well I just did this, been off charger for over an hour.. still 100% after over an hour and two reboots.
At 1378mAh right now, didn't get a reading straight after first reboot unfortunately.
I'm also trialing autorun killer. Disabled a free services I don't use.. seemingly increased startup time.
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How do you figure out your mAh level? Spare parts only shows me mV.
Thanks
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This is placebo. In the OP you even say after it finally drops to 99% it drops fast after that. It's because the phone wasn't at 100% all that time. It was giving you a false reading from messing with the charging pattern.
The best way I've found to charge the phone is to delete the battery stats, turn the phone off, and charge it until it's green. I get a great day of battery life with the phone that way.
Ryjabo said:
Great advice.
Personally, I can't really be bothered with going out of my way to be overly concerned about battery life. I don't play games on my phone -- that will change when Angry Birds is released for Android -- nor do I watch movies, and I don't really do too much web browsing. Sometimes I listen to music, but not often. I can go 12-14 hours of normal use (mostly Twitter and text messaging) and that will put me around 45-50%. I'm never somewhere that I can't charge the phone if I need to; USB at work, regular charge at home, and a charger in the car. All of these tips and tricks for extending battery life are neat, but why bother?
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Totally agree...I just charge when & where necessary and never worry about it! Don't have the time and it seems to last long enough for me to work & play
I had already discovered this and was looking for a fool proof way but I guess you beat me to it. Happens when you traveling alot. For me, I have gotten over 1500mAh more than once..some times 100% would last me half a day too. So it's worth it, my question is whether or not this is bad for your battery? or long term battery life.
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I had already discovered this and was looking for a fool proof way but I guess you beat me to it. Happens when you traveling alot. For me, I have gotten over 1500mAh more than once..some times 100% would last me half a day too. So it's worth it, my question is whether or not this is bad for your battery? or long term battery life.
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I'm fairly sure that the Milliampere-hour (mAh) is the capacity of the battery (the amount of energy it will store). How can you get "over 1500mAh" on a 1400 mAh battery? None of you are making any sense what so ever. You can't get more energy out of a battery by charging it a specific way. If I gave you a bucket that held 10lbs of sand and you filled it with 8lbs of sand and waited a few minutes then started filling the rest slowly, it wont hold more sand. This is nothing more than a placebo effect. The only way to get more time from a battery is to reduce the amount of consumption. The only way to do that is to use your phone less or make your hardware use the battery less such as undervolting your CPU. I tried for the longest time to explain to people that underclocking your CPU does absolutely nothing. If you're still running at the same voltage you're still consuming the same amount of power.
Stop messing around with the battery and the battery stats.
Could someone please use the phone until it goes off in the evening? What percentage is shown on the batteryicon when it goes off? 20% or what?
xPatriicK said:
Stop messing around with the battery and the battery stats.
Could someone please use the phone until it goes off in the evening? What percentage is shown on the batteryicon when it goes off? 20% or what?
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Actually it's not a good idea to fully discharge the phone often.
Source: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/
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Actually it's not a good idea to fully discharge the phone often.
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I know but once isnt often.
Btw we have some great battery threads here.. somewhere.. general or accessories forums..
xPatriicK said:
I know but once isnt often.
Btw we have some great battery threads here.. somewhere.. general or accessories forums..
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Yeah, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669497
I have been using ultimate juice defender and battery life has doubled with usual usage. Maybe this can be considered as an alternative to longer battery life
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Anyone else notice this?? I've run both the first and the second 2.2 leaked Rom, and both exhibit this same issue. Okay first a little info: stock battery, stock HTC wall charger and stock use cable. I don't charge off a use port on a comp, always the wall charger.
Now, on stock 2.1, I could run the battery all the way down, connect the charger, and be back to full charge in max 1.5 hours. On 2.2, it takes more than twice that long. So I went thru the whole downgrade process (pain!) to get back to stock 2.1, ran that for a day and confirmed, charging on the wall charger gets about 1% a minute. Went back to 2.0 radio and second leaked 2.2 ota, and yeah, back to taking 2-3 mins to get a percent, about 3.5-4 hours to full charge.
So..... what gives? Anyone else noticing this? Can it be fixed via patch or something? Is it the radio, the new kernel, what?
its probably the new radio. i dont know how the radio directly affects battery life tho. it is not the kernel, because i am running cm6 and the problems have persisted on cm6 too. i have been experienceing these problems too
-jd
Radio
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i dont know how the radio directly affects battery life tho
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The radio could be the #2 drain on a battery (short of 100% on screen) ... if the radio is not getting the signal it wants, it hunts and hunts, and 1x draws incredible power from the battery vs 3G.
The buggy radio and buggy beta could easily be causing you trouble in your area, if they just don't play right with the signal you are getting. Hopefully when the non-beta radio comes out, things will change.
Mind you, my battery life seems fine, no worse than stock anyways. It's just the charging time that has gotten dramatically worse.
Same..there's no reason my phone should be charging for close to 4 to 5 hours I don't know what's up with that
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Same..there's no reason my phone should be charging for close to 4 to 5 hours I don't know what's up with that
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I may be all wet...but there is a battery file in your phone that I think gets wiped when you install a new ROM.
I do all of my charging at night, so I don't know how long it takes after wiping and installing ROMs. I do remember it taking about three hours to charge the battery the very first time I plugged it in.
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I may be all wet...but there is a battery file in your phone that I think gets wiped when you install a new ROM.
I do all of my charging at night, so I don't know how long it takes after wiping and installing ROMs. I do remember it taking about three hours to charge the battery the very first time I plugged it in.
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Doesn't explain why after I wiped and went back to 100% stock my charge time went back to taking no more than 90 mins...
Nah I flashed roms all the time on my Droid never took this long to charge. Even on my inc cyanogen 6 never took that long its definitely something about 2.2 roms or sky raider.
I have this problem on mine and made a thread on androidforums. After watching a few things I came to the conclusion its the cpu speed. It never throttles down below about 500-600 mhz. Open setCPU and don't touch anything. You'll see it won't drop to the 200s like its supposed to.
Someone came up with a work around by using setcpu. Create a profile for when the screen is off so that the max is 245 mhz. You'll find that your charge times will be a lot better.
Even though this works I would like to know why the phone is not throttling down at idle like its supposed to. Someone with more knowledge might have the answer.
I had noticed that and posted a thread about it awhile back. I have a hard time believing that is the sole reason for tripping charge times though
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I have this problem on mine and made a thread on androidforums. After watching a few things I came to the conclusion its the cpu speed. It never throttles down below about 500-600 mhz. Open setCPU and don't touch anything. You'll see it won't drop to the 200s like its supposed to.
Someone came up with a work around by using setcpu. Create a profile for when the screen is off so that the max is 245 mhz. You'll find that your charge times will be a lot better.
Even though this works I would like to know why the phone is not throttling down at idle like its supposed to. Someone with more knowledge might have the answer.
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all the explanations posted so far would be a cause of battery DRAIN issues, which most people claim to see better overall battery life since jumping on 2.2 (myself included). none of these could explain why charge times would take twice as long. i myself have had better battery life on 2.2, but charge times are definitely in the 3-4 hour range as opposed to the 1.5 hours it was before. BUT, one theory is htc might have lowered the charge input from what it was before, meaning a slower charge time but preserving battery health and possibly increasing battery life. just a guess, chemistry majors correct me if im wrong lol.
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all the explanations posted so far would be a cause of battery DRAIN issues, which most people claim to see better overall battery life since jumping on 2.2 (myself included). none of these could explain why charge times would take twice as long.
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If the phone isnt underclocking even when the screen is off, it would be using more power even while charging, which would explain the long charge times.
Proof of concept would be, if you try and charge while using bluetooth and gps in the car you may not lose charge, but it will not charge as quickly as if you are not using those things.
if the CPU use is high then the battery would not charge as quickly.
I'm still not so certain that the setcpu profle has solved my problem, still havent been conscious of it enough to be sure.
mb02 said:
all the explanations posted so far would be a cause of battery DRAIN issues, which most people claim to see better overall battery life since jumping on 2.2 (myself included). none of these could explain why charge times would take twice as long. i myself have had better battery life on 2.2, but charge times are definitely in the 3-4 hour range as opposed to the 1.5 hours it was before. BUT, one theory is htc might have lowered the charge input from what it was before, meaning a slower charge time but preserving battery health and possibly increasing battery life. just a guess, chemistry majors correct me if im wrong lol.
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Common sense would tell you that if something is draining the battery, charge times would be higher...
Gbenj. Its definitely not a full fix for it since it requires the screen to be off but it has definitely cut down on my charge times. Its still no where near what it was for 2.1 but atleast I dont have to wait 4 hours for 10%.
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If the phone isnt underclocking even when the screen is off, it would be using more power even while charging, which would explain the long charge times.
Proof of concept would be, if you try and charge while using bluetooth and gps in the car you may not lose charge, but it will not charge as quickly as if you are not using those things.
if the CPU use is high then the battery would not charge as quickly.
I'm still not so certain that the setcpu profle has solved my problem, still havent been conscious of it enough to be sure.
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Common sense would tell you that if something is draining the battery, charge times would be higher...
Gbenj. Its definitely not a full fix for it since it requires the screen to be off but it has definitely cut down on my charge times. Its still no where near what it was for 2.1 but atleast I dont have to wait 4 hours for 10%.
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All understood, BUT, yesterday when using gps nav for a few hours and on the car charger, i was actually still LOSING battery. nothing else was on (bluetooth or wifi) no calls, no texts or anything. 2.1, i still gained charge while using gps on the car charger as well as having an overclocked kernel. so its definitely not a cpu issue considering peak processor speed has not been tampered with.
Just a thought but perhaps the FROYO Rom that you flashed has a fix in it for the problem with charging. In otherwords perhaps it is actually charging the whole battery. I haven't paid any attention to mine as to whether it is taking longer. I usually just charge while I sleep and then while I am in the car and sometimes at my desk if I plan to plug in for something I will just leave it plugged so I get more use of higher drain features when I go home. I noticed though that if you bump charge as recommended, (pre-update) I only did it once and saw little to no improvement, it took for ever. After I charged it to green, I turned it off and charged it to green, unplugged it plugged it back charged to green, and repeated until it was green when I first plugged in. Now it seems to me that the problem is a software/system issue so it would be plausible that a software solution could be developed. I haven't tried since I updated and the ROM I am currently using gives me the same battery life I had before but now I can leave GPS on all the time something I couldn't even think about with Stock everything.
So I may be wrong but it may be that it is taking longer to charge because it is actually charging the chunk of battery that it hadn't been charging before. Just a thought and since I am pretty sure I don't have the same ROM you have I won't venture to test and post results but perhaps you could.
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Just a thought but perhaps the FROYO Rom that you flashed has a fix in it for the problem with charging. In otherwords perhaps it is actually charging the whole battery. I haven't paid any attention to mine as to whether it is taking longer. I usually just charge while I sleep and then while I am in the car and sometimes at my desk if I plan to plug in for something I will just leave it plugged so I get more use of higher drain features when I go home. I noticed though that if you bump charge as recommended, (pre-update) I only did it once and saw little to no improvement, it took for ever. After I charged it to green, I turned it off and charged it to green, unplugged it plugged it back charged to green, and repeated until it was green when I first plugged in. Now it seems to me that the problem is a software/system issue so it would be plausible that a software solution could be developed. I haven't tried since I updated and the ROM I am currently using gives me the same battery life I had before but now I can leave GPS on all the time something I couldn't even think about with Stock everything.
So I may be wrong but it may be that it is taking longer to charge because it is actually charging the chunk of battery that it hadn't been charging before. Just a thought and since I am pretty sure I don't have the same ROM you have I won't venture to test and post results but perhaps you could.
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bump charging is still required by anyone on 2.2 so its not charging any more of the battery than what it used to, just a lot slower.
Agreed, it doesn't make bump charging any less required for "full" charge, also, this theory would mean we'd be getting significantly better battery life.... I most definitely was not.
It's possible they reduced the charger output to the battery to increase battery life/reduce heat while charging.
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It's possible they reduced the charger output to the battery to increase battery life/reduce heat while charging.
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if by battery life you mean overall battery health over time then yes, that is what i believe as well. also, these leaked froyo roms are all developmental, not final releases. im guessing that they may have tried a fix for battery issues but it didnt work out right in these roms so im hoping in the final release it will be truly fixed.
has anyone noticed that the battery stops charging after a while? it almost seems like the system is stopping the charge because its running for so long. anyone seen anything like this?
You need to run this app every time you flash a new rom to correct your batterystats.bin file. The batterystats is what dictates how long your phone should be on from the battery. This app deletes the .bin and allows it to be replaced thus conditioning your battery like you were supposed to do when you got the phone. Note: Doing this too many times without flashing a rom or without severe battery drain issues CAN shorten the life of your battery (I know from experience) So please don't do something stupid.
Instructions: Charge to 100%, Run the battery calibration, allow to die COMPLETELY and then recharge to a full 100% (no trickle charging)
Market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
It's free.
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recharge to a full 100% (no trickle charging)
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so it wont work right if I have an SBC kernel?
You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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It's free.
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You're free.
mattykinsx said:
You're free.
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Only for you Matty.
Indirect said:
You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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So we should not get a 10% battery drain from unplugging this if we do this correctly? or this will just prolong the battery life from 90-94% on after unplugging??
I've tried doing this but never 100% fully let it drain and then charged 100% lol...
And do you charge while phone is off? wait until green light comes on?
I'm still getting terrible battery life. 25% drained in 1 hour, and it's just idle with the display on at 50% and wifi/data connection enabled. I have a static background image and I don't have any fancy widgets or anything.
To give more detail, I'm running Synergy RLS-1 (no godmode) with aggressive freedom kernel. I have SetCPU with min/max 128/883.
Well, its going to be a quick drain until a few charge cycles ii got 24 percent drain in 2 hours then it leveled off for me.
Going on 18 hours of battery life if not more right now, I think this works since before, I only had 8-10 hours of moderate use.
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jbrawley1 said:
So we should not get a 10% battery drain from unplugging this if we do this correctly? or this will just prolong the battery life from 90-94% on after unplugging??
I've tried doing this but never 100% fully let it drain and then charged 100% lol...
And do you charge while phone is off? wait until green light comes on?
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I do all of this while the phone is on just to be sure there are no false stats entered. But I'm sure you can charge while it's off.
Update on my battery life: It's probably going to be roughly 19 hours until it dies. 7% and I have 18h 35m 17s So this shows that this works undoubtedly if done correctly.
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You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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This is an opinion.
I have used SBC for months now and its great.
No damage has been done.
johnylovejoy said:
This is an opinion.
I have used SBC for months now and its great.
No damage has been done.
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Agreed. Been using an SBC kernal since Feb and not a bit of damage or loss of battery life.
I've never met someone that won the lottery, doesn't mean people don't win the lottery.
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Well, its going to be a quick drain until a few charge cycles ii got 24 percent drain in 2 hours then it leveled off for me.
Going on 18 hours of battery life if not more right now, I think this works since before, I only had 8-10 hours of moderate use.
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Is it going to gradually increase with each charge cycle, or am I going to notice a big change eventually? I'm on my second cycle (after calibration) and it's still draining like mad. :\
I went a full 19 hours so you should notice a large change eventually if not, I think your battery might be bad?
Alright. I hope that's not the case!
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You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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No damage whatsoever.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
knowledge561 said:
No damage whatsoever.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
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And you base that on?
mattykinsx said:
And you base that on?
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Polls. Good day.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
knowledge561 said:
Polls. Good day.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
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I bet if I took a poll on here the overwhelming majority of people would click "no" to:
Do you know someone that has won the lottery?
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
The mere suggestion that because something hasn't happened to you, or that some online poll says it hasn't happened so it must not, is absurd. At best.
No, I'm not suggesting that SBC kernels cause phones to explode.
But there's a lot of data supporting the idea that they can cause long term damage.
Battery's are not supposed to be filled and kept at their maximum for a reason.
And that reason isn't because the manufacturer wants your battery to drop to 90% as soon as you take it off the charger.
As of Saturday evening, my phone will no longer charge past 88%. Earlier on Saturday, the phone was charged to 100% in my car. We lost power and the phone ran down to 3% before I was able to charge it again.
After charging over 8 hours, the phone would not go past 88%. Any ideas?
MacAlert said:
As of Saturday evening, my phone will no longer charge past 88%. Earlier on Saturday, the phone was charged to 100% in my car. We lost power and the phone ran down to 3% before I was able to charge it again.
After charging over 8 hours, the phone would not go past 88%. Any ideas?
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Have you tried to recalibrate the battery? Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16240746
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Have you tried to recalibrate the battery? Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16240746
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I have not tried that. Weird thing is, the battery calibration app reads 4196mV at 70% while charging and ~4200 while at 88%.
Just go to CWM recovery and wipe battery stats. Do a few charge recharge cycle. It should be OK.
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anupash said:
Just go to CWM recovery and wipe battery stats. Do a few charge recharge cycle. It should be OK.
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Yup wiping the battery stats in cwm will do the trick
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Charge to 88% or until you notice it not going any further. Turn off the phone. Plug in the charger and wait until the battery display shows. While the phone is still plugged in, remove the battery. Wait for it to boot up and show a no battery icon (or something like that). Once it does, put the battery back in and leave it for about 30 mins. When you hit the volume buttons, the display will show between 5-10% charged. Anyway, after about 30 mins, turn the phone one and it should show 100%. Re-calibrate the battery after that using the app or recovery.
Are all android batteries like this? I've never had a device with such finicky battery stats. I too have the 88% problem and i feel like im recalibrating every week. I will try again.
s1mpd1ddy said:
Are all android batteries like this? I've never had a device with such finicky battery stats. I too have the 88% problem and i feel like im recalibrating every week. I will try again.
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I don't think they're all like this..but I know its as annoying as F***. Every morning almost i'm doing the "battery pop out" trick just so that it'll read full. It would be different if it read 95% or something and stuck there for awhile until the battery caught up to the actual reading..but it doesn't. The battery continues to drain at a normal rate, so you basically lose however many % you had initially.
Definately annoying..
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I don't think they're all like this..but I know its as annoying as F***. Every morning almost i'm doing the "battery pop out" trick just so that it'll read full. It would be different if it read 95% or something and stuck there for awhile until the battery caught up to the actual reading..but it doesn't. The battery continues to drain at a normal rate, so you basically lose however many % you had initially.
Definately annoying..
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so you're having to do the pop-out trick every day? that's definitely not something you should have to do....... what gives with our battery?
Mine did this before and what I did was run it all the way to 0% and it cuts of and will not start, then charge it to 100% with the power off and and then boot it up. Work like a charm for me.
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Mine did this before and what I did was run it all the way to 0% and it cuts of and will not start, then charge it to 100% with the power off and and then boot it up. Work like a charm for me.
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Same, friends atrix wouldn't get past 86%, calibration app didn't work and neither did wiping bat stats. Draining however did fix but damn was it slow. 6+ hours to reach 100%
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ChongoDroid said:
Same, friends atrix wouldn't get past 86%, calibration app didn't work and neither did wiping bat stats. Draining however did fix but damn was it slow. 6+ hours to reach 100%
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do you have the same battery issues on your galaxy?
So I've been sitting at 1% for the past hour. Been playing games, have wifi, bluetooth, GPS all turned on.
Thing will just not turn off!
EDIT: Right as soon as I post this, it turns off. Over 1 hour on 1%.
Will recharge tonight and hopefully it works right.
I had this problem for a while but you should know that it will fix itself eventually. The phone is fully capable of re-learning the limits of the battery and after several days will begin to display the correct charging status. Mine took about a week to start displaying 99% in the morning.
This happened after I did the complete discharge, charge, pull battery, charge again, then boot procedure. It was fine for a couple of days then started displaying 82% as a full charge then slowly got better. I'm fairly confident that I'm not leaving anything on the table in terms of capacity either since with moderate use and turning off wifi when I leave the house I'm getting about two days of charge.
Sounds like a jumping battery problem to me.
1. Click on this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174349&highlight=battery+fix
2. Download juggernault's jumping battery fix.
3. Follow the instructions there
4. if it solves your problem, thank the dude for his contribution to the Atrix community and also leave him a comment to thank him.
heres what you need to do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ehvLLmEIg
Already have juggernaults battery fix applied. Thinking this is just some freak occurrence.
EDIT: Drained the battery at work. Charged since 6:30 while powered off and phone charged past 88%. All is well in Atrixland!
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Already have juggernaults battery fix applied. Thinking this is just some freak occurrence.
EDIT: Drained the battery at work. Charged since 6:30 while powered off and phone charged past 88%. All is well in Atrixland!
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Not a freak occurrence. Happens to me too all the time.. makes me not wanna flash anything . I jump charged my phone to 100 today. Did battery pull, wiped stats and calibrated
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s1mpd1ddy said:
do you have the same battery issues on your galaxy?
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No none, I had battery drain but it was kernel related. I get a days worth of heavy usage out of mine now.
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Figured I'd follow up. After doing all this ... first recharge went to 98. Second recharge overnight.. 85 Max. WTF
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