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[Q] [Request] Windows 8 Developer Preview to Xoom

I have no idea how to do this, but I thought that maybe now with the Windows 8 Developer Preview being available for free download without activation, somebody might be able to work on a port of this to the Xoom.
Because Windows 8 is supposed to be built around the idea of running it on multi-touch screens, I think the Xoom would be the perfect candidate.
If anyone wants to try this and wants to put in the coding effort, I will help however I can.

They haven't released the Arm compatible version yet. There is only 32bit (x86), vanilla 64 bit, and a 64 dev version available for download so far.

Microsoft has stated that there is no ARM support in the dev preview, so were gonna have to wait till at least a beta comes out.
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Now are the arm images designed the same way as the android images are in terms of software hardware meshing?
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Now I know nothing about this beyond the fact that porting the ARM version over the x86 version would be significantly easier (and probably the only port that would work).
So am I right in assuming that if there is an ARM release some point soon, that it could, given the right amount of time, definitely be ported to run on our Devices?

Completely forgot about the ARM situation. I agree, hopefully they will release the ARM source in beta rather than waiting until the RCs or Finals.

If the ARM edition is released in .IMG format it may be possible with Fastboot. I would think that since LIV2 was able to boot into Debian in this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138661 it would be rather similar to do.

^^ You are right..... However the main problem will be trying to shoehorn a full windows OS into our limited system partition, one would assume that at least a gigabyte would be required for a full install......
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win 8 on a samsung tab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJQotodEVQ&feature=player_embedded

i would be very interested in this... moreover it would be awesome as dual boots.... i really enjoy honeycomb and android is awesome... but windows/ubuntu dual boot along side it will be the ultimate machine lol

hector_122 said:
win 8 on a samsung tab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJQotodEVQ&feature=player_embedded
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Be careful with that...... It's not a galaxy tab 10.1 as evidenced by the windows button at the bottom. I'm still going to say its gonna be really difficult to run win8 nativley on our limited internal storage, that's not to say we couldn't run it off an SD card though....... Witch could actually be the best of both worlds, dual booting between android and win8 sounds pretty cool.
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One thing people seem to forget is that it's closed source. You know, there's a reason that Windows Phone 7 isn't ported to Android-devices yet (same for WebOS). It's because it's closed source.

Vistaus said:
One thing people seem to forget is that it's closed source. You know, there's a reason that Windows Phone 7 isn't ported to Android-devices yet (same for WebOS). It's because it's closed source.
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Not to mention all of the drivers that we would have to develop or modify any "generic" drivers that are included in the windows 8 release to work on our xooms

but what I would like to say is that once we have a ARM version of win 8, I want ALL of our Devs working on this.

I don't think any dev will pick this up. I mean, look at the Ubuntu-thread. Ubuntu is open source and almost all other HC-tablets have an Ubuntu-port now, yet the Xoom still hasn't. So if they don't care for open source Ubuntu, then I don't think any dev will try closed source Win8.

eliteone said:
Be careful with that...... It's not a galaxy tab 10.1 as evidenced by the windows button at the bottom. I'm still going to say its gonna be really difficult to run win8 nativley on our limited internal storage, that's not to say we couldn't run it off an SD card though....... Witch could actually be the best of both worlds, dual booting between android and win8 sounds pretty cool.
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i understand, it says in the title of video samsung t700 tablet, i know it's not the galaxy tab

i blame the high price of the xoom. Nobody who WOULD be able to provide dev work probably can't afford to purchase one. Most other tablets are 100 dollars or more cheaper

kenfly said:
i blame the high price of the xoom. Nobody who WOULD be able to provide dev work probably can't afford to purchase one. Most other tablets are 100 dollars or more cheaper
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The Galaxy Tab already has an Ubuntu-port and more ROMS available. Still, the price is the same as the Xoom's price. Even the Acer Iconia has more ROMS and stuff and yes, it's cheaper, but worldwide more Xoom's have been sold then the Acer-ones. So that is quite strange.

Windows 8

I would love a windows 8 rom or the real thing would be best
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jnktechstuff said:
I would love a windows 8 from or the real thing would be best
Acer Iconia A500 Rooted Running Flexreaper R7 ICS 4.0.3s
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what?

Is the OP a bot?
Maybe English is their second or third language perhaps?
I think what the OP might be trying to say is they'd love the ARM version of Windows 8 for the Acer Iconia A500?
Not going to happen imo, even with MS supporting ARM, where would the drivers for the Iconia A500 derive from?

dr mcknight said:
what?
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Seriously?!

http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA

Sorry spell check
I meant to say a rom
Acer Iconia A500 Rooted Running Flexreaper R7 ICS 4.0.3

Idk how to do it somehow someone will do it if now the real thing the rom would be cool.
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Windows wouldn't work for me anyway, as I use a lot of Linux specific functions on my tab... Why anyone would want to make android look like windows is beyond me, also.

haag498 said:
Windows wouldn't work for me anyway, as I use a lot of Linux specific functions on my tab... Why anyone would want to make android look like windows is beyond me, also.
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I personally really like the Metro UI for tablets. It arranges information in a way that works me for.
I don't think that a true Windows port would ever come to the Acer A500. If I remember correctly, MS is locking down the ARM version of Windows 8's bootloader (yup). As I understand it, not only does that keep you from running custom software on a Win8 device, it would also keep you from running Win8 on non-signed hardware.
I think the better chance would be to have one of the many developers working on Metro UI clones for android build a tablet version.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23843738#post23843738
Please read this, and then have someone close this topic.

This is completely different from what you are talking about, this is a voting post
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ROM or Windows 8, what exactly are you asking?
Have u tried Windows 8, it looks to be aimed a 4 year olds (which is probably fine if you are 4 years old) but, I can't seriously believe Microsoft is going to offer this piece of crap as a serious attempt at a new operating system. So, my answer, without even knowing for sure what option 2 might be, would be option 2. (Anyting... except Windows 8!)

I have tried it, i have a dual boot right now.i like the updating tiles, windows 8 is really designed for touchscreen though

Danny2 said:
Have u tried Windows 8, it looks to be aimed a 4 year olds (which is probably fine if you are 4 years old) but, I can't seriously believe Microsoft is going to offer this piece of crap as a serious attempt at a new operating system. So, my answer, without even knowing for sure what option 2 might be, would be option 2. (Anyting... except Windows 8!)
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If you think the Metro design methodology is for 4 year olds then obviously they are sophisticated 4 year olds that love UI's that present information easily. Metro is brilliant in how it aggregates simple data without taking up unnecessary room. I'd take a weather and Facebook tile over a separate icon and widget any day. I've been pleased with Launcher 7 on my phone so far and I'd love to see a Metro UI-like app for Android tablets. I will, however, admit Metro has faults. Tiles that don't show information I could really cut out but that also spoils the uniform UX.

I have a Windows Phone and I gotta tell ya, it's awesome. Fast, reliable and the UI is the best out there. I've had for a month, and only had 1 FC.
I have used iOS and Android (both extensively), and the Metro UI blows them out of the water. It is for tablets though, so I'm not sure about Win8 for Desktops without touchscreen, but it's not the case here.
It still lacks apps, but I believe this will change as devs get used to the platform. The thing is, there aren't a lot of apps, but most that are available are very good.
I would love to see my a500 with Win8, and I believe it may happen. There are awesome devs out there, and one can hope.

sort of ....
I'd like to try the interface without sacrificing the freedom of the android platform. I know there are some metro ui themes in development so if I'm patient ...

from what i have been reading lately. Nobody will ever see windows8 Arm on any device other then installed from the factory. But who knows until its actually out.

I would like a Windows 8 tablet, if only to play with. I haven't even tested it out yet though, so I may monkey with it for a few days and realize I hate it. I wouldn't want to give up my Android love though, in my opinion its the best out at the moment. Either way, I'd have to get another tablet, just so I don't screw up my A500.

You can download the Windows 8 preview from Microsofr, try it out on a desktop, see what you think.

Obviously there'll be no out of the box support for arbitrary devices, but the lack of (community) support for non official devices is purely speculation at this point.
Really, it could go either way at this point. I'm sure someone will at least try, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least a broken version partially running on existing tablets in a year.
That being said, don't hold your breath on it, because there's also a very real possibility it won't happen.
Also, mtmerrick, you can post links of yourself posting links to yourself all you want, that doesn't change the fact that you're spouting one possibility as truth, and noone knows a damn thing about what's going to happen. It also makes you look like a ****.

Windows 8 RT

do you think Windows 8 RT (ARM) could ever be ported successfully to the transformer, or even the prime or some other tablet?
i know it's not open source and that makes a HUUGE difference. so, what are the chances?
obviously it's a bit early to tell for sure, but how likely do you think?

I doubt it since it gonna come preinstalled with hardware.
http://www.techspot.com/news/48217-windows-8-editions-revealed-two-retail-one-for-arm-one-for-enterprise.html
Even if you were able to copy it to another tablet you would not be able to update it. At least legally.
Our only hope is that ms would sell it alone.

Im wondering how restricted it will be because if it runs like standard windows someone using it on a tablet could run a backup and push out an image that people on android could use.
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I very much doubt it as the WinRT code won't be open sourced so it would have to be one hell of a reverse engineering job to get it ported.
It would be like trying to get iOS ported to our TFs

I just hope splashtop or some other RDP software will have the ability to automaticly turn on all touch-features in win8 when you connect from your tablet.
Would make it a hell a lot easier to remote control your PC without keyboard and mouse.

If someone can figure out how to dump it then it is possible.
This is going back a few years & obviously Win8 whole different animal from WM6.5. I remember when it was announced that the beloved Dell Axim x51 was not going to be updated to WM6.5. Some of the devs did figure out how to make it happen. Going that route you do run into a whole host of legal issues.

In not sure why you would want to downgrade?
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Possible, but what's the point? Windows 8 RT isn't proper Windows, it's not get any apps, and has that horrible Metro user interface.

I love the metro interface. It is just so simple and smart. I would also love to use Windows 8 with a touchscreen to enable all the touch features.
Also, I think of it this way... As some person said on this thread, it is not actually Windows 8, cause you cant get out of metro. And it is a really big issue. But I mean, it is like installing Linux on your TF. You would just install it, check it out for a little while, and then switch back for android. I wouldn't actually use Linux on the Transformer. On Linux you wouldn't actually use Word or Excel on your TF. And if you had windows, same thing... you probably wouldn't use Photoshop or After Effects because you just don't need to. If you are on a mobile device, obviously the OS has to be limited only on the features that are useful on a mobile device. Photoshop would burn your TF most probably, so I don't really see the use of using the classic Windows desktop with a Transformer.
P.S. The Metro UI freaking ROCKS!

I'm going to counter and say I can't stand metro ui. At all. If I got win8 (In love with 7 atm) I'd instantly switch to desktop mode and never look at metro again.
I really hope they release a generic arm version, I want windows on my tab. It'd allow me to do so much graphically and musically, but for now,
Ubuntu xD

Windows 8 has high hardware requirement, atleast prime is needed I think for it to work
B60 TF101 16gb WW version. Never rooted.

Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.

Thing O Doom said:
Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.
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the ram for this device is too low even for modified android and for browsing sites and watching flash video.
is ram not like the cheapest component?
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I made a post in another thread stating why I think it's not going to happen.
mjlim said:
I don't anticipate it being possible to run Win8 on the tf101.
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It's unlikely that Windows 8 ARM will be available except preinstalled on devices; unlike PCs, the installation would be different for and specific to each device. So if we assume that is the case;
Windows 8 will probably come on a device with only the drivers necessary for that specific device. You could cite space constraints on that. Why would drivers for any other device be included?
Secondly, building a kernel specifically for the transformer is not going to happen. Why? The Windows kernel is not open source. obviously current kernels we have won't help, because they are Linux.
That last point is probably the biggest reason why we won't see it happening. Not having the source severely limits what can be done.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for this.
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Windows 8 on ARM is more about breaking away from the limitations Intel has in the mobile space. It has nothing to do with compatibility. Microsoft doesn't want to lose any more licenses of Windows to Apple with the iPad (MS makes more money on every Android phone than on Windows Phone).
ARM won't run the desktop. No one cares about Windows if they can't run their old apps. It's DOA.

Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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"never say never"
look at the HTC HD2, a device that was shipped with WinMo 6.1, now it can run Windows Phone 7.5, Android (ICS included), Ubuntu, booting from NAND (with 2 different boot loaders written from scratch), with nearly full hardware support for everything.
When Asus releases WinRT tablets, they will reuse some of the hardware they use in Android tablets, so they will have the correct code compiled, and hackers will backport it to other tablets...

CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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uhm wtf? xbox best selling game console worldwide? about 20 million kinects sold?
anyway... for win 8 I say we'll see and we'll know then.

CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!

jadesse said:
Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!
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Comon man we all know microsoft copied ipads angry birds when made xbox360!!
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Windows 8 possible?

Is it possible to install Windows 8 (and Android for dualboot) on de tab 7.7?

why to downdgrade the best mobil OS to absolutely limited and not so much supported OS?

I want to do things i can not do in Android. Is it possible to install Windows 7/8 ?

No directly, since 16GB internal storage might not be enough for the OS, besides the arm version of windows is not out yet, in the future perhaps someone will try to port it to the tab 7.7, but I wouldn't count on it.

It's doubtful that Microsoft will sell open copies of the ARM version. Bundling with licensed new devices is what I read. Samsung loves to release tablets, so there will most likely be a Windows 8 Galaxy at some point. Just don't count on being able to install it on your 7.7.

maysider said:
why to downdgrade the best mobil OS to absolutely limited and not so much supported OS?
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i would love to boot windows when wanted,android is cute but windows is a real os and it would be great to have truly everything in 1 device.

Windows ARM Edition will not support x86 Apps so no use in Flashing that

manny1983nyc said:
i would love to boot windows when wanted,android is cute but windows is a real os and it would be great to have truly everything in 1 device.
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Use a vpn, remote desktop tool, or something like Onlive. Depending on your needs of course. What do you want to do on Windows on a 7.7"screen that you can't do on Android? I'm curious.
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Play pc games with a wireless remote or root peoples phones or add files to them or have a real browser that is much faster and not glitchy at all.Using a android remote desktop app is cool 2 but not as solid.

manny1983nyc said:
Play pc games with a wireless remote or root peoples phones or add files to them or have a real browser that is much faster and not glitchy at all.Using a android remote desktop app is cool 2 but not as solid.
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Not to prejudge Microsoft, but I would not at all be surprised if the ARM version of Windows 8 has the same kinds of issues as Android does. It won't have the flexibility of x86/64 versions of Windows.

hopefully it does

manny1983nyc said:
Play pc games with a wireless remote or root peoples phones or add files to them or have a real browser that is much faster and not glitchy at all.Using a android remote desktop app is cool 2 but not as solid.
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Again, the windows ARM version will not support the existing x86 infrastructure
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trustme_ said:
hopefully it does
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No you have to understand that ARM and x86 are a lot different and apps need to be either ported (a lot of work) or emulated (which would result in bad performance)
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isn't it really possible to install windows 8 in this tab? since ics is highly unlikely and hc is just ^**&^%$#@&@()#&)@(&#:|

windows on ARM is a nonsense: no apps, many baby issues, closed platform, no HW support, ...
is there any reason to use W8 on ARM?? please, tell me

It could me more fluid and responsive than hc now. It may nit be guaranteed but its worth a try.
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so buy a device with ICS if is a fluidness and a responsiveness more important to you

this is also a somewhat pricey tablet. what do you expect me to do with this? i can't just buy a tab when ever i want. i have budget constrains too.

Wow so much bad information, I had to stop reading on the second page.
Lets clarify some things and I will answer some fo the questions that were .....
.... missleading.
1) Windows RT (aka ARM version) will not be opensource, this is true. But this is not to say that it will be "closed hardware" Lets be very realistic for a moment. Hows that Open Source ICS working out for ya?
.... well ?
2) Windows RT will not run 2 things directly: a) unmanaged x86 code ... i mean DUH!! b)unmanaged code for ARM without it being "rooted"
This will take a bit of explaining ...
W8RT is somewhat interesting in how it works. think of managed code as JAVA (that doesn't suck balls) and unmanaged code as C... or Objective C for you poor iphone coders. While unmanaged code requires recompiling for every Instruction set, managed code does not.
What does this mean? Simple ... most apps that work on your WM phone will work on a tablet. That being said .... many will not present well.
3) So will windows ever be ported to the a tablet .... yeah its pretty likely ....
just not the Tab 7.7 .... and I somehow doubt it ever will be because ... well ... why would they do that.
4) but i want to play MW3 on my tablet, why can't I?
because god said use your damn xbox360. Seriously .... if you havn't figured out why that is not going to work ... then that is the best answer i can give you.
5) why would anyone want Windows 8 RT?
Have you used it? Dude seriously, it is the holy f*cking grail of mobile computing. This kit is so nice if will cure cancer. I will end global warming ... errr "climate change" and bring your family back from the dead.
Ok so it won't being them back from the dead, but seriously its a pretty massive leap in usability and compute ergonomics. Oh and its slick as ice.
I mean if we are messuring the viability of an OS .... who the **** would use a unix based hot mess with a **** frontend that is so bad that everyone and thier brother tried to rewrite it.

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Wow so much bad information, I had to stop reading on the second page.
Lets clarify some things and I will answer some fo the questions that were .....
.... missleading.
1) Windows RT (aka ARM version) will not be opensource, this is true. But this is not to say that it will be "closed hardware" Lets be very realistic for a moment. Hows that Open Source ICS working out for ya?
.... well ?
2) Windows RT will not run 2 things directly: a) unmanaged x86 code ... i mean DUH!! b)unmanaged code for ARM without it being "rooted"
This will take a bit of explaining ...
W8RT is somewhat interesting in how it works. think of managed code as JAVA (that doesn't suck balls) and unmanaged code as C... or Objective C for you poor iphone coders. While unmanaged code requires recompiling for every Instruction set, managed code does not.
What does this mean? Simple ... most apps that work on your WM phone will work on a tablet. That being said .... many will not present well.
3) So will windows ever be ported to the a tablet .... yeah its pretty likely ....
just not the Tab 7.7 .... and I somehow doubt it ever will be because ... well ... why would they do that.
4) but i want to play MW3 on my tablet, why can't I?
because god said use your damn xbox360. Seriously .... if you havn't figured out why that is not going to work ... then that is the best answer i can give you.
5) why would anyone want Windows 8 RT?
Have you used it? Dude seriously, it is the holy f*cking grail of mobile computing. This kit is so nice if will cure cancer. I will end global warming ... errr "climate change" and bring your family back from the dead.
Ok so it won't being them back from the dead, but seriously its a pretty massive leap in usability and compute ergonomics. Oh and its slick as ice.
I mean if we are messuring the viability of an OS .... who the **** would use a unix based hot mess with a **** frontend that is so bad that everyone and thier brother tried to rewrite it.
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haha, dude I get what you are saying...those windows 8 previews/demos at Computex 2012 look bad Ass!
As an android fanboy, I will still be first in line to admit that windows 8 with its metro UI is possibly going to trump android unless Google brings their A-game with android 4.1/5.0 (jelly bean/whatever flavor it is this time). every-time I see a preview/demo of the metro UI I ask... WHY IS IT SOO SMOOTH??? AAGHGHH! LOL
But heres to the dreamers: windows 8 RT + ICS dual-booting on the tab 7.7. yikes!
PS - still love my tab 7.7.
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Ubuntu Phone OS

So I've Been a Big fan of Ubuntu for a while and I was thrilled to see that they will be releasing a phone OS sometime hopefully soon. Since I have the laptop dock I have always wanted to try to put full ubuntu on it. However that never fully worked on and had to be done on a blur based rom. I love the new JB rom I have on my phone as It performs well. But at the end of the video 21:00 Mark Shuttleworth, the Founder of Ubuntu stated that Ubuntu Phone runs on ARM based chips and Android Kenerals and Drivers.
I'm just wondering Who else would love to see this run and be compatible on the atrix AND the dock. If we still have a decent amount of developers I'm sure this is more than possible.
Heres the Link for the video:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
Just putting the idea out there, but if there are any developers capable of this I'd be more than happy to support.

phone spesification is enough for run and if canonical is behind this i think its possible

I was about to post this as a new thread but when I saw this thread I decided to post it in here.
Happy New Year!
According to the video below Ubuntu for Phones will be compatible with any Android designed-hardware. If I understood it correctly, Atrix last chance is with Ubuntu for Phones for sure.
http://www.androidcentral.com/canonical-announces-its-ubuntu-smartphone-os
I have already said that once before that one reason the OEMs lock the bootloader of their phones is to prevent other platforms to be installed to shorten the life of the devices.
Millions of capable Android devices have already been abandoned due to lack of software support which I blame Google directly to allow the implementation of Wild Wild West on Android platform. The only loser in Android world is and will always be the consumers. Ubuntu for Phones will be the left jab that Google didn't see coming. I personally looking forward to see what Ubuntu for Phones can bring this year.
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014

Seems BBC covered the story
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
and in the article says that it will be released for the samsung galaxy nexus. porting from that to the Atrix may be hard, but it should be like CyanogenMod a little. So thats a little boost to say the least.
I also emailed canonical and showed interest in helping with the project especially with the lapdock capabilities, so ill let you guys know what I get back from them, and If its any useful Ill be sure to forward it to every developer possible.

Yes and simply
Yes it's possible for our Atrix, jus read that :
"Easier hardware enablement
We have teams based in Taipei, Shanghai, London, Beijing and Boston to engage with your engineering and factory operations – and their sole focus is to deliver a crisp Ubuntu experience on your device.
Ubuntu has already been adapted to run on chipsets using the ARM and Intel x86 architectures relevant for mobile devices, with the core system based around a typical Android Board Support Package (BSP). So chipset vendors and hardware manufacturers do not need to invest in or maintain new hardware support packages for Ubuntu on smartphones. In short, if you already make handsets that run Android, the work needed to adopt Ubuntu will be trivial."
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information

leclercqsteeven said:
So alright we don't MAKE handsets that runs android but we have one, we also have the kernel drivers no ? so with that it's like port a cyanogenmod ROM I think. My quote come from canonical web-site (sorry new member so I can"t post outside links ><) so it's a truth information
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Yep, we have Ubuntu drivers but we're not sure we will be able to use them. But indeed the project of having Ubuntu running as main OS on the Atrix is realistic as we have all the material (HW and SW) required for this, if our devs know how to use them, but I think a whole team would be required for a project this big. It's not just a port of Cyanogen, it's not about taking a kernel and some drivers and snap them with a more recent UI and newer apps. We only got a kernel and an X server, it's far enough but the thing is that this X server was published to run on dev platforms. But also know it can be used on an Atrix, but how to integrate it with a whole new platform ? It will require time mostly. I think. And devs. But we don't have many devs so we only have hope. But maybe the devs on XDA will look more at the Atrix and Webtop.

CSharpHeaven said:
Update: it seems Ubuntu for Phones will not be available until 2014
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Actually it's supposed to be available late 2013 - according to lifehacker....
http://lifehacker.com/5972559/the-ubuntu-mobile-os-introduced-today-coming-to-phones-in-2014

The Ubuntu Phones that ship with the OS will most likely be available in 2013 in the UK, and will clear american shores in Hopefully late 2013, but most likely will arrive around early 2014.
The OS itself will most likely clear for deployment sometime soon for the samsung galaxy nexus, as for a universal build I'm not sure If/when that will be available, so most likely we will have to see if one can be constructed for the atrix.
As far as the lack of developers, I fell that any and all developers that are still in possession of an operational atrix will want to test this, especially on a phone that isnt their daily driver and has capabilities of bringing back a strong webtop front.

absolutely possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
i like the ubuntu webtop, its run smooth and fast :good:

I think the atrix should be able to run it. just not mine unless the new bootloader gets figured out

Well I really think that Ubuntu can run on the Atrix, because they share the same idea, which is killed by Google: The webtop.
We just plug the phone into a dock, connect it to a monitor and that's it. Besides, the original webtop is just a big browser without many supported applications.
Several webtop-mods have shown that it is possible to run a full Debian or Ubuntu Linux on the phone.
And having one OS for mutliple devices is the stratagy that Microsoft now tries with Windows 8 on Tablets. But other than Windows, Ubuntu really got the chance to do it right.

Possible to run, but...
Well, I'm sure, it won't be a real problem to run the Ubuntu phone OS on Atrix 4g, IMHO, I'm really suprised, they used Atrix 2 and his adventages in testing. It's but I'm sure, HW would not work on 100%. Everyone knows, what is a problem with HWA drivers fot ICS+ even on android. Fingerprint drivers will be problem too... the best roms are (at least in my opinion) GB ones. This is the "tax" we pay for extraordinary HW in Atrix 4G.
Another problem in optimalization is the date of release (futher in future...who knows, how many devs will stay..)

This OS already has its own section on xda and it hasn't even been released yet lol anyways u can share your thoughts on Ubuntu for phone here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082789
Phone Slow? go HERE
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Like I said If I got an email back I would let you guys know and sure enough it came and here it is
Thank you very much for your interest towards Ubuntu on smartphones. We have received an incredible response and have been overwhelmed with the general positive feedback! Responses both from the general public and the industry have been far greater that we expected.
In order to make Ubuntu a truly fantastic smartphone experience we will be initially working with manufacturers who will build Ubuntu into their hardware. We anticipate market availability of Ubuntu on smartphones towards the end of 2013.
To reach this goal, and offer a great experience for future consumers, our first priority will be to respond to industry inquiries from manufacturers/OEMs, silicon partners, developers and mobile operators. If you are a potential industry partner, we’d like to learn more about you. Please register your interest through our web form: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us
If you are a mobile apps developer, and want to learn how you can help bring Ubuntu to the phone, you can also find more information on:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/gomobile
We are all excited about Ubuntu for phones, but it will take some time to get into the marketplace. If you leave us your email and country details, we will let you know when there is further news:
https://forms.canonical.com/manhattan/
Once again, thank you for your interest in Ubuntu!
Yours sincerely,
The Ubuntu for smartphones team at Canonical
Pretty much everything you could have read up on :/

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Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!

While it's possible from a technical standpoint, I just don't see the developer interest which is a shame really, since the device's only weakness is the lack of updates.

Dav0 said:
Hello people.
Searching the past week about this topic, I found the "How to upload" Ubuntu for phones on Tegra Devices like our Atrix.
Here you could find some info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100
This will help un too: http://ac100.grandou.net/nvflash#debian_ubuntu_package
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra
And here, the Ubuntu for phones. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
They recommend the Lubuntu 12:10 because it supposedly run from the box. I did not try this yet until I have all the tools(software & knowledge) ready...
It could be nice to have to opportunity to flash it like any ROM, but, sometimes I like the "hard" way in order to learn and develop myself.
Well guys, BON APPETITE !!!!!
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This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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Hai_Duong said:
This option to install ubuntu is impossible. U would risk to delete/brick partitions or nands. We need a IMG file with the filestructure and flash it with the fastboot/CWM. I can mount ubuntu 11.04 but the problem is no UI loading. Only usable is the terminal.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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You'd probably have to have /home on the internal sdcard to use /osh for installing Ubuntu.
Funny that this is the third thread in the last few days talking about using stand-alone Ubuntu on the device.
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No is not impossible. You partition an SD card load it up with kernel and system and use a dual boot solution to boot into the kernel on SD card. Of course some minor changes needed on the kernel. But not impossible.
also porting cyanogenmod is not as simple as grabbing a few drivers and adding a few kernel bits. It is a monumental task of trial and error with hundreds of lines of code to patch and sometimes full libraries have to be re written. Shoot the radio layer on the atrix was a quick hack job on cm for atrix.
Porting Ubuntu is tho should be quite easy. And maybe could even one day live in that juicy 750mb web top partition.
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I mean like webtop in atrix just docking u phone and start Ubuntu version 12.04 and not 9.04 jaunty . And a small question: why does nobody can make it work? there are big changes to make it work I think. Dual boot is without a proof not working for me
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