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ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
Great news, thanks.
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ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot
Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.
Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.
Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.
Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).
good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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jhanford said:
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.
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I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre
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but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)
I just got a used TF101 B70 that already had HC 3.2.1 and 8.6.5.21 firmware.
I know that it's still possible to root this tablet but is it even worth it with ICS coming out so soon(hopefully)?
Will I be able to unroot this tablet to get the ICS update?
you won't need to unroot for the update. just do not install any custom kernel's, ROMs,..., just stay STOCKed! ;-)
additionally you can use the rootkeeper, to (hopefully) restore root simply after upgrade to ICS. so, it would even be an advantage, if there is no root-method right after the update.
and btw, who knows, when ICS will really come round the corner...
ICS soon?
ASUS is busy with their newest products and customers and it looks like they have dropped the ASUS Transformer from their efforts. Think about it - how would it benefit ASUS to release ICS for the Transformer? Their business is to make money so they want you to buy the next generation of their product, they already got your money and to get more does not mean upgrading an older model. Where is the unlockable bootloader for the Transformer they promised? Why are they not keeping us up to date on anything happening in the Transofrmer realm? I think it is because there is no news and the Transformer is dead. They certainly do not have a unified corporate statement regarding ICS and their mixed messages on social media websites is only to keep new buyers purchasing the Transofrmer that remain in stock so they can get every last penny out of the product. I would like ASUS, as a company, on their company website, to annouce their plans and until that occurs there are no plans.
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ICS soon?
ASUS is busy with their newest products and customers and it looks like they have dropped the ASUS Transformer from their efforts. Think about it - how would it benefit ASUS to release ICS for the Transformer? Their business is to make money so they want you to buy the next generation of their product, they already got your money and to get more does not mean upgrading an older model. Where is the unlockable bootloader for the Transformer they promised? Why are they not keeping us up to date on anything happening in the Transofrmer realm? I think it is because there is no news and the Transformer is dead. They certainly do not have a unified corporate statement regarding ICS and their mixed messages on social media websites is only to keep new buyers purchasing the Transofrmer that remain in stock so they can get every last penny out of the product. I would like ASUS, as a company, on their company website, to annouce their plans and until that occurs there are no plans.
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Disagree. There are issues with ICS on the prime which they are working to resolve. They have fixed resources. Releasing ICS for the TF101 would most likely only add to the workload. Makes sense to understand the issues with iCS and prime and fix them in the 101 version before it is released. In addition if ASUS dropped their support of the 101 they would have a tough time ever selling another tablet. Dig through the threads and see all the negative recommendations for the manufacturers that failed to update their devices in a reasonable time. These guys are in biz to make money. Alienating a customer base the size of the TF base would not make business sense.
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ICS soon?
ASUS is busy with their newest products and customers and it looks like they have dropped the ASUS Transformer from their efforts. Think about it - how would it benefit ASUS to release ICS for the Transformer? Their business is to make money so they want you to buy the next generation of their product, they already got your money and to get more does not mean upgrading an older model. Where is the unlockable bootloader for the Transformer they promised? Why are they not keeping us up to date on anything happening in the Transofrmer realm? I think it is because there is no news and the Transformer is dead. They certainly do not have a unified corporate statement regarding ICS and their mixed messages on social media websites is only to keep new buyers purchasing the Transofrmer that remain in stock so they can get every last penny out of the product. I would like ASUS, as a company, on their company website, to annouce their plans and until that occurs there are no plans.
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-sorry to thread jack.
Coming from a person with 2011 Corvette in their name...
You want to talk about companies taking money? where is my tax dollars that were used to "revive" a company that should of sank.
-back on track.
Yes i'd recommend rooting. Even it the Transformer doesn't see an official Android 4.0, i'm sure one of our AWESOME developers will port it over, and do a darn good job of it. And if we don't see Android 4.0, or a port you can always flash a custom OS to give your Tablet that new fresh smell again and over clock it to bring back that youth it once had.
yes dude root what the hell are yo thinking... rooted users may get the damn rom first... and you never know what asus may do to lock your bootloader or whatnot.. so root now and install custom rom... then install custom ics rom... never have to worry bout rooting or locking/unlocking bootloader again... not to mention revolver is the best hc rom in the world right now..
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If you don't root before the update, you may never be able to root it. Asus has been patching many of the current root methods in their recent updates for the Prime, and you never know what they have up their sleeves. If you want to ensure you can root after the update, you may want to hold off on installing it right away to see what issues may arise, and wait for a dev to release a stock ROM + root package. That way you can safely flash it via CWM and totally circumvent any root blocks that Asus may have created for us.
I'm tempted to root but not install CWM so I can get the OTA update but my worry is I'll break some system file with root and not be able to recover since I won't have CWM installed and I have a B90 device.
If that happens, can you use the stock recovery to recover a broken system?
I have a B90...and used the apk files to root and install CWM. But...if you are patient enough to not root and wait for an OTA...then you may even be patient enough to just root and wait maybe 48 hours (after the OTA drops) at most to get a rooted ICS version...by one of the devs here.
2011CorvetteZR1 said:
ICS soon?
ASUS is busy with their newest products and customers and it looks like they have dropped the ASUS Transformer from their efforts. Think about it - how would it benefit ASUS to release ICS for the Transformer? Their business is to make money so they want you to buy the next generation of their product, they already got your money and to get more does not mean upgrading an older model. Where is the unlockable bootloader for the Transformer they promised? Why are they not keeping us up to date on anything happening in the Transofrmer realm? I think it is because there is no news and the Transformer is dead. They certainly do not have a unified corporate statement regarding ICS and their mixed messages on social media websites is only to keep new buyers purchasing the Transofrmer that remain in stock so they can get every last penny out of the product. I would like ASUS, as a company, on their company website, to annouce their plans and until that occurs there are no plans.
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Mid-Frebruary. They've said this repeatedly for weeks now. And recently posted on their own facebook about the upcoming update
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2011CorvetteZR1 said:
ICS soon?
ASUS is busy with their newest products and customers and it looks like they have dropped the ASUS Transformer from their efforts. Think about it - how would it benefit ASUS to release ICS for the Transformer? Their business is to make money so they want you to buy the next generation of their product, they already got your money and to get more does not mean upgrading an older model. Where is the unlockable bootloader for the Transformer they promised? Why are they not keeping us up to date on anything happening in the Transofrmer realm? I think it is because there is no news and the Transformer is dead. They certainly do not have a unified corporate statement regarding ICS and their mixed messages on social media websites is only to keep new buyers purchasing the Transofrmer that remain in stock so they can get every last penny out of the product. I would like ASUS, as a company, on their company website, to annouce their plans and until that occurs there are no plans.
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Disagree. They still said that prime doesn't have 3g so for who wants that there is tf101 (their words on prime presentation)...
So a point in favour for who wants an asus, wants ics and wants 3g
I was under the impression that Asus was keeping the TF101 alive as the <$400, 16 GB tablet in order to compete with the cheapest iPad.
It's similar to how Apple has kept the 3GS alive to compete with the budget Android phones.
If you have a B70 or lower, do what you want. When ICS comes out, nvflash and update. If you have a B70 or over, you may want to wait. There's no easy way to get back to stock on a B70 yet.
Why is everyone harping that ASUS will relock their boot loader when they are about to release a tool for the Prime?
( http://www.itproportal.com/2012/01/...me-bootloader-unlock-tool-available-february/ )
ASUS WILL release ICS for the transformer. It seems a lot of people got butt hurt because one PR guy on a foreign Facebook page had issues and said it would come soon, and got their hopes up.
If you think ASUS is going to disappoint 7% of the Android tablet market that they own by not rolling out this update you would be very mistaken. It may be late, but they can't afford not to push it. As stated, they would have big trouble trying to sell another tablet after that.
2011CorvetteZR1 said:
ICS soon?
ASUS is busy with their newest products and customers and it looks like they have dropped the ASUS Transformer from their efforts. Think about it - how would it benefit ASUS to release ICS for the Transformer? Their business is to make money so they want you to buy the next generation of their product, they already got your money and to get more does not mean upgrading an older model. Where is the unlockable bootloader for the Transformer they promised? Why are they not keeping us up to date on anything happening in the Transofrmer realm? I think it is because there is no news and the Transformer is dead. They certainly do not have a unified corporate statement regarding ICS and their mixed messages on social media websites is only to keep new buyers purchasing the Transofrmer that remain in stock so they can get every last penny out of the product. I would like ASUS, as a company, on their company website, to annouce their plans and until that occurs there are no plans.
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C'mon man, this ISN'T Samsung we're talking about here.
I'm confident we will get the update. They put on their website that the TF101 will be ICS-upgradeable months ago, which is the reason many people may have chosen to purchase it. Especially during the holiday season. Bad press can effect a company's profits and reputation. ASUS knows this, and will keep their promise.
Jason.. Don't be so damn naive htc said the same thing... And still using there tool it is not a full unlock.. Better root and load custom rom now if you can.... But whatever..
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They'll support it at least until the next wave of tablets, Samsung was hit hard and the other companies thrived when Sammy failed to deliver on almost all of their devices and people went crazy over it.
Now they send devices to the CM team before they are even released lol.
KingDavid63 said:
Jason.. Don't be so damn naive htc said the same thing... And still using there tool it is not a full unlock.. Better root and load custom rom now if you can.... But whatever..
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That's logic, not naivety. They've put at least hundreds of man hours, and a lot of PR into this update. Dumping it at the last second would be second rate stupid.
Look past other companies and see ASUS. You don't get to be one of the largest manufacturer's in the computer component industry by breaking promises. That's not fanboism, either, it's fact.
You should also checkout their Facebook page. Just a few hours ago they, once again, stated they were working on it, and it should be mid-Febuary. It's all good!
Acer ANZ have given a release date for ICS for the A500 on their facebook fan page, and as usual for acer their promises of an april release have turned into more lies, their release date in answer to a question on their page is May 17.
Doesn't matter really, they haven't said no. There's plenty of aftermarket versions that work fine anyway.
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Alienwithin said:
Acer ANZ have given a release date for ICS for the A500 on their facebook fan page, and as usual for acer their promises of an april release have turned into more lies, their release date in answer to a question on their page is May 17.
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Yes! End the lies! MAKE them release the OTA update in April. Whether it's finished or not. Whether it's full of bugs or not. Getting it soon is far more important than getting it right!
...or maybe not
Alienwithin said:
Acer ANZ have given a release date for ICS for the A500 on their facebook fan page, and as usual for acer their promises of an april release have turned into more lies, their release date in answer to a question on their page is May 17.
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The problem people have with dates is that they only look at the date and not the rest of what is said.
The Acer webpage says the date for the A500 update is TBA Mid April.
TBA means To Be Announced mid April.
Seems to me that since it is early April and not mid April, they are ahead of schedule.
But they are guilty of being late in the past.
Still, do not go by Facebook. It is not reliable for Acer announcements.
Acer ANZ is Datacom Manila, a closed group of 64.
Does not sound like an official Acer site to me.
Oh yea, here is the Acer webpage.
http://acer.custhelp.com/app/answer...sion/L3RpbWUvMTMzMjg5Njg5MC9zaWQvUThEdkJhVWs=
This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
I second this. I listed mine on craigs list today.
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This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
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Me too I'm also fed up with Google too and their vague update cycles I mean the nexus s just got the official update last weekend.
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panda.bear said:
This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
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Let's see, I bought my A500 in August and it was loaded with 3.0. I quickly got the update to 3.1 and fairly soon received 3.2. What do you want, 5 major OS versions in a years time? Seriously, people... relax. Even if you have to only wait 2 more weeks, you're selling your tablet? I'm calling shenanigans.
Learn patience. A good, bug-free update, especially one with this many changes, is worth the wait. And if you're THAT impatient, root the darned thing and load one of the many ICS versions that many developers have to offer.
/end rant, but not before a general facepalm
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This will be my last Acer product until their management changes their priorities.
So far I've been deeply disappointed by the timeliness of their updates. Moto and Asus have already pushed ICS to their hardware and the Asus tabs has vastly superior hardware compared to Acer offerings.
I guess Acer is just not very attuned to their customers' needs and that's disheartening as an owner.
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Can we chill a little bit? 3% of android devices are on ICS. Thats it. It's not like we're the last ones waiting for an update.....
If you will be watching the frequency and the increasing quality of the ICS leaks in the Dev section, you can expect the official ics update soon. And if you don't want to wait just install one of the marvelous ics custom roms. The improvement over hc is huge! !
With best regards, maris
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Let's see, I bought my A500 in August and it was loaded with 3.0. I quickly got the update to 3.1 and fairly soon received 3.2. What do you want, 5 major OS versions in a years time? Seriously, people... relax. Even if you have to only wait 2 more weeks, you're selling your tablet? I'm calling shenanigans.
Learn patience. A good, bug-free update, especially one with this many changes, is worth the wait. And if you're THAT impatient, root the darned thing and load one of the many ICS versions that many developers have to offer.
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THIS! Have some patience, people!
Come on acer .. when are you updating me to Jelly bean.. I WANT IT NEED IT AND DEMAND IT NOW.... You know you have it ready for our A500 . who cares if google is still developing it..
Two weeks after you get ICS Official update on your tablet look back and think about what i can do now with my tablet that i could not do on honeycomb. I DO As well want official release. I SCREAMED at acer for months for a DATE.
Chill and see if they come thru. IF Not then just use your buying dollars next time pick another brand.. ASUS SAMSUNG MOTOROLA AND So on. how many have ics and when did they get it.
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Come on acer .. when are you updating me to Jelly bean.. I WANT IT NEED IT AND DEMAND IT NOW.... You know you have it ready for our A500 . who cares if google is still developing it..
Two weeks after you get ICS Official update on your tablet look back and think about what i can do now with my tablet that i could not do on honeycomb. I DO As well want official release. I SCREAMED at acer for months for a DATE.
Chill and see if they come thru. IF Not then just use your buying dollars next time pick another brand.. ASUS SAMSUNG MOTOROLA AND So on. how many have ics and when did they get it.
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i honestly wouldnt go for motorola, their phones are locked down and as far as i understand the droid x2 (which is still in its 18 month update period) isnt seeing ICS so like acer they go back on their commitments as well
also, motorola promised that theyd release an unlock tool late 2011 and its april 2012 and there hasnt been anything released
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ztotherad said:
i honestly wouldnt go for motorola, their phones are locked down and as far as i understand the droid x2 (which is still in its 18 month update period) isnt seeing ICS so like acer they go back on their commitments as well
also, motorola promised that theyd release an unlock tool late 2011 and its april 2012 and there hasnt been anything released
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I totally agree. but i was just making note that there are other options. If a company sets itself apart from the others in a way they Support what customers want. Right now that company could Take many customers from the pack. People are sick of devices becoming obsolete and disposable in a year or less. And locked down tighter then FT KNOX. (i live about 10 minutes from there) I can tell its very secure.
As far as locked bootloaders, the vast majority of phone users don't even know of the possibility of modding... let alone have any desire to do it. The same goes for updates. People on sites like this represent the small minority of users. The typical tablet or phone user wakes up one day, looks at their device, sees a box saying there's an update, presses OK and goes on with their lives.
They bought their device based upon the user experience, not some vague hope that some major change will happen... sometime... soon.
Hello everybody, this is my forst post, so be comprehensive...
If someone wants an Acer ICS build there is the latest "leak 1.031" on the Developer section which is very easy to install - download the zip file, rename it to "Update.zip", put it on your extSD and reboot while holding "power" + "vol-".
I never did any mods to my A500 since I bought it, never rooted or so, but lately it was starting to freeze and force close quite a lot so I updated it manually and am very satisfied - running very smooth, web browsing is much faster (using ICS browser+) and everything seems to work perfectly! I'm just saying that it's a very simple way to get stable ICS without doing any complicated things (CWM, root, kernel mods, etc...)
Cheers!
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Hello everybody, this is my forst post, so be comprehensive...
If someone wants an Acer ICS build there is the latest "leak 1.031" on the Developer section which is very easy to install - download the zip file, rename it to "Update.zip", put it on your extSD and reboot while holding "power" + "vol-".
I never did any mods to my A500 since I bought it, never rooted or so, but lately it was starting to freeze and force close quite a lot so I updated it manually and am very satisfied - running very smooth, web browsing is much faster (using ICS browser+) and everything seems to work perfectly! I'm just saying that it's a very simple way to get stable ICS without doing any complicated things (CWM, root, kernel mods, etc...)
Cheers!
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This. A doddle even for me.
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Come on acer .. when are you updating me to Jelly bean.. I WANT IT NEED IT AND DEMAND IT NOW.... You know you have it ready for our A500 . who cares if google is still developing it..
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THIS! Have some patience, people!
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While we wait, I have to wonder if the general number of us were polled as to WHY we want ICS, what the reasons would be? I'd like to have it, but honestly I don't know of any compelling reason aside from the fact that it is something new.
I'll bet once we get it not much time will pass before we are Jonesing for Jelly Bean for the same silly reason.
I'm running Thor's HC ROM on mine, and very happy with that. It runs well and everything works. What more could I realistically ask for? What's ICS supposed to bring us, anyway?
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Well ice cream will bring us something to put our jellybeans in. sheesh everyone knows you can't have jellybeans without ice cream first.
I will not scream for jelly bean if I get my ics. I will ask politely in a demanding way.
erica_renee said:
Well ice cream will bring us something to put our jellybeans in. sheesh everyone knows you can't have jellybeans without ice cream first.
I will not scream for jelly bean if I get my ics. I will ask politely in a demanding way.
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OK, as long as you're not too aggressive. ( - I couldn't resist.)
have to post this i have had my TF101 for a year today and with this lastest update i have had 6 updates to the softwre.That is excellent customer support works out an update every 2 months
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Shhhh dont tell the gtab owners hehe
Updates are nice but I'd take quality over quantity any day.
Honeycomb took 3 attempts to get right, ICS isn't right yet after 3.
I like my TF101 and appreciate the effort Asus puts into supporting their older hardware but unfortunately the result hasn't always been what you'd hope for.
Perhaps 4 times is a charm, I'm keeping the faith.
locutus7o9 said:
Updates are nice but I'd take quality over quantity any day.
Honeycomb took 3 attempts to get right, ICS isn't right yet after 3.
I like my TF101 and appreciate the effort Asus puts into supporting their older hardware but unfortunately the result hasn't always been what you'd hope for.
Perhaps 4 times is a charm, I'm keeping the faith.
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There've been two updates to our ICS. The initial release of ICS can't be considered an update to ICS, by definition.
If you want to get really technical about it, there've been no updates (just bugfixes). The Honeycomb "attempts" you refer to were version updates, going from 3.0 to 3.1 to 3.2 to 3.2.1. Whereas I believe ICS on TF101 has started and remained at 4.0.3 so far.
Wait someone here who is actually happy with ASUS. Well I guess the world really is ending in 2012.
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Wait someone here who is actually happy with ASUS. Well I guess the world really is ending in 2012.
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**** Clark is gone. Now we really can't bring in the new year....the Mayans were right.
Update: different branches of Asus are directly contradicting each other about whether we'll get an update. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28840181 for the first example. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29269146 for yet another contradiction.
Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
Some if not most of the developers here at XDA who program for the tf101 do a better job than the officials over at ASUS. I have faith in our developers and will support them fully to release any form of Jelly Bean for our beloved tablet.
Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible. And isn't Asus supposed to support their Android OS devices 18 months and should comply to Google regulations?
Furthermore, what grauntparty says: our respected XDA devs have done a far better job on ICS than Asus did. In fact, Asus is somehow obliged to grant us TF101 users a JB update. Especially the unlucky ones on stock rom. If you read this Asus, you know what to do... This upgrade cannot be that hard for you, even my old Defy is now running a CM10 JB nigthly already. If not, In Dev We Trust but your brand won't appear on my next shopping list.
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A propos, Motorola, another fine example of customer loyalty. Defy got stuck on Froyo with a locked bootloader, which they promised to remove in 2011. Never heard anything ever since. And now thanks to xda devs it has JB. Oh, as much as I love my precious Defy I HATE Moto.
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
in devs we trust, all glory to xda!!!!
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Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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Satertek said:
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
This tablet better get an official update. It shouldn't be hard for them to come up with one.
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like wise i bought this tablet in december. and it know to old to be update a mere 7 months later. first it takes them months and months to get ics and it buggy.
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This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
Asus has told them which products are and aren't getting updates. They've reported that. The only way we'll get an update from Asus now is if they change their mind, which is pretty darned unlikely.
I'm sure we'll get an excuse at some point that the TF101 and Slider "aren't capable" of running JB, which we all know is complete nonsense.
The real reason we're not getting the update? Because we're Tegra 2, which is no longer the current generation. Hence it costs money to make the update; they can't simply repurpose an update for another device. (Devices getting the update are all Tegra 3; devices not getting it are all Tegra 2.)
If you ask me, it's likely why the ICS update we got is so rubbish, as well. We got a half-assed bodged variant of Tegra 3 ICS, rather than a proper Tegra 2 build. So frankly, it's good news that we're not getting official JB, because we'd just have gotten another half-assed build if they'd shipped one, anyway.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
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No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
cholywell said:
This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
Martijn1971 said:
No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
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Fair enough, apologies for the misunderstanding, I don't often look at people's flags. Should've noticed that, though.
That said, even with your translation, you're still clutching at straws. Why would Asus tell them it wasn't coming, unless they'd decided it wasn't coming?
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
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And just what is "H/W"?
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
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Transformer TF101 was launched on March 30, 2011. Adding 18 months, we should be hoping for software updates until October 2012.
That would give Asus 2.5 more months to support the device with updates. I'd personally expect perhaps 1 more ICS update but given Asus track record on updates I don't expect JB anymore. It takes them a couple (or more) of updates to get it somewhat stable and that would take more months.
WHAT its been 3 months since I bought this tablet FUC# you Asus "In XDA I TRUST"
Try getting yourself a Samsung Tablet then and see what real under valued customers have to go through. Asus have been way more reasonable with updates for the TF. I can understand the frustration but there are worse out there. Org Gtab (some) are still on Froyo, then the 1st gen larger tabs (some) are still on HC.....then the Tab2 rolled out within months of those.
Maybe the problem is just the whole Android system in itself......too many cooks and all that.
Maybe Google will have to ditch some of the manufacturers from the scene.
Or maybe the manufacturers that use Android just need to stop arseing around with it and all the fancy schmancy extra things they do with the O.S and leave it as close to the Google image as possible.
Or they should just pay our devs a good some of money to fix what they have came up with and let them show the way it should be done.
Who knows.
As much as i like how the whole android set up works for me, i have to be honest and say i now understand why and how Ipads etc are so appealing to some. Its a lot of money to spend on something that "sometimes" works the way it should.
I would jailbreak any "i"device so i dont think its a case of you shouldnt have to rely on our fantastic hard working devs to make something better......its just the way it is.
Go devs! We salute you! nuff respect :good: (look forward to some well made JB)
Well, no JellyBean crap from asus for you this time.
But as of aosp, I am making progress.
I love my TF101, even though our relationship is complex atm as we have to communicate through adb, as the touchscreen drivers aren't fixed as of now.
But JellyBean works. Just a little more effort for the first test releases.
I even get full support from my old friend guevor and maybe also from Team Liquid for Rom debugging.
Nuff said, asus.
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But JellyBean works.
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I'd be surprised by the opposite: the Xoom is on the "officially supported" list and it's almost identical (hardware-wise) to the TF101, so Jelly Bean has to work on our devices.
Keep up the good work!
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And just what is "H/W"?
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Hard/Ware acceleration, you can't play videos with H/W in aosp, and i do look at videos with my tab,
and we got no dualboot kernel for the tab neither