For everyone with battery drain issues - EVO 4G General

You need to run this app every time you flash a new rom to correct your batterystats.bin file. The batterystats is what dictates how long your phone should be on from the battery. This app deletes the .bin and allows it to be replaced thus conditioning your battery like you were supposed to do when you got the phone. Note: Doing this too many times without flashing a rom or without severe battery drain issues CAN shorten the life of your battery (I know from experience) So please don't do something stupid.
Instructions: Charge to 100%, Run the battery calibration, allow to die COMPLETELY and then recharge to a full 100% (no trickle charging)
Market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
It's free.

Indirect said:
recharge to a full 100% (no trickle charging)
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so it wont work right if I have an SBC kernel?

You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.

Indirect said:
It's free.
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You're free.

mattykinsx said:
You're free.
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Only for you Matty.

Indirect said:
You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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So we should not get a 10% battery drain from unplugging this if we do this correctly? or this will just prolong the battery life from 90-94% on after unplugging??
I've tried doing this but never 100% fully let it drain and then charged 100% lol...
And do you charge while phone is off? wait until green light comes on?

I'm still getting terrible battery life. 25% drained in 1 hour, and it's just idle with the display on at 50% and wifi/data connection enabled. I have a static background image and I don't have any fancy widgets or anything.
To give more detail, I'm running Synergy RLS-1 (no godmode) with aggressive freedom kernel. I have SetCPU with min/max 128/883.

Well, its going to be a quick drain until a few charge cycles ii got 24 percent drain in 2 hours then it leveled off for me.
Going on 18 hours of battery life if not more right now, I think this works since before, I only had 8-10 hours of moderate use.
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jbrawley1 said:
So we should not get a 10% battery drain from unplugging this if we do this correctly? or this will just prolong the battery life from 90-94% on after unplugging??
I've tried doing this but never 100% fully let it drain and then charged 100% lol...
And do you charge while phone is off? wait until green light comes on?
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I do all of this while the phone is on just to be sure there are no false stats entered. But I'm sure you can charge while it's off.

Update on my battery life: It's probably going to be roughly 19 hours until it dies. 7% and I have 18h 35m 17s So this shows that this works undoubtedly if done correctly.

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You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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This is an opinion.
I have used SBC for months now and its great.
No damage has been done.

johnylovejoy said:
This is an opinion.
I have used SBC for months now and its great.
No damage has been done.
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Agreed. Been using an SBC kernal since Feb and not a bit of damage or loss of battery life.

I've never met someone that won the lottery, doesn't mean people don't win the lottery.

Indirect said:
Well, its going to be a quick drain until a few charge cycles ii got 24 percent drain in 2 hours then it leveled off for me.
Going on 18 hours of battery life if not more right now, I think this works since before, I only had 8-10 hours of moderate use.
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Is it going to gradually increase with each charge cycle, or am I going to notice a big change eventually? I'm on my second cycle (after calibration) and it's still draining like mad. :\

I went a full 19 hours so you should notice a large change eventually if not, I think your battery might be bad?

Alright. I hope that's not the case!

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You shouldn't need an SBC kernel if you are planning on doing this. However it should still work, just make sure it's at a full 100% oh and also, SBC damages your battery after prolonged use.
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No damage whatsoever.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!

knowledge561 said:
No damage whatsoever.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
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And you base that on?

mattykinsx said:
And you base that on?
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Polls. Good day.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!

knowledge561 said:
Polls. Good day.
Sugar, Spice, and everything Nice!!!
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I bet if I took a poll on here the overwhelming majority of people would click "no" to:
Do you know someone that has won the lottery?
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
The mere suggestion that because something hasn't happened to you, or that some online poll says it hasn't happened so it must not, is absurd. At best.
No, I'm not suggesting that SBC kernels cause phones to explode.
But there's a lot of data supporting the idea that they can cause long term damage.
Battery's are not supposed to be filled and kept at their maximum for a reason.
And that reason isn't because the manufacturer wants your battery to drop to 90% as soon as you take it off the charger.

Related

Battery tracker

Whats the best program to see what had been eating up your battery?
The Android operating system.
Settings >> About Phone >> Battery >> Battery Use
Everything is normal in there yet in an hour by battery went from 100% to 84% on regaw 1.3.1
DirtyShroomz said:
Everything is normal in there yet in an hour by battery went from 100% to 84% on regaw 1.3.1
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My batter seems to go from 100% to 85% every day in a very quick manner. However, after that, it slows down. Maybe it is just the behavior of this battery (or the software that measures it).
Regardless, even with that, I get 12-14 hours (with moderate usage) before I get the 15% warning.
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My batter seems to go from 100% to 85% every day in a very quick manner. However, after that, it slows down. Maybe it is just the behavior of this battery (or the software that measures it).
Regardless, even with that, I get 12-14 hours (with moderate usage) before I get the 15% warning.
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this is EXACTLY how my batt performs
revlayle said:
My batter seems to go from 100% to 85% every day in a very quick manner. However, after that, it slows down. Maybe it is just the behavior of this battery (or the software that measures it).
Regardless, even with that, I get 12-14 hours (with moderate usage) before I get the 15% warning.
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I noticed that as well, ill keep a close eye on it again today, i do have very heavy use
spare parts is helpful as well
If you're running a 2.1 ROM:
Don't forget to change the Network Mode to "CDMA Auto (PRL)". Do this by dialing "*#*#4636#*#*", and then pressing Phone Information. Even if it is already set to CDMA Auto (PRL), press it anyway.
Try using a 2.1 with a tweaked memkiller. It'll help to kill off apps that are still running and using battery. I usually get about 2 days of battery out of my phone while using TrevE's MOD.
I think the battery discharge curve that dictates battery level is off in the 85-100% range on these phones.
why dont people buy a 2000mah battery?
ebartolon said:
why dont people buy a 2000mah battery?
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chicks dig it
if you charge over night first thing in the morning do something to get it down to 99% then plug in charger again, i find my phone will charge for a good 15-20 minutes and the battery drops much slower
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Everything is normal in there yet in an hour by battery went from 100% to 84% on regaw 1.3.1
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i had the same issue. download spare parts (as was mentioned earlier) and check 'partial wake usage'. sprint's voicemail was keeping my phone awake for some reason. i ditched it and have great battery life now. google voice all the way...
What is this TrevE Mod?

cyanogen six sucks the battery life

My battery life on cyanogen six is down right awful. Every day I charge it at night and when I go to bed even if I don't use it its at 15%
Isn't there anything I can do?
Macmee said:
My battery life on cyanogen six is down right awful. Every day I charge it at night and when I go to bed even if I don't use it its at 15%
Isn't there anything I can do?
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Its not cyanogen 6. i have a 4ma drain when the phone is sleeping. thats less then a 1 % a hour
wsrider said:
Its not cyanogen 6. i have a 4ma drain when the phone is sleeping. thats less then a 1 % a hour
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I, as well, see about a 1%/hour drain when my phone is not in use.
Usually, unruly battery drain is due to a rouge application you have installed.
I'm getting better than ever battery life on CM6.
Try charging all the way, reboot into recovery, wipe battery stats, charge all the way again.
I'm getting better than ever battery life on CM6.
Try charging all the way, reboot into recovery, wipe battery stats, charge all the way again.
danguyf said:
I'm getting better than ever battery life on CM6.
Try charging all the way, reboot into recovery, wipe battery stats, charge all the way again.
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I did something similar... I got it to warning (15%) and then erased battery stats... I then ran my my phone until it died and died again... after that it shouldn't get past boot if so then proceed to boot it into bootloader. The bootloaders white screen should drain back up battery quickly so only leave it on for only 2-3 mins. Charge it fully powered off and enjoy 15+ hours uptime!
my battery sucks ass too it was never like this before??? kernel??? could a different kernel fix this issue..if so which is the best please be specific so many kernel to choose if any...please help..thanks!
does the phone radio matter because im using the 5.8.4 i believe..
xghostyxjokerx said:
my battery sucks ass too it was never like this before??? kernel??? could a different kernel fix this issue..if so which is the best please be specific so many kernel to choose if any...please help..thanks!
does the phone radio matter because im using the 5.8.4 i believe..
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cyan 6 has had terrible battery life for me. so i switched back to leofroyo latest beta rom and got back my 3hr/% standby battery life. with widgets and email checking every 30 minutes. i'm down to 2hr/% in standby. usually in a day i lose 25% battery life with mild internet use and calling. i charge my phone every two days. can't beat that.
Try manually closing all applications & services that are not vital to your phone, then test over a day or two. If that doesn't work, try a different kernel.
Okay I've had about enough of this. It goes down to 15% every day EVEN IF I DON'T USE IT AT ALL
Could someone recommend me the best battery life rom in town, even if it's the stock one?
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Okay I've had about enough of this. It goes down to 15% every day EVEN IF I DON'T USE IT AT ALL
Could someone recommend me the best battery life rom in town, even if it's the stock one?
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This one is good. Best in town is hard to judge, but a lot of people enjoy the battery and stability:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Try blackbar v6.1 or stockbar v6.1. Those are the FRF91 build. I haven't tried the FRG33 but it's probably pretty great as well. The first post lists the changes from stock.
I'm fighting with battery life too, but problem is not when in standby where it uses less than 1% per hour, but actually using it (browsing) you can see battery lose 1% every two minutes... is it like that for you guys also? Really frustrating me...
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ChongoDroid said:
I did something similar... I got it to warning (15%) and then erased battery stats... I then ran my my phone until it died and died again... after that it shouldn't get past boot if so then proceed to boot it into bootloader. The bootloaders white screen should drain back up battery quickly so only leave it on for only 2-3 mins. Charge it fully powered off and enjoy 15+ hours uptime!
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Don't do this. Draining lithium ion batteries to completely dead is one off the worst things you can do to those batteries. It kills off their capacity
Charge to full, turn off phone and charge again until led turns green again, then boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
15 hour uptime is average not excellent
Rellikzephyr
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adambenjamin said:
This one is good. Best in town is hard to judge, but a lot of people enjoy the battery and stability:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714184
Try blackbar v6.1 or stockbar v6.1. Those are the FRF91 build. I haven't tried the FRG33 but it's probably pretty great as well. The first post lists the changes from stock.
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This is an excellent ROM. i've used it until i switched over to LeoFroyo. They both use the stock kernel and in my opinion i think its th best.
i also like to downclock the processor down to 800mhz with setcpu. definitely helps with the battery drain while using the phone. Non of those 925mv kernels help out in my experience.
Well I run go chat and msn constantly, I use 40 percent display, wifi, 3g, sync, etc and its about double the length I got when it was stock. Right now at 12% and I'm at 16 hours and 32 minutes! I wipe battery stats every time I flash a new radio also it seems to help
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Used cm6 for ages till i tried enom's.. i got from an avg of 14hrs of battery life(cm6) to an avg of 26hrs (enom).. all with very heavy usage...
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Used cm6 for ages till i tried enom's.. i got from an avg of 14hrs of battery life(cm6) to an avg of 26hrs (enom).. all with very heavy usage...
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This is way better battery life than what I get on Enom's, but I get consistantly 14hours to about 15% and I use my phone a LOT.
Really eh... Well il be sure to check out some new enoms! I'm feeling this nxsense too 13 hour first day not bad for porky sense
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Heavy for me means more than 3 hours on the screen being on... as im constantly using my nexus... i just cant put the thing down for a min.. and yeap enom's rom with wildmonks kernel really helps the battery..
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This is way better battery life than what I get on Enom's, but I get consistantly 14hours to about 15% and I use my phone a LOT.
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same here on enoms. battery drain on cm6 was one of the main reasons i jumped ship to enoms

Unique Battery problem

Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
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Sorry to start another thread on battery issues but I was unable to find a scenario like mine.
Hey everybody, Im new to the android scene, just got my vibrant less than a month ago. Before that I had an Iphone 3g. So far I like the phone but the battery life is horrible. When I surf the internet on wifi or 3g I noticed that I use like 3-5% in a matter of 5 mins. Is this normal? I consider myself to be a light-moderate user and have been getting and average of 12 hours or so on my vibrant. Also if it makes any difference when my phone is idle or being used my temperature runs around the high 80's low 90's but when being charged it drops to the low 80's or high 70's. What is going on? How can I get more 20 hours on my phone? With the iphone I used to get an easy 15 hours and still have like 40-50% remaining.
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Try a different rom?
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
Thanks burntrat I guess ill be patient. And I must mention that I am running stock.i was just worried because my battery temperature gets colder when charging and warmer when idle or running.
burntrat said:
When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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Hey burntrat or anybody, has your battery ever acted sort of schizophrenic on you? I mean one day I leave it on standby and its drains like 1% in 7-10 hours another day I leave it on standby and it drains 18% in about 4 hours. Whats going on?
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It happens
If ur super concerned get these 2 apps
~juice defender
~ super power
My battery has been draining inconsistently lately. It drains faster in the 50-100% level. Under 50%, it feels like it drains slower while doing the same stuff.
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It happens
If ur super concerned get these 2 apps
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Juice defender doesnt work for me, but ill have to try superpower, anyways I just feel that its weird that without anything changing, my battery drains differently on different days. Burntrat I think thats normal for every phone, the last 50% always seem to drain slower.
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if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
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if your phone is draining a lot during standby or sleeping. There may be a rogue app out there or an app that didnt shut down properly. (I guess that would mean a rogue app)
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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nope task manager shows everything as clear, and if I have a rogue app why is it acting up one day and not the other? Btw it seems to skip a daybetween bad battery life
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I had the same problem, stock task manger doesn't show all of the apps.
Check ur services, go to settings apps manage apps running applications.
Or instead of that I brought the advanced task killer back to check on things
@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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@aamir123 and burntrat: maybe you guys need to calibrate your battery? Also the stock rom usually has a lot of bloatware running in the background. Flashing a custom rom oughta do the trick.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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Try this. Download the system panel app from the market. You can set it to monitor your system and it will chart what applications are running and how much they are using the cpu. If you find you have some unnecessary bloatware running in the background download titanium backup and freeze those apps.
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How do you recalibrate the battery?
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There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
Oh, and its better if you don't download too many apps that monitor battery usage, cpu etc. cuz they will contribute to the battery consumption.
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There are a lot of different ways mentioned in different forums. Try this:
Let your battery drain all the way to the point when it turns off by itself.
Charge it while its off until its full.
Unplug it, turn the phone on, then plug it in again.
After it reaches 100, unplug the charger and turn your phone off.
Once off, plug it in and let the charging complete.
Once complete, unplug it and turn the phone on. When everything has loaded, turn the phone off (note: no charging involved in this step.)
After it turns off, charge it one last time until 100%. After this, go into recovery and clear battery info (or cache, I forget). There you go
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It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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When the phone turns off by itself, the battery still has some juice left in it to prevent it from losing the ability to charge, if that's what you meant by not a good idea cuz its lithium ion. If thats not what you meant, then please explain why.
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When I first got the vibrant, it had pretty bad battery life, I would lose like 25% while sleeping 8-10 hrs. So light usage would be like a day. Slowly I started to get longer battery life (2 days on light usage). Recently I could get up to like 3.5 days on real light usage. After updating to JI6, max I can get now is like 3 days. I didn't really do much and I tripled my battery life by just giving it time.
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Agreed. In my case, I barely lasted 12 hours on moderate use with any of the JI6 2.1 ROMS (Eugene's, Bionix, Fusion, etc). I think after I updated to 2.2, all of the ROMS have been giving me 18+ hours on moderate-heavy use no matter what modem or kernel I use.
So where is the "unique" problem?
jimmynguyen91 said:
It isn't a good idea to let your battery drain all the way to zero since it is lithium ion. I think skipping that part and just charging it when it's on to full, then off to full, then on to full, then off to full and then wiping battery stats would suffice. Also you need to have clockwork recovery to wipe battery stats.
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This is true.
Try this, it helPed, me get like 10 more hours.
Charge till 100.
Shut down
Plug in usb until the green battery shows up and says completed our something.
Reboot
Charge for5 minutes.
Reboot
Done.

If You are experiencing a 10% Battery Drop Click here

Hello everyone, I have been reading a lot about people experiencing a random 10% battery drop after charging they're phones. some people have said duh! your not using an SBC kernel. well i'm not using an SBC kernel and i have found a solution to this problem. i will post my solution as well as two other solutions i have found but i personally do not use:
when you charge your battery mainly over night, by the time you wake up you battery says 100% and then shortly after it starts dropping until it hits 85% - 90% battery.
My solution - after your phone has dropped, reboot your phone. after you reboot it charge it again until it's at 100%. now you should be good to go.
if you are not good to go here are some other solutions that might work.
1 - charge your phone while it's turned off
2 - charge your phone to 100% while it's on then turn it off until you see a green light. once you have seen a green light turn it back on and charge it again until it's at 100% battery.
if none of these work calibrate your phone and try any of these steps again. i use an app called Battery Calibrator. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.liteup.calibratebattery&feature=search_result
I could be wrong, but I thought that your battery stops charging once you reach 100%.. and then lets the battery drop down to 90% before it kicks in and starts charging again.
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I could be wrong, but I thought that your battery stops charging once you reach 100%.. and then lets the battery drop down to 90% before it kicks in and starts charging again.
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You are correct. There a hundreds of posts with dozens of fixes for this. What he is stating has been talked about for months, just not recently as everybody knows about it already.
thanks for the advice
I have a question regarding this issue, hopefully someones got an answer. If I dont use an sbc kernel, I get 10-11% drop in the first 10 minutes off charge. I put my phone on charge at about midnight and take it off at about 5-6 am. If my phone takes 2 hours to charge fully then how in the hell does it drop 10% in that extra 3-4 hours while the screen is off and its still plugged in? I understand that it stops at 100% and then drops to 90%, but why does it drop to 90% so fast?
Yep, when I wake up in the morning I take my phone of of the charger. Then I check my messages, look at my tweets and plug it back in. I go eat breakfast, get ready for work, and by that time my phone has charged back up to 100%. I then take my phone off of the charger and it has a full charge with no drop.
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I have a question regarding this issue, hopefully someones got an answer. If I dont use an sbc kernel, I get 10-11% drop in the first 10 minutes off charge. I put my phone on charge at about midnight and take it off at about 5-6 am. If my phone takes 2 hours to charge fully then how in the hell does it drop 10% in that extra 3-4 hours while the screen is off and its still plugged in? I understand that it stops at 100% and then drops to 90%, but why does it drop to 90% so fast?
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I think its the natural discharge rate of the lithium ion battery. Even though its not being used by the EVO, the battery is still discharging because of the internal circuitry and how batteries operate. I'm probably wrong though lol.
xcpefrmreality said:
I have a question regarding this issue, hopefully someones got an answer. If I dont use an sbc kernel, I get 10-11% drop in the first 10 minutes off charge. I put my phone on charge at about midnight and take it off at about 5-6 am. If my phone takes 2 hours to charge fully then how in the hell does it drop 10% in that extra 3-4 hours while the screen is off and its still plugged in? I understand that it stops at 100% and then drops to 90%, but why does it drop to 90% so fast?
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if you use an sbc kernel then your phone charges to the full 100%, however that is not good for the battery. it can kill your battery really fast or it can last a while so without sbc when you charge your phone to 100% it really isn't charged to the full 100%. which is the diff between sbc and non-sbc
Green_Arrow said:
if you use an sbc kernel then your phone charges to the full 100%, however that is not good for the battery. it can kill your battery really fast or it can last a while so without sbc when you charge your phone to 100% it really isn't charged to the full 100%. which is the diff between sbc and non-sbc
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Not really. With a stock kernel, the phone will charge to 100% then will stop charging and will let the battery drop to 90% and then start charging again. But, the actual phone doesn't show the drops back down to 90%, it will always show 100%. On an SBC kernel, the phone charges to 100% and then trickle charges to keep it at 100%.
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Not really. With a stock kernel, the phone will charge to 100% then will stop charging and will let the battery drop to 90% and then start charging again. But, the actual phone doesn't show the drops back down to 90%, it will always show 100%. On an SBC kernel, the phone charges to 100% and then trickle charges to keep it at 100%.
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but i've also heard on a stock phone when you'r low on batt. like 30% below your batt. begins to drop semi-faster than normal so would that be the same as the 10% drop? just the for us we see it immediately?
Green_Arrow said:
but i've also heard on a stock phone when you'r low on batt. like 30% below your batt. begins to drop semi-faster than normal so would that be the same as the 10% drop? just the for us we see it immediately?
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Not the same from what I have read. I had the same issue with stock on my EVO 4G where the last 20-30 percent of battery was horrific. I rooted and did a battery calibration and it corrected my issue.
I will try this out
tgruendler said:
Not the same from what I have read. I had the same issue with stock on my EVO 4G where the last 20-30 percent of battery was horrific. I rooted and did a battery calibration and it corrected my issue.
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exactly but w/o rooting and calibrating it, it sucked in the last 30%
Blaster0007 said:
I will try this out
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let me know how it goes ^_^
Green_Arrow said:
if you use an sbc kernel then your phone charges to the full 100%, however that is not good for the battery. it can kill your battery really fast or it can last a while so without sbc when you charge your phone to 100% it really isn't charged to the full 100%. which is the diff between sbc and non-sbc
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That's total bull. It does not harm the battery or the phone at all ever. Also, your miracle solution is a year an half old, welcome to late June 2010...
MCL1981 said:
That's total bull. It does not harm the battery or the phone at all ever. Also, your miracle solution is a year an half old, welcome to late June 2010...
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From an electronic standpoint, you can't say it doesn't hurt the battery but making it retain a charge it was designed to drop. But yes, there really isn't need for the "scare" that was associated with sbc long ago, as the methods have been refined, and haven't heard an 'sbc war story' in some time now.
teh roxxorz said:
From an electronic standpoint, you can't say it doesn't hurt the battery but making it retain a charge it was designed to drop.
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And you can't say it does hurt the battery either. And given there is no evidence whatsoever of it hurting it.....
teh roxxorz said:
From an electronic standpoint, you can't say it doesn't hurt the battery but making it retain a charge it was designed to drop. But yes, there really isn't need for the "scare" that was associated with sbc long ago, as the methods have been refined, and haven't heard an 'sbc war story' in some time now.
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so is there no downside now to using sbc?
I have been using sbc on my seidio 3500 battery since it was introduced. Except for a month when I started using Synergy. No drop in usage time at first but over that month my battery went to ****.
I have since installed boot manager and have Synergy as my main ROM, and at night i switch to Warm 2.2 rls5 with a netarchy sbc kernel and charge using that. Which is now every other day. My battery is still going strong and lasting as long as ever.
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Green_Arrow said:
so is there no downside now to using sbc?
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Nope. None that I'm aware of or have experienced.

restarting repeatedly harmful?

so I bought the phone few days ago and the first thing I did was to empty the battery as advised, at about 20 % I was sleepy as hell and I wanted to drain the battery faster so the first thing came to my mind (and I regret that) was restarting the phone repeatedly so it would drain very fast , and I blindly did so , what a stupid idea! I did an approximate number of 15 restarts I guess with about 2 mins between each restart, sooo I am ready to take the consequences so what are they? what should I expect for the next few days? battery failure,cpu failure, ram failure, or even software failure?? the first 2 things I notice the battery now drain a little bit faster and the phone gets warmer faster than before
I don't think this will cause any harm at all. It's not like the phone takes a voltage surge during start up.
OTOH, there's no benefit to "conditioning" a lithium ion battery. If anything, it's counterproductive. Li batteries don't like being fully discharged or overcharged. Keep it between 25% and 75% as much as possible, and it will last the longest.
meyerweb said:
I don't think this will cause any harm at all. It's not like the phone takes a voltage surge during start up.
OTOH, there's no benefit to "conditioning" a lithium ion battery. If anything, it's counterproductive. Li batteries don't like being fully discharged or overcharged. Keep it between 25% and 75% as much as possible, and it will last the longest.
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OMG thank u so much I was so worried cos I have a bad history of damaging and breaking stuff especially electronic stuff so u don't recommend me to fully charge it? 75% for maximum?? and rebooting is it safe in general?
Charging it fully won't really hurt anything. The phone's circuitry won't let the battery overcharge. But the battery will probably have a slightly longer life if it doesn't get charged to 100% all the time. Battery life is good enough that I can generally take mine off the charger at around 75% and can still get a full day out of it. But if I leave it on to 100% I don't worry about it. And if you like to charge yours overnight and it always goes to 100%, don't worry about that, either.
And yes, it's perfectly fine to reboot the phone. I generally reboot mine every couple of weeks. It seems to clear out some of the stuff that builds up in memory and runs a little smoother.
No, but draining the battery does, especially draining it fast.
When will these stupid myths about a totally different and obsolete battery technology die?
meyerweb said:
Charging it fully won't really hurt anything. The phone's circuitry won't let the battery overcharge. But the battery will probably have a slightly longer life if it doesn't get charged to 100% all the time. Battery life is good enough that I can generally take mine off the charger at around 75% and can still get a full day out of it. But if I leave it on to 100% I don't worry about it. And if you like to charge yours overnight and it always goes to 100%, don't worry about that, either.
And yes, it's perfectly fine to reboot the phone. I generally reboot mine every couple of weeks. It seems to clear out some of the stuff that builds up in memory and runs a little smoother.
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thank u for the information, I appreciate ur help
jacobgong said:
No, but draining the battery does, especially draining it fast.
When will these stupid myths about a totally different and obsolete battery technology die?
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now I believe it's a myth too, but hey aren't some apps like games considered as battery-hungry apps? they drain batteries so fast too!!
I hope this is a joke..
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jack1001 said:
now I believe it's a myth too, but hey aren't some apps like games considered as battery-hungry apps? they drain batteries so fast too!!
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Lithium-ion batteries degrade predictably throughout usage cycles, so the more you use them the more you reduce their total capacity. They're also more vulnerable to such degradation while under high temperatures, like when you drain them very fast by restarting the device. And yes, also if you're playing games. Obviously there's no point in getting a nice phone if you're not even gonna use it, but you can choose to spend those battery cycles on meaningful usage like playing games, rather than pointlessly restarting the device.
This is a classic example of thinking too hard. Just use and enjoy the phone and charge it when it needs charging.
Brava27 said:
I hope this is a joke..
Sent from my Star-Tac
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unfortunately it's not, but what is ironic? the question itsels or what I did?
daz_2000 said:
This is a classic example of thinking too hard. Just use and enjoy the phone and charge it when it needs charging.
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sensible words,I will,thank you

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