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3.1 out already wow!

http://hothardware.com/News/Android-Honeycomb-31-Comes-To-The-Asus-Eee-Pad-Transformer/
Wow according to this website Asus transformer has 3.1!!!!
Hopefully Acer A500 gets it soon

Looks like they got hold of a little pre-release action. At the end it says "We're told this update will be available to the public in the near future." Come on Acer!

I wouldn't hold my breath for the update, especially since it's coming from Acer.

Google provided to the OEM... and it's up to the individual (Acer) to tweak it to their device...who know how Acer is handling this ( timewise )
interestingly...on one of the picture...it show that Asus uses the same kernel as our Acer...
Kernel 2.6.36.3-00001-gf377a2b
http://hothardware.com/newsimages/item17461/big_android3.jpg
That could pose a potential with our Acer updates as the recent confusion shown with recent updates, they are getting rid of the part after the number to shorten form --->> 2.6.36.3
here we go again !!

why is everyone so quick to assume Acer won't give timely updates? The iconias only been out for a month here, and its already received one bug update, and they already stated that 3.1 is coming in june. Patience is a very important virtue. ;-)

dr1337 said:
I wouldn't hold my breath for the update, especially since it's coming from Acer.
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I believe everything i have seen about a 3.1 update timeline is first week or 2 of June, Seems timely to me...
At least you can find the acer in stores....

lord_voldemort666 said:
why is everyone so quick to assume Acer won't give timely updates? The iconias only been out for a month here, and its already received one bug update, and they already stated that 3.1 is coming in june. Patience is a very important virtue. ;-)
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THANK YOU! I don't get how people are so nuts about updates

dr1337 said:
I wouldn't hold my breath for the update, especially since it's coming from Acer.
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https://www.facebook.com/Acer

hlaalu said:
THANK YOU! I don't get how people are so nuts about updates
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Entitlement issues, product envy, buyers remorse. God forbid another device get an update before the A500...it seems.
Happy with mine. Hope 3.1 does big things, but really happy with mine so far.

Yea i love my acer and they anounced it would be out first half of june, chill out.

Acer FB page says 3.1 will be available at the end of June.
I've only bought one Acer product and they've done alright by me so far. I've had it 3 weeks and already one update. That's light-years better than Samsung/T-mobile with the Galaxy phones.

soild update not a rushed one
OK this update will come when its complete and not full of bugs and fixes.from what I have heard we have less bugs then most of those tabs and better connectivity then the others.
Acer. We need a User end user recovery.one that does not make us leave out tablets stock.where. we can install and del the apps we want ina piece of hardware we paid for.
So unlock bootloader or atlest give a recovery method. That does not require me tobsend my tab in for recovery.
In afraid to install apps because of compatibility. Seinfeld im past my exchange date
Play nice Acer I know you watch this forum.
Im good at selling on ebay

the 18 month rule
Acer will give us the updates timely, the 18 month rule is there also for google to see who is good at releasing updates and keeping products up to date. If acer does not update in a timely manner. I can only assume that acer will not get early builds of new OS's. There fore shutting them out of the tablet game.

BrianDigital said:
Acer will give us the updates timely, the 18 month rule is there also for google to see who is good at releasing updates and keeping products up to date. If acer does not update in a timely manner. I can only assume that acer will not get early builds of new OS's. There fore shutting them out of the tablet game.
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Does the 18 month rule apply to ACER? They were not a listed partner of Google on the 18 month support slide.... although everyone else was.

"Great news for the lucky owners of Acer Iconia Tab A500! The update to Android 3.1 will be available at the end of June!"
Also, I'm waiting for proper mouse support still. :|
And, can we title our threads a bit better guys? You got my hopes up.

Looks like those lucky bastards with the Asus have already got a leaked build of 3.1
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...er-modaco-com/340629/3-1-update-is-available/

3.1 has been available for the Xoom before the Xformer - 3.1 is just around the corner for the A500. Acer was recently highlighted as a close partner with Google at their recent I/O Conference so future upgrades are without doubt.

dr1337 said:
I wouldn't hold my breath for the update, especially since it's coming from Acer.
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Please, stop with disinformation. Acer just came out with this tablet and a month or so later we all just got this great update. Now 3.1 is coming. You act as if they should personally call you every day for your approval. This tablet is great and updates have come. Why complain about what they just released which really enhanced everything for this tablet? You disinformation agents get to me because you are so easy to spot. Always complaining even when the company does things right.

lord_voldemort666 said:
why is everyone so quick to assume Acer won't give timely updates? The iconias only been out for a month here, and its already received one bug update, and they already stated that 3.1 is coming in june. Patience is a very important virtue. ;-)
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It is because they mostly work for the competition. They get people to be dissatisfied with their purchase. Then you buy their products instead. Manufacturers are all over forums like these pushing one product down while promoting other products which are usually their competing products lol. Happens a lot. Ymmv here.

dr1337 said:
Looks like those lucky bastards with the Asus have already got a leaked build of 3.1
http://android.modaco.com/content/a...er-modaco-com/340629/3-1-update-is-available/
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Stop trolling Dr. You seem to be pushing Asus in an Acer forum. Suggest you take your trolling activities there.

Android 3.2 coming!

ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376

Great news, thanks.

jhanford said:
ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot

Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.

Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.

Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.

Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).

good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware

Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?

I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D

great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!

stdlyman3k said:
I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.

brando56894 said:
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.

but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)

jhanford said:
I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....

dazz87 said:
Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre

turbulent28 said:
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)

Acer A500 16gb $299 at staples 11/13 Only.

For those who are looking to buy an A500. Staples will have them on sale for $299 on 11/13. Looks like it is in store only.
LINK
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Sorry but it looks like this sale is by invitation only Link

I may be retarded, but that says it's a black friday sneak preview. What's it have to do with 11/13?

lbhocky19 said:
I may be retarded, but that says it's a black friday sneak preview. What's it have to do with 11/13?
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See my edited post above....

I just bought one on eBay for $250
What do you guys think?

They're all going to drop in price when the T2 releases with ICS! (next month)

So is paying $250 too much for it?
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edward.hidalgo said:
So is paying $250 too much for it?
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That's a question only you can answer. Is it worth $250.00 to you?

edward.hidalgo said:
I just bought one on eBay for $250
What do you guys think?
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A500 or A100? New or used? Warranty? I think you're asking how it compares to the current selling price? With more info you can get an answer to your question.

kjy2010 said:
They're all going to drop in price when the T2 releases with ICS! (next month)
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by T2 you mean Transformer 2 right? which is actually the Transformer Prime, and not launching with ICS. But like every other tablet, getting ICS soon
But yeah, the price on ALL tablets are going to be dropping soon anyway. With updated models coming out and Christmas sales, not to mention the impending ICS release, tablets are going to be a hot item this holiday shopping season. I may even pick up another one if I find a good enough deal

Bloodflame said:
by T2 you mean Transformer 2 right? which is actually the Transformer Prime, and not launching with ICS. But like every other tablet, getting ICS soon
But yeah, the price on ALL tablets are going to be dropping soon anyway. With updated models coming out and Christmas sales, not to mention the impending ICS release, tablets are going to be a hot item this holiday shopping season. I may even pick up another one if I find a good enough deal
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Do you not keep up?
The T Prime was delayed so it WILL launch with ICS
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...-prime-release-date-slides-to-december-31466/

kjy2010 said:
Do you not keep up?
The T Prime was delayed so it WILL launch with ICS
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...-prime-release-date-slides-to-december-31466/
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At this point, it's all "he says, she says" and we won't know until there's an official announcement. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/

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At this point, it's all "he says, she says" and we won't know until there's an official announcement. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
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Yeah, the world is still flat until you become an astronaut too right?
The T Prime was supposed to launch already, do you see it out?
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111107PD217.html

kjy2010 said:
Yeah, the world is still flat until you become an astronaut too right?
The T Prime was supposed to launch already, do you see it out?
http://www.google.com/search?q=transformer+prime+asus+release+date
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Look, I'm not trying to argue but you keep pushing. You're like one of those people who always has to be right no matter what... Yes, it was supposed to be released yesterday, and yes, they also pushed it to December. That happens all the time. They did not say why, however. They never officially stated that it was for ICS. That was only speculation. They did, however, say ICS would be coming to both Transformer's before the end of the year. Whether or not the TP launches with ICS is still unconfirmed. Until Asus makes an official statement, it is only speculation. Could it be true? Possibly. But it's still unconfirmed, nonetheless.
Look. I can post links too: http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/asus-...-land-in-early-december-with-tegra-3-for-500/

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Look, I'm not trying to argue but you keep pushing. You're like one of those people who always has to be right no matter what... Yes, it was supposed to be released yesterday, and yes, they also pushed it to December. That happens all the time. They did not say why, however. They never officially stated that it was for ICS. That was only speculation. They did, however, say ICS would be coming to both Transformer's before the end of the year. Whether or not the TP launches with ICS is still unconfirmed. Until Asus makes an official statement, it is only speculation. Could it be true? Possibly. But it's still unconfirmed, nonetheless.
Look. I can post links too: http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/asus-...-land-in-early-december-with-tegra-3-for-500/
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You get at least a half a dozen sites that say it will launch with ICS, and a couple that say it's rumor. You live in your fairy tale world and be happy bro OK?.
As to "they didn't say why" , learn to read, maybe not drop out of grade school?
And for the record, you attacked my post, I was just defending what I know to be true.

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A500 or A100? New or used? Warranty? I think you're asking how it compares to the current selling price? With more info you can get an answer to your question.
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Sorry your right its a 16GB A500 used 30 day warranty
Its going to be my first tablet so don't know much about prices on tablets what's a good deal
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All the major tech blogs have said the Prime will launch with 3.2 in December, with ICS following as an upgrade. Since they're getting their info straight from the vendor, I would count them as more credible than some guy on an online forum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet
"The Transformer Prime is expected to launch in the US in December with Android 3.2. ASUS is hinting at more details on Ice Cream Sandwich availability at the launch of the Prime next month. Based on what I've heard, I wouldn't expect ICS on Tegra 3 until early next year."
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/09/asus-transformer-prime-is-the-first-quad-core-android-tablet/
"For software, the Transformer Prime runs Android 3.2, but not for long; Asus promises to upgrade the tablet to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) later in December. The upgrade will bring new features like built-in photo editing, better speech-to-text and a system-wide spell checker."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
"Software-wise, it'll ship with Android 3.2 and apps such as SuperNote and Polaris Office, and we're told we'll learn more about that ICS update in 'early December.'"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2...-prime-pricing-release-date-quad-core-tegra-3
"There's no doubt it sounds like the best Android tablet to date, and while it won't launch with Ice Cream Sandwich, Asus is promising an over-the-air update very soon after the early December release."

e.mote said:
All the major tech blogs have said the Prime will launch with 3.2 in December, with ICS following as an upgrade. Since they're getting their info straight from the vendor, I would count them as more credible than some guy on an online forum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet
"The Transformer Prime is expected to launch in the US in December with Android 3.2. ASUS is hinting at more details on Ice Cream Sandwich availability at the launch of the Prime next month. Based on what I've heard, I wouldn't expect ICS on Tegra 3 until early next year."
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/09/asus-transformer-prime-is-the-first-quad-core-android-tablet/
"For software, the Transformer Prime runs Android 3.2, but not for long; Asus promises to upgrade the tablet to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) later in December. The upgrade will bring new features like built-in photo editing, better speech-to-text and a system-wide spell checker."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
"Software-wise, it'll ship with Android 3.2 and apps such as SuperNote and Polaris Office, and we're told we'll learn more about that ICS update in 'early December.'"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2...-prime-pricing-release-date-quad-core-tegra-3
"There's no doubt it sounds like the best Android tablet to date, and while it won't launch with Ice Cream Sandwich, Asus is promising an over-the-air update very soon after the early December release."
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No blogs here:
"ASUS’ Eee Pad Transformer Prime, the second-gen Transformer, may have its launch pushed back into December, so as to arrive running Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich according to the latest rumors. Google has agreed to help ASUS develop ICS for the Tegra 3 based Transformer Prime, DigiTimes‘ supply chain sources reckon, in an attempt to persuade the company not to shift its focus to Windows 8 tablets instead."
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-trans...ushed-to-dec-for-ice-cream-sandwich-08193892/
"For all of you Asus Transformer fans we have some good and bad news for you. The November 9th launch date for the Transformer Prime has been pushed back to sometime in December. Yes, this is a bummer dudes. I too was looking forward to some NVIDIA quad-core tablet goodness sometime this month.
But, on the other hand, the good news is that apparently Google is willing to help Asus in preparing the tablet so that it ships with ICS on board at launch. That’s cool, right?! We will just have to wait it out for about another month because you know the big G wants their Galaxy Nexus to be the first to arrive on scene rocking the new Android 4.o operating system. And by the way things have been lately, we all should be used to this waiting game by now… or at least expect it."
http://www.talkandroid.com/71362-asus-delays-transformer-prime-to-december-ics-on-board/
"Asus has yet to officially announce the Eee Pad Transformer Prime — that’s supposed to happen tomorrow. And while it was originally slated to launch some time later this month, the Tranformer Prime has now been pushed back to December so that Asus can ship the tablet with Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich pre-installed. Google has agreed to lend a hand to make sure the transition to ICS is a smooth one for Asus."
http://www.geek.com/articles/gadget...old-till-december-pending-ics-update-2011118/
"There’s news floating around that Asus has delayed the release of the Transformer Prime tablet, from November to December, in order to get Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich on-board at launch. Google is assisting Asus in order to complete the process as quickly as possible. It’s unclear at this point if Asus still plans to announce the tablet on November 9th like they previously scheduled, or if that’s been pushed back as well. Stay tuned."
http://www.smartkeitai.com/asus-transformer-prime-delayed-for-ice-cream-sandwich/

There's a difference between rumors and facts. What were quoted in the links I provided were info straight from the vendor from the Prime's official announcement date (11/09/2011). What you're quoting are rumors and gossip. From your own link,
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-trans...ushed-to-dec-for-ice-cream-sandwich-08193892/
"according to the latest rumors"
Please note that this particular blurb was on the 8th, a day before the official announcement.
The other links you provided are merely gossip. Given the tendency of sites to copy-paste content from each other, rumor propagation is rife. Note that all the sites you mentioned are quoting the same rumor.
Regardless of how you parse these, it's as the other poster said, that we'll know for certain when it ships. It's not a big deal either way. The main reason that I replied is because of your juvenile responses to the other poster, with petty put-downs and personal attacks. They were uncalled for.

e.mote, i know you're right, but just let him believe what he wants. obviously when i said he's one of those guys who always has to be right, i hit the nail right on the head. his response to me was totally out of line, even after i point out that it's all speculation and we won't know the truth until we get closer to the actual launch. it should be left at that.
now let's get back on topic.

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e.mote, i know you're right, but just let him believe what he wants. obviously when i said he's one of those guys who always has to be right, i hit the nail right on the head. his response to me was totally out of line, even after i point out that it's all speculation and we won't know the truth until we get closer to the actual launch. it should be left at that.
now let's get back on topic.
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Page bookmarked, I'll leave you kids to your fantasies, and we'll revisit it in December.

See Asus, and this is how you do it..

Intentional leaks to keep users happy without upsetting Google.
www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/22/an...nia-tab-a500-and-a100-ahead-of-april-release/
Might be something of using there for Pauls unofficial ICS rom?
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I wouldnt be so quick to put Acer in a pedestal. Not only do they NEVER address their customers, but also have locked and signed bootloaders with no intention of unlocking them. Now, I dont think Asus has been fast or great to their users, but at least they communicate, listen, and are delivering updates way faster than the rest. (Pretty much every honeycomb device is projected to get an ICS update during Q2 or later, Asus is working for a late Q1 update...)

This is ICS related.
I might be wrong, but I thought we had a place for this sort of stuff...
OH WAIT, THAT'S RIGHT! IT'S THAT VERY FIRST STICKIED THREAD CALLED, "READ THIS NOW !!!•••POST ALL ICS AND ICS RELATED INFO HERE ONLY !!!!!".
Just sayin'.

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Intentional leaks to keep users happy without upsetting Google.
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This has never had *anything* to do with upsetting Google. Google couldn't care less if Asus releases for the TF101 tonight. They couldn't care less if they never release at all. Any Google approvals were given when the Prime build was finalized; beyond that Google isn't involved any more. Asus were just trying to make excuses, and Google made an easy scapegoat, because they won't comment.
The lack of truth to Asus' claim to be waiting for Google came when Asus themselves subsequently claimed the delay was down to their own techs being off for Chinese New Year, ie. not waiting for Google at all. Truth be told, the build has almost certainly been ready--at least, in as much as the Prime build was ready--from the same day the Prime build shipped. Asus have just chosen not to release for the TF101, likely initially because they wanted to build hype for the Prime (and "reward" Prime users for spending money more recently), and later likely because they realized a lot of Primes were being bricked, and didn't want to deal with warranty repairs for an even greater number of bricked TF101s, which are in the wild in far greater numbers.
Hence, we sit and wait until Asus fixes the TF201 problems, has sufficiently long to decide they're no longer bricking tablets, twiddles their fingers a bit, and then finally releases the TF101 build that's been available inside Asus all along.
At least, that's my (logical) guess.

CrazyPeter said:
Intentional leaks to keep users happy without upsetting Google.
www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/22/an...nia-tab-a500-and-a100-ahead-of-april-release/
Might be something of using there for Pauls unofficial ICS rom?
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What a strange post to make on the very day ICS is released for the Transformer.

psinno said:
What a strange post to make on the very day ICS is released for the Transformer.
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Yep! I bet now people will start whining about when ICS is going to be released in their region

Asus USA, Netherlands suggest TF101 Jelly Bean undecided; Asus Germany disagrees

Update: different branches of Asus are directly contradicting each other about whether we'll get an update. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28840181 for the first example. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29269146 for yet another contradiction.
Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/

Some if not most of the developers here at XDA who program for the tf101 do a better job than the officials over at ASUS. I have faith in our developers and will support them fully to release any form of Jelly Bean for our beloved tablet.

Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible. And isn't Asus supposed to support their Android OS devices 18 months and should comply to Google regulations?
Furthermore, what grauntparty says: our respected XDA devs have done a far better job on ICS than Asus did. In fact, Asus is somehow obliged to grant us TF101 users a JB update. Especially the unlucky ones on stock rom. If you read this Asus, you know what to do... This upgrade cannot be that hard for you, even my old Defy is now running a CM10 JB nigthly already. If not, In Dev We Trust but your brand won't appear on my next shopping list.
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A propos, Motorola, another fine example of customer loyalty. Defy got stuck on Froyo with a locked bootloader, which they promised to remove in 2011. Never heard anything ever since. And now thanks to xda devs it has JB. Oh, as much as I love my precious Defy I HATE Moto.

If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!

in devs we trust, all glory to xda!!!!
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knoxploration said:
Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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Satertek said:
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months

This tablet better get an official update. It shouldn't be hard for them to come up with one.
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like wise i bought this tablet in december. and it know to old to be update a mere 7 months later. first it takes them months and months to get ics and it buggy.
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This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.

Martijn1971 said:
Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
Asus has told them which products are and aren't getting updates. They've reported that. The only way we'll get an update from Asus now is if they change their mind, which is pretty darned unlikely.
I'm sure we'll get an excuse at some point that the TF101 and Slider "aren't capable" of running JB, which we all know is complete nonsense.
The real reason we're not getting the update? Because we're Tegra 2, which is no longer the current generation. Hence it costs money to make the update; they can't simply repurpose an update for another device. (Devices getting the update are all Tegra 3; devices not getting it are all Tegra 2.)
If you ask me, it's likely why the ICS update we got is so rubbish, as well. We got a half-assed bodged variant of Tegra 3 ICS, rather than a proper Tegra 2 build. So frankly, it's good news that we're not getting official JB, because we'd just have gotten another half-assed build if they'd shipped one, anyway.

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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
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No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.

cholywell said:
This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it

Martijn1971 said:
No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
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Fair enough, apologies for the misunderstanding, I don't often look at people's flags. Should've noticed that, though.
That said, even with your translation, you're still clutching at straws. Why would Asus tell them it wasn't coming, unless they'd decided it wasn't coming?

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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
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And just what is "H/W"?

LastStandingDroid said:
this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
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Transformer TF101 was launched on March 30, 2011. Adding 18 months, we should be hoping for software updates until October 2012.
That would give Asus 2.5 more months to support the device with updates. I'd personally expect perhaps 1 more ICS update but given Asus track record on updates I don't expect JB anymore. It takes them a couple (or more) of updates to get it somewhat stable and that would take more months.

WHAT its been 3 months since I bought this tablet FUC# you Asus "In XDA I TRUST"

Try getting yourself a Samsung Tablet then and see what real under valued customers have to go through. Asus have been way more reasonable with updates for the TF. I can understand the frustration but there are worse out there. Org Gtab (some) are still on Froyo, then the 1st gen larger tabs (some) are still on HC.....then the Tab2 rolled out within months of those.
Maybe the problem is just the whole Android system in itself......too many cooks and all that.
Maybe Google will have to ditch some of the manufacturers from the scene.
Or maybe the manufacturers that use Android just need to stop arseing around with it and all the fancy schmancy extra things they do with the O.S and leave it as close to the Google image as possible.
Or they should just pay our devs a good some of money to fix what they have came up with and let them show the way it should be done.
Who knows.
As much as i like how the whole android set up works for me, i have to be honest and say i now understand why and how Ipads etc are so appealing to some. Its a lot of money to spend on something that "sometimes" works the way it should.
I would jailbreak any "i"device so i dont think its a case of you shouldnt have to rely on our fantastic hard working devs to make something better......its just the way it is.
Go devs! We salute you! nuff respect :good: (look forward to some well made JB)

Well, no JellyBean crap from asus for you this time.
But as of aosp, I am making progress.
I love my TF101, even though our relationship is complex atm as we have to communicate through adb, as the touchscreen drivers aren't fixed as of now.
But JellyBean works. Just a little more effort for the first test releases.
I even get full support from my old friend guevor and maybe also from Team Liquid for Rom debugging.
Nuff said, asus.

rayman33 said:
But JellyBean works.
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I'd be surprised by the opposite: the Xoom is on the "officially supported" list and it's almost identical (hardware-wise) to the TF101, so Jelly Bean has to work on our devices.
Keep up the good work!

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Hard/Ware acceleration, you can't play videos with H/W in aosp, and i do look at videos with my tab,
and we got no dualboot kernel for the tab neither